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donkeyDevil writes "Forget free software, contribute to free books! The Chronicle has an interesting story about bookcrossing.com's effort to track feral books through their captors. Read about it, then do it.
(Although the focus of the story is on Bay Arean book releasors, it looks like you'd have a better chance of snagging a free book here.)"
So is that a Freudian penis... er slip... or what?
Have you been stalked by Seth today?
Apart from being one of the stupidest analogies I've heard in a long time, I must wonder about the thought processes behind this 'Book Tracking'.
Is the intent to maintain a database containing lists of readers of 'dubious material'? Do you REALLY want your reading habits logged and monitored. If this was a government project, people will be screaming out loud regarding their rights to read "Catcher in the Rye" without getting a knock on the door at 4am from various TLA organisations.
Why is this any different?
"Why did they cancel my favorite Sci-Fi show? I downloaded ALL the episodes!"
... has been going on for a long time making out-of-copyright works available to the public.
Here you have it: Project Guttenberg
I wonder if anyone has thought to do the same with CDs :)
How long before this is hijacked by publishers to promote novels in a fake "grass roots" caompaign? Maybe they'd just release a teaser version missing the last 10 pages or something.
I thought about some how starting sumthing like this while traveling abroad, I would stop at many hostels and read whatever books were laying around or swap one i had for one there. I always wondered how far certain books had gone or where they had come from.
;)
But on another note.. tagging the book's with ID's!! thats horrible! don't the books have a right to not just be a #!!! maybe they wanna have words identify themselves
Trolls have sunk to whole new level when they start using the mouse over event to trigger the browser to open a new window pointing to goatse.
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When I read the article, I thought "this is a great idea, but I bet it's only happening in big cities in the USA." Then I saw that some guy has "released" four books in Stevenage, Herts, England, not twenty miles from me. Hurrah!
But you don't have to go outside to find free books. Check the link in my sig for one.
Just another wannabe fantasy novelist...
The problem is that I want to keep the really good books so that I can read them again. If everybody else does this there'll be only bad books floating around
Hopefully tastes differ enough that someone will love a book that I dont, and it can have a good home. And when I read a great book in paperback I often buy a hardback copy to keep since it'll last longer, I think I'll start releasing those paperbacks. That way I can still reread the books I love, and give someone else the chance to discover them
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Generally speaking that is, there is always exceptions to the rule. Last time we checked the market out the vast majority of open source programmers and companies had no income of significance. Is this still the case or has there been any positive news yet? (excluding companies just selling other peoples work like redhat).
:)
I just wanna know if it's a market that we would be interrested in or not. We certainly isn't interrested in beeing free labour for redhat.
I had to look and see what's in my area, and I'll admit, there is an impulse to walk the short walk to the "Donkey Xote" statue and see if George Stephanopolous' book is there, even though I have no desire to read it. Then I looked at how many books were left on metro, at park benches, etc., and I started to wonder how many books are going to end up being found versus thrown away. I suppose there are more than a few heathens out there who throw their books away already, and there are probably books that don't deserve the paper their printed on. But, it is vaguely depressing to think of a bunch of books getting thrown out. On the other hand, it is pretty harmless fun, so why get all curmudgeonly about it?
This seems to just be Where's George for books.
Neat idea though. Now, if they could combine GeoCaching with this I think we'd have something: exercise, travel, and good literature!
In Soviet Russia...michael would be rotting in Siberia!
Disable popup windows in your browser. I can't imagine a good use for them, anyways.
Think about it. Buy a chart CD and then register it on a site and release it. Persuade people to listen to it and then pass it on (Remember kids, copying is bad).
Everyone can then listen to the latest CDs without having to buy them first.
Then sit back and wait to see how long it will be before the RIAA makes giving away your personal property illegal.
I've read about this idea before, and while it sounds really cool and interesting, I have to say I'm concerned about privacy.
Imagine that the site worked exactly as it does now, but instead of giving books away, people just sell them. And instead of the recipient logging the event at the web site, the seller does so (perhaps for a small monetary reward). All of a sudden, the same privacy concerns raised by the use of buyers' cards and online merchants' "accounts" features, are in effect in the used book world.
That would be a very transparent grab at privacy, but since the people running this site have nothing to gain from the actual selling price of a book, they hit upon the idea of having people just give books away. But make no mistake, the threat to privacy is still very great.
