One has the KVM, the other just switches monitors, done. You'd have the inputs tied to only one monitor at all times, but would that really matter? Instead of extending the dock to display two and redirecting input, you'd extend it to display 1 and redirect input. Cheap and easy.
This seems to cover the "basically I want to . . . " part of the original post just fine.
If the camera is the light sensor on his computer, he'll probably have a very dim screen, not a very bright screen.
Most devices (all I've ever seen) get brightest in bright light, so the screen is still visible, and dimmest in low light, so as to not hurt your eyes.
You're essentially engaging in a false dichotomy. I think there's a better, more precise term for exactly what you're saying but that's good enough.
Who said teaching them about computing in any way detracts from those other subjects?
This comes up in charity all the time. "You shouldn't care about that/those people because this is worse/these people have it worse!" Follow the link. Ten computers were donated, so they're being used. Maybe they should use them to teach the subjects you mention, but the two are not exclusive, and suggesting using them does not suggest they are more important than other things.
The article seems to go into solutions that let you access S3 as a fuse module, but it's failing to consider that you can go the other way. Gluster, Ceph, and probably others let you access data both as a filesystem, and as an object store. It's a little more complex to setup and maintain than what this article seems to be envisioning, but it can offer a lot of flexibility. I suppose it's not as cheap to run these yourself as to use S3 in most cases.
I've found two reasons for this in the more than a decade since I got my first PowerBook. There's two things: there's always a few hardware features that come at a premium, and the mac stuff has some hardware niceties that I like regardless of what OS I'm running.
Everything comes and goes in cycles, feature parity is always shifting around.
For example, when I got my first G4, comparable PC laptops didn't have:
- bluetooth - firewire - target disk mode - a widescreen IPS display - gigabit ethernet
without getting really expensive.
When I got my first intel mac it was:
- dual link DVI - a backlit keyboard - a builtin camera
On my current macboor pro, which I bought about two years ago it was:
- thunderbolt and the ability to drive an insane number of displays - that screen, when the first retina came out, that screen was unmatched
Laptops that had all these features have always come in at similar costs. There's sort of an 80/20 rule in play, and Apple just doesn't bother too much with things below the 80, but this seems to change a little more every year.
Also, I really love how my current MBP plugs into my display. One cable for power, USB, and display. The thunderbolt displays are basically a solid docking station.
If you dig the hardware and want some premium features (usually really current IO options) the cost makes sense to me.
So in fairness I realize I started to respond to this, got distracted, came back and did not exactly respond to the question being asked.
I stand by part of what I said though "support" is not magical, a combination of both is what's desired. It's best to have both your own in house people and external sources with a commercial interest you can fall back on. There's no substitute for internal knowledge though. Staff that knows how your apps interact with your systems, with your usage patterns.
My point in both cases is it's not an either or situation, there is no single point where you stop one model and go strictly to another.
"The inherit (sic, seriously editors?) risk is that the organization is accountable and accepts the risks if a major bug is encountered within any of the open source applications they are using."
I'm always surprised by this being raised as a contrast to proprietary software. As pretty much anyone who has ever relied on proprietary software for their business and had that threatened by a major bug will tell you, there's no magical protection brought about by the license agreement being closed source. I've created massive complex workarounds for bugs in software we were paying tens of thousands of dollars while waiting literally years for the vendor to acknowledge the issue, let alone fix it. I won't call out my specific employers or vendors, but I can't help but assume a lack of experience on the part of the writer when I read something like that.
In my experienced opinion the best scenario to stake your business on is open software with strong commercial backing. That way when something goes wrong, you've got a third party with incentive to help you, a community of eyes, and access to fix it yourself.
So seriously, why do they need a real name policy to prevent any of that?
Since well before Facebook sites have had a TOS that would say things like "we reserve the right to kick you out if we deem your activity may be illegal, or harasses others."
Seems to me that would more than cover all the scenarios you mention. All the cases I've seen where "real names" are supposed to stop harassment, seem pretty straight forward. Just have a policy to stop harassment. Is it easier to verify someone's identity rather than their intentions, and so easier to kick these people off these sites? I just don't see what the gain is.
This. People get all mad at Fedora for not being something it isn't. They very vocally err on the side of including more, rather than including what works. Criticizing what doesn't work in a Fedora release, without emphasizing what does, is missing (or ignoring) the whole point of Fedora.
