I have a feeling that people, including you, unjustifiably get too impatient and upset with what Red Hat is trying to achieve.
Red Hat has historically been pioneering distro in many aspects. They have most of the time provided great ballance between the usable desktop and stable, full featured server. In last few years, great automated support for Red Hat systems as well.
Times have changed though. Like it or not, everything about Red Hat has to be looked at through different prism. They are very successful corporation, with positive cashflow, dramatically increased quarter to quarter profits, big cash reserves and a stock value increase of > 300% in year and a half. You don't muck around with all that after trying hard for more than 10 years. There are also obligations to shareholders and some of the toughest customers around.
Still, they are trying their best to stay loyal to the community (because they are not forgetting how did they come by at first place). They've given us arguably the best Linux distribution there ever was (FC 1), with even better one to follow in few weeks. They will use it for the paid-for product but that's how it is in OSS world. You and I are free to do the same. Sure, there are teething problems with building additional support infrastructure but they will be overcome soon.
If this is not good enough for you, move to Debian but give Red Hat a credit for all good things they've done. 'Thank you, Red Hat' would be more appropriate farewell than your rant.
Bullshit. How the fuck is clicking icons in KDE or Gnome different to doing this on a Windows machine? Dumb people will have as much difficulty using Linux desktop (say FC1) as they do using Windows.
I am really sick of stupid stuff like this. Stop spreading FUD - Linux desktop WORKS AND IS EASY TO USE!!!
Man, after reading a thread thus far, I can tell you that I got pretty frustrated with US taxes. And I live in New Zealand. It's easy here - salaried workers like me do not even have to file income tax anymore. If I ever move to States, first thing I'm going to do will be to make buddies with a fucking accountant.
Those were first few Google returned links. I have no idea where to find info like this since I hate Windows, Microsoft and people who try to defend them no matter what. I will never use any of their products again, so I'll never need this information.
You are in denial. Admitting that MS and their software suck is the way of dealing with issues. Try, it does not hurt.
There is a real security problem on the Internet, one that is making a joke of the "information highway", and it's almost entirely caused by vulnerabilities like the one reported here.
I'd argue this one. Vulnerabilities are only result of more than a decade of totally iresponsible behaviour of Microsoft. More $$$, no matter what. That's the real cause.
Maybe. But wait till someone mods a badger with extra fans, neon and water coolers! It will be like a live badger - nobody would be able to tell the difference.
Nah, they're fine. Sound's reoccuring every 4 months. Replacement crew (according to the article) is due to board ISS in next two and a half weeks though. They'd be scared shitless, I reckon.
Those who did not confess must have died, I am sure.
Back in school few of us used to play cards (game didn't really matter), so that whoever loses has to drink a liter of tap water in two minutes. Man, you'd never want to lose two straight games.
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That's what engineers used to stay up all night.
Red Hat has historically been pioneering distro in many aspects. They have most of the time provided great ballance between the usable desktop and stable, full featured server. In last few years, great automated support for Red Hat systems as well.
Times have changed though. Like it or not, everything about Red Hat has to be looked at through different prism. They are very successful corporation, with positive cashflow, dramatically increased quarter to quarter profits, big cash reserves and a stock value increase of > 300% in year and a half. You don't muck around with all that after trying hard for more than 10 years. There are also obligations to shareholders and some of the toughest customers around.
Still, they are trying their best to stay loyal to the community (because they are not forgetting how did they come by at first place). They've given us arguably the best Linux distribution there ever was (FC 1), with even better one to follow in few weeks. They will use it for the paid-for product but that's how it is in OSS world. You and I are free to do the same. Sure, there are teething problems with building additional support infrastructure but they will be overcome soon.
If this is not good enough for you, move to Debian but give Red Hat a credit for all good things they've done. 'Thank you, Red Hat' would be more appropriate farewell than your rant.
You new around here?
How's this any different to Ballmer's one?
I don't think we need great Spanish language knowledge to figure this one out.
Fuckwit.
apt on FC1 works great. Apart from Fedora's repository, I also use couple of others:
# rpm.livna.org repositories
rpm http://rpm.livna.org/ fedora/1/i386 stable unstable testing
rpm-src http://rpm.livna.org/ fedora/1/i386 stable unstable testing
# dag's repository
rpm http://apt.sw.be redhat/fc1/en/i386 dag
Added bonus is always Synaptic - it's great to show to new Linux users how easy is it to install/update software.
Man, reading at -1, this is actually the first post close to the topic. Unlike others above, it even mentions Linux.
I am really sick of stupid stuff like this. Stop spreading FUD - Linux desktop WORKS AND IS EASY TO USE!!!
Man, after reading a thread thus far, I can tell you that I got pretty frustrated with US taxes. And I live in New Zealand. It's easy here - salaried workers like me do not even have to file income tax anymore. If I ever move to States, first thing I'm going to do will be to make buddies with a fucking accountant.
You are in denial. Admitting that MS and their software suck is the way of dealing with issues. Try, it does not hurt.
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Perhaps this summary would do, you tools.
But who cares, I don't need this crap, I use better OS.
I'd argue this one. Vulnerabilities are only result of more than a decade of totally iresponsible behaviour of Microsoft. More $$$, no matter what. That's the real cause.
Thanks but no, thanks. Their official SP_s are known to break plenty of stuff. Why would anybody want to muck around with RC ones?
Maybe. But wait till someone mods a badger with extra fans, neon and water coolers! It will be like a live badger - nobody would be able to tell the difference.
That's probably correct. I reckon we'll need couple of days to logon in significant numbers, to make it cool site.
Nah, they're fine. Sound's reoccuring every 4 months. Replacement crew (according to the article) is due to board ISS in next two and a half weeks though. They'd be scared shitless, I reckon.
Back in school few of us used to play cards (game didn't really matter), so that whoever loses has to drink a liter of tap water in two minutes. Man, you'd never want to lose two straight games.
Did you really ask this question, after few years spent on /. ? What do you think comes on 5 SuSE or 4-5 RH CDs?
There are few available around, free (beer/speech). My favorite is Fedora Core 1 (2 coming out soon).
Here, extrants on now.
You've missed an important feature - when pressed, key brings up clippy and all you ever wanted to know about BIO$ settings is at your fingertips.
I read that 'penisless' in which case future tense would be wrong - Darl & Co. already are.
Plenty! Evolution, Kmail, Mozilla (and variants), choice is yours. Move to Linux, that's by far the safest solution.
You be careful with your remarks, young man.