I would also like to see an example of ONE internationally governed project (sanctioned by UN or UN appointed commission/body/whatever) that worked out well and reasonably fast.
Internet is free for anyone to use. Everybody is also entitled to implement alternative infrastructure and use those tubes as they are pleased.
I feel that I need to point out that I am not an American.
So she "helps" someone to promote her work for free, enabling her to add a few more bucks to the mountain of money she already has. But if whoever wants to earn something in return for their work, that's a no-no.
...I sure as hell don't want it on any of my servers (or even any of my users' workstations).
That actually depends on what is the server used for. I have some fc5 and fc6 servers on various LANs. They are very stable, run number of network services but are not directly connected to Internet, so I don't need to worry about pulling updates that might break stuff or security holes.
I also maintain about 200 FC5 workstations. They are behind 2 firewalls and authenticated squid and that seems enough, from the security point of view. Those run some complicated VMware shit, for which updates would almost certainly cause partial re-write of a number of very long, badly documented perl and shell scripts. Stuff is outdated but fits the purpose and runs like charm.
Generally, I agree with you though - much safer option for people who can't afford RHEL is CentOS.
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On Fedora 8, vlc (livna rpm) works with Pulseaudio - I was just trying DVD + mp3 in a music player, all goes fine.
RHEL 5.1 (if you mean this as one of two related distros) is a RHEL 5 re-packed to include all bug/security fixes to date, so if you need to do a new install, there's no need to pull hundreds of updates from RHN.
Fedora 8 isn't related too much to RHEL (RHEL 5 was built on Fedora Core 6). I use only Fedora and Red Hat and I'm probably biased. However, F8 includes some neat stuff that warrants checking up by Linux users in general. It works great, too.
Do read that wikipedia link. I'm sure you'll find that Red Cross flag was made as an opposite to Swiss flag to honor Henry Dunant, Red Cross founder. If anything, Switzerland could sue Red Cross.
You are so wrong on so many points that it would take too much time to reply to all of them.
Anyway, I think I should start advertising my services of providing Fedora re-spins - any purpose, shape, size, colour. Plays quicktime and wm, too (no sex with Ballmer required).
But what are they going to distribute once really important pieces all become GPLv3 licensed, like samba is already. Don't tell me that Novell and Linspire are able to maintain GPLv2 fork of everything.
Clued-in people won't even bother looking at obscure distros for any business deployments. Clueless ones will have lots of trouble even finding them.
Another side of the whole argument - how many of 295 mentioned distributions (I excluded RH/fedora, debian/ubuntu, SuSE, Mandrake and Gentoo) are all-purpose systems? We need to exclude embedded ones and strictly specialised distros (like, say IPCop firewall), etc.
Having choice is always good thing. Using 'too much choice' with negative connotation has been translated long time ago. It's called FUD.
The choice only applies if you're talking about individuals. For businesses with hundreds and thousands of computers it is too late. Due to very dishonest way of establishing de facto monopoly, MS has locked in millions into vicious upgrade cycle. Other software vendors for years released only Windows applications. When your business is decent size and depends on VB code, Autodesk CAD, even fucking Exchange - you can't switch anymore, it's prohibitively expensive.
How many of them are in the position to have monopoly in a PC market? Yeah, zero so we can just ignore bustards. Hard to ignore Gates though. The reason to hate him is that he hasn't achieved that position ethically in the first place, let alone active exploatation of it and destruction of any remotely dangerous competition. Bill Gates is a bad person.
I am amused every time I see someone showing utter ignorance of the basic GPL premise after lurking around slashdot for, according to slashdot ID, at least five years. You had plenty of time to learn four simple lines of the free software definition but you chose to spread FUD instead.
GPL is the only license that equaly protects freedom of software producers who opted to show their code and users of that software.
The article, however, is not about that. It is about defectiveness of the iPhone by way of using policy driven DRM which restricts FREEDOM of people who purchased device and media to use the same device and same media as they are pleased.
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I would also like to see an example of ONE internationally governed project (sanctioned by UN or UN appointed commission/body/whatever) that worked out well and reasonably fast.
Internet is free for anyone to use. Everybody is also entitled to implement alternative infrastructure and use those tubes as they are pleased.
I feel that I need to point out that I am not an American.
You appear noble and at the end of the financial year you get better brake from revenue department.
...which is also tax deductible.
So she "helps" someone to promote her work for free, enabling her to add a few more bucks to the mountain of money she already has. But if whoever wants to earn something in return for their work, that's a no-no.