As a long time Red Hat user (from before it was RHEL, and before there was a Fedora "core") I still think of Fedora as the rolling beta for RHEL. It's great to have access to, and it seems to me that since its introduction, it's really helped Red Hat step up its game. I use it as a desktop and to try new server technologies. I expect to tinker and am mostly just thankful for the opportunity.
While Fedora's generally quite usable for lots of thing, they even say you can use "other" things for "long-term stability" right on the "About Fedora" page.
"We believe in the power of innovation and showing off new work in our releases. Since we release twice a year, you never have to wait long to see the latest and greatest software, while there are other Linux products derived from Fedora you can use for long-term stability. We always keep Fedora moving forward so that you can see the future first."
*And to the installer, I love the new installer. Simple as dirt, for anything more complicated, I use Kickstart, which as far as I know is still fully supported.
First: I do something like this all the time, and it's great. Generally, I _never_ log into production systems. Automation tools developed in pre-prod do _everything_. However, it's not just a matter of automating what a person would do manually.
The problem is that your maintenance for simple things like updating a package is requiring downtime. If you have better redundancy, you can do 99% of normal boring maintenance with zero downtime. I say if you're in this situation you need to think about two questions:
1) Why do my systems require downtime for this kind of thing? I should have better redundancy. 2) How good are my dry runs in pre-prod environments? If you use a system like Puppet for *everything* you can easily run through your puppet code as you like in non-production, then in a maintenance window you merge your Puppet code, and simply watch it propagate to your servers. I think you'll find reliability goes way up. A person should still be around, but unexpected problems will virtually vanish.
Address those questions, and I bet you'll find your business is happy to let you do "maintenance" at more agreeable times. It may not make sense to do it in the middle of the business day, but deploying Puppet code at 7 PM and monitoring is a lot more agreeable to me than signing on at 5 AM to run patches. I've embraced this pattern professionally for a few years now. I don't think I'd still be doing this kind of work if I hadn't.
Maybe declaring victory is premature, but as I said immediately after that, the tide has turned. Sure, there's still work to do. Marriage equality still doesn't exist in many states, and this is shameful.
You're right though. ENDA needs to pass in the House. I want to believe it will happen this year. My point when I say "we've won" is that right now I don't feel it's a huge stretch to say that ENDA is inevitable, whereas just ten, or even five years ago, I don't think I'd have been so confident. Perhaps I'm too confident, or perhaps worse, perhaps I'm too focused solely on the US, while Mozilla is a rather international organization.
I stand by my point though. I worry the calls for Eich to resign, and his resignation, may ultimately do more harm than good. We are at a point where the best response to people who hold these views is to try as hard as we can not to sanction and shame them, but to take the higher road and engage them as much as possible.
I've been firmly pro marriage equality and firmly against Prop 8 and its supporters forever. That said, I think this whole thing is really a shame. Supporting this law was deplorable, I think it's very much like supporting miscegenation laws last century. It's backwards and just shouldn't be a thing.
In On Liberty, JS Mill said something that's stuck with me since my undergrad Philosophy days:
"Those in whose eyes this reticence on the part of heretics is no evil, should consider in the first place, that in consequence of it there is never any fair and thorough discussion of heretical opinions; and that such of them as could not stand such a discussion, though they may be prevented from spreading, do not disappear."
However, we've won. The tide has turned and mainstream opinion is on our side. Assuming that's undisputed, we can't just browbeat and boycott people who still disagree. We should engage and accept them. Unless he's actually oppressing anyone, Eich deserves our respect and engagement. It's in our best interest if we ever want to leave the kinds of views he's expressed behind us. A "fair and thorough discussion" of the views supporting Prop 8 may seem downright silly to those who don't hold that view, but if we don't have it, we'll keep this nasty view around for a lot longer than if we do.
Further, I think people have been comfortable dismissing Eich and wanting him to leave simply because they don't want to acknowledge that someone who's contributed so much could have views they find so deplorable. Again, without supporting his views at all, I think he and those who oppose him both deserve more respect than they've received.
Google glass is this decade's bluetooth headset. You know how there was always that one guy who would wear his headset all the time, just in case someone Very Important called? You could never tell if he was on a call, or just talking to himself. He was slightly removed from every conversation, whether it was on the phone or right in front of him.
That's Google Glass to me. It perfectly combines being rude and looking like a dork.
