That depends on how simple you want to keep it. Yes it would be unfair that the gas for the tractor that's never on the road would cost more. Two possible solutions (none of them good and both abuseable) 1. Tax-free gas for those puropses. 2. Calculating tha amount and refunding it to the farmer.
There are no easy solutions, that's why I called the idea less-unfair instead of fair
Oh by the way, if your lawnmower uses so much gas that it matters I suggest you replace it, or perhaps get a smaller lawn:)
Well isn't it fair that the part of the public that uses the roads is the same part that pays for them? Building roads cost money, and I don't think it's fair that people that choose not to use a car should pay for them through their taxes.
OTOH toll booths are an inconvenience and produce jams if they don't have enough capacity. Also building, maintaining and staffing them adds to the cost.
A "less unfair (tm)" way would be to tax gas, that way the amount you pay relates to how much you use the roads. This also removes the privacy issues.
Now if we could make sure that this money gets used for "traffic related expenses" (road building, sponsoring public transportation to keep the roads less crowded for those willing to pay and giving the rest an alternative, road maintainance etc..) we would be set. Unfortunately politicians (where I live) seems to see any tax as just another source of money to use as they see fit instead of for what the tax was ment to pay for
At least we in Norway have reasonably good laws protecting our privacy in these matters.
This gave a funny result: A toll ring where you have an "elictronic pass thing (tm)" had a technical problem so that you could get double charged from your prepaid account for a single pass. But because they were requiered by law to delete the information after a short time there was no way they could check any logs, see who had been double-charged and refund the money
I think they should have let every one pass for free for a while, until at least all the "regulars" would have gotten a few free passes for every time they had been double-charged (statistically)
Seems I wasn't completely clear in my earlier post
When I talked about testing I didn't mean trying out some software. I talked about testing software in developement, which should be done with root privileges only if the result is intended to be run as root
You seem to fit better into the first category (as do I by the way) that "test linux / play around", so by all means run as root. OTOH if you intend to use linux professionally trying to get the system to work for users is a valuable experience.
.........root.......firewall.....
Firewall is nice but it won't help you if you download a fixed program and run it, and if you run it as root that l33t h4z0r will have a very easy time, I'd check my sources at least.
Story: a few people own a lot of fiber. Gates could offer them money for this fiber and then he owns it.
Ok the article (thanks to earlier posters for the correct url, do they ever check their html?) is interesting enough. But to say that buffet investing in telecoms means he will sell it to gates at the first opportunity is a bit of a long shot
Testing what? If you talk about you trying out linux then ok go ahead, but don't complain to me when you rm -rf the wrong place and has to reinstall the os instead of just the user files
On the other hand if you talk about test, as in testing software then you're a fool. Software should be tested running as user, unless it's a tool for root
The two others that I can remember was that it formed at the same time as the earth, or that it came flying past (like a comet) and was 'captured' by the earths gravity
Then isn't it strange that the earth actually has a moon?
Wouldn't the much larger gravitational pull of the Sun drag whatever we put in orbit around the earth (like the moon, or sattelites) (the earth beeing a smaller planetary body than the Sun itself) into the Suns own orbit. Oops. Maybe we should shoot down the moon since it's not supposed to be there?
I usually try to counter my own arguments before posting anything, then it's less likely that I post something that someone will reply to by making me look like a fool. Maybe you should consider doing the same?
I hope that they find a planet with an atmoshpere that indicates life. Watching the media, politicians, religious leaders and mad scientists then would be the show of the milennium.
Less exciting but still good would be the discovery of some planet that's a good candidate for terraforming, if we had the option to leave this solar system - would we? And who would pay?
We really need to clean up earth orbits before we start putting more stuff up there.
How about placing it in orbit around something else then, like the moon. It'll cost more, and be harder to repair, and have 'lag' on communications. But if the earth orbit is that 'polluted' it could be an option
I think a lot of the exitement is in that it's not the goverments that get to decide what books that gets shared, its us. I think slashdot has more than it's fair share of anarchist tendencies
Another thing I like about the idea is that I get to introduce people to the books i read that might not read them otherwise.
And if I found a book I might have a go at it even if it's not what I normally read. Libraries are great to, but I usually end up with the type of book I usually read.