She is even worse than I thought. Ultimate bitch.
Heh. Top that with Enlightenment (which is actually shipped on these) and you get easy distro for typical Wal-Mart buyer.
Then, for the next shipment, you cut down on setup costs and provide the machine with Gentoo minimal CD bundled.
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Profit!
...I sure as hell don't want it on any of my servers (or even any of my users' workstations).
That actually depends on what is the server used for. I have some fc5 and fc6 servers on various LANs. They are very stable, run number of network services but are not directly connected to Internet, so I don't need to worry about pulling updates that might break stuff or security holes.
I also maintain about 200 FC5 workstations. They are behind 2 firewalls and authenticated squid and that seems enough, from the security point of view. Those run some complicated VMware shit, for which updates would almost certainly cause partial re-write of a number of very long, badly documented perl and shell scripts. Stuff is outdated but fits the purpose and runs like charm.
Generally, I agree with you though - much safer option for people who can't afford RHEL is CentOS.
On Fedora 8, vlc (livna rpm) works with Pulseaudio - I was just trying DVD + mp3 in a music player, all goes fine.
Just think of how good it could be if you could actually PAY people to put in the effort to make things right?
You mean something like MS does?
RHEL 5.1 (if you mean this as one of two related distros) is a RHEL 5 re-packed to include all bug/security fixes to date, so if you need to do a new install, there's no need to pull hundreds of updates from RHN.
Fedora 8 isn't related too much to RHEL (RHEL 5 was built on Fedora Core 6). I use only Fedora and Red Hat and I'm probably biased. However, F8 includes some neat stuff that warrants checking up by Linux users in general. It works great, too.
That's OK but Grove did not say 'Intel made breathrough'. Computer industry did.
Do read that wikipedia link. I'm sure you'll find that Red Cross flag was made as an opposite to Swiss flag to honor Henry Dunant, Red Cross founder. If anything, Switzerland could sue Red Cross.
That would depend on the validity of arguments. Applies to both sides.
You new around here?
chroot was not written to enhance security. It became a 'security' tool in the hands of inapt sysadmins.
You are so wrong on so many points that it would take too much time to reply to all of them.
Anyway, I think I should start advertising my services of providing Fedora re-spins - any purpose, shape, size, colour. Plays quicktime and wm, too (no sex with Ballmer required).
But what are they going to distribute once really important pieces all become GPLv3 licensed, like samba is already. Don't tell me that Novell and Linspire are able to maintain GPLv2 fork of everything.
You have a pretty shallow look at the issue.
Clued-in people won't even bother looking at obscure distros for any business deployments. Clueless ones will have lots of trouble even finding them.
Another side of the whole argument - how many of 295 mentioned distributions (I excluded RH/fedora, debian/ubuntu, SuSE, Mandrake and Gentoo) are all-purpose systems? We need to exclude embedded ones and strictly specialised distros (like, say IPCop firewall), etc.
Having choice is always good thing. Using 'too much choice' with negative connotation has been translated long time ago. It's called FUD.
Nope. It's my boss but not because he doesn't want to, there just isn't enough extra money left.
The choice only applies if you're talking about individuals. For businesses with hundreds and thousands of computers it is too late. Due to very dishonest way of establishing de facto monopoly, MS has locked in millions into vicious upgrade cycle. Other software vendors for years released only Windows applications. When your business is decent size and depends on VB code, Autodesk CAD, even fucking Exchange - you can't switch anymore, it's prohibitively expensive.
For millions around the world it's OS of the present. Future, too.
How many of them are in the position to have monopoly in a PC market? Yeah, zero so we can just ignore bustards. Hard to ignore Gates though. The reason to hate him is that he hasn't achieved that position ethically in the first place, let alone active exploatation of it and destruction of any remotely dangerous competition. Bill Gates is a bad person.
I am amused every time I see someone showing utter ignorance of the basic GPL premise after lurking around slashdot for, according to slashdot ID, at least five years. You had plenty of time to learn four simple lines of the free software definition but you chose to spread FUD instead.
GPL is the only license that equaly protects freedom of software producers who opted to show their code and users of that software.
The article, however, is not about that. It is about defectiveness of the iPhone by way of using policy driven DRM which restricts FREEDOM of people who purchased device and media to use the same device and same media as they are pleased.
We actually can. Those that cannot are obviously aliens.
Fedora. Fast-paced perhaps but plenty to learn and contribute.
Check with this guy.
Perhaps he's made some progress on that invention.