There is a header field "From" in RFC 822. When they have created the standard they did not know (!?!) that it will be abused. e-signature is the way to protect the standard from such abusing. The law is enforce such protection.
Also, the law is supposed to protect my privacy as part of my freedoms.
You are OK with enforcing you to have auto-insurance, right? And nothing wrong with enforcing you to use your seat belts. And only a criminal will be against enforcing to drive having proper ID (driver license). Because all of that is for our own safity.
So why are you against the law that would improve the safity of our children? Why don't you want to protect them from porno and other bad emails?
Summary: such law (ISP accepts only e-signed emails) is to protect:
A typical mistake of a typical american. A freedom is not necessary about anonimity. And Internet is more about the freedom than about anonimity. The freedom to have an access to available informationa as well as the freedom to communicate with other people.
Why do you want to send anonymous messages? If you are a good guy than you have nothing to hide.
If you want to send an anonymous message to someone (like goverment) than you have to ask the question: "Do they want to recieve anything anonymous?" And answer to yourself: "If they want they may publish a special web page for that."
That's right web access must be anonymous as you don't disturb no one's privacy. Email is not for that - read RFC 822, there is a header field "From" and it's not defined by the standard to abuse that field. So, if you want to communicate by email - forget aboutanonimity, otherwise it's email as defined in RFC 822. If you want anonimity in Internet - use a web UI, if they let you to access without any registration. Isn't it simple?
By the way, if you need your privacy, than you can establish secure communication channels with your friends using encryption (encrypted email, encrypted IM, encrypted tunnels). Just for a case if you mistake anonimity with privacy.
Now, would you prefer an access to the airplane without your ID in order to keep your anonimity or you prefer to fly safe? Actually I don't care your ansfer, b/c I know the answer of the most of the society: safity is more important than anonimity. Again, because anonimity has nothing directly to do with freedoms.
And again, the right of privacy is essential part of my freedoms. So, keep your anonymous messages away from my private mail box. But you are welcome to come anonymously on my web site, which I specially dedicated for that.
to accept email only with correct (recognized and traceable) e-signature;
to give (for free!) e-signing software (for example GPG) to all POP customers;
to give (for free!) e-signing forms for all web-mail customers;
Then:
all email will be traceable;
therefore many temporary spam agents will afraid to spam as they know they are easier to be found and punished;
it will be much easier to implement more robust black and white lists;
therefore, many spam sources will cease their spam operations (and perhaps look for alternative ways to make money) as the spam will be very ineffective na d most likely unprofitable;
Conclusion: e-signature and PKI - that's the only way to clean Internet from spammers!
When are we going to get some new space vehicles, damnit?
I completely against any idea to satisfy your aestetic demands. The spacecraft must do the job - fly up or land down. Safily (not like Shuttles). As for today, Soyuz design is the proof of safity (comparing to Shuttles). Therefore, don't invest money to anything which is more complicated than Soyuz (at least for now).
Speaking about money. Investment (and ROI!) is the biggest problem in the space industry. I would rather ask:
When will we have well-profitable space programms, damnit?
I'm trying to find the word that makes me fear American spacecraft: would it be overengineered? They're way more complex than they need to be to do the job they need to do.
Well said! Now I want to remind Albert Einstein:
"Make things as simple as possible. But not simpler than that."
Somehow I afraid that China space program is based on oversimlified solutions.
After using iMac for much more than a month, I can tell:
floppy is one of the least expensive *AND* the most useless devices for last 5 years in the desktop world. Who need it, if are all networked?
iMac is one of the most expensive *AND* the most useless devices (for that price!) for last 5 years in the desktop world. Do you really want to pay so much money for such few functions when you cannot add new functions?
Having said that, I love Apple PowerBooks and G4 PowerMacs (towers). First one - for their battery life (it's reaally long). Second one - for a good hardware design (it's really optimal combination of extensibility, power, and price).
It's entertainment, nothing more, nothing less. I watch wrestling, but that doesn't mean I solve my problems with violence.
Sure you do. If not with a physical violence then with a mental one. For example, in databases you ignore ACID and that leads you to choose violently unstable MySQL instead of PostgreSQL. In application programming you ignore the elegance of Functional Programming (like pure Haskell) and you have a daily based violence when debugging your imperative Java or C(++) code.
On a serious note, if you have an opportunity to "help" your boss being fired, won't you use it to improve your career chances?
The fact that you think that the word "violence" can be applied only to "physical" actions just proves that your mind is already very deeply corrupted by watching too much of physical violence scenes on TV.
Netscape 4? What year is today? And if you consider Netscape 4 then you may still consider IE4, right?