To put one thing staight right away, I don't put the blame for the conflict on the Israel alone. Both sides are about equally resonsible. I merely argued the palestinian side because you seemed to have heard and accepted all the arguments for the other already
You seem to think that after the Oslo agreement pulled out of palestinian areas, this is not the case. They left a few areas they chose alone, in yet other areas they have started israeli settlements, presumedly to have a "right" to that land if there ever is international intervention
Arafat is a known previous terrorist leader snd have made statements he has later withdrawn. Ariel Sharon has made similar statements about getting rid of the palestinian people.
Some palestinians believe that Allah has given them the right to kill for their land. Some Jews believe that God has given them a right to kill for their land
The only major difference is that one side has guns, planes and helicopters. The other side has a lot of people willing to sacrifice themselves for what they believe is right
The two biggest problems to solve the conflict is that it's gone on for so long that there are people on both sides that would rather see their own people continue suffering than to make peace with their enemies
What is needed is economic pressure on israel to find a solution, an non-western non-muslim force to take over the security checks for some time (any buddhist countries with an army?). And a lot of time for the wounds to heal. The Palestinian economy needs a push in the right direction (you're less likely do something stupid if you have something to lose)
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For the close future at least the book will come on some kind of physical media, you can just release that instead (until drm prevents anyone except you from reading it.
Even when that becomes available i lots of people (most people I think) will prefer books on paper. The actual feeling of the book, turning the pages and possibly font/layout/illustrations is all part of the reading experience. Having a book read to me by a machine won't give me as much as reading it myself, and I expect a lot of people feel the same way
Ok, now you can go ahead and call me old fashioned
Wouldn't it be great if we could encourage motels, cafe's and other public places to put up bookshelves for this kind of thing. You could leave your book in a "public bookshelf" and look for other ones there. Maybe a chain of motels / cafes etc would be interested in promoting the idea
Well at least where I'm from books have a title too:). The number is just to identify that particular copy of a book, I don't think the book will be too hurt, after all it gets to meet new people on an exiting journey
The problem is that I want to keep the really good books so that I can read them again. If everybody else does this there'll be only bad books floating around
Hopefully tastes differ enough that someone will love a book that I dont, and it can have a good home. And when I read a great book in paperback I often buy a hardback copy to keep since it'll last longer, I think I'll start releasing those paperbacks. That way I can still reread the books I love, and give someone else the chance to discover them
the US sees a free, liberal democracy under assault by neighboring dictatorships
The rest of the world see an occupying country. My home country (Norway) was occupied during ww2, ther was a lot of resistance, sabotage and stealing from the german forces. And if the nazis had started moving civilians into norway to live there you can bet they would have been targets too.
So it seems the us can support "Terrorism" then, as long as the terrorists have the right ideology
Which cause? The murder of civilians? Genocide against those whose religion is different? The destruction of those whose culture is not yours? These are the causes of the
terrorists attacking us and attacking Israel. Do you really sympathize with these?
No
But i sympathize with their wish to get Israel out of the occupied territories. And wanting to be able to visit their holy places freely. And beeing able to go to work without beeing sent back at roadblocks every other day.
The calls for the destruction of Israel come from people that are blind with hate, and should be dealt with. But every time therehas been a suicide bombing Israel has bombed palestinian police and laid siege on arafats HQ. In the same breath as they cry that palestinian authorities aren't doing anything to stop the suicide bombers they take away their ability to do anything about them.
And when Israel raid palestinian cities they find reason to destroy anything that would be useful i building a free palestine. (Such as school records, not knowing who got an A won't stop terrorists but it will stop peaceful rebuilding)
The main problem is that on both sides there are people that won't benefit from peace. (Isreali generals and Hizbollah leaders will all lose power if there is peace)
Since you can't run a client (yet) without windows they can safely assume that most people that will be running servers right now will have access to a windows machine. They could probably make a program/script to extract the files from the CD, but if that takes time then I believe they have done the right thing. Once a linux client is available they should have an installer for the client and the server that doesn't require windows though, but right now this solution is better than making people wait longer for the server
I assume you are simplly a troll. But since someone might take you seriously I'll answer anyway to counter the FUD
Windows as an OS is designed to make things easy for the user, linux is not. Linux is about giving you power and control of your system. With power and control comes resposibility, you have to know what you are doing first
So I called a friend who knows a small amount about Linux
You should have had your friend visit you and help you with the installation. It's always a good idea to have someone help you the first time you try something completely new. I bet it wasn't completely problem free the first time you installed windows
He told me that I
would have to manually modify the MBR and also re-sys the Windows Disk.
