Very good point. I was thinking about that, but I'd had a few beers and I completely forgot to type it in! I didn't know that any such pages used a moderation-style system. I can't say I know Allakhazam, I'll have a quick google, and see if it's well implemented.
The thing is sometimes that the clumsy hacks are sometimes _useful_ to know. I wasn't being fair above. When there's a bug in PHP that needs to be coded around, proper respect to the guy that first posts the workaround. However, within weeks or months that code-around is irrelevant as PHP2.0 or whatever fades into non-existance. If anything it's an embarassment to PHP to have such kludges still visible.
I have to take a contrary stance. The offical documentation at PHP.net is great. Slightly sparse in places but on the whole pretty usable. I learnt PHP from those pages, and those pages alone.
_However_ the user-contributed feedback was _abyssmal_. It was contributed by people who knew just enough to get things done in one clumsy way, and that's why after hours of trying they thought it would be useful to share their experience and their results. The problem is, it's usually a clumsy way, and only useful to others who only a very limited ammount.
While that's probably better than nothing for some of the auxiliary library routines, where very few people have expertise, it's downright dangerous for the core language areas.
However, I'm a bit of a language lawyer - I want specifics, I want dry boring facts, I want grammer productions - and my tastes probably aren't the same as everyone else.
To me wiki's are a turn off.
For things that are have user-contributed parts, I prefer things like Eric Weisstein's MathWorld, which has strict editorial control within Wolfram. Just today I submitted an error report, and within a few hours Eric had replied to say that the update would be out soon. OK, it's 8 hours later, and it's still not updated, but I bet that it only takes a day or two. That's swift enough for most people.
In particular when you consider many of the comments on PHP.net are several years old. What difference does a day or two make now?
To the story poster - just get them to streamline their process. If it takes more than a day or two, you're doing it wrong.
What do I have to say about that Samsung phone? I say you're a fucking idiot who just shot himself in the foot. That's a CDMA phone!
And what's this "Federal Communications Commission" Hahaha, someone thinks the whole planet is America. Wrong! And that regulation only kicks in in 2005.
Zero out of two. Not a good score.
And note - nowhere did I say that it's impossible to put GSM and GPS in the same unit, I just said that on the whole it's not cost-effective, or space effective. That Samsung is heavier, larger, and has a shorter battery life than some GSM phones from about 4 years ago. And 4 years is a _long_ time in the world of consumer electronics.
And using the technology invented by CPS back in ~1996, it's been possible to pinpoint an ordinary GSM phone to well within 300 feet (still using feet, you Americans are funny) anyway, so there's no added value at all. Unless CDMA is less capable than GSM in that regard. I wouldn't know, CDMA has never interested me.
LA's are typically _larger than freaking cells_. (a 1 cell LA is perfectly possible, but a LA _contains_ cells)
The LACs are transmitted by the networks/to/ the phones in broadcast messages, the phones' job is to echo back the location that makes the most sense (depending on network/transmitter choice).
And yes, you can buy combined GSM/GPS units - I never claimed you can't. I claimed that they share so little of their innards that it's no more space efficient nor cost efficient to produce them.
I guess a combined unit is ~$500 nowadays. A small GPS and a small GSM phone together would be $300.
Which was my point. You might as well gaffer tape to stick your GPS to your GSM for a "combined" unit. Much cheaper, and probably no larger.
And I can make a Mac/Windows box using gaffer tape and a KVM. Well duh!
And it's not trivial. You've never worked with RF if you think it's trivial. There's very little that can be shared and so size-wise, and cost-wise, you're looking at being about equal to the sum of the component parts. Gaffer taping two separate units together would be the easiest and cheapest solution.
You're pulling that out of your arse. There's no GPS in almost all phones. There's no positional information communicated to the base-station from the handset. Signal strength is important, location isn't.
How do I know? My code sits inside several tier 2 companies' handsets, and loads of tier 3 companies. (i.e. if it's not Nokia, Moto and Ericson, there's a chance there's my code running on it.)
When it comes to "features" I agree with you 100%. One man's feature is another man's gimmick.
I have no gimmicks, and very few features on my phone, as I use it to phone, SMS, and tell me the time. (Shit, I lie, I've got a crappy unwanted game on it, I don't consider it a feature!)
However, I assume that 3 seconds was chosen as "a short amount of time, a time you needn't concern yourself over".
In reality, it's not even a time you needn't be concerned over, it's a time that you won't even notice! (I'm on an old old machine too, with a crappy slow IDE.)
I'd hate people to think that vi takes even a tenth of a second to start on a modern system.
I agree. Paypal's nowhere near Micropayments. Micropayments are usually in the cotext of hundredths or thousandths of cents. (Per measurable unit, per KB, say).
These aren't "cluttery" features. This feature has been possible since the first GSM phones of the 1980s. There's no change to the phone at all. So chose your long battery life phone that you can dial one-handed, and then just use it normally. Dialing or SMS-ing particular service numbers doesn't change your phone's size, weight, or usability.
Mobile phones have no 'GPS' guts. Sure, you can use triangulation from base-stations to position where a phone is reasonably accurately, but it's a different technology from GPS. Cambridge Positioning Systems has the patent on it, IIRC. Look in trade mags from 1996-1997 for write-ups.
