If my Philosophy 101 prof handed me this "argument" as anything other than a demonstration of logical fallacies, I'd drop the course and demand a refund.
"only laws that serve to benefit the whole of society, like speed laws and laws against murder, theft, etc should be passes [sic]"
What about those members of society who'd like to have stuff w/o paying or working much for it? Or those that want to kill their neighbor because he plays polka music too loudly on the weekends? These desires aren't moral, as defined by our society, and that's why they're illegal. In a civil society, individuals sacrifice certain rights so that those who cannot use those rights responsibly are unable to degrade society through negligence, apathy, or malice.
I challenge you, or anyone, to present one law that benefits all of society, or one law that isn't founded on morals.
Two words "military fighters". The design constraints are different for planes specifically meant to withstand bullet holes. This is like saying it's alright to walk into a burning building wearing a parka and oven mitts just because firemens' suits and gear protect them from flames.
True, a 9 mm sized hole won't decompress the cabin. What about a 9 mm hole in one of the plane's windows? IAAME (I am a mechanical engineer) and when you introduce a small flaw in a stressed-in-tension brittle material (assuming the windows are glass, or brittle polymer due to cold temps at that altitude), you get a catastrophic failure. That 9 mm hole just turned into a 10 cm hole when the window fractured and blew out.
As a grad student in mechanical engineering, I admit to a bit of homework "collaboration" that was shady at times during undergrad. Working with others in study groups was encouraged, but every now and then, your group would hit a question that nobody there knew how to answer. Usually the solution was to see the prof, but sometimes time constraints prevented this or the points/effort ratio wasn't worth it, and we'd just find an old homework or ask around.
I offer the suggested definition of cheating as trying to find some advantageous way to find the answer to a question you otherwise can't answer. If every question is answered this way, you do yourself a huge disservice. However, in small doses, this definition of cheating develops socail/intellectual networks, creative problem solving, research skills, and time management.
Like many things (all?) in life, cheating is a grey area. It's easy to say cheating==bad, but that doesn't allow for the real world where time and effort have value, and not everyone can be an expert in every subject.
This idea is somewhat central to the Foundation Trilogy by Isaac Asimov. Essentially, mathematics evolves to such a point that great mathematicians speak through equations, and this gives them insight into Society based on a sort of statistical/empirical method. It's a really interesting story and a fun premise.
This presumes a level of comraderie in the US Congress that simply doesn't exist. Even w/in the two major parties, there's not alot of team spirit. Everyone has their own special interests/lobbyists/pacts with Satan to consider.
Unless, of course, they're considering a pay raise. Then, it's all for one and one for all!
True dat. Didn't RTFA before posting, so most of the replies to my original post are all crap anyways. Since the water isn't going directly back into the lake, this seems like a mighty fine example of engineering to me.
Well, from the image at the top of that link "electronic civil disobedience" sure sounds like something only available to Americans... If I host votefordubbya.ca, that means I'm not a Republican mouthpiece, but a concerned Canadian, right?
I assumed (albeit anecdotally) that given the current majority of voters being of the anti Bush == pro Kerry persuasion that these media attention grabbers were Democrats. The article gives no indication, and so I concede that my grandparent post was based on assumption.
As an American, and one who thought that Michael Moore's movie was just as much FUD as Fox News is, I am hardly "fishing for the anti-american mod". People in this country don't think critically as often as they should. I don't think critically as often as I should. This is something that needs to be changed.
Re-direct www.gop.com to www.democrats.org. Then the "hackers" who're barely above the creativity and intelligence of a slug will be DDoS'ing their own cause.
Have you met many Americans? Do they know what totalitarian means? Do they admit their own failings? Can they make sentences w/ subject/verb agreement?
I'm not trying to say that Americans are slobbering idiots that deserve the crap leaders they get, but advocating silence and letting the GOP self-destruct just doesn't seem to acknowledge the apathy/lack of critical thinking that's so prevalent in America. I don't know the solution to the problem, but counting on analytical, intelligent voters is not it.
No hard numbers to back this up, but if you stacked all of Stalin and Ghengis Khan against all the religiously motivated murders, cleansings, Crusades, Inquisitions, etc, I have a sneaky feeling that religion would come out as the death toll champion.
But, won't introducing warm water back into the lake add new convection currents that will stir things up, affect the lake's organisms, and add certain cleaning chemicals/pollution?
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If my Philosophy 101 prof handed me this "argument" as anything other than a demonstration of logical fallacies, I'd drop the course and demand a refund.
"only laws that serve to benefit the whole of society, like speed laws and laws against murder, theft, etc should be passes [sic]"
What about those members of society who'd like to have stuff w/o paying or working much for it? Or those that want to kill their neighbor because he plays polka music too loudly on the weekends? These desires aren't moral, as defined by our society, and that's why they're illegal. In a civil society, individuals sacrifice certain rights so that those who cannot use those rights responsibly are unable to degrade society through negligence, apathy, or malice.