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A quick search for "iain m banks" - one of my favo(u)rite authors - gives "look to winward". I know that they've written more than this book and that is not what it is called.
I also entered some dodgy info myself, maybe there is no review process?
People look for books in the library not on park benches and in seat backs.
:-)
Talk to the folks at your local Libary and give your books to them. I might be missing something but I think there would be better results working with your local libraries.
Then again, maybe not.
Keep the Classic Slashdot.
The most popular subjects there are "Science, Math and Computing" with 289 titles. There are quite a few other subjects covered there too.
The Assayer is more than just a list of books though - it has reader-contributed reviews. For example, here is the entry for DocBook: The Definitive Guide by Norman Walsh (available at www.docbook.org). There is a review at the bottom of the entry page.
I'm writing a Free book, although it is at a very early draft stage. The ZooLib Cookbook is a tutorial for the ZooLib cross-platform application framework.
I'm also slowly creating a copylefted collection of articles on software quality at the Linux Quality Database.
-- Could you use my software consulting serv
I can see who has all my Douglas Adams Hitch Hikers Guide
This is a great idea, but I couldn't find a request page for someone to leave some of the books on my reading list somewhere near my home
Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
Charlottesville VA where I live has one of the highest per capita consentration of book stores on the planet we also have three libraries in town all of which have a 'take one leave one' shelf area and there is the university system of libraries as well. There is also a book repository at our recycling center. All the options you could ever want for spreading the word
Sharing books a threat to privacy?
Ideology is fine and good,but when it starts seeing threats in every innocuous thing it crosses the line to paranoia.
It's not like the books have little GPS receivers and glom onto unsuspecting and unwilling people to transmit their reading habits to big brother. It's just a way for people to say "thank you" to a the chain of kind-hearted souls who released and rereleased the books before them, by making the good results of their actions visible.
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Check out the Book Thing of Baltimore if you're around Charm City some weekend. Russell just gives away books. You show up to the "free book place" and take as many as you want. The minimum is ten (he really won't let you leave) and the maximum is 150,000 books per person per day. Corner of 27th & N Charles St, look for the Free Books signs. Open Saturday & Sunday 9 AM - 6 PM.
This isn't an ad, but honestly a post from someone who knows & loves books -- especially those at the Book Thing. I was turned on by a friend, and I've introduced my friends and so on. Probably 95% of the books I've gotten in the past two years were from the Book Thing.
No really, they're free
Various Metra (city train) stops in the Chicagoland area have free (beer) books available ... paperbacks, mostly romance crap, but every once in a while a particularly interesting sci-fi novel sneaks in.
... gratis reading material for those who forgot their paper.
The books are generally donated by the local library and would likely have been thrown out otherwise, but it is still a start
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It's surprising just how long books can stay in circulation.
20 odd years ago I sold a large part of my Moorcock "Eternal Champion" Series to a local 2nd handbook dealer. Last year my son discovers those I hadn't flogged of and decides he likes them enough to pursue the series.
He sets off for the 2nd hand bookstores in the next suburb and turns up several of the originals I sold - my name in the cover removes all doubt.
Approximately 20 years in circulation, all within a couple of suburbs radius. The original bookshop has long gone - (Cory & Collins in Melb, Aust., they were good for Sci-Fi)
So draw your own conclusions but I still find it amazing, believable only because it was first hand experience.
I've often bought inexpensive books from the remainder bin before or during a trip. I've lost books that I really want to keep, and generally want something entertaining to offset work, so this works well.
On the way home I usually give the volume away or just leave it. It might be interesting to see who finds the books I just leave, and this'd be a great way to keep in contact with folks -- like the lovely young lady that I shared a seat with recently. A great flight, had a wonderful time, and we traded SF volumes as we got off in Philly.
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." --Napoleon Bonaparte
Completely false. Show me a link other than /.
You just did. Now go do it.
Somebody confused him with Rosemary Clooney. They do have a strong resemblance.
If Slashdot were chemistry it would look like this:Cadaverine
The originals (All five, either 1st or 2nd print run editions), the "new" covers where all four fit together (Plus another copy of Mostly Harmless to make up the set), and the latest edition is the boxset of Commorative Edition five, with the original covers back on them, but "aged" with Photoshop and white spins on them.
