about VHS and BetaMax in this day and age which I think the author missed, is that there doesn't seem to be any discussion of DRM surrounding these technologies, being essentially analog formats. For myself, VHS is the way to go, simply because it's cheap and available everywhere, with few or no restrictions for personal use. And yes, I remember when *both* of them were invented; this was at about the same time that Xerox copiers began to show up in public. You should have heard the content creators screaming about piracy.
any chance there's a way to get the (former) PayPal to acknowledge that I paid them a year ago with my M/C, thereby removing the restrictions on it? After all, it's had a $0 balance since May 2002...
and the full text of the interview. I'm starting to think he's onto something, given such newer areas of research as chaos theory and complexity . For the uninformed, these are the folks who bring you such things as fractal generation and the "butterfly effect". (I have purchased hardcopy/books a few years ago). I hope he will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that what Jaron's question really is, is "At which point can we not use complex computations/computers to model the "real" world (FSVO $REAL)? If our computational mechanisims and models approach the complexity of the "real", how can we validate our results against a third-party?"
Just an idea.
Actually, IBM has offered a hardware strong-crypto board for a couple years now. I don't have the price or the specs at hand, but I noticed the drivers for it in the kernel source back when 2.4 came out. I'm pretty sure the military and the banks are using these boards, keeping lives and transactions secure.
for me, as a day-to-day linux user for several years now. I don't dual-boot, nor do I have any other type of system around. I don't want any other type of system.
The irony is this: I've noticed that Hollywood seems to have no problems with using open systems (such as linux) for editing and special effects, and then locking down everything in sight after doing their production. This is regardless of the fact that some popular movies are drawn directly from the public domain of some very old children's stories.
I've noticed that certain tech companies have no problem making sales (even linux-based sales) to various Hollywood companies. I've noticed how tech companies spend a lot of PR on this novel concept of "Open-ness".
I've noticed how the/. crowd has reacted to DRM, the DMCA, etc.
And I've noticed that the core developers for any major sub-system and application don't really seem to give a damn about any of the above-mentioned flak; they just keep coding, de-bugging, and doing what they think is right.
My personal reaction to this percieved irony (hypocrisy?) is this:
Will they all please sit down and STFU ?!
I'm not gonna have the least bit of respect, nor will I open my wallet ($$$), until I start seeing people and companies practice what they preach and scream so loudly about. After all, the core developers have been practicing what they've preached for years now. This last fact is evident in the working, day-to-day code.
That the contents of the networks and the ways people use them are a fair reflection of the way society *is*, or of the way we would like it to be? Thank you for your time.
Long answer: Let M$ have what they've earned. Personally, I wouldn't tolerate a Windows UI on Linux, BSD, or anything else for that matter.
Simple reason for this: I prefer a combination of Gnome/Enlightenment. That's all it is, just personal preferences. When M$ offers this combination without their spyware (ya, right!) please get back to me.
Heck, at least with Open Source/Free Software I at least *have* choices like that.
the SUNY system (State University of New York) as a New york native. I'm on the other side of the state from you, but I've been to "technical schools", certification schools, and the SUNY system. Yeah, a degree takes a lot longer and it's a lot more work - but I've found that the state colleges and universities are quite thorough and in-depth, at least in my area (Lewiston-Queenston border/Niagara Falls) The "technical" and certification schools were basically ripoff cram courses for exams, with no real in-depth knowledge.
The state system has world-class equipment too, (again, at least in my area) often used to support other academic areas in the school system.
I truly think this should be modded as "Insightful", it's quite true in my experience. The cure that I use for this is to read the code comments and subscribe to the mailing lists.
A guy I know in school works at the regional CitiGroup office, and he says they're using a system like that. Yes, it's a very solid setup. It's nice to know that your mortgage bank has good taste in equipment, especially after making another payment...
I'll second that; I have to wonder how many Alphas Cray actually bought, because last I heard they use LOTS of them...
Let's not forget that stuff like that is favorite equipment at some large government labs and agencies, mainly for engineering and visualization work.
The difference is also one of convenience, accuracy (as far as possible, given the media), and using your tax dollar as it was originally intended:
"...to promote the Progress of Science and the useful Arts..."... sort of like the original ARPAnet, I think. Not the massive hype engine we have today. Not like the Corporate conglonerate wet dream for Marketing. Not for spammers. Not for millions of unused personal web pages, still under construction.
