If your boy is a penny-stealing, wanna-be criminal [dramatic pause] man who spends five years in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass penitentiary...... he's more likely to grow up to be a Bad Person?
Class settles down, trouble-maker walks in late and then continues being disruptive, and the rest of the class period is shot.
This is the best argument I've seen so far for why teachers should be allowed to keep a gun in the classroom!
I knew an old man once whose father had grown up in Arizona back when the West was still wild. Little bitty town, one-room school, and the boys had got it figured out that as soon as they ran a new teacher out of town, they got out of school until the grownups managed to find and hire a new teacher. And I guess these little brats were vicious.
So one day, they're back in school with a new teacher, first day, and he's a little short guy with a high, squeaky voice. The boys are tittering because they figure they can get rid of him before the day is out.
"Now children, I was hired to teach school, and that's exactly what I intend to do here," Teacher squeaked, as he pulled back his coattails to reveal a pair of six-shooters. Then he drew both guns and put his initials in the wall at the back of the room.
This is the actual truth about gun ownership in many countries, including Canada and Australia.
I see that you didn't actually bother to READ the part about Canada. No one can exercise his right to self-defense without permission from the Government. That is not a characteristic of a free people.
I suppose if you consider publicly funded health care to be tyranny
Of course it is! Hell-o-o-o-o-o... where do you think the money comes from?
I tend to judge a country's level of freedom and civilization by how well they rape the "rich" (i.e., people who are actually producing goods and services.
Yes, but the original thread is about moving to a place that is MORE free than where the OP is living now. Since Canada doesn't allow its citizens to own firearms (ditto with Australia), and confiscates wealth to pay for other people's healthcare expenses, Canada cannot possibly be considered "free".
Are you claiming the camera does this without consuming any power from the battery?
Of course not.
I am asking you an open question about what you believe
No, you're asking a "have you stopped beating your wife?" question; i.e., one that is filled with faulty assumptions. And I'm not going to feed you, so please stop asking.
you started with an broad attack and better knowing tone.
No, I started with a mild scolding. One of the reasons I (used to) hang out here on/. is that folks here are presumed to be more intelligent than those in the outside world. At least, that's how it used to be. To me,/. has been a place where I could find opinions that had been thought through before posting, rather than the knee-jerk reactions that prevail in general society.
Slashdot has always had its trolls, but in the past they were modded down quickly, with reasoned opinions rising to the top. Now what I'm seeing is knee-jerk "all corporations are evil so we don't have to look for any rational explanation for what they do" thinking. Now reasonable posts are being modded down because they don't agree with some mod's ideology.
Now you are being called out on how a camera is going to perform the check function without using any power and endangering the camera and user, were you seem to accept exactly zero risk.
And you wont answer that.
Because it's a red herring, and I don't feed trolls. If you'd bothered to actually READ the articles to which I linked, you'd know why this question is bullshit.
So using the battery, not recharging it, is enough for it to be potentially dangerous?
Yes.
If so, could you point me to the Battery University article
If it weren't for the fact that you're trolling, I'd just give a straight answer -- even though I've already posted that link above. Too bad you're only interested in starting a fight, rather than having a genuine interest in increasing your knowledge.
Great! Then I suppose they will be following up their move with a drop in their battery prices so that no one has to worry about shelling out insane amounts of cash
Actually RC planes use Lithium Polymer batteries, not lithium ion.
Yes, most use Li-poly -- which is one type of Li-ion battery.
LiPo's are indeed very volatile which is why we don't see them in consumer equipment
Such as Macbooks and iPhones? Oh, of COURSE not....
but Li-ion is a lot different and a lot safer than Lipo
Somewhat different, but not all that much. Li-po is Li-ion with a different electrolyte. Both are safe when manufactured properly, and handled properly. Neither is safe when corners are cut, whether in manufacturing or handling. And apparently there are 3rd party camera battery manufacturers who are cutting corners (I'm not surprised). THEY are the ones you should be accusing of greed, not Panasonic.
