I found it interesting that your comment was the first to even mention Tanenbaum. The fact that he was the 'votemaster' was the story, not all of the political views expressed by the other posts, even the one to which you are replying.
This is an aspect of forums like slashdot -- no handling of the topic of a thread's inevitable migration. Still no story that I can recall so clearly demonstrates this facet.
It is somewhat like having a anonymous painting of a house hanging in a museum for years suddenly being attributed to a famous master -- and then having all the discussion center on the qualities of the house, not the painting or the painter.
The post by irgu -- the parent to yours, gp to this -- states that NTFS is not patented. As you say, while patents are different than the DMCA, are you claiming that NTFS is patented? I am not tying to be combative, I fear that I just miss your point. I cannot attest to whether NTFS is patented or not. I am genuinely interested in your opinion.
There has been very recent activity in trying to patent the FAT filesystem. Unsuccessfully, IIRC. Slashdot, Sep 30th
I find the GP post to agree with my understanding of the recent Linux/NTFS history. It will be great when full r/w access to NTFS for Linux is solid enough to be enabled by most distros. I think this is small but significant detraction from using Linux in some situations.
By the way, I started this comment on my laptop while lounging around prior to my morning routine, but ran low on battery. I suspended to disk, and resumed hours later, checking to see if anyone else had raised my point first. As a 1994 Linux user and cheap ass who went years before upgrading my notebook hardware, this makes me very happy.
Do you mean a virus that starts a silent P2P sharing of certain file types?
I find that very interesting, the flaws in the OS, i.e. Microsoft product for most folk, would lead them to unknowingly commit alleged crimes. Then we could put two sets of lawyers in a round pit and see who is left.
But how the fuck could I know the aftermath would be screwed up like it was?
I hope you won't be offended if I ask if you are young - or more precisely how long you have been an observer of such things, currently in your life or as a student of history. I am not particularly surprised by the current state of affairs.
Well, more than two. In such a vast expanse, an intelligent watermarking scheme would place many changes.
Which requires a more intelligent hack to defeat. The escalation is predictable. Anyone attempting this might as well go to the point of something more than a simple trick from the start.
But taking the idea of more than one download as a starting point, the multiple approach you suggest is valid. Seeing that the download will almost certainly be done as TCP request(s) sourced by the Tivo box (they already support NAT through routers), one could claim that their requests were monitored.....
Still a quicker and more anonymous approach would be to extract from DVD - rental fees roughly equating with downloaded Pay-Per-View pricing.
To what end? I sure wouldn't want to share the results too far. In the gigabytes of data that make up any movie, it would be fairly easy to implement a watermark. Then just wait for the pirates to identify themselves.
Don't get me wrong, I an all in favor of fair use copying. In particular, I find that making copies of movie titles for my Sony DVD changer yields far more preferable discs than the originals. When my two year old kid wants Winnie the Pooh, an FBI screen and mandatory menu are not what is called for.
In a word - no. It is not necessary to have a transmitter to have an FCC ID issued to a piece of gear. This is frequently a good way of identifying unknown hardware of all sorts, including computer gear and automotive alarms, etc. That is what the parent to your post was suggesting.
Seeing that this is slashdot and there always seems to be someone willing to take the contrary position, I give an example, a sound card laying on my desk. FCC ID LWA521-T9.
Within the last month I had to use this to track down the manufacturer of a proximity detector connected to my wife's car alarm.
PS, to Jim: I re-read before posting. I want to be clear that I meant other poster, not yourself, might well contradict this in the absence of other proof.
Here I sit with mod points and the frame of mind to slap whoever puts up the expected "I, for one, welcome our....." post. However no one has come forward.
Interesting. It seemed ineffective. I tried all of the available options to no avail. I verified settings changing as reported by/proc/mounts. I delierately provoked an error message by using a value not from the list. Weird.
Thanks again. I had not yet had a chance to investigate (the real world intrudes and I am mowing the yard) but your additional info in this last post is essentially what I was expecting to find and where I was going to look.
I ran across your new post while shutting down to reboot in the new kernel. Here goes........
Your explaination fits the observed behavior. I dodged using symlinks out of a ext2 fs and carried on.
However, understanding the cause does not necessarily equate to a solution. Like most Win apps, I cannot change it much. In this case, I cannot force it to use different names. Therefore it remains a problem should I need to do that particular operation again. I would like to have an option in mounting the FAT fs under Linux. Perhaps with your info I might find one.
Just a stab but I was using a FAT filesystem for mass exchange of data between Linux and WinXP apps on the same machine. I found it quite annoying that there was something screwing with the upper vs. lower case on my filenames. Windows would write upper and linux would see it as lower. I'm hoping that you are the bearer of good news.....
You demonstrate the underlying effectiveness of FUD. Understand that I am not saying that your comments are FUD, just that the literal Fear & Uncertainty that you face is indeed paralyzing.
