your cynicism is justified however their raw data can be useful...esp the free raw data...it's worth a look if you think Gartner is at all influential (i couldn't say myself re: Gartner)
"internet of things" is a redundant concept...same as "the cloud"
it's all just "the internet"
the fact that you hook up your bike tire to a sensor so you get an email when your air is low isn't a new "thing" that should be given a "name"
it's just a further application of an existing technology...
big brother and his capitalist cousin want "the internet of things" to control our behavior..."the cloud" is a way to get you to put all your data with one "carrier" be it google, apple, or another...they want to have as much of your behavior on their system as possible
so there's a component of dishonesty..."the cloud" and "the internet of things" were phrases chosen to obscure and confuse meaning not communicate it
it's about whether you think "buzzword" is a good or bad thing
see, i'm with you completely on this:
The internet of things sounds so stupid. In the spirit of stupid marketing phrases that mean nothing like "the cloud"
TFA comes from a different angle...and more importantly the Gartner report it references, take a critical approach, but not the same one as you and I
the Gartner report examines the words on a function of **expectations**
we are judging it on accuracy & functionality
the problem is, the Gartner people are limiting their analysis to a factor that is not consistent..."expectations" are too variable to use as an experimental variable
it's all soft science, but Gartner is analyzing hype with more hype which made for the confusion...interesting though
we've mapped the Snowden possible responses...everyone has expressed their opinions on his motivations...we've examined virtually every scenario
IMHO he was duped or blackmailed and is now essentially in jail in Russia...others say 'hero'...or 'traitor'
we know the whole universe of factors that could be combined to make an opinion on Snowden...we know all the possiblities...and have seen someone argue about them here on/.
**it's time we agree that spy agencies (CIA, NSA, etc) need more oversight & accountability & Snowden is more than he appears to be and has at least mixed motivations**
in my company they are called "talent managers" who have their heads so firmly up their asses that they convolute everything to the point even HR can't stand them.
ouch..."talent managers"...
maybe it is the middle managers (managers who are above both the HR person & manager of the position being filled) sometimes
my second point was that there was no feedback mechanism for improvement
some HR people are great...I can think of two specifically in my life...both for mid-sized companies in publishing
the *concept* of an online job application is fairly simple from a coding perspective...making some kind of form requires some choices but this is basic stuff
the systemic issue is with the people who define the parameters for the information...the HR people
HR is usually full of people making decisions that affect whole systems they have no understanding of and have no way of receiving feedback systemically to improve, part of the general problem in US biz structure
applying for a job is excruciating in the US today...it's just layers and layers of bad management
i can agree with everything you said...as I said below to someone else, it's the arguing over linguistic differences of words ad infinitum and how it effects the work environment of coding/programming that gets me hot under the collar
i'm fine with agreeing to disagree, as long as we work to end the argument...it's the noise of the argument that irks me so much...it's a stupid thing to argue about and it hurts our industry b/c people new to "coding" and "programming" are hopelessly lost
AC parent is a troll...whoever modded it 'insightful' is a racist
race is not tied to intelligence and only idiots go looking for some kind of connection...it's been disproven over and over...it's like trying to prove the world is flat still
look at all the ignorant white trash in this country
it can only defend against racists who would misuse it
also, "sharing genetic similarities" is so broad anything could be correlated...this research is all over the map and, if you agree with GP the best idea is to not even consider the researchers findings
if it is true, it shows that meritocracy has no ethical basis
also:
But since this is correlation-is-causation century, I thought I might as well go for it.
this is the reality...a bunch of idiots learned they can use science language to bolster any theory if you can get 51% to answer one side of zero on a likert scale...now we really are in the 'correlation-is-causation century'
there is a sizable minority of people in modern society who are full-on 'social darwinists' in that they would go hook, line, and sinker for a program that told them it would bring us Brave New World level society
they'd get 1984 of course, but they'd believe a company/monarch/government that would **promise** a utopia
here's part of the issue...***they don't acknowledge their beliefs***
they don't self-identify as a 'social darwinist' or 'eugenics proponent' ever
**by function** they are...the policies, attitudes, and beliefs they champion are exactly the same as the eugenics/social engineering types.