After 2 hours of coarse language, digging the bios of the machine and going
over the disks with scandisk and fdisk, I finally got Windows 98 up again
If you had any idea about what you were doing that shouldn't have taken more than about 10 minutes. Again if you don't have a clue about how to restore a windows installation you shouldn't have attempted to install linux next to it.
Before this, I was a neutral in the Linux vs. Microsoft debate. Now I am
100% pro-microsoft and dead-set against Linux
So using the same argument: Since I'm not good enough a driver to drive a Formula 1 race car that must mean F1 cars suck?
I doubt that I will ever
touch it again with a 10 meter barge pole!
Well if you usead a 10 meter barge pole this time it might explain some of your problems:)
Grammar aside, that's probably a good idea, until you learn a little more about how computers work you should stick to windows, at least if it suits your needs. If you ever try again I recommend having a friend (that knows linux) help you set it up the first time, you might also consider buying a book since tutorials often isn't quite enough, and the howtos tend to assume you already know a great deal about linux
The problem is that what the US thinks is right (for themselves) isn't alway what is right. And the us should start listening a little to the opinions of other countries that they share this planet with
There are lots of other countries that do what they believe is right without beeing the target of terrorists
USA have a foreign policy where they've interfered in just about every conflict. Standard practice is: choose one side help them as long as it fits US policy, then when it don't you cut all support and let them rot. End result: both sides hate the US. (afaik this is how Osama bin Laden became the monster he is)
US foreign policy has been based on the bully in class principle: "We're big, noone can touch us, we do whatever we feel like, it doesn't matter if they hate us because they can't do anything".
I don't know how it's portrayed in the US news, but here in the current conflict Israel is definitively portrayed as the bad guy, and in the background is the US supplying with everything they need to keep opressing the palestinians
I do not sympathize with the methods of any terrorists, but there are times I can sympathize with their cause
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That depends on how simple you want to keep it. Yes it would be unfair that the gas for the tractor that's never on the road would cost more. Two possible solutions (none of them good and both abuseable) 1. Tax-free gas for those puropses. 2. Calculating tha amount and refunding it to the farmer.
There are no easy solutions, that's why I called the idea less-unfair instead of fair
Oh by the way, if your lawnmower uses so much gas that it matters I suggest you replace it, or perhaps get a smaller lawn :)
They're public lands! Public!
Well isn't it fair that the part of the public that uses the roads is the same part that pays for them? Building roads cost money, and I don't think it's fair that people that choose not to use a car should pay for them through their taxes.
OTOH toll booths are an inconvenience and produce jams if they don't have enough capacity. Also building, maintaining and staffing them adds to the cost.
A "less unfair (tm)" way would be to tax gas, that way the amount you pay relates to how much you use the roads. This also removes the privacy issues.
Now if we could make sure that this money gets used for "traffic related expenses" (road building, sponsoring public transportation to keep the roads less crowded for those willing to pay and giving the rest an alternative, road maintainance etc..) we would be set. Unfortunately politicians (where I live) seems to see any tax as just another source of money to use as they see fit instead of for what the tax was ment to pay forAt least we in Norway have reasonably good laws protecting our privacy in these matters.
This gave a funny result: A toll ring where you have an "elictronic pass thing (tm)" had a technical problem so that you could get double charged from your prepaid account for a single pass. But because they were requiered by law to delete the information after a short time there was no way they could check any logs, see who had been double-charged and refund the money
I think they should have let every one pass for free for a while, until at least all the "regulars" would have gotten a few free passes for every time they had been double-charged (statistically)
Seems I wasn't completely clear in my earlier post
When I talked about testing I didn't mean trying out some software. I talked about testing software in developement, which should be done with root privileges only if the result is intended to be run as root
You seem to fit better into the first category (as do I by the way) that "test linux / play around", so by all means run as root. OTOH if you intend to use linux professionally trying to get the system to work for users is a valuable experience.
Firewall is nice but it won't help you if you download a fixed program and run it, and if you run it as root that l33t h4z0r will have a very easy time, I'd check my sources at least.
Story: a few people own a lot of fiber. Gates could offer them money for this fiber and then he owns it.
Ok the article (thanks to earlier posters for the correct url, do they ever check their html?) is interesting enough. But to say that buffet investing in telecoms means he will sell it to gates at the first opportunity is a bit of a long shot
I used to have a cool sig but people replied to it more than they did my comments.
Can I have your old .sig please?