Just for your information. Today is June 14, 2003. That's right - 2003, already (surprised?). And today people use the current version of Netscape, which is 7. Some of them. Because the most of non-IE users prefer Mozilla. Well, some strange non-IE users prefer to see ads in Opera or to money for the browser, but they are really weird. The other group of strange users prefer a KDE-based browser (which stinks in its standard compliance comparing to Mozilla) - either Konqueror or Safari. But the most of people, those who don't like IE UI, IE standard compliance, IE bugs and IE binding to the single OS, they prefer Mozilla. Which has a very nice tab-based UI, opened sources, the widest range of OS/arch platforms, and of course the best standard compliance.
So, my friend. Time to wake up and tell you customers up front: Mozilla.
Look at Gosling's homepage, especially what he wrote for the picture, where he hits Bill Gates' mask with a cake:
Of course, I couldn't resist joining in the fun. This is a picture of me opening JavaOne'98 about to pie one of the stage hands wearing a Bill Gates mask.
It just proves that on a top of Sun management, their major beleif is in hate. They hate enimies: the other Unix companies, Microsoft, now Linux.
I don't love Microsoft either, but I would consider myself as a psyco if I would dream of hitting the face of Bill Gates with a cake.
Now, why are we listening to him? What kind of smart ideas are in his proposals? Generic programming with self-reflections? It's done for decades in Lisp and MOP. Syntax-free programming language? It's alreadydone in FlatCurry (Curry is LP ancestor of FP language Haskell).
What he is done? Besides Java, everything else he's invented is dead. Java is designed conceptually so badly that it survives only due to a huge money investment from Sun. All his dreams about Java on the thin-client side are dead: web-designers prefer Flash rather than Java Applets. SWING is dead. The only place where Java is still demanded (by whom? by non-programming hype-addicted managers?) is the server room with Solaris servers (no wonder, huh?).
By the way, he was one of who killed Tcl (the best scripting language of that time (1995) b/c it was extremely extensible, i.e. OOP, FP, tcl2c, extensions), by kicking out the project of John Osterought, the Tcl inventor who worked for Sun that time.
Now all he is doing is reading old (and thus not very well known among the public) LISP/MOP books as well as academic FlatCurry papers (also not very well known) and stealing ideas for his Jackpod project.
I think they will fire him for such thoughts. But he shouldn't worry. Active State may consider to extend him a job offer. After all he'd rather join the process of Python's rapid evolving than fixing bugs in JVM-beast.
Yeah, yeah, OK, I admit, I only actually ever worked in Scheme, and very basic Scheme at that.
That explains a lot of what you were saying here. While Lisp has one of the biggest language reports, Scheme reports is one of shortest. Both among all programming languages.
No offense, BTW. I've just tried to explain the major difference between Lisp and Scheme.
1. Because OS X has things going for it that Linux/PPC doesn't (and vice-versa).
In both systems you can exchange email, surf the web, format documents and write programs. So, there is no point here to wait and then to pay money.
2. Because I buy my Linux disks anyway: someone has to pay for development.
That's your personal problem. Most of Linux users don't do that. They download isos. Linux model of making money is corporate oriented consulting.
3. Because who says I should be limited to one OS? I use Linux for some things, and I use OS X for others, and even (shudder) Windows for others.
I am not sure you can run Windows on the same computer as OSX. Unless you use VirtualPC, of course:) Besides, I don't see 64-bit support in Windows around me. You?
But the point was not to limit you with one OS. The point was to give you more freedom. One more time: wiat wait and then pay money while you can already use 64 bit now.
The major OS Upgrade to 64 bits will happen in a few more months - either way, I expect that OS 10.3 will cost another $50 - $100 (depending on how they do it).
Why wait and why pay money if you can install Linux/PPC on it?
Macros are not necessary for making Generic programming. Last time I've checked Haskell didn't have macros. But I did Generic programming using Abstract Data Types.
Of course, having said that, I didn't begun to love Java yet: it still has got neither macros nor ADT.
Anyway psgml mode under Emacs does a fairly good job. Add in nsgmls and xmlint and things are fairly good.
Which of those modes does support XML Schema? Don't tell me about DTD. Today XML development is impossible without XML Schema. So, please do not mislead XML newbies about psgml being any useful.
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Also, the law is supposed to protect my privacy as part of my freedoms.
You are OK with enforcing you to have auto-insurance, right? And nothing wrong with enforcing you to use your seat belts. And only a criminal will be against enforcing to drive having proper ID (driver license). Because all of that is for our own safity.
