or point something out about some programming language in a scholarly way.
Not quite. It can't be any programming language. It has to be Java or Perl or Php or something the kids on/. are using.
Say something nice about C# and watch them rip you a new karmic asshole.
If you're over 40, you are treated like crap on slashdot. If these kids would listen to an experienced point of view sometimes, they might learn something.
I used to be a very good/. poster. I'd read the comments, try to keep up with an existing thread before starting a new one, etc.
Then I discovered something: If I said *anything* that was *slightly sympathetic* to Microsoft, I'd get modded down!
So now I don't give a shit. I changed my username, told a buddy of mine that I'd help promote his Oracle and I say anything and everything. It hasn't hurt my Karma one bit, either, it's still hovering around 100.
There used to be a nifty metamoderator, but I don't think the/. cabal, now worth mere pennies instead of millions, really care anymore. These self-regulated bulletin boards were an idea that has utterly and completely failed.
The trouble is that it doesn't reward expertise. You have to say something that will please the 17-19 year old anti-establishment punk crowd that dominates this system.
I had good luck for a while with a "Markov Chain" generator that took all existing posts and generated gibberish that looked and sounded coherent on first glance. Since long posts tend to get modded up no matter what they say, it worked well. I just got too lazy to maintain it.
Oh about Austrailian Censorship! I'm with you--I want to know about some sites that are blocked so we can figure out the technology they're using to stop them. That's no troll.
DO you mean that the THREE Penguins in Mary Poppins--done YEARS before Linus T. was even BORN--aren't enough for you?
Warning! This /, post is a money-making venture
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All of those AMAZON URLs have the "referrer" encoded into them so he gets a SPIF if you buy that book from Amazon.
Please be aware that the only point of this "article" is to make a few bucks for some folks that have had their paper net-worth go from severl million dollars to nothing as VA stock goes down the toilet.
Well there are a bunch of folks out there who *do* get that pricetag, usually to come in to save a project and mop up the mess that a bunch of kids like you make.
Are you fully up to date on the W3C's DOM standard and how to write cross-browser compatible script?>
As a matter of fact, I am! I was responsible for the XML-ification of several large projects, too.
You even proved my point more! You think that, because I'm from the days of puch cards, I'm not familiar with the latest whiz-bang technology. I'll have you know that this latest DOM/XML stuff dates back to the early 70s. I've seen this grow from the beginning.
You would discount my capabilities because I'm a geezeer, and many schlock software companies won't pay experienced programmers the $200K+/year that they deserve. That's why there's so much crappy software out there today.
You're one of those inexperienced, inexpensive "programmers" that's lowering the quality of software because you just keep reinventing--badly--the technologies from 5,10,15,20 years ago.
1. The standards for what constitutes a "software engineer" have been lowered because of the Web.
2. Companies don't want to pay enough $$$ to hire what really counts---EXPERIENCE---so they hire low-cost H1B programmers instead.
3. There's rampant AGE DISCRIMINATION so older experinced software engineers stop prorgamming and become managers, or go into other fields.
I joined an R&D group when I turned 40, after spending years managing software products that have earned billions of $$ in revenue cumulatively over the years. Why? Because I didn't want to be forced into managing products staffed with inexperienced and inexepensive programmers, or be involved with shipping non-glamouous tasks (device drivers, etc) to India.
What if this kid was a member of "Al Queda" instead of the Boy Scouts of America?
Or let's give a more moderate example, suppose he was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, an organization that's legally allowed to exist, chose who it wants to be a member, and hold demonstrations.
Now, if this kid was a member of the KKK instead of the Boy Scouts, would you be concerned if the Government didn't do anything to follow up?
And if you would be, why don't you care if it's the Boy Scouts? Personally, I don't see much difference between the two groups, except one gets $$$ and special treatment from the US government and one doesn't.
I support the rights of both the KKK and the BSA to exist.
Paramilitary children's groups that steal taxpayer money by representing themselves as private organizations when they're really CHURCHES building nuclear weapons.
The BSA is a Church for Boys. Even the Supreme Court said as much when they (rightly) said they can discriminate. I don't disagree with that one bit.
Howevever, all other TAX EXEMPT CHRURCHES aren't given special access to military installations, 1000s of acres of land, and the ablility to hire LOBBIESTS in WASHINGTON.
For example, Yahoo gets to trademark not only its own name, but at least 30 misspellings of its name. And it can prevent other groups from registering domain names with the word Yahoo in them, even if they are not competing in any way with Yahoo's business
They never bothered Yahoot!. Though maybe that's because Yahoot has been around since before Yahoo.
It's also a much better source of information than Yahoo is.
It has a geek anti-establishment pro-Apple/Linix bent.
This sounded familiar, then I remembered where I saw it--in the Charlie's Angels movie that came out about 6 mo ago (and is now running on DirectV).
Not quite. It can't be any programming language. It has to be Java or Perl or Php or something the kids on /. are using.
Say something nice about C# and watch them rip you a new karmic asshole.
If you're over 40, you are treated like crap on slashdot. If these kids would listen to an experienced point of view sometimes, they might learn something.
I used to be a very good /. poster. I'd read the comments, try to keep up with an existing thread before starting a new one, etc.
