Invoking god is essentially 'giving up' on finding a natural answer.
god is 'invoked' for virtually everything people do, countless times daily....you're lumping all of them into one context and it just hurts the conversation
what you describe, when ignorant (usually southern and poor) people refuse to change some arcane rule or behavior that should have changed long ago but survived due to bigotry excused as 'faith' or 'religion'...
that's one, very narrow, very obnoixious, virtually intolerable time people talk about 'god'....it's intellectually reductive & makes us all dumber to lump any use of the term 'god' into that one context
also, 'god' of course isn't only a christian word...the point was that science isn't "anti" any religion or belief system....
science is constructive...a system to construct knowledge & share/verify it with others...
technically that is "anti-ignorance" in the same way that saying medicine is "anti-sickness"....it's technically true but it is just a "truism"
slide to unlock and pinch zoom clearly have prior art
no one should have ever had to show prior art...the patents for UI elements like "pinch and zoom" are absolutely ludicrous & are a product of ignorance and manipulation
I think this goes to the core of your understanding of this issue...this you describe here, this should not be at all patentable:
One obvious example is the keyboard/trackpad layout of all modern laptops. It was Apple on their PowerBooks who pushed the keyboard toward the screen, making room for palmrests and pointing devices below. Prior to that, everyone was putting keyboards tight against the lower edge. They didn't patent it, and the rest of the industry quickly followed.
if this is "what is patentable" then its so broad nothing matters...it's a complete waste of time to think about these issues
what should be patentable? I don't have the answers, but that doesn't mean we can't conclude that the status quo is waaaaay too broad to be consistent from one patent to the next
I don't know what I expected, but 10,000 word essays on what he learned form drug dealing internationally? It was like being in a late-night drunken conversation with the only other American in a bar in Thailand. And that guy used to work for the CIA and is crazy.
Totally unexpected.
Now more than ever I suspect that McAfee Virus Scan was itself a spyware virus.
I am a critic of M$ but I do not think they should be required by law.
Only in the case of some sort of long-term contract that is still in effect, that mentions specifically updating software until a time in the future...unless that is the case.
These laws are complex and the photocopier example is interesting.
I am against artificial scarcity for sure...that's one reason I hate M$...but I think this may cross the line. If M$ wants to let XP die then they have the right to refuse to make vital trade secret info available to people who want to keep it alive.
I have a feeling the photocopier example is more about purposefully creating artificial scarcity. It's not quite analogous b/c it's an actual machine not software.
I'm not giving M$ a pass. Its about property rights. If people love XP so much (i remember it was the only windows version i could really get work done using...would still choose it today) then the community will come up with a solution...which should be legal to give away for free.
in the context of this conversation we all have to be consistent...i'm not saying you, phantomfive, are not consistent but just firing off criticisms with no linkage to the actual policies and laws & who originates them and votes for them
we don't have to just say "they all suck"...it's more complex than that and we're not idiots
of course conversations don't **have** to be consistent either...but productive discussion must have consistency...
you know that there are actuall **bills** that are voted on...and that Dem's and Rep's are at **constant opposition**
you know that right?
bills passed are law...its not some theoretical simulation
every bill you can name, practically, that helps Oligarchs maintain their status quo...every law that reduces social programs....every law that takes away civil rights...
Bush started the NSA warrantless wiretapping program...and the metadata program...Ron Wyden exposed it by talking about it openly in Senate speeches....Obama ended many of the programs Bush started
Bush started the NSA warrantless wiretapping/spying program
"NSA Has Massive Database of American's Phone Calls"
Last year, Bush said he had authorized the NSA to eavesdrop — without warrants — on international calls and international e-mails of people suspected of having links to terrorists when one party to the communication is in the USA. Warrants have also not been used in the NSA's efforts to create a national call database.
a Republican president, like say George W. Bush, could put the NSA plan right back into effect
with ***Congress*** passing a law it makes that avenue alot more difficult
there is...ahem...alot of support for NSA reform...
the question should be, why **wont** Republicans in Congress sign off on reform???
