look, I don't understand why I have to suck up to Hawking by quoting his resume to you in order to criticize his science
he's a scientist and public figure who presented research...fair game...i know he's a genius & has done great work but **fuck that**
what is THIS theory? seriously read through this thread...so many/.'ers dont even discuss the actual theory or physics or cosmology they just argue about Hawking
I want to discuss the actual research & theory
if this idea holds up, it is a statement that classical black holes do not exist.
no, it will be a statement that **Hawking's Version** of Black Holes do not exist...which we already know anyway
Hawking is not the be-all-end-all of black hole research...his cosmology was & still is popular but he's become biased egregiously to his own legacy
Black Holes are bubbles of Quantum Foam. They are the same as what is beyond the horizon of the universe itself. The Event Horizon simultaneously has a quantum entaglement with anything that touches it's surface (the hologram) then all that it was, light, matter, radiation, etc etc. gets turned into the pure randomness of the black hole itself.
Black Holes are truly pure nothingness. Nothing escapes it but the total area of the event horizon expands in relation to the matter/energy that touches it.
Hawking is a genius but he crosses the line of scientific skepticism. He's actually a very biased scientist promoting an agenda. His book a brief history of time has a late chapter where he theorizes that a 'god' could not exist in two of 4 types of universes...one being a universe that ends in heat death. He crosses the line of skepticism into promoting an agenda.
you could defend him by noting that none other than Sir Issac Newton did the same thing...but Newton's reputation and his enduring work are separate things...one is hype one is what matters to this discussion. Newton's theories were **helpful**...I'm sorry that Hawking felt Cambridge crammed them down is throat like dogma but the solution is not to react in the opposite way!
Hawking is to me a joke now. I don't take his work seriously. He gave up his Scientific perspective & just now takes any new thing that might replace his theories & makes up new components of his theory.
Sure Relativity has it's problems...*why should we expect otherwise?*
We do not have our Theory of Everything yet...so, by logic, our theories will conflict at some point...otherwise we'd have a theory of everything!
Relativity & Quantum Physics don't need Hawking redefining Black Holes yet again to keep his work relevant.
This isn't an article about Science...it's PR for Stephen Hawking.
there is absolutely no substitute for a human pilot
remote controled planes (aka 'drones') have been around for 50 years and they have awesome applications...today's smaller components & wider wireless control channels allow for more automation...
but RC planes are not able to react to surroundings & adapt like a human...which is the most important factor...adaptation...that's what air combat is ***ALL ABOUT***...exploiting the weaknesses of your opponent
like in the Cold War, our F-15's had radar that could provide 'missile lock' on the best Soviet plane several miles before the MiG could do the same...which is how you win air combat
dogfighting & close air support is similar but decisions must be made much faster based on continually changing information that **cannot** be anticipated before the battle
lastly, the thing that kills your point about drones replacing humans fully is **ELECTRONIC COUNTERMEASURES**
what good are RC planes if they are spoofed or jammed?
yeah this research is virtually worthless...they make an increasingly common mistake of taking an analogy that indicates correlation, namely: "humans usage of networks is similar to viral infection of cells" and treat it as if it is some sort of physics law that is applicable in all ways. It's lazy research!
besides their bad analogy resulting in a bad research question, they didn't gather any data, they just ran some crosstabs on an existing data set...THIS data set, FTA:
Cannarella and Spechler decided to use the frequency with which "Facebook" is typed into Google as their main dataset (various other studies have also relied on Google Trends as the basis for predictions).
to see if usage of 'facebook.com' "dies" like viruses die, you examine numbers of people who close their accounts. the worst is the part in parenthesis...sure there are times when number of google searches correlates well with popularity or usage, but its such a ridiculously tenuous connection & it doesn't matter how many other studies have used similar data sets.
facebook.com is not like a plague in one key way, people *want* its functionality just not its privacy invasion and lack of control.
to properly do this study, they can still let it 'spread' virally...but the virus analogy breaks down there...they need to have another factor that is a **REPLACEMENT NETWORK** that spreads in its place
Right I hear you. Huge bubbles of valuation still happening.
I honestly don't know *what* to think about bubble companies like Snapchat.
On one hand, it's bad for our industry to have such huge misperceptions of value...which filters down to the web designer job at a little design shop or a coder for a startup and even to how the government hires tech contractors.