To paraphrase something a friend once said to me: "There was a time between 'AOL keyword [thing I'm interested in]' and "Search the App Store for [thing I'm interested in]' when the internet was a pretty cool place.
They probably won't, but I recommend Fever (www.feedafever.com.) You host it yourself, so it's not getting retired anytime soon. Wish it were open source so I could fix a few bugs, but it still works great.
I'm in pretty much exactly this situation. My livelihood is in Linux, and I've always had a Linux box or two at home, but I ditched Linux desktop around 2004 when I got my first Powerbook and thought I'd never look back. Forget "iOS-ification," boat loads of bugs in Lion and Mountain Lion made me flee back to a Linux desktop. I've been using Fedora 18 on a nice simple tower I built for just that purpose for about a month now and am really happy. My rather new rMBP will probably get loaded with it soon.
I say try a Linux desktop, it's come a long way. I was impressed when even my wi-fi worked right out of the box. I can't think of anything that didn't, though my bluetooth mouse settings seem to sometimes forget themselves and the pointer goes back to default, unacceptable speed.
We have Steam, Chrome(ium) and I bet even Netflix support soon. Also, the guys at Yorba are doing some cool modern apps in Shotwell and Geary. I really like GNOME 3, but of course there are plenty of current options if that's not your thing. If you've been happy on a Mac, you'd likely be just as happy or more with a modern Linux distro than with Win 7.
What blows my mind is that people are asking whether or not they should be compensated, when will the service will be back up, and who's responsible, but not so much "is my credit card that the PSN stores secure?" How is this not the first thing Sony gives an update on when they officially say this is due to an attack?
I've been looking at the comments on every post I see about this. At first I was hoping for an answer, and now I'm mostly just curious. This seems to be the very least of everyone's concerns.
OK, first, it doesn't look like anyone from Apple has recommended that everyone using Nortel VPN clients simply set a default host and be done with it. This is a user discussion. Maybe some of those people are Apple employees, but I didn't notice anything telling me that they were. Second, the more appropriate solution would probably a be a port trigger, which the new base station supports. I don't use Nortel VPN, and my Cisco VPN is working fine with my new Extreme, but this thread seems to imply that a simple port trigger fixed the exact same issue for Linksys users.
Hopefully that will help.
What he said is generally accepted as right and I think I can clarify it a little bit. Straight from the introduction to my translation of the Nichomachean Ethics: "Aristotle's ethical theory is mostly contained in three treatises: the MM, the EE, and the EN. The titles of the last two works may reflect the tradition that Eudemus (a member of the Lyceum) and Nichomacus (the son of Areistotle and Herpyllis) edited Aristotle's lectures."
(This translation is by Terence Irwin, ISBN 0-87220-464-2)
These are probably the names he meant. The Nichomacus in the title is most definitely Aristotle's father. Most relevant to this discussion, inconsistencies in the third work (the EN) are attributed to the EN being incomplete, and gaps being filled in by the son.
You really sound like a misguided troll, but I'll bite anyways. I won't even make any Tolkien troll jokes. At least among philosophy majors, Aristotle's son publishing the Nichomachean Ethics (named for A's father, who he named the son after as well . . . it gets confusing) is just common knowledge. For a wee big of evidence, Wikipedia, will back me up.
The second claim is the reason I bothered to post. If you want justification in claiming that Aristotle is key to the foundation of western society, read Aristotle's Children by Richard E Rubenstein. Fantastic book.
The kid in the book (I forget his name) is investigating the murder of a dog. He models his "investigation" after his hero, Sherlock Holmes. The title of the book is a reference to Doyle.
"If I recall correctly, the drive inside the Mac Mini is a laptop (2.5") drive. Those aren't really known for great performance. I'd not be surprised if it's the same kind of drive they put in Powerbooks (a 4500RPM)."
Actually, all the powerbooks have 5400 rpms standard across the line now. Only the mini and the ibook have slower drives I believe. Maybe the imac g5 does I suppose, but I doubt it.
My Rio 600 works fine on my powerbook with itunes 4.7.1 and with the open source rioutil. Doesn't get much use since I got my ipod, but it does work. Just plug it in, itunes should see it.
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One has the KVM, the other just switches monitors, done. You'd have the inputs tied to only one monitor at all times, but would that really matter? Instead of extending the dock to display two and redirecting input, you'd extend it to display 1 and redirect input. Cheap and easy.