Then I discovered something: If I said *anything* that was *slightly sympathetic* to Microsoft, I'd get modded down!
So now I don't give a shit. I changed my username, told a buddy of mine that I'd help promote his Oracle and I say anything and everything. It hasn't hurt my Karma one bit, either, it's still hovering around 100.
There used to be a nifty metamoderator, but I don't think the /. cabal, now worth mere pennies instead of millions, really care anymore. These self-regulated bulletin boards were an idea that has utterly and completely failed.
The trouble is that it doesn't reward expertise. You have to say something that will please the 17-19 year old anti-establishment punk crowd that dominates this system.
I had good luck for a while with a "Markov Chain" generator that took all existing posts and generated gibberish that looked and sounded coherent on first glance. Since long posts tend to get modded up no matter what they say, it worked well. I just got too lazy to maintain it.
Oh about Austrailian Censorship! I'm with you--I want to know about some sites that are blocked so we can figure out the technology they're using to stop them. That's no troll.
I can't imagine why Sun is so angry at Microsoft simply because they lost and Microsoft won.
Anyway, the whole thing is Moot. Java is dead, like CB radio and the Internet, and isn't taken seriously anymore by anybody.
DO you mean that the THREE Penguins in Mary Poppins--done YEARS before Linus T. was even BORN--aren't enough for you?
Please be aware that the only point of this "article" is to make a few bucks for some folks that have had their paper net-worth go from severl million dollars to nothing as VA stock goes down the toilet.
You know, I really really really want to be your friend. Let's put this all behind us. Send me an email at wrstlgv@yahoo.com
I would love to fuck you up your ass to show you who's the bitch and who's the Master Programmer.
Well, you don't get my humor, and I don't get your music. Maybe we're even?
I had to bust my butt practicing the piano 8+ hours a day for YEARS before people would respect me as a musician.
Kids today just jigger together some software and call it "music".
(How many hours a day does Eminmen practice?)
Well there are a bunch of folks out there who *do* get that pricetag, usually to come in to save a project and mop up the mess that a bunch of kids like you make.
You even proved my point more! You think that, because I'm from the days of puch cards, I'm not familiar with the latest whiz-bang technology. I'll have you know that this latest DOM/XML stuff dates back to the early 70s. I've seen this grow from the beginning.
You would discount my capabilities because I'm a geezeer, and many schlock software companies won't pay experienced programmers the $200K+/year that they deserve. That's why there's so much crappy software out there today.
You're one of those inexperienced, inexpensive "programmers" that's lowering the quality of software because you just keep reinventing--badly--the technologies from 5,10,15,20 years ago.
Remember Java? It found it's niche as a toy/teaching language and as a subititue for Perl (which got a bad rap!) for web middleware.
Remember USCD Pascal? That was write-once run everywhere?
Remember those 4gl languages like Prolog?
Remember PL/I?
Remember RATFOR?
Remember ALGOL?
2. Companies don't want to pay enough $$$ to hire what really counts---EXPERIENCE---so they hire low-cost H1B programmers instead.
3. There's rampant AGE DISCRIMINATION so older experinced software engineers stop prorgamming and become managers, or go into other fields.
I joined an R&D group when I turned 40, after spending years managing software products that have earned billions of $$ in revenue cumulatively over the years. Why? Because I didn't want to be forced into managing products staffed with inexperienced and inexepensive programmers, or be involved with shipping non-glamouous tasks (device drivers, etc) to India.
Or let's give a more moderate example, suppose he was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, an organization that's legally allowed to exist, chose who it wants to be a member, and hold demonstrations.
Now, if this kid was a member of the KKK instead of the Boy Scouts, would you be concerned if the Government didn't do anything to follow up?
And if you would be, why don't you care if it's the Boy Scouts? Personally, I don't see much difference between the two groups, except one gets $$$ and special treatment from the US government and one doesn't.
I support the rights of both the KKK and the BSA to exist.
Let's just meet at the Apple Store! There's really very little difference between the "foamers" I see there thinking different, and the people on /.
I feel sorry for you. Your scoutmaster must have anally raped you as a child and you became gay.
This was not flamebait. WHAT ever HAPPENED TO THE metamoderator
The BSA is a Church for Boys. Even the Supreme Court said as much when they (rightly) said they can discriminate. I don't disagree with that one bit.
Howevever, all other TAX EXEMPT CHRURCHES aren't given special access to military installations, 1000s of acres of land, and the ablility to hire LOBBIESTS in WASHINGTON.
This is a very unusual site, with crude animated gif graphics and a bizarre interface.
But, you can ask it ANY QUESTION in ENGLISH and get an answer (by email) in a few minutes.
I once asked it how it works, and it told me it was a giant parallel neural network consisting of 100s of Linux boxes distributed around the country.
It has some weird training mode where you have to answer a question it asks. I don't know what that's all about either, but I comply.
They never bothered Yahoot!. Though maybe that's because Yahoot has been around since before Yahoo.
It's also a much better source of information than Yahoo is.
Now my karma is down to 99 ;-(
I'll be right over to suck it! HUGUGLGUHGLGUGH!
I love the taste of young 7ee7 h4kr d1ck in my mouth! MMMMMMmmmm Good!