;)
Also got the 3 comic books
Isn't it funny that in an article about books, you prove that it doesn't even take a half a dozen sentences to go beyond your comprehension abilities?
When will you understand? The point was, if people do this, the RIAA might change there EULAs to something like software EULAs. Do you really think it impossible? You must not live in the same country I do (Hint: RIAA).
Not only that, but you can also get free cd's, video's, training and other good stuff.
I'm so relieved that those modern folks in california have invented something so wonderfully original that nobody has even come up with anything remotely related to this concept. Just like the way they invented sex.
This site is similar in spirit, run by one man: www.booklend.net
For those who enjoy this kind of thing, there's also the Where's George site that let's you track where your money goes.
Allright about contributing to free books. But forgive me I won't forget free software ;-)
Whoever modded the parent post down as "troll" needs to be smacked. It's not even "off topic." "Irrelevant", perhaps. Hmm. Note to self: Must Meta Moderate more often.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." Col. Jeff Cooper
Jesus, watching the display of jaundiced and paranoiac viewpoints in this thread is enough to make me want to never read this forum again.
This isn't a damn privacy rights thing. Nor is it about how people should be donating these books to libraries, or whether they should or shouldn't be tracking them, or if some publisher is going to game the system for nefarious means. It's just harmless fun -- an all-volunteer effort by a group of people who love to read.
I mean, kick ass. Buona sera. I love it. More power to them. Can't some of you just revel in one of the wonders of the 'net without reaching for your tinfoil hats? Can't you just stop being critical asses long enough to see something that's really, truly good? Are you all that cynical?
Maybe I should drop a copy of The Power of Positive Thinking in a comic book store somewhere and try to help one of you.
The only tool you've got against psychosis is experience.
Boy, those greedy Authors Guild bastards are going to love this one. Just imagine a whole world of people reading used books...... And not paying for them!!
I wonder how long it will be before these bookcrossing people are accused of piracy for their philanthropy...
It is also interesting to note that the greedy people in this case have a .org URL, while the philanthropists have a .com URL.
All data is speech. All speech is Free.
While we're waiting for Bookcrossing to share CDs and DVDs, you can already donate and borrow movies and music by the carload from your library. I donate every manga and anime I buy to the library.
This article reminded me of something my buddies and I have been doing for some time.. We will buy a book (normally a "subversive" of thought-provoking one) and paste a piece of paper inside which reads something like "This book has been given to you as a gift, but you can't keep it. When you finish reading it, you must give it away to somebody else so information can keep flowing". Then we give the book to someone, or leave it at a public place. Thus we don't infringe any laws, because giving away your own purchased stuff as a gift is perfectly legal, and many people can benefit from a single book. Besides, we find it quite inspiring.. ;)
It had BookCrossing's "I am not lost! Free pre-read book" sticker -- complete with the logo of a book trotting across a street -- detailing what to do to register the book online. - The Article
Hey, this sucks. Now if I accidentally leave my book someplace (I do that quite a bit) it will be nigh impossible to get back since the sticker invites people to take it!
Well, at least I might be able to find out who took it, but can I convince them to give it back because I haven't finished with it?
:-)
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i'm addicted now
I am surprised this works - at least in the uk. I have to my unending dismay occasionally left a book in a public place (wall near a bus stop, phone booth, that sort of thing - places you put something down to use your hands and forget to pick it up again) and have seldom returned to find it either there or "just gone". almost invariably, it has been ripped apart and the pages strewn over a wide area (I must assume by kids; I am sure at least some of them would be dismayed to find they could have gotten upwards of 20ukp for one of them in any decent bookshop)
if this was some sort of geocaching (put somewhere where it would be awkward to discover without explicit finding instructions) then I can see it working, but not where kids could find it.
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NPR did this story almost two months ago on it's "Weekend Edition Saturday" show. They've set up a web page with expanded coverage, and the site also includes the audio from the broadcast Real Audio Format.
Abby Hoffman's _Steal This Book_.
Heck, can you find a copy of this book _anywhrere_?
Geoff
I think I see a trend here. Maybe for them it really would be easier to muzzle the entire internet than to produce p
On a related note to this story, I compiled a list of free technical books from a slashdot thread a few weeks ago:
http://www.bath.ac.uk/~cs1spw/blog/archive/2002/06 / 9/#freeBooks
How about these?
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