It wouldn't necessarily benefit the end user sitting at their desktop, but if your company is large enough to have an IT dept. it could possibly benefit them, IMO. Reason why? If say your custom app package gets scrapped years later, or the vendor goes under, gets merged, etc. you would still be able to reconstruct the parts you need. As I see it, having the source is almost a form of business insurance. The vendors need not fear losing their code, I think, because a lot can be done with NDA's, etc.
FYI: as a 3-year concrete worker and a 10-year construction worker in the US: the diameter refers to the ID, like all other pipe commonly available here. Hence, the 144-inch equivalent diameter would be 12 feet. I bet it could be finished and furnished comfortably with room to spare. If you can stand to live in what amounts to a straight-line home the only limiting factors (besides your budget and time) would be the local zoning board. Large energy savings are possible, since the temperature of the Earth's crust is fairly constant at about 53 deg. Fahrenheit. Take advantage of thermal mass, I say.
Bummer about the missiles/bombs tho... it's fairly routine to penetrate (greater than or equal to) 16 ft. thick concrete with conventional munitions... Also, I'd check out the local earthquake/flooding history in your area for the last millenia or so.
Having said all that, it would make a lot of sense to me to do one of these... if only I could get the financing.....
Does anyone think there's a chance to recue this mission with the next several US shuttle launches in exchange for a mostly ready-made comms platform aboard the International Space Station? If yes, why? If no, why not? This could be a very valuable contribution to the ISS from the USSR, given their current difficulties otherwise, IMHO.
Notice that the article says "hopefully someone in a position to act will pay attention."
I totally agree that fewer backbone operators == greater "single points of failure".
However, there is no doubt in my mind that the "people in a position to act" are probably not hanging out at/.
But then again, they would already be aware of this too, if only for business reasons.
Unfortunately *very* few people are influential or wealthy enough to influence backbone operation -- does this make these people another "single point of failure"? (honest question, not flamebait)
Got news for ya: how many people run NT at home? 'Nother little bit: how many of them run '98SE with a broadband connection and no firewall even? Answer: Millions.
BTW, I believe that MS swore under oath that certain apps cannot be practically removed from the system. IMHO, that's the whole cause of a host of ills; the inability to distinguish between system, application, and different users.
Probably quite true, about ego gratification. As a totally unqualified guess, I would say that perhaps 5 - 10% of the people who espouse open source actually have the technical skills to back up their clout, let alone the business skills.
Interesting title to your post, BTW; it makes me wonder if the goal of the contest is not so much the pissing as it is putting out a fire?
Bummer, I have a heart of stone and I *can* go forever without movies, music, etc. Been there, done that since 1990, when the scene really started to go down the crapper, IMO. Not only did I donate to Blender Foundation when they were struggling, but I also try and take the time to build a few (GPL'ed) things and make them freely available *at my own time and expense*
Having said all that, I have a great local music and arts scene, all free of charge in a like manner. This is cool, cuz my monthly entertainment budget was zero anyhow, and I dream of having more than a dialup... (priorities such as rent take precedence)
that large portions of the movies mentioned in the blurb were created using OSS/Free Software. No doubt, they will be available on DVD, requiring some illegal activity to view them on my Linux-powered PC, if I choose to view them at all. (No, I don't have a stand-alone DVD player)
Gonna have to reiterate my position here: having used free software to create free content, I don't expect anything to be "free". There was at least thousands, if not millions of man-hours spent in creating these things; the least I can do is to try and give some back...
Funny thing... my site is about Linux and open standards and protocols. These thousands of people gave me stuff for free, and I intend to at least try and return the favor in kind.
It's embarrassingly out of date since it's a spare time (evenings and weekends) thing for a guy who also works full-time in an unrelated field and attends college full-time when the mood strikes.
It's also straight HTML and tar files, nothing else.
There are no ads of any sort; it all comes out of my back pocket.
That's ok with me; I use a bunch of software (linux) that was created in much the same way, and if I can give anything back to that, I will.
BTW, I'm still proud of the "Documentation" page there at http://steigenlinux.org
Within it's design limits, DOS wasn't that bad... I still have a copy of DOS3.1 here. There's a few other OS's I'm going to miss, too, such as the CP/M for the Kaypro II and Atari's ROM BASIC. Why will I miss them? Because I had to wait until Linux came out to make my computing experience interesting and enjoyable again (meaning: hackable, customizable, and educational.)