I think Estonia has had this for parking and public transport and a few other things for about 3 years. Finland for about 2, but it's not caught on as much as it has in Estonia.
I think Hungary's like Estonia (apart from being Finno-Ugric, that is) because the big western mega-corp IT-trendsetter countries pushed all the boundaries forward, and covered their whole country with V0 and V1 of the technology. Noone there actaully needs V2 now. To those that missed the revolution there's no inertia on the "old" tech, so they'll be the quickest to take up V2 and V3. In a decade or two, we'll see Kenya or Nigeria as the quickest uptake of V4, I'm sure.
You see, the contraceptive ones and the ones for diabetics are long and thin, rod-like almost. These new ones are more rectanglar in shape and therefore are/microchips/, not merely/implants/.
It's revolutionary, I tell you! They should patent it!
I end up with $|=0, which spoils the effect./**/* doesn't seem to glob properly./etc/* works fine, as does ~/* Those would certainly freak out the n00bs.
Heck, I'm not even a newb, and I'm freaked out by it!
The behaviour of whatever turned out to be deoxyribonucleic acid was explained in the 30's by Erwin Heisenberg in his "What is Life". The _structure_ of DNA wasn't know until later, but what it did was known 70 years ago, or more.
"amusing", eh? Mental masturbation is how I'd describe it.
No no no no no. Kurzweil says it's OK, and therefore it's OK. Everything Kurzweil says is right, you know. I can prove it, I read it on http://www.kurtzweilAI.net/
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Very good point. I was thinking about that, but I'd had a few beers and I completely forgot to type it in! I didn't know that any such pages used a moderation-style system. I can't say I know Allakhazam, I'll have a quick google, and see if it's well implemented.
The thing is sometimes that the clumsy hacks are sometimes _useful_ to know. I wasn't being fair above. When there's a bug in PHP that needs to be coded around, proper respect to the guy that first posts the workaround. However, within weeks or months that code-around is irrelevant as PHP2.0 or whatever fades into non-existance. If anything it's an embarassment to PHP to have such kludges still visible.
YAW.
I have to take a contrary stance.
The offical documentation at PHP.net is great. Slightly sparse in places but on the whole pretty usable.
I learnt PHP from those pages, and those pages alone.
_However_ the user-contributed feedback was _abyssmal_. It was contributed by people who knew just enough to get things done in one clumsy way, and that's why after hours of trying they thought it would be useful to share their experience and their results.
The problem is, it's usually a clumsy way, and only useful to others who only a very limited ammount.
While that's probably better than nothing for some of the auxiliary library routines, where very few people have expertise, it's downright dangerous for the core language areas.
However, I'm a bit of a language lawyer - I want specifics, I want dry boring facts, I want grammer productions - and my tastes probably aren't the same as everyone else.
To me wiki's are a turn off.
For things that are have user-contributed parts, I prefer things like Eric Weisstein's MathWorld, which has strict editorial control within Wolfram. Just today I submitted an error report, and within a few hours Eric had replied to say that the update would be out soon. OK, it's 8 hours later, and it's still not updated, but I bet that it only takes a day or two. That's swift enough for most people.
In particular when you consider many of the comments on
PHP.net are several years old. What difference does a day or two make now?
To the story poster - just get them to streamline their process.
If it takes more than a day or two, you're doing it wrong.
YAW.
What do I have to say about that Samsung phone?
I say you're a fucking idiot who just shot himself in the foot. That's a CDMA phone!
And what's this "Federal Communications Commission"
Hahaha, someone thinks the whole planet is America. Wrong!
And that regulation only kicks in in 2005.
Zero out of two. Not a good score.
And note - nowhere did I say that it's impossible to put GSM and GPS in the same unit, I just said that on the whole it's not cost-effective, or space effective. That Samsung is heavier, larger, and has a shorter battery life than some GSM phones from about 4 years ago. And 4 years is a _long_ time in the world of consumer electronics.
And using the technology invented by CPS back in ~1996, it's been possible to pinpoint an ordinary GSM phone to well within 300 feet (still using feet, you Americans are funny) anyway, so there's no added value at all. Unless CDMA is less capable than GSM in that regard. I wouldn't know, CDMA has never interested me.
Next time hit your head on a wall.
YAW.
You call LA's location?????
/to/ the phones in broadcast messages, the phones' job is to echo back the location
LA's are typically _larger than freaking cells_.
(a 1 cell LA is perfectly possible, but a LA _contains_ cells)
The LACs are transmitted by the networks
that makes the most sense (depending on network/transmitter choice).
And yes, you can buy combined GSM/GPS units - I never claimed you can't. I claimed that they share so little of their innards that it's no more space efficient nor cost efficient to produce them.
I guess a combined unit is ~$500 nowadays.
A small GPS and a small GSM phone together would be $300.
Which was my point. You might as well gaffer tape to stick your
GPS to your GSM for a "combined" unit. Much cheaper, and probably
no larger.
YAW.
You could torture people by playing annoying tinny ringtones at them constantly!