At home, on a single user test machine
Testing what? If you talk about you trying out linux then ok go ahead, but don't complain to me when you rm -rf the wrong place and has to reinstall the os instead of just the user files
On the other hand if you talk about test, as in testing software then you're a fool. Software should be tested running as user, unless it's a tool for root
That's one of the theories anyway
The two others that I can remember was that it formed at the same time as the earth, or that it came flying past (like a comet) and was 'captured' by the earths gravity
I don't know what is the 'accepted' theory though
A nearby star system in proximity of Alpha Centauri
Then isn't it strange that the earth actually has a moon?
Wouldn't the much larger gravitational pull of the Sun drag whatever we put in orbit around the earth (like the moon, or sattelites) (the earth beeing a smaller planetary body than the Sun itself) into the Suns own orbit. Oops. Maybe we should shoot down the moon since it's not supposed to be there?
I usually try to counter my own arguments before posting anything, then it's less likely that I post something that someone will reply to by making me look like a fool. Maybe you should consider doing the same?
determine the atmospheric composition
I hope that they find a planet with an atmoshpere that indicates life. Watching the media, politicians, religious leaders and mad scientists then would be the show of the milennium.
Less exciting but still good would be the discovery of some planet that's a good candidate for terraforming, if we had the option to leave this solar system - would we? And who would pay?
We really need to clean up earth orbits before we start putting more stuff up there.
How about placing it in orbit around something else then, like the moon. It'll cost more, and be harder to repair, and have 'lag' on communications. But if the earth orbit is that 'polluted' it could be an option
I just love this little pearl from the manual on the site:
This tutorial assumes that your name is "Jack."1
And then as a footnote at the bottom of the page
1. If your name isn't Jack, and you don't know your name, contact your local administrator for support.
The boldness is mine, the italics is theirs
I think a lot of the exitement is in that it's not the goverments that get to decide what books that gets shared, its us. I think slashdot has more than it's fair share of anarchist tendencies
Another thing I like about the idea is that I get to introduce people to the books i read that might not read them otherwise.
And if I found a book I might have a go at it even if it's not what I normally read. Libraries are great to, but I usually end up with the type of book I usually read.
To put one thing staight right away, I don't put the blame for the conflict on the Israel alone. Both sides are about equally resonsible. I merely argued the palestinian side because you seemed to have heard and accepted all the arguments for the other already
You seem to think that after the Oslo agreement pulled out of palestinian areas, this is not the case. They left a few areas they chose alone, in yet other areas they have started israeli settlements, presumedly to have a "right" to that land if there ever is international intervention
Arafat is a known previous terrorist leader snd have made statements he has later withdrawn. Ariel Sharon has made similar statements about getting rid of the palestinian people.
Palestinian terrorists kill israeli civilians, Israel's soldiers kill palestinian civilians
Some palestinians believe that Allah has given them the right to kill for their land. Some Jews believe that God has given them a right to kill for their land
The only major difference is that one side has guns, planes and helicopters. The other side has a lot of people willing to sacrifice themselves for what they believe is right
The two biggest problems to solve the conflict is that it's gone on for so long that there are people on both sides that would rather see their own people continue suffering than to make peace with their enemies
What is needed is economic pressure on israel to find a solution, an non-western non-muslim force to take over the security checks for some time (any buddhist countries with an army?). And a lot of time for the wounds to heal. The Palestinian economy needs a push in the right direction (you're less likely do something stupid if you have something to lose)
For the close future at least the book will come on some kind of physical media, you can just release that instead (until drm prevents anyone except you from reading it.
Even when that becomes available i lots of people (most people I think) will prefer books on paper. The actual feeling of the book, turning the pages and possibly font/layout/illustrations is all part of the reading experience. Having a book read to me by a machine won't give me as much as reading it myself, and I expect a lot of people feel the same way
Ok, now you can go ahead and call me old fashioned
Wouldn't it be great if we could encourage motels, cafe's and other public places to put up bookshelves for this kind of thing. You could leave your book in a "public bookshelf" and look for other ones there. Maybe a chain of motels / cafes etc would be interested in promoting the idea
Well at least where I'm from books have a title too :). The number is just to identify that particular copy of a book, I don't think the book will be too hurt, after all it gets to meet new people on an exiting journey
The problem is that I want to keep the really good books so that I can read them again. If everybody else does this there'll be only bad books floating around
Hopefully tastes differ enough that someone will love a book that I dont, and it can have a good home. And when I read a great book in paperback I often buy a hardback copy to keep since it'll last longer, I think I'll start releasing those paperbacks. That way I can still reread the books I love, and give someone else the chance to discover them
Buisines plan without "???":
Read slashdot, wait for sites to get slashdotted
Offer bandwith to slashdotted sites
Profit
the US sees a free, liberal democracy under assault by neighboring dictatorships
The rest of the world see an occupying country. My home country (Norway) was occupied during ww2, ther was a lot of resistance, sabotage and stealing from the german forces. And if the nazis had started moving civilians into norway to live there you can bet they would have been targets too.