With all that in mind, how about doing a "reverse-interview" with M$: instead of interviewing ppl, we send this entire discussion thread, webpage and all to ppl at M$ in memoriam to DOS as a gesture of last respects for it?
Amen, brother... this exactly fits 99% of the computer users I know. If you saw my previous post, the only reason I have the huge workstation is because I got sick of waiting 6+ hours on large compile jobs... otherwise, a P75, for example, is adequate.
weird... I ran RH just fine on everything from a 486 up to now with gnome/enlightenment... I'd love to see some tech details on that one, it just doesn't sound right
Yeah, they're just figuring this out. Of course, I went and did the "impossible" for a buddy of mine at work and installed XP on his Cyrix MII box with 96 megs of ram... People really need to begin asking themselves why things are spec'd the way they are, and maybe save a few $$$ As for myself, there's a few 486's and P75's sitting around here, perfectly adequate for 90% of the day-to-day stuff. I've got this monster dual PIII Coppermine box here with a gig of ram for the other 10%
Yeah, that's certainly true about originality... but I don't understand the part about "feeling better". I mean, I feel fine, and doing linux on the desktop gives me what I want from a computer. Why would I need to feel better?
Mainly I agree, but I don't percieve it as "whining", more like it pointing and laughing at it because it took so long for such a huge company with massive resources to deal with these concepts.
*Sigh* true, true... I guess that puts me somewhere between you 8% and your 2%... Nowdays, if I get help calls for anything windows, it's just easier to tell the truth and say "I don't know" because it's been so long since I used it. Best bet is to get people to find and use their support cantract, if any. As for myself, well... I'm OK with supporting myself.
Heh, I don't even have to wast for the holidays... ppl call me up anyhow, and the first thing that crosses my mind is dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 There now, that should fix it....
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the last time I saw clippy, I unbent one end and used it to clean some body parts. "Bob" was unavailable to comment on my actions since he had gone on to found a major religion (Church of the Sub-genius)
It wouldn't necessarily benefit the end user sitting at their desktop, but if your company is large enough to have an IT dept. it could possibly benefit them, IMO. Reason why? If say your custom app package gets scrapped years later, or the vendor goes under, gets merged, etc. you would still be able to reconstruct the parts you need. As I see it, having the source is almost a form of business insurance. The vendors need not fear losing their code, I think, because a lot can be done with NDA's, etc.
Well, whatever it's called nowdays...
FYI: as a 3-year concrete worker and a 10-year construction worker in the US: the diameter refers to the ID, like all other pipe commonly available here. Hence, the 144-inch equivalent diameter would be 12 feet. I bet it could be finished and furnished comfortably with room to spare. If you can stand to live in what amounts to a straight-line home the only limiting factors (besides your budget and time) would be the local zoning board. Large energy savings are possible, since the temperature of the Earth's crust is fairly constant at about 53 deg. Fahrenheit. Take advantage of thermal mass, I say.
Bummer about the missiles/bombs tho... it's fairly routine to penetrate (greater than or equal to) 16 ft. thick concrete with conventional munitions... Also, I'd check out the local earthquake/flooding history in your area for the last millenia or so.
Having said all that, it would make a lot of sense to me to do one of these... if only I could get the financing.....
Why does this remind me of fsck?
Does anyone think there's a chance to recue this mission with the next several US shuttle launches in exchange for a mostly ready-made comms platform aboard the International Space Station? If yes, why? If no, why not? This could be a very valuable contribution to the ISS from the USSR, given their current difficulties otherwise, IMHO.
Notice that the article says "hopefully someone in a position to act will pay attention."
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I totally agree that fewer backbone operators == greater "single points of failure".
However, there is no doubt in my mind that the "people in a position to act" are probably not hanging out at
But then again, they would already be aware of this too, if only for business reasons.
Unfortunately *very* few people are influential or wealthy enough to influence backbone operation -- does this make these people another "single point of failure"? (honest question, not flamebait)
Got news for ya: how many people run NT at home?
'Nother little bit: how many of them run '98SE with a broadband connection and no firewall even? Answer: Millions.
BTW, I believe that MS swore under oath that certain apps cannot be practically removed from the system. IMHO, that's the whole cause of a host of ills; the inability to distinguish between system, application, and different users.
