I don't think the parent was saying that the US was wrong to invade. The term "Prapoganda" is not necessarily negative. Here is the dictionary definition:
"The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause."
Propganda has been used for years and years to spread information in hostile territory. The leaflets mentioned above were to spread our view during times of war to places where the local media was biased and would not present both sides of the story. In short, this kind of propaganda is a good thing.
Not sure I agree with you there. Viruses are hated by all, including MS, MPAA, RIAA, government, etc. However, ISPs are not required even to scan email attachments, let alone break down the packets in real time and try to figure out whether or not the data is "acceptable"
"The MPAA said it would also make available a computer program that sniffs out movie and music files on a user's computer as well as any installed file sharing programs."
I believe this to be an opt-in download and scan. Of course, there is no way in Hell I would run this kind of program willingly. However, as a Systems Admin, it would be nice to have this available to scan my corporate LAN. I am all for file-sharing, but I don't trust users to do so safely and would prefer to protect my servers and avoid lawsuits at work.
Just my opinion.
The think client solution is an excellent way to put off upgrading. A decent thin client will be able to connect to a "current" model server for years and years, given that the basic remote protocols are kept and that the firmware is flashable.
We recently pitched this idea to a company building a new office. Unfortunately, they couldn't see past the initial investment in a decent server.
Beyond not needing to upgrade the client hardware, software upgrades are also only done at a single point. We use a policies, a default profile, and an Office TRANSFORM file on the servers and administration is virtually nill.
When I order a partial T-1 line for a remote location, I get a CONSTANT 1.5 up and down, guaranteed. I also get 6 voice lines with 6 separate numbers through the T-1, and 16 different public IP addresses. Supposedly I get 24 hour support with technicians on-call, but we all know how that works. Plus, there are regulations (at least in California) that prevent us from ordering cable Internet for a business location. Correct me if I am wrong there.
Not replacing them any time soon. Did you see the price range? Close to $600 a month for a 3MB connection. My cable modem is faster than that for $40 a month. This will compete with business T-1 lines, which are slower than cable but some laws and regulations keep cable modems out of businesses. Really disappointing, too, as my company has to spend hundreds a month on each of the T-1's at our remote locations. I know that the T-1 is reliable and steady, but a cable modem would work just fine at the retail locations we run. Sadly, DSL just sucks.
All POP clients I have used have a "leave messeges on server" option. Still, that takes away from the cool Google-Search-Your-Mail interface... unless you install that creepy desktop search.
I have nor moral whatsoever as to downloading videos. I would download if I knew three children starved to death each time.
However, it is too much of a pain. Broken files, security concerns, motion -> audio conflicts, etc. I just shell out the $20 a month for Netflix and let it come to my door. I wonder how the MPAA feels about this sort of service. I've never heard any comments. I'd assume that Netflix would take more money away from them than people downloading crappy video-cam screeners.
But thousands (probably more) of people are using HTTP for each one of us using torrent. The week is takes you to do one gig, your counter-parts are HTTPing enormous amounts of data. Your comparison makes no sense, unless there was one person downloading torrents for every one person surfing the web.
My cable company offers an On-Demand service that included all of the debates. Got to watch it at my leasure on a 57" HDTV with pause and rewind capabilities.
Then I got bored of the Giant Douch and Turd Sandwich and decied to play some French Halo 2 instead (speaking of torrents).
This article seems like a bunch of hype to me. I didn't see any conclusive evidence that this amount of traffic is due to torrent downloads. I wouldn't be surprised if this is some attempt at raising concern from the masses by the (MPAA * RIAA * ETC). Trying to get people worried about losing bandwidth and having their ISPs block torrent downloads...
I'd guess that spam email, web browsing, and streaming media are all biggers players in the bandwidth game than torrents.
That sounds pretty exessive. Even my parents can keep their Windows installation clean and operable for longer than that. I'd say someone who is computer savvy and proactive with the care and maintanance of their machine could go indefinitely, or at least until their hardware fails or needs an upgrade. I install my Windows machines with alternative web browsers, big-company antivirus, and Spybot with Teatimer. I don't install things like free screensavers and smily addons. I never have a problem.
Someone wandering through the office likely has their own password, anyway. Also, anyone wandering through the office with the know-how to cause damage in this regard would be a member of the IT department and could wreck havoc in a much more imaginative way.
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Might be the wrong kaustik. Or, might be a sizzled part of my brain. The name doesn't ring a bell, sorry.
And this would be?
I don't think the parent was saying that the US was wrong to invade. The term "Prapoganda" is not necessarily negative. Here is the dictionary definition:
"The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause."
Propganda has been used for years and years to spread information in hostile territory. The leaflets mentioned above were to spread our view during times of war to places where the local media was biased and would not present both sides of the story. In short, this kind of propaganda is a good thing.
No, if that were the case then virus writers would write malware aimed at these Operating Systems.