This seems to cover the "basically I want to . . . " part of the original post just fine.
If the camera is the light sensor on his computer, he'll probably have a very dim screen, not a very bright screen.
Most devices (all I've ever seen) get brightest in bright light, so the screen is still visible, and dimmest in low light, so as to not hurt your eyes.
You're essentially engaging in a false dichotomy. I think there's a better, more precise term for exactly what you're saying but that's good enough.
Who said teaching them about computing in any way detracts from those other subjects?
This comes up in charity all the time. "You shouldn't care about that/those people because this is worse/these people have it worse!" Follow the link. Ten computers were donated, so they're being used. Maybe they should use them to teach the subjects you mention, but the two are not exclusive, and suggesting using them does not suggest they are more important than other things.
The article seems to go into solutions that let you access S3 as a fuse module, but it's failing to consider that you can go the other way. Gluster, Ceph, and probably others let you access data both as a filesystem, and as an object store. It's a little more complex to setup and maintain than what this article seems to be envisioning, but it can offer a lot of flexibility. I suppose it's not as cheap to run these yourself as to use S3 in most cases.
It's been a lot of years since I've dealt with either Photo Shop or GIMP, but I'm pretty sure it used to (at least open) PSD files with no problems.
Am I remembering wrong, or is this no longer the case?
Wanting to teach people Photo Shop is fine, but if it's just about PSD compatibility, I'm not sure that makes sense.
I've found two reasons for this in the more than a decade since I got my first PowerBook. There's two things: there's always a few hardware features that come at a premium, and the mac stuff has some hardware niceties that I like regardless of what OS I'm running.
Everything comes and goes in cycles, feature parity is always shifting around.
For example, when I got my first G4, comparable PC laptops didn't have:
- bluetooth
- firewire
- target disk mode
- a widescreen IPS display
- gigabit ethernet
without getting really expensive.
When I got my first intel mac it was:
- dual link DVI
- a backlit keyboard
- a builtin camera
On my current macboor pro, which I bought about two years ago it was:
- thunderbolt and the ability to drive an insane number of displays
- that screen, when the first retina came out, that screen was unmatched
Laptops that had all these features have always come in at similar costs. There's sort of an 80/20 rule in play, and Apple just doesn't bother too much with things below the 80, but this seems to change a little more every year.
Also, I really love how my current MBP plugs into my display. One cable for power, USB, and display. The thunderbolt displays are basically a solid docking station.
If you dig the hardware and want some premium features (usually really current IO options) the cost makes sense to me.
So in fairness I realize I started to respond to this, got distracted, came back and did not exactly respond to the question being asked.
I stand by part of what I said though "support" is not magical, a combination of both is what's desired. It's best to have both your own in house people and external sources with a commercial interest you can fall back on. There's no substitute for internal knowledge though. Staff that knows how your apps interact with your systems, with your usage patterns.
My point in both cases is it's not an either or situation, there is no single point where you stop one model and go strictly to another.
"The inherit (sic, seriously editors?) risk is that the organization is accountable and accepts the risks if a major bug is encountered within any of the open source applications they are using."
I'm always surprised by this being raised as a contrast to proprietary software. As pretty much anyone who has ever relied on proprietary software for their business and had that threatened by a major bug will tell you, there's no magical protection brought about by the license agreement being closed source. I've created massive complex workarounds for bugs in software we were paying tens of thousands of dollars while waiting literally years for the vendor to acknowledge the issue, let alone fix it. I won't call out my specific employers or vendors, but I can't help but assume a lack of experience on the part of the writer when I read something like that.
In my experienced opinion the best scenario to stake your business on is open software with strong commercial backing. That way when something goes wrong, you've got a third party with incentive to help you, a community of eyes, and access to fix it yourself.
So seriously, why do they need a real name policy to prevent any of that?
Since well before Facebook sites have had a TOS that would say things like "we reserve the right to kick you out if we deem your activity may be illegal, or harasses others."
Seems to me that would more than cover all the scenarios you mention. All the cases I've seen where "real names" are supposed to stop harassment, seem pretty straight forward. Just have a policy to stop harassment. Is it easier to verify someone's identity rather than their intentions, and so easier to kick these people off these sites? I just don't see what the gain is.
This. People get all mad at Fedora for not being something it isn't. They very vocally err on the side of including more, rather than including what works. Criticizing what doesn't work in a Fedora release, without emphasizing what does, is missing (or ignoring) the whole point of Fedora.
