Makes me wonder... if you update everything but redhat-release*.i386.rpm, the system will still report itself as being RH8 or whatever.
Of course, a quick "uname -a" and "rpm -qa" will show the true situation. What does Oracle say about this, especially in light of the recent rsync and kernel do_brk vulns?
Dunno about you, but my favorite 3rd party apps seem to work ok. Mainly, Adobe Acrobat, Star Office, mplayer, xmms-mp3, etc. The only things that really seem to be "beta" about fedora are my usual XFree86/Gnome gripes: needs better help system, more thorough/accesible docs, MIME-type/drag-n-drop, etc. Basically just desktop integration issues for me. As far as upgrades and bugfixes go, I just follow the announcements on LinuxToday, or run up2date weekly.
As for "...how long? I would imagine as long as there's community support and corporate interest.
Agreed further still; I wanted the Pentax in college, but couldn't afford it. I got a used Nikon body, all metal construction, manual focus, etc. At the time, it was about $100 USD (used, good condition) from a local shop, so check your local newspaper and phone books near large cities. BTW it still works ok (my brother has it now).
Even weirder: my Dad's Taron bodies with Carl Zeiss lenses from 1972 also work just fine, just FYI...
Well, now you have my interest, never mind moderating. I just reorganized my backups from my *personal* workstation, and last year's email totalled 795 megs in tar.gz format. Mind you, my ISP is a local mom-n-pop dial-up provider; I use linux.
What I'd like to know is how you track all that info down; sure, I use "host" , "dig", and "traceroute" sometimes. Nmap is useful when I get *really* pissed. Problem is, literally 95% of my email is spam because I don't buy that "marketing partners" BS. Also, it seems to always come from repeat offenders munging the subject, etc.
Looks like you used some type of business records. So, how do you find all that out? I've got a *big* list of names to check, and a few weeks of time... thx in advance.
...stating that you don't like Linux here in/. is pure balsphemy, let's watch his Karma burnt by our fellow mods.
Lets watch another "fellow mod" wean himself from his pepto-bismol, or anti-acid medication of choice, and take multiple attempts at *fairness*, especially towards "newbies" who may not be all familiar with this place.
Let alone the fact that this "fellow mod" does try to be as even-handed as possible *from a Linux box*.
"I don't get it - aren't monopolies/price fixing illegal?
Evidently its not illegal as long as the proper regulatory agencies, gov't bureaucracies, and "fees" are involved.
Case in point: My basic landline phone bill is ~$30/mo. With no long distance calls whatsoever, the "fees" bring the *actual* bill close to $70/mo. The itemization lists various regulatory overhead items, inter-state, and Federal fees. 'Nuff said.
Well, I know for a fact that my employer has copies of my DOB, medical records, eye color, SSN#, driver's license, taxes, etc. And they're not even a megacorp. Speculation has nothing to do with it. Next question?
to the motor vehicle dept., for example? (They are allowed to lease *cough* sell *cough* info here in NY state USA.) Or when I go to see the doctor? Hell, I *still* get snail-mail for my mother, *even though she died a year and a half ago*. Me thinks there may be a good job market for some *truly qualified* DBA's. What part of "Deceased, here's the papers." do marketers and Gov't not understand?
will someone please *off* the AC troll that's going on about the cert types? Yes, I *know* the diff, without even RTFA, and I *own* an original Orange Book. FWIW, the anti-troll ammo is on me for the next 12 Z
... and it has *very little* to do with their stock price. It has a lot to do with credibility when making a sale.
Think of it this way: lots of tech people get certifications such as CCNA, MCSE, etc. in order to get through the hiring process. The actual certifications may be meaningless in any number of ways, but the hiring people insist on them.
Now, think of this: RH, as a fictitious person (a corporation) needs to get this cert so it can get that cool job. They want to get hired for that big enterprise thing, since they've been saying, "Enterprise" a lot lately. The hiring manager(s) want to see that cert on their CV.
My conclusion? This is a very smart move for RH, and they should pursue similar avenues as the market dictates.
How about my Dad? Master's deg 1959, MIT. PhD 1970, SUNY. Aerospace engineer, systems integration. And yes, he subscribes to a few dues-paying places and gets lots of books/magazines.
AFAIK, this is similar to the nVidia drivers for the kernel - The nVidia driver itself is is a closed binary, and that's OK. It doesn't modify the kernel, which is open. I wouldn't expect nVidia to open their code; that's unrealistic and unfair to them. As long as they don't need to modify the kernel and close it up, it's cool. Their driver is their driver - they can do whatever they want with that, IMHO.
Which is why my (small, outdated, and embarassing) site actually has all the source on it which I used at the time, in addition to documentation. It costs me a but, but I figured it was a fair deal.
There's a bit of irony here tho - last I heard, it was illegal to use DeCSS or whatever to play DVD's on my workstation. Now some manufacturer is using Linux anyway? WTF?
And yeah, stuff gets out of hand around here sometimes, and needs to stay within reason - or at least professionalism, IMHO.
One wonders if this could open up a whole new market for Transmeta. Imagine, a bios that morphs to fit whatever it finds on the mobo anyhow - no more setup screens.
Small biz idea for slashdotters: Dump the contents of yer older BIOSes to EEPROMs with a burner. Sorta like what people were doing with those satellite TV chips. Then sell them in kit form to the brave hardware hackers, or offer installation service.
could even have a chip exchange, co-op, or a flea market, complete with "what fits what" database.
Dunno where it is offhand, but I've got a snippet of assembley code that dumps the complete BIOS to a floppy. I'm happy with the AMI BIOS from 2000 that I'm using - easy to setup, and all the features.
I'm reading this thread for the Windows/AOL info, since I use Linux and need more clues about Windows.
