Well, it offers more, but apt-get is the raison d'etre to switch
Not anymore, since all distros cloned it.
I really thought it was stated somewhere explicitly, but it just makes common sense not to mix stable and unstable, or at least I thought it was common sense.
Not really. What if you really want to use a cool app, but find out that it wants to upgrade your glibc for example? IMHO, only the core os should fall on the stable, testing and unstable trees. At least ximian did their 1.0 desktop for potato, not woody. So, i can't mix and match. I should be able to have a rock solid core system with the newest user space apps. Do you think kde 3.1.4 is less stable than 2.2? Both never have crashed on me. So why do i have to use an inferior, older system, just because some guys have played with it longer?
This is simple flamebait. If you don't like it, don't listen. Gentoo is optimized. It doesn't matter much in a server environment, but from expierence, I can tell you that gentoo with gnome 2.2 flies on a 500mhz laptop,
Well, i learned the hard way that -O3 simple sucks. My system felt slower than any version of slackware. I also tried prelinking, and didn't notice anything. Maybe if i tried again with -O2 or -Os i would find it faster than slackware or vector linux, but i hardly think so. Remember those articles where mandrake and debian beat gentoo in every speed test? And like i said, gentoo eats your hard drive fast, because you need to download additional libraries to compile programs that you wouldn't need just to run the app
Seems to me that all that Debian has got to offer these days is apt-get. That's the first thing they say, and forget to say that almost every distro in the world now supports apt-get (even slackware)
Debian users say that debian is great because it's so stable. Well, if i wanted to use a stable server i would use freebsd (record in uptime in netcraft)
Debian users say that debian is great because the latest software is always available, i still say "no xfree 4.3" and tons of other packages that are missing, and they don't mention that mixing stable packages with unstable packages will break the system. You either use stable or unstable, and if you go with unstable you cannot go back unless you reinstall.
Debian users say that debian is great because of the social contract. Well, that social contract is the one that keeps some great packages from being packaged officially like mplayer and tons others.
So, what's the only thing that debian really does (good) that others can't? It runs on tons of architectures.
I dont know who is a bigger PITA, the debian zealot talking about apt-get and.debs or the gentoo zealot talking about their customized, bloat-free systems (they seem to forget that you need extra libraries to compile programs that you only need for compiling and not for regular use, filling up your drive really good with all the development libraries)
Now your going to say that they cost too much. They don't cost any more than a PC. Ohh, your talking about a stripped down PC with no extra's. Ok, PC are cheaper...
Oh come on, i want to buy a powerbook myself (love os x!) but the price/value just sucks. For 1599$ i can get a powerbook 1.0ghz with 256mb. For 1299$ i can get a pc laptop with 2.8ghz and 512 mb ram, loaded with all the same features.
Defend the mac, but please DON'T LIE. Tell me you like the OS. Tell me you think the hardware is pretty and durable, tell me the apps are good, tell me they are great for multimedia, but NEVER, NEVER tell me they are cheaper!!!
150 mb just for a GUI with some apps. It's as big as win98 install already.
Having said that, it looks sweet. Konqueror is getting better every day, and i am looking forward to kopete (don't use 0.8 beta, it's buggy as hell, i reported around 10 big bugs already)
I use Redhat because despite the fact that I installed 7.1 a couple of years ago I pay my $60 a year so that I can run "up2date" once a day to keep my security patches up to date. I pay my $60 for both systems.
You don't have to pay to use up2date
The end result for Redhat, no more income from me.
Still, this was not done to stop freeloaders, as we can still use fedora (a.k.a red hat linux 10).
So the only thing that is changed, is that you wont receive installation support or being able to buy it at stores
Maybe "Red Hat Linux Personal Edition" (the name) is dead, but a free desktop oriented red hat linux version is not. Fedora a.k.a Red Hat Linux X is coming, download only , not sold in stores
The only way to destroy a monopoly, is for another monopoly to destroy it.
As more and more office clones come by, microsoft will stay strong. The only way to get some competition, is that microsoft gets just one other suite competing with them. Then the monopoly is gone and 2 competing products are in.