YAW.
And I can make a Mac/Windows box using gaffer tape and a KVM.
Well duh!
And it's not trivial. You've never worked with RF if you
think it's trivial. There's very little that can be shared
and so size-wise, and cost-wise, you're looking at being
about equal to the sum of the component parts. Gaffer taping
two separate units together would be the easiest and cheapest solution.
YAW.
You're pulling that out of your arse.
There's no GPS in almost all phones.
There's no positional information communicated to the base-station from the handset. Signal strength is important, location isn't.
How do I know? My code sits inside several tier 2 companies' handsets, and loads of tier 3 companies. (i.e. if it's not Nokia, Moto and Ericson, there's a chance there's my code running on it.)
YAW.
When it comes to "features" I agree with you 100%.
One man's feature is another man's gimmick.
I have no gimmicks, and very few features on my phone,
as I use it to phone, SMS, and tell me the time.
(Shit, I lie, I've got a crappy unwanted game on it, I
don't consider it a feature!)
YAW.
However, I assume that 3 seconds was chosen as "a short amount of time, a time you needn't concern yourself over".
In reality, it's not even a time you needn't be concerned over, it's a time that you won't even notice! (I'm on an old old machine too, with a crappy slow IDE.)
I'd hate people to think that vi takes even a tenth of a second to start on a modern system.
YAW.
I agree. Paypal's nowhere near Micropayments.
Micropayments are usually in the cotext of hundredths or thousandths
of cents. (Per measurable unit, per KB, say).
YAW.
Excellent! Would I get a blue cube of death from it?
YAW.
"""
whether in a windows editor or a linux editor ctrl-c is copy. 'cept for vi of course.
"""
and Pico, Jed, Emacs, Hexedit, and pretty much every editor I've ever had to use.
Your use of absolutes indicates you're living in a small restricted little world.
YAW.
"""
:q to quit rather than ZZ]
0. type "vi filename", wait less than 3 seconds.
1. press [i].
2. insert your text.
3. press [ESC] then [Z][Z] (twice).
"""
Wow - someone still using a 386 - cool!
$ time vi crap
[did the above, except I do
user 0m0.020s
sys 0m0.070s
Anyone who _waits_ for an editor to start needs a new editor.
YAW.
I don't know if it's regional slang, but where I'm from
"spacker" means "spastic".
So - you wanna confine these spackers to wheelchairs?
YAW
Oh, OK, I misunderstood.
I still think a Hall of Infamy would be a good idea though.
YAW.
Insightful? Just plain ignorant, more like.
These aren't "cluttery" features. This feature has been possible since the first GSM phones of the 1980s. There's no change to the
phone at all. So chose your long battery life phone that you can
dial one-handed, and then just use it normally. Dialing or
SMS-ing particular service numbers doesn't change your phone's
size, weight, or usability.
Sheesh.
YAW.
Mobile phones have no 'GPS' guts.
Sure, you can use triangulation from base-stations to position where a phone is reasonably accurately, but it's a different technology from GPS. Cambridge Positioning Systems has the patent on it, IIRC.
Look in trade mags from 1996-1997 for write-ups.
YAW
I think Estonia has had this for parking and public transport and a few other things for about 3 years. Finland for about 2, but it's not caught on as much as it has in Estonia.
I think Hungary's like Estonia (apart from being Finno-Ugric, that is) because the big western mega-corp IT-trendsetter countries pushed all the boundaries forward, and covered their whole country with V0 and V1 of the technology. Noone there actaully needs V2 now. To those that missed the revolution there's no inertia on the "old" tech, so they'll be the quickest to take up V2 and V3. In a decade or two, we'll see Kenya or Nigeria as the quickest uptake of V4, I'm sure.
YAW.
Makes more sense to fold to the CO$.
Diebold may sue, but the CO$ kill.
I agree that the "we sued slashdot" hall of fame would be an interesting concept.
YAW.
No these are compleeeeetely different.
/microchips/, not /implants/.
You see, the contraceptive ones and the ones for diabetics
are long and thin, rod-like almost. These new ones are more rectanglar in shape and therefore are
merely
It's revolutionary, I tell you! They should patent it!
YAW.
I end up with $|=0, which spoils the effect. /**/* doesn't seem to glob properly. /etc/* works fine, as does ~/*
Those would certainly freak out the n00bs.
Heck, I'm not even a newb, and I'm freaked out by it!
Great sig.
YAW.
I'm sorry, NotAnotherReboot, I'm afraid I can't do that.
The behaviour of whatever turned out to be deoxyribonucleic acid was explained in the 30's by Erwin Heisenberg in his "What is Life".
The _structure_ of DNA wasn't know until later, but what it did was known 70 years ago, or more.
"amusing", eh? Mental masturbation is how I'd describe it.
YAW.
"Is the simulation alive and if not, why not?"
It's not alive.
Why? Because it's not alive.
Are you a bit thick or something?
Blips on radar screens can't fly.
YAW.
No no no no no.
Kurzweil says it's OK, and therefore it's OK. Everything Kurzweil says is right, you know. I can prove it, I read it on http://www.kurtzweilAI.net/
YAW.