Mainly, the difference is one of intent and quality of content, howver subjective those may be.
at how powerful data mining tecniques can be. Why, just today I have recieved 3 more "Nigerian" mails, an offer to increase my bust size (I'm a guy), and an excellent credit report from 5 different, unheard-of companies...
Of course, the local supermarket cannot accept my personal check for groceries without their "discount card", never mind that it was *their* database admins who lost my account after a few weeks...
(er, yeah right, and my driver's licence and birth certificate aren't worth as much as their card ??)
If you've ever compiled Enlightenment, you'll notice that it checks for Ale in libFridge (before invoking gcc proper), then it flames you for not having any Ale in Fridge...
Somebody please mod up Squarewav's comment! No kidding, I totally agree, and I'll add to it: Not only are MS and Linux free to choose how to express themselves, their customers and users are, too!
If you want to see some *really* intense debate on the subject, you should check out the last few day's worth of posts on the kernel mailing list. It's freakin' rare when RMS responds to (perceived) trolling.
You seem to be saying that the windows UI appeals to most people when you say "Why isn't it possible to have an interface that appeals to MOST people (actually,Window's interface is exactly that..."
Now, how much choice did they exercise when it came pre-loaded? And yet you say that choice is good?
IMHO, what really needs to change is that Linux needs something like the Installshield Wizard, and offer the various desktop environs as "skinnable themes", regardless of the underlying technologies. I do not mean KDE themes, or Enightenment/Gnome themes. I mean KDE or GNOME *as* themes, possibly with sub-themes.
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about VHS and BetaMax in this day and age which I think the author missed, is that there doesn't seem to be any discussion of DRM surrounding these technologies, being essentially analog formats. For myself, VHS is the way to go, simply because it's cheap and available everywhere, with few or no restrictions for personal use. And yes, I remember when *both* of them were invented; this was at about the same time that Xerox copiers began to show up in public. You should have heard the content creators screaming about piracy.
any chance there's a way to get the (former) PayPal to acknowledge that I paid them a year ago with my M/C, thereby removing the restrictions on it? After all, it's had a $0 balance since May 2002...
er, wait a minute....
This question may sound a bit dumb, but "You have to activate XP for a freakin' *hardware* upgrade???"
Damn....
In order to explain the "dumbness" of my question: I switched to linux *exclusively* 6 years ago. I am SO glad I did that after reading all this...
and the full text of the interview. I'm starting to think he's onto something, given such newer areas of research as chaos theory and complexity . For the uninformed, these are the folks who bring you such things as fractal generation and the "butterfly effect". (I have purchased hardcopy/books a few years ago). I hope he will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that what Jaron's question really is, is "At which point can we not use complex computations/computers to model the "real" world (FSVO $REAL)? If our computational mechanisims and models approach the complexity of the "real", how can we validate our results against a third-party?" Just an idea.
Actually, IBM has offered a hardware strong-crypto board for a couple years now. I don't have the price or the specs at hand, but I noticed the drivers for it in the kernel source back when 2.4 came out. I'm pretty sure the military and the banks are using these boards, keeping lives and transactions secure.
for me, as a day-to-day linux user for several years now. I don't dual-boot, nor do I have any other type of system around. I don't want any other type of system.
/. crowd has reacted to DRM, the DMCA, etc.
The irony is this: I've noticed that Hollywood seems to have no problems with using open systems (such as linux) for editing and special effects, and then locking down everything in sight after doing their production. This is regardless of the fact that some popular movies are drawn directly from the public domain of some very old children's stories.
I've noticed that certain tech companies have no problem making sales (even linux-based sales) to various Hollywood companies. I've noticed how tech companies spend a lot of PR on this novel concept of "Open-ness".
I've noticed how the
And I've noticed that the core developers for any major sub-system and application don't really seem to give a damn about any of the above-mentioned flak; they just keep coding, de-bugging, and doing what they think is right.
My personal reaction to this percieved irony (hypocrisy?) is this:
Will they all please sit down and STFU ?!
I'm not gonna have the least bit of respect, nor will I open my wallet ($$$), until I start seeing people and companies practice what they preach and scream so loudly about. After all, the core developers have been practicing what they've preached for years now. This last fact is evident in the working, day-to-day code.
That the contents of the networks and the ways people use them are a fair reflection of the way society *is*, or of the way we would like it to be?
