I agree, updates should be free, especially if they have anything to do with MS's fault. However if they are talking about Product Upgrades(from one version to another for example) they already are charging people for that. I'd say righfully so. But product updates should always be free. I shouldn't have to choose between keeping my system unsecure or having to pay for the patches.
Third, you can bet your ass that the output of folks in China and India is as good as the United States.
--You'll lose that bet, guaranteed. Where I was born, by western standards it's considered a third world(easter europe). I have lived in America most of my life and was educated here. One thing I can say for sure: The quality of work that goes in US based companies by US workers within the US borders is far, far, far above of that that would be accomplished by easter european workers. I specifically am talking technology here.
I have first hand experience that demonstrates that quality is no longer an issue in most cases. That's one data point, sure, but I've heard similar stories from my colleagues and I've seen the reports. One more time: Quality is not an issue. "They" can do "our" work, if that is how you think about things.
--They can do our work. No argument there. But doing our work with our standars? That's different altogether.
I Agree. However I do not see how we can compete with India. That would be the same as putting Lennox Lewis in the same ring against Oscar De La Hoya. The advantage India has over us is precisely that, they cannot compete at our level, therefore lowering the abundacy of technology jobs in the west, by getting contracted to do the same work, at much lower standards. Sotware Sweat Shops if you want to call them. I always believed software was an amazing creation, founded by scientists, mathematicians, and physicists. For a long time it remained within those ranks, but as it got more popular, it also declined in quality, to now being built in sofware sweat shops. What a pitty. US has millions jobless. I am sure a huge part of that are techies. I feel bad for them, since I've been there. I sincerely hope it will all turn around....soon.
From the article:
--but recommended customers minimise Linux in complex, mission-critical systems "until the merits of SCO's claims or any resulting judgments become clear---
SCO's case is different from cases against MS, and indeed the outcome of this one is not clear, though everyone hopes for the best. I do not think Gartner is trying to HURT OS, rather I believe they are obliged to send out a word of caution, especially since it looks like a part of their customer base, runs or plans to run Linux.
Ok, now not to be in the defense of anyone here, but as a sysadmin, the ultimate nightmare is having: (quoting you)"Everything else (servers to workstations) is running Netware, BSD, Linux or OS X." and add windows to that -- that is 5 different OSes and who knows how many apps in one network. That raises a lot of questions about the integity and security of a network.
Actually I think SCO is counting on the Opposite: Everyone moves to Windows, so they can get their share. With 45 bill. cash in the bank for MS, SCO can make a lot more money getting people to switch than they will ever make collecting from their properites. Either way SCO wins, but in getting people to switch they win BIG.
You are letting too much personal info out. You toured their building when you were 12? What if they have a record of that, and send out their laywers to get you? SCO is all of a sudden " Big brother"
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Wow.I was wondering how to get a lot of points. All I have to do is say: FUCK YOU Bill Gates. Hey give me 3 points now.
I agree, updates should be free, especially if they have anything to do with MS's fault. However if they are talking about Product Upgrades(from one version to another for example) they already are charging people for that. I'd say righfully so. But product updates should always be free. I shouldn't have to choose between keeping my system unsecure or having to pay for the patches.
Third, you can bet your ass that the output of folks in China and India is as good as the United States. --You'll lose that bet, guaranteed. Where I was born, by western standards it's considered a third world(easter europe). I have lived in America most of my life and was educated here. One thing I can say for sure: The quality of work that goes in US based companies by US workers within the US borders is far, far, far above of that that would be accomplished by easter european workers. I specifically am talking technology here. I have first hand experience that demonstrates that quality is no longer an issue in most cases. That's one data point, sure, but I've heard similar stories from my colleagues and I've seen the reports. One more time: Quality is not an issue. "They" can do "our" work, if that is how you think about things. --They can do our work. No argument there. But doing our work with our standars? That's different altogether.
I Agree. However I do not see how we can compete with India. That would be the same as putting Lennox Lewis in the same ring against Oscar De La Hoya. The advantage India has over us is precisely that, they cannot compete at our level, therefore lowering the abundacy of technology jobs in the west, by getting contracted to do the same work, at much lower standards. Sotware Sweat Shops if you want to call them. I always believed software was an amazing creation, founded by scientists, mathematicians, and physicists. For a long time it remained within those ranks, but as it got more popular, it also declined in quality, to now being built in sofware sweat shops. What a pitty. US has millions jobless. I am sure a huge part of that are techies. I feel bad for them, since I've been there. I sincerely hope it will all turn around....soon.
Funny you mentioned that? How come it says I cannot change any of my passwords, or "The password you entered is incorrect". Should I be concerned?
From the article: --but recommended customers minimise Linux in complex, mission-critical systems "until the merits of SCO's claims or any resulting judgments become clear--- SCO's case is different from cases against MS, and indeed the outcome of this one is not clear, though everyone hopes for the best. I do not think Gartner is trying to HURT OS, rather I believe they are obliged to send out a word of caution, especially since it looks like a part of their customer base, runs or plans to run Linux.
Ok, now not to be in the defense of anyone here, but as a sysadmin, the ultimate nightmare is having: (quoting you)"Everything else (servers to workstations) is running Netware, BSD, Linux or OS X." and add windows to that -- that is 5 different OSes and who knows how many apps in one network. That raises a lot of questions about the integity and security of a network.
"Not only was it free but no future legal hassles" --You might want to revise this sentence.
Wow, a long dialogue you wrote there, however I still suggest you stay away from the fiction genre, you're no good at it.
Actually I think SCO is counting on the Opposite: Everyone moves to Windows, so they can get their share. With 45 bill. cash in the bank for MS, SCO can make a lot more money getting people to switch than they will ever make collecting from their properites. Either way SCO wins, but in getting people to switch they win BIG.
You are letting too much personal info out. You toured their building when you were 12? What if they have a record of that, and send out their laywers to get you? SCO is all of a sudden " Big brother"
money out of the corporations is a good idea, but the individual users should be left alone