As a long time Red Hat user (from before it was RHEL, and before there was a Fedora "core") I still think of Fedora as the rolling beta for RHEL. It's great to have access to, and it seems to me that since its introduction, it's really helped Red Hat step up its game. I use it as a desktop and to try new server technologies. I expect to tinker and am mostly just thankful for the opportunity.
While Fedora's generally quite usable for lots of thing, they even say you can use "other" things for "long-term stability" right on the "About Fedora" page.
"We believe in the power of innovation and showing off new work in our releases. Since we release twice a year, you never have to wait long to see the latest and greatest software, while there are other Linux products derived from Fedora you can use for long-term stability. We always keep Fedora moving forward so that you can see the future first."
http://fedoraproject.org/en/ab...
*And to the installer, I love the new installer. Simple as dirt, for anything more complicated, I use Kickstart, which as far as I know is still fully supported.
First: I do something like this all the time, and it's great. Generally, I _never_ log into production systems. Automation tools developed in pre-prod do _everything_. However, it's not just a matter of automating what a person would do manually.
The problem is that your maintenance for simple things like updating a package is requiring downtime. If you have better redundancy, you can do 99% of normal boring maintenance with zero downtime. I say if you're in this situation you need to think about two questions:
1) Why do my systems require downtime for this kind of thing? I should have better redundancy.
2) How good are my dry runs in pre-prod environments? If you use a system like Puppet for *everything* you can easily run through your puppet code as you like in non-production, then in a maintenance window you merge your Puppet code, and simply watch it propagate to your servers. I think you'll find reliability goes way up. A person should still be around, but unexpected problems will virtually vanish.
Address those questions, and I bet you'll find your business is happy to let you do "maintenance" at more agreeable times. It may not make sense to do it in the middle of the business day, but deploying Puppet code at 7 PM and monitoring is a lot more agreeable to me than signing on at 5 AM to run patches. I've embraced this pattern professionally for a few years now. I don't think I'd still be doing this kind of work if I hadn't.
Maybe declaring victory is premature, but as I said immediately after that, the tide has turned. Sure, there's still work to do. Marriage equality still doesn't exist in many states, and this is shameful.
You're right though. ENDA needs to pass in the House. I want to believe it will happen this year. My point when I say "we've won" is that right now I don't feel it's a huge stretch to say that ENDA is inevitable, whereas just ten, or even five years ago, I don't think I'd have been so confident. Perhaps I'm too confident, or perhaps worse, perhaps I'm too focused solely on the US, while Mozilla is a rather international organization.
I stand by my point though. I worry the calls for Eich to resign, and his resignation, may ultimately do more harm than good. We are at a point where the best response to people who hold these views is to try as hard as we can not to sanction and shame them, but to take the higher road and engage them as much as possible.
I've been firmly pro marriage equality and firmly against Prop 8 and its supporters forever. That said, I think this whole thing is really a shame. Supporting this law was deplorable, I think it's very much like supporting miscegenation laws last century. It's backwards and just shouldn't be a thing.
In On Liberty, JS Mill said something that's stuck with me since my undergrad Philosophy days:
"Those in whose eyes this reticence on the part of heretics is no evil, should consider in the first place, that in consequence of it there is never any fair and thorough discussion of heretical opinions; and that such of them as could not stand such a discussion, though they may be prevented from spreading, do not disappear."
However, we've won. The tide has turned and mainstream opinion is on our side. Assuming that's undisputed, we can't just browbeat and boycott people who still disagree. We should engage and accept them. Unless he's actually oppressing anyone, Eich deserves our respect and engagement. It's in our best interest if we ever want to leave the kinds of views he's expressed behind us. A "fair and thorough discussion" of the views supporting Prop 8 may seem downright silly to those who don't hold that view, but if we don't have it, we'll keep this nasty view around for a lot longer than if we do.
Further, I think people have been comfortable dismissing Eich and wanting him to leave simply because they don't want to acknowledge that someone who's contributed so much could have views they find so deplorable. Again, without supporting his views at all, I think he and those who oppose him both deserve more respect than they've received.
Google glass is this decade's bluetooth headset. You know how there was always that one guy who would wear his headset all the time, just in case someone Very Important called? You could never tell if he was on a call, or just talking to himself. He was slightly removed from every conversation, whether it was on the phone or right in front of him.