Thank you for your time.
Something like what you describe would be very competitive with that new one from IBM, what's it called, the 907?
Well, I hope your idea happens, but I doubt it - especially the part about cost.
would it be, if my bush caught on fire!
Hell, no!
Long answer: Let M$ have what they've earned. Personally, I wouldn't tolerate a Windows UI on Linux, BSD, or anything else for that matter.
Simple reason for this: I prefer a combination of Gnome/Enlightenment. That's all it is, just personal preferences. When M$ offers this combination without their spyware (ya, right!) please get back to me.
Heck, at least with Open Source/Free Software I at least *have* choices like that.
what happened with the Blender?
I don't know if this sort of thing would even be possible in the US; it seems to work "over there", though.
the SUNY system (State University of New York) as a New york native. I'm on the other side of the state from you, but I've been to "technical schools", certification schools, and the SUNY system. Yeah, a degree takes a lot longer and it's a lot more work - but I've found that the state colleges and universities are quite thorough and in-depth, at least in my area (Lewiston-Queenston border/Niagara Falls) The "technical" and certification schools were basically ripoff cram courses for exams, with no real in-depth knowledge.
The state system has world-class equipment too, (again, at least in my area) often used to support other academic areas in the school system.
Just a thought, anyway. Hope you consider it.
I truly think this should be modded as "Insightful", it's quite true in my experience.
The cure that I use for this is to read the code comments and subscribe to the mailing lists.
cd /usr/src/linux
make sgmldocs psdocs pdfdocs htmldocs mandocs
However, I also subscribe to the relevant mailing lists, and review them daily.
HTH
Why do I still prefer bash? Bummer, you'll have to go RTFM yourself....
The difference is money.
"How can I help it thet power likes to walk on crooked legs?"
-- Friederich Nietzsche, "Also Sprach Zarathustra"
*sigh* I guess it's time to change my sig...
Hah! Hah! You hit the nail right on the head! Good one!
A guy I know in school works at the regional CitiGroup office, and he says they're using a system like that. Yes, it's a very solid setup. It's nice to know that your mortgage bank has good taste in equipment, especially after making another payment...
I'll second that; I have to wonder how many Alphas Cray actually bought, because last I heard they use LOTS of them... Let's not forget that stuff like that is favorite equipment at some large government labs and agencies, mainly for engineering and visualization work.
The difference is also one of convenience, accuracy (as far as possible, given the media), and using your tax dollar as it was originally intended: "...to promote the Progress of Science and the useful Arts..." ... sort of like the original ARPAnet, I think. Not the massive hype engine we have today. Not like the Corporate conglonerate wet dream for Marketing. Not for spammers. Not for millions of unused personal web pages, still under construction.
Mainly, the difference is one of intent and quality of content, howver subjective those may be.
*finally* coming true? At my US taxpayers expense? Thanks, slashdot, I'm gonna keep an eye on this one!
at how powerful data mining tecniques can be. Why, just today I have recieved 3 more "Nigerian" mails, an offer to increase my bust size (I'm a guy), and an excellent credit report from 5 different, unheard-of companies...
Of course, the local supermarket cannot accept my personal check for groceries without their "discount card", never mind that it was *their* database admins who lost my account after a few weeks...
(er, yeah right, and my driver's licence and birth certificate aren't worth as much as their card ??)
Ggrrrrrrr......
If you've ever compiled Enlightenment, you'll notice that it checks for Ale in libFridge (before invoking gcc proper), then it flames you for not having any Ale in Fridge...
Somebody please mod up Squarewav's comment! No kidding, I totally agree, and I'll add to it: Not only are MS and Linux free to choose how to express themselves, their customers and users are, too!
If you want to see some *really* intense debate on the subject, you should check out the last few day's worth of posts on the kernel mailing list. It's freakin' rare when RMS responds to (perceived) trolling.
You seem to be saying that the windows UI appeals to most people when you say "Why isn't it possible to have an interface that appeals to MOST people (actually,Window's interface is exactly that..." Now, how much choice did they exercise when it came pre-loaded? And yet you say that choice is good? IMHO, what really needs to change is that Linux needs something like the Installshield Wizard, and offer the various desktop environs as "skinnable themes", regardless of the underlying technologies. I do not mean KDE themes, or Enightenment/Gnome themes. I mean KDE or GNOME *as* themes, possibly with sub-themes.