I'm thinking that this MPAA thing probably comes with some sort of compliance seal-of-approval.
Not sure I agree with you there. Viruses are hated by all, including MS, MPAA, RIAA, government, etc. However, ISPs are not required even to scan email attachments, let alone break down the packets in real time and try to figure out whether or not the data is "acceptable"
"The MPAA said it would also make available a computer program that sniffs out movie and music files on a user's computer as well as any installed file sharing programs."
I believe this to be an opt-in download and scan. Of course, there is no way in Hell I would run this kind of program willingly. However, as a Systems Admin, it would be nice to have this available to scan my corporate LAN. I am all for file-sharing, but I don't trust users to do so safely and would prefer to protect my servers and avoid lawsuits at work.
Just my opinion.
Did it bum any one else out that the site had no pictures? I'd be interested in seeing something actually made with their kit. Anyone have a link?
Why did you care enough to reply to that person's comment? Don't like it? Don't respond. Why worry about what they do or do not think?
Seriously, though, it is just conversation. Chill out.
The think client solution is an excellent way to put off upgrading. A decent thin client will be able to connect to a "current" model server for years and years, given that the basic remote protocols are kept and that the firmware is flashable.
We recently pitched this idea to a company building a new office. Unfortunately, they couldn't see past the initial investment in a decent server.
Beyond not needing to upgrade the client hardware, software upgrades are also only done at a single point. We use a policies, a default profile, and an Office TRANSFORM file on the servers and administration is virtually nill.
I am psychic as well. You are an out of work techie who can't afford a dedicated 3MB $600 connection to your house.
When I order a partial T-1 line for a remote location, I get a CONSTANT 1.5 up and down, guaranteed. I also get 6 voice lines with 6 separate numbers through the T-1, and 16 different public IP addresses. Supposedly I get 24 hour support with technicians on-call, but we all know how that works. Plus, there are regulations (at least in California) that prevent us from ordering cable Internet for a business location. Correct me if I am wrong there.
Not replacing them any time soon. Did you see the price range? Close to $600 a month for a 3MB connection. My cable modem is faster than that for $40 a month. This will compete with business T-1 lines, which are slower than cable but some laws and regulations keep cable modems out of businesses. Really disappointing, too, as my company has to spend hundreds a month on each of the T-1's at our remote locations. I know that the T-1 is reliable and steady, but a cable modem would work just fine at the retail locations we run. Sadly, DSL just sucks.
All POP clients I have used have a "leave messeges on server" option. Still, that takes away from the cool Google-Search-Your-Mail interface... unless you install that creepy desktop search.
I was thinking that they would add advertisement tags to the end of your outgoing email, such as other providers tend to do.
I have nor moral whatsoever as to downloading videos. I would download if I knew three children starved to death each time.
However, it is too much of a pain. Broken files, security concerns, motion -> audio conflicts, etc. I just shell out the $20 a month for Netflix and let it come to my door. I wonder how the MPAA feels about this sort of service. I've never heard any comments. I'd assume that Netflix would take more money away from them than people downloading crappy video-cam screeners.
But thousands (probably more) of people are using HTTP for each one of us using torrent. The week is takes you to do one gig, your counter-parts are HTTPing enormous amounts of data. Your comparison makes no sense, unless there was one person downloading torrents for every one person surfing the web.
My cable company offers an On-Demand service that included all of the debates. Got to watch it at my leasure on a 57" HDTV with pause and rewind capabilities.
Then I got bored of the Giant Douch and Turd Sandwich and decied to play some French Halo 2 instead (speaking of torrents).
This article seems like a bunch of hype to me. I didn't see any conclusive evidence that this amount of traffic is due to torrent downloads. I wouldn't be surprised if this is some attempt at raising concern from the masses by the (MPAA * RIAA * ETC). Trying to get people worried about losing bandwidth and having their ISPs block torrent downloads...
I'd guess that spam email, web browsing, and streaming media are all biggers players in the bandwidth game than torrents.
Ah, agreed.
I guess that depends on what you mean by "running well". To the majority of users, not being able to surf the web would be "not running at all".
> You can build an application into an OS, but you can't built a service into an OS. You mean like Windows Update?
That sounds pretty exessive. Even my parents can keep their Windows installation clean and operable for longer than that. I'd say someone who is computer savvy and proactive with the care and maintanance of their machine could go indefinitely, or at least until their hardware fails or needs an upgrade. I install my Windows machines with alternative web browsers, big-company antivirus, and Spybot with Teatimer. I don't install things like free screensavers and smily addons. I never have a problem.
Someone wandering through the office likely has their own password, anyway. Also, anyone wandering through the office with the know-how to cause damage in this regard would be a member of the IT department and could wreck havoc in a much more imaginative way.
If you stick with clients like eMule and cool file spoltlighters like ShareReactor there would be no worries.