Perhaps my experience might help you. I had a single WinXP partion and multiple Linux partitions on a 120G drive. When I needed to upgrade the kernel (the most current Linux installed was modified RH9) as well as several other components, I took the plunge. Because of the issues of dual boot problems having been mentioned here on/., I made sure that I had a full backup. Even though it was a 120G disk, I was able to clear out a great deal and reduced the image backup to fit on 2 DVDs.
So, I installed. Sure enough, no XP. Dug into the situation for five minutes on the web and found the advice to change BIOS setting for the multi-boot drive to manually be LBA, as opposed to leaving in the AUTO mode. Now, previously, I would have thought that the LBA mode would have been selected by the automatic setting but, hey, the cost of trying was certainly low. Tried it, it worked.
So, in your situation, I would be curious to hear what your backup status is. If you don't have decent backups, you are always going to be at some risk. I would go with some sort of image backup. This is easy to do if you have linux running but I gather that you may not on this box. Try using Knoppix.
Yeah. I noticed that some time back. I think that it is less than ideal. That is why mine has been as below for some time. But you'll have to take my word on it.
Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for that one. The Sony supplanted my first player which fairly well fits your description of 'generic Chinese'. It was upgradable to turn off macrovision and made region free. I haven't tried my DVD of MP3's on it yet. My two year-old broke the front off of the disc drawer as well as cracking the outside edge of a commercial disc Grandma had just bought. That is why I went to the 400-disc changer. The new player is up and out of reach. Consequently it will be the main player for some time to come.
Your post got me thinking of this again. I tried googling for the phrase "DVD of MP3s". It got only 16 displayable results, many of which were people bemoaning the same situation as I have. However, there was at least one UK post about a player that does do OK, Ronin or some such. I just bought and am out of the market for a while but still interested.
There is obviously no technical reason that MP3s should not be usuable on DVD media in virtually every DVD player. It is only a matter of what the firmware does when encountering such a disc. There very well may be some players out there that will (portable or not) and there very well may be hacked firmware for some players to _help_ in this area. I would welcome comments giving examples that do work.
Unfortunately I can tell you that my new Sony 400 disc changer only does MP3s on CD media. I tried a DVD, it popped up a message on the order of 'cannot play this disc'. This has been my only disappointment with the unit but was not unexpected.
It seems pretty assine to me. Giving more priority to the media type than the content is like a human reader claiming they can't read a language on a computer screen, they can only read paper while reading other things off a screen just fine. (Perhaps this analogy will provoke some interesting examples of difficulty with screens.)
Also, I know what you mean about the radio. Currently commercial pop music broadcasting sucks - especially when compared to its past. And not necessarily its recent past, either. This means that there are kids of the age to be buying quite a bit of material that have never known much of vibrant broadcast music scene.
I encourage you to seek out public/university stations and look for locally produced music shows. From your mention of Clear Channel, I assume you are in the US. While it is somewhat difficult going cross country, the lower FM frequencies are the best place to start.
I don't think enough emphasis is given to the poor quality of radio when considering the record industry's alledged market woes. It used to be that there was a much more active radio environment showing off their wares. The problem with 'One CD fits all' is that it doesn't and if you don't produce a large variety, you saturate the buying public.
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This is an aspect of forums like slashdot -- no handling of the topic of a thread's inevitable migration. Still no story that I can recall so clearly demonstrates this facet.
It is somewhat like having a anonymous painting of a house hanging in a museum for years suddenly being attributed to a famous master -- and then having all the discussion center on the qualities of the house, not the painting or the painter.
There has been very recent activity in trying to patent the FAT filesystem. Unsuccessfully, IIRC. Slashdot, Sep 30th
I find the GP post to agree with my understanding of the recent Linux/NTFS history. It will be great when full r/w access to NTFS for Linux is solid enough to be enabled by most distros. I think this is small but significant detraction from using Linux in some situations.
By the way, I started this comment on my laptop while lounging around prior to my morning routine, but ran low on battery. I suspended to disk, and resumed hours later, checking to see if anyone else had raised my point first. As a 1994 Linux user and cheap ass who went years before upgrading my notebook hardware, this makes me very happy.
Its self explanatory really. Even an unstable OS can generally rack up decent uptime when there are no apps for it.
You can always hope to be allowed to meta mod that particular stroke of genius
If the GP will please go to the nearest LaGrange point and then I would willing listen to its pedantic objections about zero-G.
I find that very interesting, the flaws in the OS, i.e. Microsoft product for most folk, would lead them to unknowingly commit alleged crimes. Then we could put two sets of lawyers in a round pit and see who is left.
Meta-modded your comment. Your sig made me laugh. Thanks.
I hope you won't be offended if I ask if you are young - or more precisely how long you have been an observer of such things, currently in your life or as a student of history. I am not particularly surprised by the current state of affairs.
Which requires a more intelligent hack to defeat. The escalation is predictable. Anyone attempting this might as well go to the point of something more than a simple trick from the start.
But taking the idea of more than one download as a starting point, the multiple approach you suggest is valid. Seeing that the download will almost certainly be done as TCP request(s) sourced by the Tivo box (they already support NAT through routers), one could claim that their requests were monitored.....