I challenge you, or anyone, to present one law that benefits all of society, or one law that isn't founded on morals.
Two words "military fighters". The design constraints are different for planes specifically meant to withstand bullet holes. This is like saying it's alright to walk into a burning building wearing a parka and oven mitts just because firemens' suits and gear protect them from flames.
True, a 9 mm sized hole won't decompress the cabin. What about a 9 mm hole in one of the plane's windows? IAAME (I am a mechanical engineer) and when you introduce a small flaw in a stressed-in-tension brittle material (assuming the windows are glass, or brittle polymer due to cold temps at that altitude), you get a catastrophic failure. That 9 mm hole just turned into a 10 cm hole when the window fractured and blew out.
Following the original posters link a bit further leads to another, even more impressive folded work of art. Who knew Brazil did origami as well?
For what it's worth, this is one of the most articulate /. postings I've read.
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As a grad student in mechanical engineering, I admit to a bit of homework "collaboration" that was shady at times during undergrad. Working with others in study groups was encouraged, but every now and then, your group would hit a question that nobody there knew how to answer. Usually the solution was to see the prof, but sometimes time constraints prevented this or the points/effort ratio wasn't worth it, and we'd just find an old homework or ask around.
I offer the suggested definition of cheating as trying to find some advantageous way to find the answer to a question you otherwise can't answer. If every question is answered this way, you do yourself a huge disservice. However, in small doses, this definition of cheating develops socail/intellectual networks, creative problem solving, research skills, and time management.
Like many things (all?) in life, cheating is a grey area. It's easy to say cheating==bad, but that doesn't allow for the real world where time and effort have value, and not everyone can be an expert in every subject.
May not be on the mainframes, but they certainly just lost the 20% that was on that smoking heap of plastic and metal they used as a web server.
Slashdot: Now decreasing data clutter by 20%!
Keep it up, Cannuck! We'll make it even easier to play hockey up there, by turning the entire place into one flat plain of glass.
Plus, "pop up a satellite" costs what, $1 million now? Most research scientists are poor.
This idea is somewhat central to the Foundation Trilogy by Isaac Asimov. Essentially, mathematics evolves to such a point that great mathematicians speak through equations, and this gives them insight into Society based on a sort of statistical/empirical method. It's a really interesting story and a fun premise.
This presumes a level of comraderie in the US Congress that simply doesn't exist. Even w/in the two major parties, there's not alot of team spirit. Everyone has their own special interests/lobbyists/pacts with Satan to consider.
Unless, of course, they're considering a pay raise. Then, it's all for one and one for all!
True dat. Didn't RTFA before posting, so most of the replies to my original post are all crap anyways. Since the water isn't going directly back into the lake, this seems like a mighty fine example of engineering to me.
Canadian? Umm...nope :) Corn fed, born-n-raised, Midwestern male here. I included the votefordubbya.ca in one of my posts as an example only.
Guilty as charged.
such that nobody is posting any replies?
Note to self, in order to attain first post in the future, link to the words of Linus.
Well, from the image at the top of that link "electronic civil disobedience" sure sounds like something only available to Americans... If I host votefordubbya.ca, that means I'm not a Republican mouthpiece, but a concerned Canadian, right?
I assumed (albeit anecdotally) that given the current majority of voters being of the anti Bush == pro Kerry persuasion that these media attention grabbers were Democrats. The article gives no indication, and so I concede that my grandparent post was based on assumption.
As an American, and one who thought that Michael Moore's movie was just as much FUD as Fox News is, I am hardly "fishing for the anti-american mod". People in this country don't think critically as often as they should. I don't think critically as often as I should. This is something that needs to be changed.
Re-direct www.gop.com to www.democrats.org. Then the "hackers" who're barely above the creativity and intelligence of a slug will be DDoS'ing their own cause.
Have you met many Americans? Do they know what totalitarian means? Do they admit their own failings? Can they make sentences w/ subject/verb agreement?
I'm not trying to say that Americans are slobbering idiots that deserve the crap leaders they get, but advocating silence and letting the GOP self-destruct just doesn't seem to acknowledge the apathy/lack of critical thinking that's so prevalent in America. I don't know the solution to the problem, but counting on analytical, intelligent voters is not it.
If I hand you a tinfoil hat in BOLD LETTERS, will that help protect you?
No hard numbers to back this up, but if you stacked all of Stalin and Ghengis Khan against all the religiously motivated murders, cleansings, Crusades, Inquisitions, etc, I have a sneaky feeling that religion would come out as the death toll champion.
But, won't introducing warm water back into the lake add new convection currents that will stir things up, affect the lake's organisms, and add certain cleaning chemicals/pollution?
For God's sake, man, don't answer! Can you imagine the wrath of /. once they find you?