On the flipside, it is amazing ammount of money for Snapchat, something which I'm sure alot of/.'ers could create with enough effort & maybe a non-tech partner. I love that the snapchats of the world are over-valued in that sense.
I *am* a business owner so I kind of have to decide...for me building businesses I'm hoping to sell I had to 'stick to the knitting' & not play the hype game, but I admit it is tempting.
that people have to become 'dorks' to become good at CS in college.
I'm saying that often times **many** programs do...not "all" you fsckface...a sizable number of programs. Just because you can think of an exception doesn't prove me wrong b/c I never said "all".
.......that proves navy culture is full of hazing, right?
no. it proves you are bad at analogies.
I'm not telling anyone how to live their life. My logic is sound. I honestly don't know why you think we disagree?
what's your point of contention?
are you saying 'dork' culture as I described isn't part of academia in those fields?
are you saying that students arent commonly 'weeded out' via abstract & non-work/education related hurdles in those fields?
don't put words in my mouth and dont ad homonym attack.
it's similar to 'hazing' in some ways but only in the same way the 'dork' pecking order is similar to the 'jock'/Wall Street trader type.
it is always wrong to waste people's time with pointless time consuming activities (like participating in 'dork' subculutre) in an educational/professional setting...no matter what analogy you use, be it boot camp or w/e, I'll always go to that heuristic
wow like magic you seem to have gotten my point and managed to identify it & make a coherent counterpoint
an incorrect counterpoint, but one I can engage with
Here's your problem.......you thought this was necessary.
no...I changed my major before classes began b/c I was in Air Force ROTC & tested high on the ASFAB so I had a job as a navigator waiting for me no matter what my major as long as it had a technical component & i didn't screw it up
I was **placed** in the dorms by the university with other EE & ME majors because my school tried to put people near each other who were in the same College w/in the school.
Not only that, I've talked at length with *most* CS majors & engineers throughout my career because i make it my business to learn what schooling works and why, inlcuding my time as a professor teaching human/computer interaction.
Add to my personal 1st hand experience, the experience of my direct peers and friends in college, the experience of engineers & computer scientists I've met all over the world (I did a semester of research in france)...
**So no, it's not because of anything you say at all.**
You want others to suffer needlessly & people like you are hurting both the tech industry & academia.
You finally were forced to engage my point, but all you did was Ad Homonym attack me...
My point was about Academia & how it fosters a poisonous environment & you can't counter it because its TRUE!
ok, cut the crap...i'm not saying what you're trying to infer...you're making an either/or logical fallacy...I'm speaking from personal experience w/ 10+ years in the industry aside from school.
What you don't realize is that those people have a life, and it might be better than yours.
you're either misconstruing what I mean by 'dork' or you think the negative things described (in depth for you, since you just seem to want to put words in my mouth) are somehow a good trait
an academic program that *practically* requires isolating yourself in a machivellian cloture of men who alienate themselves & occupy their time competing at computer games is just unprofessional
you make it out like I'm judging a fucking lifestyle but I'm not...it's unhealthy but people can do w/e they want...it's the ***education context***
any program that requires overcommitment and takes over your life unnecessarily for pecking-order type reasons is unprofessional...
it's too bad academia gets away with this so often because of people like you
you felt like you **had** to do this to succeed, you did it, and now you want **everyone else** to suffer like you...it's fucking bullshit!
Here's what I'm ascribing to you: you're saying, "those guys aren't doing what I like to do, therefore they are dorks." You're a brilliant one, alright.
i am categorically saying the opposite
I'm saying its wrong to 'weed out' potential engineers and computer programmers by tolerating bad teaching & tacitly encouraging a culture that fosters alienation of women, isolation, obsessive computer game playing, and an in-major pecking order that hurts students
everywhere you look today, people want to make you pay a monthly fee for something that used to be free...or make you pay separately for something that used to be included in the main price but not lower the main price & call it 'al la carte'
it's marketing idiots who spend their work days trying to make products with **LESS** features
see, this is more like what I want to see discussion-wise
in my mind, the Amendment is pretty fucking clear...get a warrant
i see two problems that have created the current mess we're in:
1. lawmakers *still* genuinely do not understand technology & the wording of new laws and interpretation of old laws, which is **entirely dependent on language** gets misunderstood and worded improperly and bam: you have the Digitlal Millenium Copyright Act and ridiculously worded search warrants that get thrown out of court
2. Patriot Act...it started before but that's a good milestone for our current intel/military/nsa/cia clusterfuck. Obviously, in order to protect from enemies foreign and domestic they need to be able to ask to search in a way that won't comprimise sources & methods or undercover agents. These are real problems, but there is a long-held system of classifying documents "top secret" and whatnot. The channels exist, they just need to be reorganized. The system for, say, the CIA to get permission to go through all your shit but not have a publicly available warrant needs to have clear, high hurdles with group accountability. End the compartmentalization of this stuff.