CSS & HTML5 ***are*** code languages for programming machine behavior
*at the presentation level*
it's not an "original gangster" hardcore badass super 1337 C#+! language...it's not complex or "bragable" at a gathering of dorks trying to impress each other...
but it's symbols that form a code that humans use to 'program' machine behavior...that's a programming language
just accept it, once and for all, and stop all of you....just stop
it doesnt make your skillz any less bragable...it's a coding language...mostly visual design oriented...
***HTML5&CSS are not threats to your bragging rights***
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lol totally showed my age there
your cynicism is justified however their raw data can be useful...esp the free raw data...it's worth a look if you think Gartner is at all influential (i couldn't say myself re: Gartner)
"internet of things" is a redundant concept...same as "the cloud"
it's all just "the internet"
the fact that you hook up your bike tire to a sensor so you get an email when your air is low isn't a new "thing" that should be given a "name"
it's just a further application of an existing technology...
big brother and his capitalist cousin want "the internet of things" to control our behavior..."the cloud" is a way to get you to put all your data with one "carrier" be it google, apple, or another...they want to have as much of your behavior on their system as possible
so there's a component of dishonesty..."the cloud" and "the internet of things" were phrases chosen to obscure and confuse meaning not communicate it
it's about whether you think "buzzword" is a good or bad thing
see, i'm with you completely on this:
TFA comes from a different angle...and more importantly the Gartner report it references, take a critical approach, but not the same one as you and I
the Gartner report examines the words on a function of **expectations**
we are judging it on accuracy & functionality
the problem is, the Gartner people are limiting their analysis to a factor that is not consistent..."expectations" are too variable to use as an experimental variable
it's all soft science, but Gartner is analyzing hype with more hype which made for the confusion...interesting though
you missed my point:
"Snowden is X"
where X is a scenario that explains his behavior (hero, traitor, dupe, blackmail victim, etc, etc)
we've seen all possible variations of X debated here on /. and it's time to move the fuck on
aren't we past this by now?
we've debated Snowden's actions ad infinitum
we've mapped the Snowden possible responses...everyone has expressed their opinions on his motivations...we've examined virtually every scenario
IMHO he was duped or blackmailed and is now essentially in jail in Russia...others say 'hero'...or 'traitor'
we know the whole universe of factors that could be combined to make an opinion on Snowden...we know all the possiblities...and have seen someone argue about them here on /.
**it's time we agree that spy agencies (CIA, NSA, etc) need more oversight & accountability & Snowden is more than he appears to be and has at least mixed motivations**
ouch..."talent managers"...
maybe it is the middle managers (managers who are above both the HR person & manager of the position being filled) sometimes
my second point was that there was no feedback mechanism for improvement
some HR people are great...I can think of two specifically in my life...both for mid-sized companies in publishing
the problem is HR
the *concept* of an online job application is fairly simple from a coding perspective...making some kind of form requires some choices but this is basic stuff
the systemic issue is with the people who define the parameters for the information...the HR people
HR is usually full of people making decisions that affect whole systems they have no understanding of and have no way of receiving feedback systemically to improve, part of the general problem in US biz structure
applying for a job is excruciating in the US today...it's just layers and layers of bad management
an alphabet is a set of symbols
some languages have few...others, many
binary the former, chinese the latter
i can agree with everything you said...as I said below to someone else, it's the arguing over linguistic differences of words ad infinitum and how it effects the work environment of coding/programming that gets me hot under the collar
well thanks for an intelligent response
i'm fine with agreeing to disagree, as long as we work to end the argument...it's the noise of the argument that irks me so much...it's a stupid thing to argue about and it hurts our industry b/c people new to "coding" and "programming" are hopelessly lost
i thought we were past this 'turing complete' shit...