Lather, rinse, repeat and you end all monopolies and get a full competing market
Duh! Because 99% of the reviews are done with stuff that has not gone retail just yet. They do the reviews so the people can be informed just when the product is available
Remember this is slashdot? Mostly what we think is the thought of a minority. Windows is used almost by 95% of the world, like it or not. We are supposed to be smarter, to have choices, to do what's "right" or to do better.
There's a reason plain text is the standard, it's because ANYONE can read it, even on dumb terminals.
HTML in mail is just plain stupid. I am tired of people sending mails in html that take 80k or something when the same can be had with around 4k of plain text. Google some for more info on this subject. Also you should look up on ESR "how to ask questions the smart way" for some more bad things that are common with net use in general
There are tons of ways to solve that problem. Spam/worms/etc are getting so bad that even outlook 2003 comes with a feature built in to disable all html mail and convert it to plain text.
My point wasn't much against html mail, but more against using a program to send mail that uses a propietary html code
One program that really annoys me is hotbar. The main reason so, it adjusts your MS Outlook settings all the time turning off using Word as your HTML editor.
No one on his/her senses uses word as their mail editor. Any one that uses word gets sent to/dev/null in my box.
Plain text is the standard. Use it or lose it. You don't seem to know what horrid html word uses to send mail.
I'm still surprised that slashdot survives without enforcing registration to comment, but still this is the way to go to avoid spam. At least if spam is found they can cancel their account
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How do you get away with typing in all caps? i get the lameness filter
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DR. ZANZIBAR, CONCERNED AND ECCENTRIC PERSON.
You play waaaay too much Metal Gear...
Lah lah something to avoid the lameness filter....
Agent 1: There he is. The anomaly.
Agent 2: Do we proceed?
Agent 1: Yes!
Agent 3: Only human...
Like it would have lasted long... if this is the editor, imagine the server!
It runs apache 2.0.40. Weird.
Well, it offers more, but apt-get is the raison d'etre to switch
Not anymore, since all distros cloned it.
I really thought it was stated somewhere explicitly, but it just makes common sense not to mix stable and unstable, or at least I thought it was common sense.
Not really. What if you really want to use a cool app, but find out that it wants to upgrade your glibc for example? IMHO, only the core os should fall on the stable, testing and unstable trees. At least ximian did their 1.0 desktop for potato, not woody. So, i can't mix and match. I should be able to have a rock solid core system with the newest user space apps. Do you think kde 3.1.4 is less stable than 2.2? Both never have crashed on me. So why do i have to use an inferior, older system, just because some guys have played with it longer?
This is simple flamebait. If you don't like it, don't listen. Gentoo is optimized. It doesn't matter much in a server environment, but from expierence, I can tell you that gentoo with gnome 2.2 flies on a 500mhz laptop,
Well, i learned the hard way that -O3 simple sucks. My system felt slower than any version of slackware. I also tried prelinking, and didn't notice anything. Maybe if i tried again with -O2 or -Os i would find it faster than slackware or vector linux, but i hardly think so. Remember those articles where mandrake and debian beat gentoo in every speed test? And like i said, gentoo eats your hard drive fast, because you need to download additional libraries to compile programs that you wouldn't need just to run the app
Seems to me that all that Debian has got to offer these days is apt-get. That's the first thing they say, and forget to say that almost every distro in the world now supports apt-get (even slackware)
.debs or the gentoo zealot talking about their customized, bloat-free systems (they seem to forget that you need extra libraries to compile programs that you only need for compiling and not for regular use, filling up your drive really good with all the development libraries)
Debian users say that debian is great because it's so stable. Well, if i wanted to use a stable server i would use freebsd (record in uptime in netcraft)
Debian users say that debian is great because the latest software is always available, i still say "no xfree 4.3" and tons of other packages that are missing, and they don't mention that mixing stable packages with unstable packages will break the system. You either use stable or unstable, and if you go with unstable you cannot go back unless you reinstall.
Debian users say that debian is great because of the social contract. Well, that social contract is the one that keeps some great packages from being packaged officially like mplayer and tons others.
So, what's the only thing that debian really does (good) that others can't? It runs on tons of architectures.