So it seems the us can support "Terrorism" then, as long as the terrorists have the right ideology
Which cause? The murder of civilians? Genocide against those whose religion is different? The destruction of those whose culture is not yours? These are the causes of the terrorists attacking us and attacking Israel. Do you really sympathize with these?
No
But i sympathize with their wish to get Israel out of the occupied territories. And wanting to be able to visit their holy places freely. And beeing able to go to work without beeing sent back at roadblocks every other day. The calls for the destruction of Israel come from people that are blind with hate, and should be dealt with. But every time therehas been a suicide bombing Israel has bombed palestinian police and laid siege on arafats HQ. In the same breath as they cry that palestinian authorities aren't doing anything to stop the suicide bombers they take away their ability to do anything about them.
And when Israel raid palestinian cities they find reason to destroy anything that would be useful i building a free palestine. (Such as school records, not knowing who got an A won't stop terrorists but it will stop peaceful rebuilding)
The main problem is that on both sides there are people that won't benefit from peace. (Isreali generals and Hizbollah leaders will all lose power if there is peace)
If you steal something that the owner isn't using it's still theft
Since you can't run a client (yet) without windows they can safely assume that most people that will be running servers right now will have access to a windows machine. They could probably make a program/script to extract the files from the CD, but if that takes time then I believe they have done the right thing. Once a linux client is available they should have an installer for the client and the server that doesn't require windows though, but right now this solution is better than making people wait longer for the server
I assume you are simplly a troll. But since someone might take you seriously I'll answer anyway to counter the FUD
Windows as an OS is designed to make things easy for the user, linux is not. Linux is about giving you power and control of your system. With power and control comes resposibility, you have to know what you are doing first
So I called a friend who knows a small amount about Linux
You should have had your friend visit you and help you with the installation. It's always a good idea to have someone help you the first time you try something completely new. I bet it wasn't completely problem free the first time you installed windows
He told me that I would have to manually modify the MBR and also re-sys the Windows Disk. After 2 hours of coarse language, digging the bios of the machine and going over the disks with scandisk and fdisk, I finally got Windows 98 up again
If you had any idea about what you were doing that shouldn't have taken more than about 10 minutes. Again if you don't have a clue about how to restore a windows installation you shouldn't have attempted to install linux next to it.
Before this, I was a neutral in the Linux vs. Microsoft debate. Now I am 100% pro-microsoft and dead-set against Linux
So using the same argument: Since I'm not good enough a driver to drive a Formula 1 race car that must mean F1 cars suck?
I doubt that I will ever touch it again with a 10 meter barge pole!
Well if you usead a 10 meter barge pole this time it might explain some of your problems :)
Grammar aside, that's probably a good idea, until you learn a little more about how computers work you should stick to windows, at least if it suits your needs. If you ever try again I recommend having a friend (that knows linux) help you set it up the first time, you might also consider buying a book since tutorials often isn't quite enough, and the howtos tend to assume you already know a great deal about linux
No
The problem is that what the US thinks is right (for themselves) isn't alway what is right. And the us should start listening a little to the opinions of other countries that they share this planet with
There are lots of other countries that do what they believe is right without beeing the target of terrorists
USA have a foreign policy where they've interfered in just about every conflict. Standard practice is: choose one side help them as long as it fits US policy, then when it don't you cut all support and let them rot. End result: both sides hate the US. (afaik this is how Osama bin Laden became the monster he is)
US foreign policy has been based on the bully in class principle: "We're big, noone can touch us, we do whatever we feel like, it doesn't matter if they hate us because they can't do anything".
I don't know how it's portrayed in the US news, but here in the current conflict Israel is definitively portrayed as the bad guy, and in the background is the US supplying with everything they need to keep opressing the palestinians
I do not sympathize with the methods of any terrorists, but there are times I can sympathize with their cause
Can I have some smartarse points now?
Probably
But maybe we could blame them for everyone that's died in wars over Christianity