IMHO, the tech industry bears some of the responsibility for #1...we need to learn to explain things better. Talk at a high level but use words that connect abstract computing concepts to things everyday people understand but w/o dumbing down the complexity.
see, your impression is wrong...only frat-bro & the Bud Lite crowd think like you ascribe to everyone:
The bullshit is people who say, "you need to go out drinking to have a life."
one of the things you learn by interacting with others is that there are **MANY** people and 'types' that think the statement "you need to go out drinking to have a life" is bullshit just like you
there are all kinds of things going on Friday night besides playing Starcraft or going and getting completely shitfaced at some bar
The PS4 can't even play DVD's & CD's...Xbox was *nearly* required a persistent internet connection to play any game
Nintendo has plenty of room to improve the hardware department. Sony & M$ have given themselves over to the 'feature bottleneck' revenue plan and their designs reek of user manipulation at every turn.
Nintendo has always been better than that.
Some other points:
> It's not a single-console world. Most casual gamers have two consoles now. Nintendo doesn't have to destroy the competition completely to be a success
> Nintendo has revolutionized gaming with its hardware before & is wililng to take risks and innovate.
> Nintendo needs to embrace indie gamers: go Valve. If nintendo started its own version of valve, and let indie game makers use their SDK to make games downloadable for Nintendo hardware it would flatten the whole industry in less than a year and have the other companies on their heels
Nintendo can definitely rule the gaming world once more.
but it's not 'worthless'...you have to hack through it b/c they aim for the dumbest, most non-tech reader they can imagine...then dumb it down more...but the info is there
you don't need to just "give the researchers the benefit of the doubt"...that's foolish
"Quantum" computing is hype & the research saying it exists is flawed.
This is big news for some people. For me, I split time between the biz world & academia so this matters to me for many reasons.
One example: Research standards vs Hype. Standards for research are abyssmal, taken as a whole across the disciplines. So many times we see coorelation=causation falacies in news about 'new scientific research' like this BBC article.
Quantum Computing is part of that hype & TFA explains some research that confirms that statement!
"government spying" is loaded language...everyone is against "government spying" on its citizens like in the book 1984
what I want to see from this AC is actual policy solutions.
the government's job, per the constitution, is partly to use law enforcement & the military. the people have a right for their personal effect to be secure from that *unless* probable cause...etc
virtually everyone would agree that the above statements are accurate and true & reprsents how our system works
digital communications exist. we on/. understand how it all works.
digital communications, such as a routing table, IP address, MAC address, list of SMS's from a certain number, this is ALL personal data, covered by the US citizen's right to privacy
you, AC, and every critic of this policy must either be criticizing the very *existence* of government OR the debate is about when/how not if the government can access your personal data
the debate is about WHEN and HOW...the government has the right to access your personal data with proper warrant
what is proper warrant for the different kinds of digital communication?
THATS THE QUESTION that none of the privacy trolls here on slashdot want to discuss.
everyone wants to pop off fiery bon-mots about how X politician is just as bad as Bush & reference a work of fiction that critiques totalitarian regimes
its bullshit...it hurts our industry & makes our jobs harder
Slashdot Mirror
No, no...the Event Horizon of the Black Hole does all that.
The black hole itself is something that **NO** information can escape from, including light.
The Event Horizon is the continual process of matter/energy being consumed by the black hole...it is the thing that gives off "Hawking Radiation"
look, I don't understand why I have to suck up to Hawking by quoting his resume to you in order to criticize his science
he's a scientist and public figure who presented research...fair game...i know he's a genius & has done great work but **fuck that**
what is THIS theory? seriously read through this thread...so many /.'ers dont even discuss the actual theory or physics or cosmology they just argue about Hawking
I want to discuss the actual research & theory
no, it will be a statement that **Hawking's Version** of Black Holes do not exist...which we already know anyway
Hawking is not the be-all-end-all of black hole research...his cosmology was & still is popular but he's become biased egregiously to his own legacy
Black Holes are bubbles of Quantum Foam. They are the same as what is beyond the horizon of the universe itself. The Event Horizon simultaneously has a quantum entaglement with anything that touches it's surface (the hologram) then all that it was, light, matter, radiation, etc etc. gets turned into the pure randomness of the black hole itself.