Someone made this point before you, politely and to-the-point (http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1280593&cid=28458001). He got a succint answer (and I miss my mod points on both of them), which goes: Have the camera deny to charge the battery, then.
I see that you haven't bothered to read any of the links I posted to Battery University. If you had, you'd know why this idea will not work.
What exactly is the real-life "catch fire and explode" failure rate on lithium-ion batteries anyhow?
It happens quite often, actually. Anyone who's been flying R/C aircraft for any length of time has either seen it or knows someone that it happened to. A friend of mine damn near burned down his house once.
So stop the evil-corporation conspiracy theory bullshit and do a little research. The Battery University is a good place to start.
This is a real safety issue in which real people are being hurt.
Before posting, I read through the comments here to see if ANYONE had a clue regarding the dangers of Lithium Ion (and especially Lithium Polymer) batteries.
Nope. Not a one. Zero, zip, nada. Everyone wants to bash Panasonic rather than do a little research first.
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Pong.
Except the same vulnerability exists for Mac and Linux users
Uh, hold it there, Professor. Not quite.
Unix users have privelege separation.
Well at least the iPhone is safe
+1 Funny!
... when this is used on a blonde?
Venganza.org
Google is your friend. Try "communism 100 million dead"
One hundred million people slaughtered and you get lost when someone calls that "evil"?
So...
If your boy is a penny-stealing, wanna-be criminal [dramatic pause] man who spends five years in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass penitentiary... ... he's more likely to grow up to be a Bad Person?
Fuckin' A, man!
Class settles down, trouble-maker walks in late and then continues being disruptive, and the rest of the class period is shot.
This is the best argument I've seen so far for why teachers should be allowed to keep a gun in the classroom!
I knew an old man once whose father had grown up in Arizona back when the West was still wild. Little bitty town, one-room school, and the boys had got it figured out that as soon as they ran a new teacher out of town, they got out of school until the grownups managed to find and hire a new teacher. And I guess these little brats were vicious.
So one day, they're back in school with a new teacher, first day, and he's a little short guy with a high, squeaky voice. The boys are tittering because they figure they can get rid of him before the day is out.
"Now children, I was hired to teach school, and that's exactly what I intend to do here," Teacher squeaked, as he pulled back his coattails to reveal a pair of six-shooters. Then he drew both guns and put his initials in the wall at the back of the room.
No more trouble.
Prepare them to be burger-flippers? What? Educationally-challenged juvenile criminals should be given access to the same education as everyone else
Whoosh...
According to a new study, if everyone else was committing a crime you would too, at least if you are a Democrat.
There, fixed that for you.
... reclines on the little couch thing, and the shrink starts showing him inkblots.
"What does this make you think of?"
"Sex."
Shrink pulls out the next card. "What does this one make you think of?"
"Sex."
"Hmmm." He pulls out the third card. "And this one?"
"Sex."
"You seem to be obsessed with sex..."
"What do you mean? YOU're the one showing me all the dirty pictures!"
But don't worry something will come along that will figure out how to do DNA insertions in mammals eventually.
Yes, I seem to recall having inserted my DNA into several mammals (which I was able to identify because they had mammaries) when I was younger....
I guess this guy can scratch Canada off of his list, eh?
This is the actual truth about gun ownership in many countries, including Canada and Australia.
I see that you didn't actually bother to READ the part about Canada. No one can exercise his right to self-defense without permission from the Government. That is not a characteristic of a free people.
I suppose if you consider publicly funded health care to be tyranny
Of course it is! Hell-o-o-o-o-o... where do you think the money comes from?
I tend to judge a country's level of freedom and civilization by how well they rape the "rich" (i.e., people who are actually producing goods and services.
There, fixed that for you.
Canada is very welcoming to immigrants
Yes, but the original thread is about moving to a place that is MORE free than where the OP is living now. Since Canada doesn't allow its citizens to own firearms (ditto with Australia), and confiscates wealth to pay for other people's healthcare expenses, Canada cannot possibly be considered "free".