I dont know who is a bigger PITA, the debian zealot talking about apt-get and
Don't you ever get tired of the same lame old joke? I know i am
Fedora sounds too much like "Pedora." Which means a girl that farts a lot in Spanish.
That's "pedorra", with double r, sounds like the french r
Now your going to say that they cost too much. They don't cost any more than a PC. Ohh, your talking about a stripped down PC with no extra's. Ok, PC are cheaper...
Oh come on, i want to buy a powerbook myself (love os x!) but the price/value just sucks. For 1599$ i can get a powerbook 1.0ghz with 256mb. For 1299$ i can get a pc laptop with 2.8ghz and 512 mb ram, loaded with all the same features.
Defend the mac, but please DON'T LIE. Tell me you like the OS. Tell me you think the hardware is pretty and durable, tell me the apps are good, tell me they are great for multimedia, but NEVER, NEVER tell me they are cheaper!!!
150 mb just for a GUI with some apps. It's as big as win98 install already.
Having said that, it looks sweet. Konqueror is getting better every day, and i am looking forward to kopete (don't use 0.8 beta, it's buggy as hell, i reported around 10 big bugs already)
Well, i read mine properly, and it only asked me to fill a survey to continue using it for free
I use Redhat because despite the fact that I installed 7.1 a couple of years ago I pay my $60 a year so that I can run "up2date" once a day to keep my security patches up to date. I pay my $60 for both systems.
You don't have to pay to use up2date
The end result for Redhat, no more income from me.
Still, this was not done to stop freeloaders, as we can still use fedora (a.k.a red hat linux 10).
So the only thing that is changed, is that you wont receive installation support or being able to buy it at stores
Maybe "Red Hat Linux Personal Edition" (the name) is dead, but a free desktop oriented red hat linux version is not. Fedora a.k.a Red Hat Linux X is coming, download only , not sold in stores
What about mozilla .xpi installs?
Or windowsupdate?
Or plugins?
The only way to destroy a monopoly, is for another monopoly to destroy it.
As more and more office clones come by, microsoft will stay strong. The only way to get some competition, is that microsoft gets just one other suite competing with them. Then the monopoly is gone and 2 competing products are in.
Lather, rinse, repeat and you end all monopolies and get a full competing market
Can anyone tell me why is the FLUSH_CACHE command being sent anyway? This is a mandrake-only issue.
I can not even think what would have happened if windows xp did this thing.
How about xfree? Last time i checked, xfree was STILL at 4.2.1
Sure, the guy gets sued, now add more pain to his misery and slashdot him into oblivion.
Your daily slashdotting joke, i will be here all week.
First, a guy gets fired, now a guy gets sued...
Come on people, use your blogs to talk about yourself, or what you like, etc, but don't talk about anyone else, or this is what can happen.
the alt tag is bad common practice in html. We are supposed to use "title"
Duh! Because 99% of the reviews are done with stuff that has not gone retail just yet. They do the reviews so the people can be informed just when the product is available
Remember this is slashdot? Mostly what we think is the thought of a minority. Windows is used almost by 95% of the world, like it or not. We are supposed to be smarter, to have choices, to do what's "right" or to do better.
There's a reason plain text is the standard, it's because ANYONE can read it, even on dumb terminals.
HTML in mail is just plain stupid. I am tired of people sending mails in html that take 80k or something when the same can be had with around 4k of plain text. Google some for more info on this subject. Also you should look up on ESR "how to ask questions the smart way" for some more bad things that are common with net use in general
Then why not attach the word/html/pdf/etc file?
There are tons of ways to solve that problem. Spam/worms/etc are getting so bad that even outlook 2003 comes with a feature built in to disable all html mail and convert it to plain text.
My point wasn't much against html mail, but more against using a program to send mail that uses a propietary html code
No one on his/her senses uses word as their mail editor. Any one that uses word gets sent to
Plain text is the standard. Use it or lose it. You don't seem to know what horrid html word uses to send mail.
I'm still surprised that slashdot survives without enforcing registration to comment, but still this is the way to go to avoid spam. At least if spam is found they can cancel their account