Black Holes are truly pure nothingness. Nothing escapes it but the total area of the event horizon expands in relation to the matter/energy that touches it.
Hawking is a genius but he crosses the line of scientific skepticism. He's actually a very biased scientist promoting an agenda. His book a brief history of time has a late chapter where he theorizes that a 'god' could not exist in two of 4 types of universes...one being a universe that ends in heat death. He crosses the line of skepticism into promoting an agenda.
you could defend him by noting that none other than Sir Issac Newton did the same thing...but Newton's reputation and his enduring work are separate things...one is hype one is what matters to this discussion. Newton's theories were **helpful**...I'm sorry that Hawking felt Cambridge crammed them down is throat like dogma but the solution is not to react in the opposite way!
I love this comment...
Hawking is to me a joke now. I don't take his work seriously. He gave up his Scientific perspective & just now takes any new thing that might replace his theories & makes up new components of his theory.
Sure Relativity has it's problems...*why should we expect otherwise?*
We do not have our Theory of Everything yet...so, by logic, our theories will conflict at some point...otherwise we'd have a theory of everything!
Relativity & Quantum Physics don't need Hawking redefining Black Holes yet again to keep his work relevant.
This isn't an article about Science...it's PR for Stephen Hawking.
there is absolutely no substitute for a human pilot
remote controled planes (aka 'drones') have been around for 50 years and they have awesome applications...today's smaller components & wider wireless control channels allow for more automation...
but RC planes are not able to react to surroundings & adapt like a human...which is the most important factor...adaptation...that's what air combat is ***ALL ABOUT***...exploiting the weaknesses of your opponent
like in the Cold War, our F-15's had radar that could provide 'missile lock' on the best Soviet plane several miles before the MiG could do the same...which is how you win air combat
dogfighting & close air support is similar but decisions must be made much faster based on continually changing information that **cannot** be anticipated before the battle
lastly, the thing that kills your point about drones replacing humans fully is **ELECTRONIC COUNTERMEASURES**
what good are RC planes if they are spoofed or jammed?
yeah this research is virtually worthless...they make an increasingly common mistake of taking an analogy that indicates correlation, namely: "humans usage of networks is similar to viral infection of cells" and treat it as if it is some sort of physics law that is applicable in all ways. It's lazy research!
besides their bad analogy resulting in a bad research question, they didn't gather any data, they just ran some crosstabs on an existing data set...THIS data set, FTA:
to see if usage of 'facebook.com' "dies" like viruses die, you examine numbers of people who close their accounts. the worst is the part in parenthesis...sure there are times when number of google searches correlates well with popularity or usage, but its such a ridiculously tenuous connection & it doesn't matter how many other studies have used similar data sets.
facebook.com is not like a plague in one key way, people *want* its functionality just not its privacy invasion and lack of control.
to properly do this study, they can still let it 'spread' virally...but the virus analogy breaks down there...they need to have another factor that is a **REPLACEMENT NETWORK** that spreads in its place
Right I hear you. Huge bubbles of valuation still happening.
I honestly don't know *what* to think about bubble companies like Snapchat.
On one hand, it's bad for our industry to have such huge misperceptions of value...which filters down to the web designer job at a little design shop or a coder for a startup and even to how the government hires tech contractors.
On the flipside, it is amazing ammount of money for Snapchat, something which I'm sure alot of /.'ers could create with enough effort & maybe a non-tech partner. I love that the snapchats of the world are over-valued in that sense.
I *am* a business owner so I kind of have to decide...for me building businesses I'm hoping to sell I had to 'stick to the knitting' & not play the hype game, but I admit it is tempting.
you want to make trouble
I'M NOT SAYING THIS:
I'm saying that often times **many** programs do...not "all" you fsckface...a sizable number of programs. Just because you can think of an exception doesn't prove me wrong b/c I never said "all".
You understand but you'll still troll me forever.
This conversation is over.
So basically Lenovo got a server manufacturer for almost $1Billion less than Snapchat is worth.
no. it proves you are bad at analogies.