That's Google Glass to me. It perfectly combines being rude and looking like a dork.
To paraphrase something a friend once said to me: "There was a time between 'AOL keyword [thing I'm interested in]' and "Search the App Store for [thing I'm interested in]' when the internet was a pretty cool place.
They probably won't, but I recommend Fever (www.feedafever.com.) You host it yourself, so it's not getting retired anytime soon. Wish it were open source so I could fix a few bugs, but it still works great.
I'm in pretty much exactly this situation. My livelihood is in Linux, and I've always had a Linux box or two at home, but I ditched Linux desktop around 2004 when I got my first Powerbook and thought I'd never look back. Forget "iOS-ification," boat loads of bugs in Lion and Mountain Lion made me flee back to a Linux desktop. I've been using Fedora 18 on a nice simple tower I built for just that purpose for about a month now and am really happy. My rather new rMBP will probably get loaded with it soon. I say try a Linux desktop, it's come a long way. I was impressed when even my wi-fi worked right out of the box. I can't think of anything that didn't, though my bluetooth mouse settings seem to sometimes forget themselves and the pointer goes back to default, unacceptable speed. We have Steam, Chrome(ium) and I bet even Netflix support soon. Also, the guys at Yorba are doing some cool modern apps in Shotwell and Geary. I really like GNOME 3, but of course there are plenty of current options if that's not your thing. If you've been happy on a Mac, you'd likely be just as happy or more with a modern Linux distro than with Win 7.
What blows my mind is that people are asking whether or not they should be compensated, when will the service will be back up, and who's responsible, but not so much "is my credit card that the PSN stores secure?" How is this not the first thing Sony gives an update on when they officially say this is due to an attack?
I've been looking at the comments on every post I see about this. At first I was hoping for an answer, and now I'm mostly just curious. This seems to be the very least of everyone's concerns.
OK, first, it doesn't look like anyone from Apple has recommended that everyone using Nortel VPN clients simply set a default host and be done with it. This is a user discussion. Maybe some of those people are Apple employees, but I didn't notice anything telling me that they were. Second, the more appropriate solution would probably a be a port trigger, which the new base station supports. I don't use Nortel VPN, and my Cisco VPN is working fine with my new Extreme, but this thread seems to imply that a simple port trigger fixed the exact same issue for Linksys users. Hopefully that will help.
Sorry to mislabel you a troll.
What he said is generally accepted as right and I think I can clarify it a little bit. Straight from the introduction to my translation of the Nichomachean Ethics: "Aristotle's ethical theory is mostly contained in three treatises: the MM, the EE, and the EN. The titles of the last two works may reflect the tradition that Eudemus (a member of the Lyceum) and Nichomacus (the son of Areistotle and Herpyllis) edited Aristotle's lectures."
(This translation is by Terence Irwin, ISBN 0-87220-464-2)
These are probably the names he meant. The Nichomacus in the title is most definitely Aristotle's father. Most relevant to this discussion, inconsistencies in the third work (the EN) are attributed to the EN being incomplete, and gaps being filled in by the son.
You really sound like a misguided troll, but I'll bite anyways. I won't even make any Tolkien troll jokes. At least among philosophy majors, Aristotle's son publishing the Nichomachean Ethics (named for A's father, who he named the son after as well . . . it gets confusing) is just common knowledge. For a wee big of evidence, Wikipedia, will back me up.
The second claim is the reason I bothered to post. If you want justification in claiming that Aristotle is key to the foundation of western society, read Aristotle's Children by Richard E Rubenstein. Fantastic book.
The kid in the book (I forget his name) is investigating the murder of a dog. He models his "investigation" after his hero, Sherlock Holmes. The title of the book is a reference to Doyle.
RMS is referencing Doyle directly I'm sure.
Yeah, Slashdot would never post that.
Sorry, but that article was here last week.
"If I recall correctly, the drive inside the Mac Mini is a laptop (2.5") drive. Those aren't really known for great performance. I'd not be surprised if it's the same kind of drive they put in Powerbooks (a 4500RPM)."
Actually, all the powerbooks have 5400 rpms standard across the line now. Only the mini and the ibook have slower drives I believe. Maybe the imac g5 does I suppose, but I doubt it.
My Rio 600 works fine on my powerbook with itunes 4.7.1 and with the open source rioutil. Doesn't get much use since I got my ipod, but it does work. Just plug it in, itunes should see it.