i know this explanation has a few levels of complexity so its easier to troll, but i'm right...this is what's happening....Obama does not support a policy of warrantless wiretaps
science is not "anti" anything....it is a method for consistently and comparatively observing the universe & sharing what we learn
the point is, GP said science was "anti-Christian" and "anti-god" and I said it's not anti-anything....it is a method for consistenly and comparatively observing the universe and sharing what we learn
what has happened over the past 20 years is not that people are losing their religion, but that people feel more free to admit that they never had one.
my question wasn't "loaded" your context which you hear my question is biased
you're one of those who gets fanboi narcissists **self-confidence** from knowing & pointing out irrelevant esoteric details
nitpicking is trolling
I wanted **desktop and laptop** systems...what "flavor"
what has happened over the past 20 years is not that people are losing their religion, but that people feel more free to admit that they never had one.
great point...holy shit I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this...
this study's research design drives me absolutely insane...
just imagine what conclusions you could jump to if what the researchers in TFA did could ***actually*** establish causation!!!
you're right on...I'm the product of 18 years of fundamental indpendent baptist education (yes undergrad too)....YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT...
this is about feeling safe to be *honest* not any sort of societal shift
It's important to note that the threshold to "prove" causality in any way in this kind of study (anthropology) is ridiculously high.
This study does not meet it by a long shot...few could just becuase of the complexity of the language & concepts.
"religion" is so many things to so many people, unless you take great care in defining terms, you will have mass confusion from your respondents...
with the "religion" example, some fundamental independent born-again Christians would answer like an atheist to question about "religions" because many are taught that only ***Organized*** church groups on a large scale are "religion"
they consider themselves "spiritual" not "religious"
that's just the start...**the whole study is founded on this error**
Slashdot Mirror
yes.
Putin is wearing the Patriots' owner's Super Bowl ring as we speak: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/...
Parent is trolling...it's about getting people to comment not making a point...
Sure, Obama received the Nobel Prize, and his critics can assuredly be relied upon to...um...criticize it...but the above comment is pure TROLL
the fact that it has been modded "interesting" means that users are modding for their personal political beliefs not to foster discussion
if this is "interesting" then you're an idiot
I look at wikipedia like breathing but it won't tell you how "prestigious" this award is in literary circles without more digging...
WTF the summary is biased..."evidence aside" says the headline...then the summary continues, drawing paralells between this and the Cold War
criminals do this **routinely**
to think otherwise is foolish and naive
Oh...psssht....that's **all**
wtf FBI? /sarcasm
"no real threat"....you're a moron
god is 'invoked' for virtually everything people do, countless times daily....you're lumping all of them into one context and it just hurts the conversation
what you describe, when ignorant (usually southern and poor) people refuse to change some arcane rule or behavior that should have changed long ago but survived due to bigotry excused as 'faith' or 'religion'...
that's one, very narrow, very obnoixious, virtually intolerable time people talk about 'god'....it's intellectually reductive & makes us all dumber to lump any use of the term 'god' into that one context
also, 'god' of course isn't only a christian word...the point was that science isn't "anti" any religion or belief system....
science is constructive...a system to construct knowledge & share/verify it with others...
technically that is "anti-ignorance" in the same way that saying medicine is "anti-sickness"....it's technically true but it is just a "truism"
no one should have ever had to show prior art...the patents for UI elements like "pinch and zoom" are absolutely ludicrous & are a product of ignorance and manipulation
I think this goes to the core of your understanding of this issue...this you describe here, this should not be at all patentable:
if this is "what is patentable" then its so broad nothing matters...it's a complete waste of time to think about these issues
what should be patentable? I don't have the answers, but that doesn't mean we can't conclude that the status quo is waaaaay too broad to be consistent from one patent to the next
also there were only 6 participants
yes.
of course it does.
I wanted to poll about desktop & laptop usage...not mobile
What is more interesting is **why** you felt the need to point that out...
I don't know what I expected, but 10,000 word essays on what he learned form drug dealing internationally? It was like being in a late-night drunken conversation with the only other American in a bar in Thailand. And that guy used to work for the CIA and is crazy.
Totally unexpected.
Now more than ever I suspect that McAfee Virus Scan was itself a spyware virus.
I am a critic of M$ but I do not think they should be required by law.
Only in the case of some sort of long-term contract that is still in effect, that mentions specifically updating software until a time in the future...unless that is the case.
These laws are complex and the photocopier example is interesting.