I'm not telling anyone how to live their life. My logic is sound. I honestly don't know why you think we disagree?
what's your point of contention?
are you saying 'dork' culture as I described isn't part of academia in those fields?
are you saying that students arent commonly 'weeded out' via abstract & non-work/education related hurdles in those fields?
don't put words in my mouth and dont ad homonym attack.
it's similar to 'hazing' in some ways but only in the same way the 'dork' pecking order is similar to the 'jock'/Wall Street trader type.
it is always wrong to waste people's time with pointless time consuming activities (like participating in 'dork' subculutre) in an educational/professional setting...no matter what analogy you use, be it boot camp or w/e, I'll always go to that heuristic
again, you are plainly making a logical fallacy
THIS PROVES MY WHOLE POINT
that the culture I describe is not necessary to educate engineers and programmers
boot camp is not needless suffering...
the situation I describe is absolutely unnecessary & needless
it shows your arrogance that you compare the two
wow like magic you seem to have gotten my point and managed to identify it & make a coherent counterpoint
an incorrect counterpoint, but one I can engage with
no...I changed my major before classes began b/c I was in Air Force ROTC & tested high on the ASFAB so I had a job as a navigator waiting for me no matter what my major as long as it had a technical component & i didn't screw it up
I was **placed** in the dorms by the university with other EE & ME majors because my school tried to put people near each other who were in the same College w/in the school.
Not only that, I've talked at length with *most* CS majors & engineers throughout my career because i make it my business to learn what schooling works and why, inlcuding my time as a professor teaching human/computer interaction.
Add to my personal 1st hand experience, the experience of my direct peers and friends in college, the experience of engineers & computer scientists I've met all over the world (I did a semester of research in france)...
**So no, it's not because of anything you say at all.**
You want others to suffer needlessly & people like you are hurting both the tech industry & academia.
You finally were forced to engage my point, but all you did was Ad Homonym attack me...
My point was about Academia & how it fosters a poisonous environment & you can't counter it because its TRUE!
ok, cut the crap...i'm not saying what you're trying to infer...you're making an either/or logical fallacy...I'm speaking from personal experience w/ 10+ years in the industry aside from school.
you're either misconstruing what I mean by 'dork' or you think the negative things described (in depth for you, since you just seem to want to put words in my mouth) are somehow a good trait
an academic program that *practically* requires isolating yourself in a machivellian cloture of men who alienate themselves & occupy their time competing at computer games is just unprofessional
you make it out like I'm judging a fucking lifestyle but I'm not...it's unhealthy but people can do w/e they want...it's the ***education context***
any program that requires overcommitment and takes over your life unnecessarily for pecking-order type reasons is unprofessional...
it's too bad academia gets away with this so often because of people like you
you felt like you **had** to do this to succeed, you did it, and now you want **everyone else** to suffer like you...it's fucking bullshit!
i am categorically saying the opposite
I'm saying its wrong to 'weed out' potential engineers and computer programmers by tolerating bad teaching & tacitly encouraging a culture that fosters alienation of women, isolation, obsessive computer game playing, and an in-major pecking order that hurts students
you're just waaaay off
ugh...I hate this
everywhere you look today, people want to make you pay a monthly fee for something that used to be free...or make you pay separately for something that used to be included in the main price but not lower the main price & call it 'al la carte'
it's marketing idiots who spend their work days trying to make products with **LESS** features
see, this is more like what I want to see discussion-wise
in my mind, the Amendment is pretty fucking clear...get a warrant
i see two problems that have created the current mess we're in:
1. lawmakers *still* genuinely do not understand technology & the wording of new laws and interpretation of old laws, which is **entirely dependent on language** gets misunderstood and worded improperly and bam: you have the Digitlal Millenium Copyright Act and ridiculously worded search warrants that get thrown out of court
2. Patriot Act...it started before but that's a good milestone for our current intel/military/nsa/cia clusterfuck. Obviously, in order to protect from enemies foreign and domestic they need to be able to ask to search in a way that won't comprimise sources & methods or undercover agents. These are real problems, but there is a long-held system of classifying documents "top secret" and whatnot. The channels exist, they just need to be reorganized. The system for, say, the CIA to get permission to go through all your shit but not have a publicly available warrant needs to have clear, high hurdles with group accountability. End the compartmentalization of this stuff.