seriously, given the right conditions, I can piss in a jar and it can be 'turing complete'
Turing did some very good work, obviously, but the whole computability function test has been shown to be reductive and just an abstraction
machines execute instructions. end.
so Whibla,
interesting comment, but there's not much for me to respond to...you just posed a bunch of questions in response to my question
you make a conjecture in the interrogative, then say "who knows?" over and over
basically for you it's about definitions of terms...
you won't accept any answer...
so you're saying genetics can limit how intelligent someone can be
tell me, what would be good evidence enough for you?
what level of scientific proof, specifically, must be met?
explain what would be sufficient evidence of your conjecture that 'races' are genetically limited to how intelligent they can be
I'm honestly astounded at the lack of basic language understanding among /.'ers...
plain text are ***symbols***
just like for machine code only when 1 and 0 are used...the 1 & 0 are symbols....doesn't matter how many symbols a language has
all languages, coding or human or chimpanzee, are made up of symbols
yes binary could be called a 'language' b/c it's a set of consistent symbols that orders instructions for a machine
it doesn't have to be human-readable to be code
you can't redefine "coding" by calling everything "data"
it's instructions for a machine...that's coding...
you're playing linguistic games & no matter how you do it you're still wrong functionally
presentation is behavior...in fact, if all you have is a monitor **all behavior is presentation**
if use HTML5 to tell a computer to display a black background when you go to a URL
OR i could do the same to ****PROGRAM**** the computer to display a white background when you go to a URL
either way, user enters data (URL in browser) and computer returns a ***PROGRAMMED*** response
programmed using HTML5 so that the browser knows it's the *background* that is to be black, not another part
that's programming no matter how you define it...the definition of programming is clear
what's not clear is why people think HTML & CSS are not programming
it is...accept it
hasn't this been prove, over and over?
all of this science is stupid...this is a bad use of social science/psychology/biology
the whole ontology is reductive & with certainty will produce off-kilter results that are useless for comparison
asshat mods are out in force today
AC parent is a troll...whoever modded it 'insightful' is a racist
race is not tied to intelligence and only idiots go looking for some kind of connection...it's been disproven over and over...it's like trying to prove the world is flat still
look at all the ignorant white trash in this country
science cannot end racism
it can only defend against racists who would misuse it
also, "sharing genetic similarities" is so broad anything could be correlated...this research is all over the map and, if you agree with GP the best idea is to not even consider the researchers findings
good comment AC
the **best part** is this gem:
also:
this is the reality...a bunch of idiots learned they can use science language to bolster any theory if you can get 51% to answer one side of zero on a likert scale...now we really are in the 'correlation-is-causation century'
there is a sizable minority of people in modern society who are full-on 'social darwinists' in that they would go hook, line, and sinker for a program that told them it would bring us Brave New World level society
they'd get 1984 of course, but they'd believe a company/monarch/government that would **promise** a utopia
here's part of the issue...***they don't acknowledge their beliefs***
they don't self-identify as a 'social darwinist' or 'eugenics proponent' ever
**by function** they are...the policies, attitudes, and beliefs they champion are exactly the same as the eugenics/social engineering types.
social darwinism is the enemy of freedom
whoever upmodded the above comment is a bad moderator
parent is a troll...obviously...
that's trolling...it's not connected to anything other than an ideal easily offended...equality
TFA is worth picking apart but parent's response is not conducive to productive discussion (or funny)
whateverthefuckasshats who moderated it up are idiots and encouraging trolling
CSS & HTML5 ***are*** code languages for programming machine behavior
*at the presentation level*
it's not an "original gangster" hardcore badass super 1337 C#+! language...it's not complex or "bragable" at a gathering of dorks trying to impress each other...
but it's symbols that form a code that humans use to 'program' machine behavior...that's a programming language
just accept it, once and for all, and stop all of you....just stop
it doesnt make your skillz any less bragable...it's a coding language...mostly visual design oriented...
***HTML5&CSS are not threats to your bragging rights***
how do we know Kaspersky Labs is legit?
they've got to have the means to do this...
same with McAfee