That said, the 2.6.x Linux kernels have the ability to mangle and spoof MAC addys, in addition to NAT/MASQ and building firewalls based on MAC. This is in addition to all the iptables godness.
My firewall uses iptables *and* echoes the desired behavior into kernel-space by setting the desired values in/proc with a script at bootup. For ex:
## Disable accepting IP source routing
for f in/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/accept_source_route;
do
echo 0 > $f
done
As far as the chmod goes, one could also use chattr to set the "immutable" bit e.g. "chattr +i foo.bar". Its more potent than chmod since not even root can touch an immutable file; you have to become root and remove the immutable bit first.
YHBT. HAND
Of course, a quick "uname -a" and "rpm -qa" will show the true situation. What does Oracle say about this, especially in light of the recent rsync and kernel do_brk vulns?
As for "...how long? I would imagine as long as there's community support and corporate interest.
Agreed further still; I wanted the Pentax in college, but couldn't afford it. I got a used Nikon body, all metal construction, manual focus, etc. At the time, it was about $100 USD (used, good condition) from a local shop, so check your local newspaper and phone books near large cities. BTW it still works ok (my brother has it now).
Even weirder: my Dad's Taron bodies with Carl Zeiss lenses from 1972 also work just fine, just FYI...
What I'd like to know is how you track all that info down; sure, I use "host" , "dig", and "traceroute" sometimes. Nmap is useful when I get *really* pissed. Problem is, literally 95% of my email is spam because I don't buy that "marketing partners" BS. Also, it seems to always come from repeat offenders munging the subject, etc.
Looks like you used some type of business records. So, how do you find all that out? I've got a *big* list of names to check, and a few weeks of time... thx in advance.
Ooops. Memo to self: Avoid posting whilst drunk.
The "Flaming Moe" defense, instead of the "Chewbacca "defense? Cool, I was getting sick of the Chewbacca stuff. That's *so* like, 1979...
Lets watch another "fellow mod" wean himself from his pepto-bismol, or anti-acid medication of choice, and take multiple attempts at *fairness*, especially towards "newbies" who may not be all familiar with this place.
Let alone the fact that this "fellow mod" does try to be as even-handed as possible *from a Linux box*.
And another glass raised from those of us who remember when it was sunsite.unc.edu and tsx-11!
Evidently its not illegal as long as the proper regulatory agencies, gov't bureaucracies, and "fees" are involved.
Case in point: My basic landline phone bill is ~$30/mo. With no long distance calls whatsoever, the "fees" bring the *actual* bill close to $70/mo. The itemization lists various regulatory overhead items, inter-state, and Federal fees. 'Nuff said.
Well, I know for a fact that my employer has copies of my DOB, medical records, eye color, SSN#, driver's license, taxes, etc. And they're not even a megacorp. Speculation has nothing to do with it. Next question?
Sorry, end rant.
Indeed. I like mine fried with butter and garlic. Here, have some?
...here, look at the column under "Criteria". Be careful not to slashdot it - note the .mil domain ;)
will someone please *off* the AC troll that's going on about the cert types? Yes, I *know* the diff, without even RTFA, and I *own* an original Orange Book. FWIW, the anti-troll ammo is on me for the next 12 Z
Think of it this way: lots of tech people get certifications such as CCNA, MCSE, etc. in order to get through the hiring process. The actual certifications may be meaningless in any number of ways, but the hiring people insist on them.
Now, think of this: RH, as a fictitious person (a corporation) needs to get this cert so it can get that cool job. They want to get hired for that big enterprise thing, since they've been saying, "Enterprise" a lot lately. The hiring manager(s) want to see that cert on their CV.
My conclusion? This is a very smart move for RH, and they should pursue similar avenues as the market dictates.
How about my Dad? Master's deg 1959, MIT. PhD 1970, SUNY. Aerospace engineer, systems integration. And yes, he subscribes to a few dues-paying places and gets lots of books/magazines.
All of the boxen you named have virii... :)
AFAIK, this is similar to the nVidia drivers for the kernel - The nVidia driver itself is is a closed binary, and that's OK. It doesn't modify the kernel, which is open. I wouldn't expect nVidia to open their code; that's unrealistic and unfair to them. As long as they don't need to modify the kernel and close it up, it's cool. Their driver is their driver - they can do whatever they want with that, IMHO.
There's a bit of irony here tho - last I heard, it was illegal to use DeCSS or whatever to play DVD's on my workstation. Now some manufacturer is using Linux anyway? WTF?
And yeah, stuff gets out of hand around here sometimes, and needs to stay within reason - or at least professionalism, IMHO.
One wonders if this could open up a whole new market for Transmeta. Imagine, a bios that morphs to fit whatever it finds on the mobo anyhow - no more setup screens.
could even have a chip exchange, co-op, or a flea market, complete with "what fits what" database.
Dunno where it is offhand, but I've got a snippet of assembley code that dumps the complete BIOS to a floppy. I'm happy with the AMI BIOS from 2000 that I'm using - easy to setup, and all the features.
a good game of "Twister" will enable you to start your *own* family!
That said, the 2.6.x Linux kernels have the ability to mangle and spoof MAC addys, in addition to NAT/MASQ and building firewalls based on MAC. This is in addition to all the iptables godness.
My firewall uses iptables *and* echoes the desired behavior into kernel-space by setting the desired values in /proc with a script at bootup. For ex:
## Disable accepting IP source routing
for f in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/accept_source_route;
do
echo 0 > $f
done
As far as the chmod goes, one could also use chattr to set the "immutable" bit e.g. "chattr +i foo.bar". Its more potent than chmod since not even root can touch an immutable file; you have to become root and remove the immutable bit first.
Damn... I was just recovering from all those 20-year-old "virii"...