I am against artificial scarcity for sure...that's one reason I hate M$...but I think this may cross the line. If M$ wants to let XP die then they have the right to refuse to make vital trade secret info available to people who want to keep it alive.
I have a feeling the photocopier example is more about purposefully creating artificial scarcity. It's not quite analogous b/c it's an actual machine not software.
I'm not giving M$ a pass. Its about property rights. If people love XP so much (i remember it was the only windows version i could really get work done using...would still choose it today) then the community will come up with a solution...which should be legal to give away for free.
of course it's allowed...
in the context of this conversation we all have to be consistent...i'm not saying you, phantomfive, are not consistent but just firing off criticisms with no linkage to the actual policies and laws & who originates them and votes for them
we don't have to just say "they all suck"...it's more complex than that and we're not idiots
of course conversations don't **have** to be consistent either...but productive discussion must have consistency...
the Bush admin admitted it from the beginning
Just because you say they "became his" doesn't mean you have proven any kind of point.
We have discussed why he's trying to go through Congress.
If NSA warrantless wiretapping is so universally despised **why arent' Republicans putting forth their own bills?**
you know that there are actuall **bills** that are voted on...and that Dem's and Rep's are at **constant opposition**
you know that right?
bills passed are law...its not some theoretical simulation
every bill you can name, practically, that helps Oligarchs maintain their status quo...every law that reduces social programs....every law that takes away civil rights...
**all Republicans**
democrats vote against the laws
extraordinary claims deserve extraordinary evidence
you can't blame Dem's for Bush's policies
NSA warrantless wiretapping started under Bush, everyone knows this: http://yahoo.usatoday.com/news...
From 2006: NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls
Bush started the NSA warrantless wiretapping programs. These are in no way, shape or form "Obama's programs"
Bush started the NSA warrantless wiretapping program...and the metadata program...Ron Wyden exposed it by talking about it openly in Senate speeches....Obama ended many of the programs Bush started
Bush started the NSA warrantless wiretapping/spying program
that's why I "blame" him for it
here's the evidence: http://yahoo.usatoday.com/news... from **2006**
"NSA Has Massive Database of American's Phone Calls"
it's because an executive order can be undone just as easily by the next President
if Congress passes a law it will have alot more standing than an exc. order
if reforming the NSA is so obvious, why do Republicans in Congress oppose it?
"With a stroke of a pen..."
a Republican president, like say George W. Bush, could put the NSA plan right back into effect
with ***Congress*** passing a law it makes that avenue alot more difficult
there is...ahem...alot of support for NSA reform...
the question should be, why **wont** Republicans in Congress sign off on reform???
i know this explanation has a few levels of complexity so its easier to troll, but i'm right...this is what's happening....Obama does not support a policy of warrantless wiretaps
"I'm not sure what your point was here."
from my comment above:
the point is, GP said science was "anti-Christian" and "anti-god" and I said it's not anti-anything....it is a method for consistenly and comparatively observing the universe and sharing what we learn
my question wasn't "loaded" your context which you hear my question is biased
you're one of those who gets fanboi narcissists **self-confidence** from knowing & pointing out irrelevant esoteric details
nitpicking is trolling
I wanted **desktop and laptop** systems...what "flavor"
you're a troll to nitpick that
great point...holy shit I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this...
this study's research design drives me absolutely insane...
just imagine what conclusions you could jump to if what the researchers in TFA did could ***actually*** establish causation!!!
you're right on...I'm the product of 18 years of fundamental indpendent baptist education (yes undergrad too)....YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT...
this is about feeling safe to be *honest* not any sort of societal shift
It's important to note that the threshold to "prove" causality in any way in this kind of study (anthropology) is ridiculously high.
This study does not meet it by a long shot...few could just becuase of the complexity of the language & concepts.
"religion" is so many things to so many people, unless you take great care in defining terms, you will have mass confusion from your respondents...
with the "religion" example, some fundamental independent born-again Christians would answer like an atheist to question about "religions" because many are taught that only ***Organized*** church groups on a large scale are "religion"
they consider themselves "spiritual" not "religious"
that's just the start...**the whole study is founded on this error**
this is "Reefer Madness" level error...
we all know if a girl takes one hit of marijuana she will become uncontrollably attracted to men of other races
ftfy