IMHO, the tech industry bears some of the responsibility for #1...we need to learn to explain things better. Talk at a high level but use words that connect abstract computing concepts to things everyday people understand but w/o dumbing down the complexity.
see, your impression is wrong...only frat-bro & the Bud Lite crowd think like you ascribe to everyone:
one of the things you learn by interacting with others is that there are **MANY** people and 'types' that think the statement "you need to go out drinking to have a life" is bullshit just like you
there are all kinds of things going on Friday night besides playing Starcraft or going and getting completely shitfaced at some bar
**if you got out more you'd know that**
in my original post I said DVD's & CD's but I should have said **mp3's** & CD's
also: CD's nuts
just like with M$ and Xbox, and sadly with SimCity, only a fan outcry of epic proportions forces companies to unlock feature bottlenecks:
http://www.theverge.com/gaming...
so you downloaded the patch? were you one of the ones who had to lobby the company to let you do it?
exactly my point of the whole example in relation to why Nintendo can rule the console industry again
The PS4 can't even play DVD's & CD's...Xbox was *nearly* required a persistent internet connection to play any game
Nintendo has plenty of room to improve the hardware department. Sony & M$ have given themselves over to the 'feature bottleneck' revenue plan and their designs reek of user manipulation at every turn.
Nintendo has always been better than that.
Some other points:
> It's not a single-console world. Most casual gamers have two consoles now. Nintendo doesn't have to destroy the competition completely to be a success
> Nintendo has revolutionized gaming with its hardware before & is wililng to take risks and innovate.
> Nintendo needs to embrace indie gamers: go Valve. If nintendo started its own version of valve, and let indie game makers use their SDK to make games downloadable for Nintendo hardware it would flatten the whole industry in less than a year and have the other companies on their heels
Nintendo can definitely rule the gaming world once more.
who is this AC? is it deconfiction unlogged?
I'm confused...
also, if deconfiction wants to reply that would be nice...I'd like to hear what deconfiction thinks the policy about privacy should be
not complaining about how things ARE...but a description of policy of how things SHOULD BE
hey dude...I'm not your 'bro'...
nowhere did I contend what you say I contended...your comment is a string of straw man arguments...like this:
"just because the government can X doesnt mean they should"
where X is some thing that would invade privacy but maybe not technically be illegal
you're arguing against a straw man...there's like 3 or 4 points in there...it means nothing
I never said those things are good, or that they government should do them
I ASKED WHEN/HOW IT COULD BE DONE...if the answer is virtually never fine
I'll agree that
but it's not 'worthless'...you have to hack through it b/c they aim for the dumbest, most non-tech reader they can imagine...then dumb it down more...but the info is there
you don't need to just "give the researchers the benefit of the doubt"...that's foolish
"Quantum" computing is hype & the research saying it exists is flawed.
This is big news for some people. For me, I split time between the biz world & academia so this matters to me for many reasons.
One example: Research standards vs Hype. Standards for research are abyssmal, taken as a whole across the disciplines. So many times we see coorelation=causation falacies in news about 'new scientific research' like this BBC article.
Quantum Computing is part of that hype & TFA explains some research that confirms that statement!
"government spying" is loaded language...everyone is against "government spying" on its citizens like in the book 1984
what I want to see from this AC is actual policy solutions.
the government's job, per the constitution, is partly to use law enforcement & the military. the people have a right for their personal effect to be secure from that *unless* probable cause...etc
virtually everyone would agree that the above statements are accurate and true & reprsents how our system works
digital communications exist. we on /. understand how it all works.
digital communications, such as a routing table, IP address, MAC address, list of SMS's from a certain number, this is ALL personal data, covered by the US citizen's right to privacy
you, AC, and every critic of this policy must either be criticizing the very *existence* of government OR the debate is about when/how not if the government can access your personal data
the debate is about WHEN and HOW...the government has the right to access your personal data with proper warrant
what is proper warrant for the different kinds of digital communication?
THATS THE QUESTION that none of the privacy trolls here on slashdot want to discuss.
everyone wants to pop off fiery bon-mots about how X politician is just as bad as Bush & reference a work of fiction that critiques totalitarian regimes
its bullshit...it hurts our industry & makes our jobs harder
stop bitching and start typing policy solutions
it's fine w/o a citation...everyone, even young adults w/o kids, has seen the effect of public school budget cuts based on artificial scarcity