Still a quicker and more anonymous approach would be to extract from DVD - rental fees roughly equating with downloaded Pay-Per-View pricing.
Don't get me wrong, I an all in favor of fair use copying. In particular, I find that making copies of movie titles for my Sony DVD changer yields far more preferable discs than the originals. When my two year old kid wants Winnie the Pooh, an FBI screen and mandatory menu are not what is called for.
Seeing that this is slashdot and there always seems to be someone willing to take the contrary position, I give an example, a sound card laying on my desk. FCC ID LWA521-T9.
These IDs can be checked at https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/ GenericSearch.cfm
Within the last month I had to use this to track down the manufacturer of a proximity detector connected to my wife's car alarm.
PS, to Jim: I re-read before posting. I want to be clear that I meant other poster, not yourself, might well contradict this in the absence of other proof.
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Hell, even Tivo is more enlightened than this.
Let them know what you think....
Here I sit with mod points and the frame of mind to slap whoever puts up the expected "I, for one, welcome our....." post. However no one has come forward.
No time now -- will dig deeper later.
I ran across your new post while shutting down to reboot in the new kernel. Here goes........
However, understanding the cause does not necessarily equate to a solution. Like most Win apps, I cannot change it much. In this case, I cannot force it to use different names. Therefore it remains a problem should I need to do that particular operation again. I would like to have an option in mounting the FAT fs under Linux. Perhaps with your info I might find one.
Thanks
Just a stab but I was using a FAT filesystem for mass exchange of data between Linux and WinXP apps on the same machine. I found it quite annoying that there was something screwing with the upper vs. lower case on my filenames. Windows would write upper and linux would see it as lower. I'm hoping that you are the bearer of good news.....
Perhaps my experience might help you. I had a single WinXP partion and multiple Linux partitions on a 120G drive. When I needed to upgrade the kernel (the most current Linux installed was modified RH9) as well as several other components, I took the plunge. Because of the issues of dual boot problems having been mentioned here on /., I made sure that I had a full backup. Even though it was a 120G disk, I was able to clear out a great deal and reduced the image backup to fit on 2 DVDs.
So, I installed. Sure enough, no XP. Dug into the situation for five minutes on the web and found the advice to change BIOS setting for the multi-boot drive to manually be LBA, as opposed to leaving in the AUTO mode. Now, previously, I would have thought that the LBA mode would have been selected by the automatic setting but, hey, the cost of trying was certainly low. Tried it, it worked.
So, in your situation, I would be curious to hear what your backup status is. If you don't have decent backups, you are always going to be at some risk. I would go with some sort of image backup. This is easy to do if you have linux running but I gather that you may not on this box. Try using Knoppix.
In fairness, there is no dev branch as of yet. So this is the way of all progress in the kernel for now
Those problems were not in the kernel per se but in the way the auxillary pieces were deployed -- mainly the boot loader.
PS: This is being written on the system which which I had that issue. Solved now.
I find your position interesting. Could you elaborate on their history of defensive use of patents?
Yeah. I noticed that some time back. I think that it is less than ideal. That is why mine has been as below for some time. But you'll have to take my word on it.
Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for that one. The Sony supplanted my first player which fairly well fits your description of 'generic Chinese'. It was upgradable to turn off macrovision and made region free. I haven't tried my DVD of MP3's on it yet. My two year-old broke the front off of the disc drawer as well as cracking the outside edge of a commercial disc Grandma had just bought. That is why I went to the 400-disc changer. The new player is up and out of reach. Consequently it will be the main player for some time to come.
Your post got me thinking of this again. I tried googling for the phrase "DVD of MP3s". It got only 16 displayable results, many of which were people bemoaning the same situation as I have. However, there was at least one UK post about a player that does do OK, Ronin or some such. I just bought and am out of the market for a while but still interested.
Unfortunately I can tell you that my new Sony 400 disc changer only does MP3s on CD media. I tried a DVD, it popped up a message on the order of 'cannot play this disc'. This has been my only disappointment with the unit but was not unexpected.
It seems pretty assine to me. Giving more priority to the media type than the content is like a human reader claiming they can't read a language on a computer screen, they can only read paper while reading other things off a screen just fine. (Perhaps this analogy will provoke some interesting examples of difficulty with screens.)
Also, I know what you mean about the radio. Currently commercial pop music broadcasting sucks - especially when compared to its past. And not necessarily its recent past, either. This means that there are kids of the age to be buying quite a bit of material that have never known much of vibrant broadcast music scene.
I encourage you to seek out public/university stations and look for locally produced music shows. From your mention of Clear Channel, I assume you are in the US. While it is somewhat difficult going cross country, the lower FM frequencies are the best place to start.
I don't think enough emphasis is given to the poor quality of radio when considering the record industry's alledged market woes. It used to be that there was a much more active radio environment showing off their wares. The problem with 'One CD fits all' is that it doesn't and if you don't produce a large variety, you saturate the buying public.