Probably quite true, about ego gratification. As a totally unqualified guess, I would say that perhaps 5 - 10% of the people who espouse open source actually have the technical skills to back up their clout, let alone the business skills.
Interesting title to your post, BTW; it makes me wonder if the goal of the contest is not so much the pissing as it is putting out a fire?
Bummer, I have a heart of stone and I *can* go forever without movies, music, etc. Been there, done that since 1990, when the scene really started to go down the crapper, IMO. Not only did I donate to Blender Foundation when they were struggling, but I also try and take the time to build a few (GPL'ed) things and make them freely available *at my own time and expense*
Having said all that, I have a great local music and arts scene, all free of charge in a like manner. This is cool, cuz my monthly entertainment budget was zero anyhow, and I dream of having more than a dialup... (priorities such as rent take precedence)
that large portions of the movies mentioned in the blurb were created using OSS/Free Software. No doubt, they will be available on DVD, requiring some illegal activity to view them on my Linux-powered PC, if I choose to view them at all. (No, I don't have a stand-alone DVD player)
So, guess where my money goes?
I was looking for radioactive spiders, and all I got was this bunch of trees...
Gonna have to reiterate my position here: having used free software to create free content, I don't expect anything to be "free". There was at least thousands, if not millions of man-hours spent in creating these things; the least I can do is to try and give some back...
Funny thing... my site is about Linux and open standards and protocols. These thousands of people gave me stuff for free, and I intend to at least try and return the favor in kind. It's embarrassingly out of date since it's a spare time (evenings and weekends) thing for a guy who also works full-time in an unrelated field and attends college full-time when the mood strikes. It's also straight HTML and tar files, nothing else. There are no ads of any sort; it all comes out of my back pocket. That's ok with me; I use a bunch of software (linux) that was created in much the same way, and if I can give anything back to that, I will. BTW, I'm still proud of the "Documentation" page there at http://steigenlinux.org
Why is the Navy kowtowing to (possibly) civillian law, when as a federal jurdistiction it is explicitly not subject to those laws?
Within it's design limits, DOS wasn't that bad... I still have a copy of DOS3.1 here. There's a few other OS's I'm going to miss, too, such as the CP/M for the Kaypro II and Atari's ROM BASIC. Why will I miss them? Because I had to wait until Linux came out to make my computing experience interesting and enjoyable again (meaning: hackable, customizable, and educational.)
With all that in mind, how about doing a "reverse-interview" with M$: instead of interviewing ppl, we send this entire discussion thread, webpage and all to ppl at M$ in memoriam to DOS as a gesture of last respects for it?
Amen, brother... this exactly fits 99% of the computer users I know. If you saw my previous post, the only reason I have the huge workstation is because I got sick of waiting 6+ hours on large compile jobs... otherwise, a P75, for example, is adequate.
weird... I ran RH just fine on everything from a 486 up to now with gnome/enlightenment... I'd love to see some tech details on that one, it just doesn't sound right
Yeah, they're just figuring this out. Of course, I went and did the "impossible" for a buddy of mine at work and installed XP on his Cyrix MII box with 96 megs of ram... People really need to begin asking themselves why things are spec'd the way they are, and maybe save a few $$$ As for myself, there's a few 486's and P75's sitting around here, perfectly adequate for 90% of the day-to-day stuff. I've got this monster dual PIII Coppermine box here with a gig of ram for the other 10%
Yeah, that's certainly true about originality... but I don't understand the part about "feeling better". I mean, I feel fine, and doing linux on the desktop gives me what I want from a computer. Why would I need to feel better?
Mainly I agree, but I don't percieve it as "whining", more like it pointing and laughing at it because it took so long for such a huge company with massive resources to deal with these concepts.
*Sigh* true, true... I guess that puts me somewhere between you 8% and your 2%... Nowdays, if I get help calls for anything windows, it's just easier to tell the truth and say "I don't know" because it's been so long since I used it. Best bet is to get people to find and use their support cantract, if any. As for myself, well... I'm OK with supporting myself.
Heh, I don't even have to wast for the holidays... ppl call me up anyhow, and the first thing that crosses my mind is
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512
There now, that should fix it....
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the last time I saw clippy, I unbent one end and used it to clean some body parts. "Bob" was unavailable to comment on my actions since he had gone on to found a major religion (Church of the Sub-genius)
What if I'm cross-eyed?
nope, no ps2... I'm not into games since the atari 800