Dude, (or should I say, du-u-u-ude)
You hit the nail right on the head. Too bad you posted AC.
I see you left out, in your infinite mercy, the West Hills / Washington County assholes who think they own the roads and everything else in the world.
Ah, well, still a gem. Copied & pasted to my hard drive for permanent storage.
Are you claiming the camera does this without consuming any power from the battery?
Of course not.
I am asking you an open question about what you believe
No, you're asking a "have you stopped beating your wife?" question; i.e., one that is filled with faulty assumptions. And I'm not going to feed you, so please stop asking.
you started with an broad attack and better knowing tone.
No, I started with a mild scolding. One of the reasons I (used to) hang out here on /. is that folks here are presumed to be more intelligent than those in the outside world. At least, that's how it used to be. To me, /. has been a place where I could find opinions that had been thought through before posting, rather than the knee-jerk reactions that prevail in general society.
Slashdot has always had its trolls, but in the past they were modded down quickly, with reasoned opinions rising to the top. Now what I'm seeing is knee-jerk "all corporations are evil so we don't have to look for any rational explanation for what they do" thinking. Now reasonable posts are being modded down because they don't agree with some mod's ideology.
Now you are being called out on how a camera is going to perform the check function without using any power and endangering the camera and user, were you seem to accept exactly zero risk. And you wont answer that.
Because it's a red herring, and I don't feed trolls. If you'd bothered to actually READ the articles to which I linked, you'd know why this question is bullshit.
So using the battery, not recharging it, is enough for it to be potentially dangerous?
Yes.
If so, could you point me to the Battery University article
If it weren't for the fact that you're trolling, I'd just give a straight answer -- even though I've already posted that link above. Too bad you're only interested in starting a fight, rather than having a genuine interest in increasing your knowledge.
Great! Then I suppose they will be following up their move with a drop in their battery prices so that no one has to worry about shelling out insane amounts of cash
You're new to photography, aren't you?
Actually RC planes use Lithium Polymer batteries, not lithium ion.
Yes, most use Li-poly -- which is one type of Li-ion battery.
LiPo's are indeed very volatile which is why we don't see them in consumer equipment
Such as Macbooks and iPhones? Oh, of COURSE not....
but Li-ion is a lot different and a lot safer than Lipo
Somewhat different, but not all that much. Li-po is Li-ion with a different electrolyte. Both are safe when manufactured properly, and handled properly. Neither is safe when corners are cut, whether in manufacturing or handling. And apparently there are 3rd party camera battery manufacturers who are cutting corners (I'm not surprised). THEY are the ones you should be accusing of greed, not Panasonic.
Someone made this point before you, politely and to-the-point (http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1280593&cid=28458001). He got a succint answer (and I miss my mod points on both of them), which goes: Have the camera deny to charge the battery, then.
I see that you haven't bothered to read any of the links I posted to Battery University. If you had, you'd know why this idea will not work.
What exactly is the real-life "catch fire and explode" failure rate on lithium-ion batteries anyhow?
It happens quite often, actually. Anyone who's been flying R/C aircraft for any length of time has either seen it or knows someone that it happened to. A friend of mine damn near burned down his house once.
So stop the evil-corporation conspiracy theory bullshit and do a little research. The Battery University is a good place to start.
This is a real safety issue in which real people are being hurt.
Before posting, I read through the comments here to see if ANYONE had a clue regarding the dangers of Lithium Ion (and especially Lithium Polymer) batteries.
Nope. Not a one. Zero, zip, nada. Everyone wants to bash Panasonic rather than do a little research first.
Talk about knee-jerk responses.
Listen, Lithium Ion technology is DANGEROUS. It catches fire easily -- very easily -- and destroys everything around it.
Credit Sony, who is one of the pioneers (if not THE pioneer) of Lithium battery safety, for protecting their customers.
Sheesh, you people are as bad as any other herd of sheeple. Not everything that a corporation does is evil.