So why are you against the law that would improve the safity of our children? Why don't you want to protect them from porno and other bad emails?
Summary: such law (ISP accepts only e-signed emails) is to protect:
- our children;
- our privacy;
- our standards;
Got it?Why do you want to send anonymous messages? If you are a good guy than you have nothing to hide.
If you want to send an anonymous message to someone (like goverment) than you have to ask the question: "Do they want to recieve anything anonymous?" And answer to yourself: "If they want they may publish a special web page for that."
That's right web access must be anonymous as you don't disturb no one's privacy. Email is not for that - read RFC 822, there is a header field "From" and it's not defined by the standard to abuse that field. So, if you want to communicate by email - forget aboutanonimity, otherwise it's email as defined in RFC 822. If you want anonimity in Internet - use a web UI, if they let you to access without any registration. Isn't it simple?
By the way, if you need your privacy, than you can establish secure communication channels with your friends using encryption (encrypted email, encrypted IM, encrypted tunnels). Just for a case if you mistake anonimity with privacy.
Now, would you prefer an access to the airplane without your ID in order to keep your anonimity or you prefer to fly safe? Actually I don't care your ansfer, b/c I know the answer of the most of the society: safity is more important than anonimity. Again, because anonimity has nothing directly to do with freedoms.
And again, the right of privacy is essential part of my freedoms. So, keep your anonymous messages away from my private mail box. But you are welcome to come anonymously on my web site, which I specially dedicated for that.
Well, why do we need any laws anyway?
- to accept email only with correct (recognized and traceable) e-signature;
- to give (for free!) e-signing software (for example GPG) to all POP customers;
- to give (for free!) e-signing forms for all web-mail customers;
Then:- all email will be traceable;
- therefore many temporary spam agents will afraid to spam as they know they are easier to be found and punished;
- it will be much easier to implement more robust black and white lists;
- therefore, many spam sources will cease their spam operations (and perhaps look for alternative ways to make money) as the spam will be very ineffective na d most likely unprofitable;
Conclusion: e-signature and PKI - that's the only way to clean Internet from spammers!I completely against any idea to satisfy your aestetic demands. The spacecraft must do the job - fly up or land down. Safily (not like Shuttles). As for today, Soyuz design is the proof of safity (comparing to Shuttles). Therefore, don't invest money to anything which is more complicated than Soyuz (at least for now).
Speaking about money. Investment (and ROI!) is the biggest problem in the space industry. I would rather ask:
When will we have well-profitable space programms, damnit?
Well said! Now I want to remind Albert Einstein:
Somehow I afraid that China space program is based on oversimlified solutions.
- floppy is one of the least expensive *AND* the most useless devices for last 5 years in the desktop world. Who need it, if are all networked?
- iMac is one of the most expensive *AND* the most useless devices (for that price!) for last 5 years in the desktop world. Do you really want to pay so much money for such few functions when you cannot add new functions?
Having said that, I love Apple PowerBooks and G4 PowerMacs (towers). First one - for their battery life (it's reaally long). Second one - for a good hardware design (it's really optimal combination of extensibility, power, and price).Sure you do. If not with a physical violence then with a mental one. For example, in databases you ignore ACID and that leads you to choose violently unstable MySQL instead of PostgreSQL. In application programming you ignore the elegance of Functional Programming (like pure Haskell) and you have a daily based violence when debugging your imperative Java or C(++) code.
On a serious note, if you have an opportunity to "help" your boss being fired, won't you use it to improve your career chances?
The fact that you think that the word "violence" can be applied only to "physical" actions just proves that your mind is already very deeply corrupted by watching too much of physical violence scenes on TV.
- Java
- Flash
- Quicktime
- MP3
- DVD
- PDF
- Postscript
Are they out of luck n Brazil govt's 80% computers?Just for your information. Today is June 14, 2003. That's right - 2003, already (surprised?). And today people use the current version of Netscape, which is 7. Some of them. Because the most of non-IE users prefer Mozilla. Well, some strange non-IE users prefer to see ads in Opera or to money for the browser, but they are really weird. The other group of strange users prefer a KDE-based browser (which stinks in its standard compliance comparing to Mozilla) - either Konqueror or Safari. But the most of people, those who don't like IE UI, IE standard compliance, IE bugs and IE binding to the single OS, they prefer Mozilla. Which has a very nice tab-based UI, opened sources, the widest range of OS/arch platforms, and of course the best standard compliance.
So, my friend. Time to wake up and tell you customers up front: Mozilla.
Of course, I couldn't resist joining in the fun. This is a picture of me opening JavaOne'98 about to pie one of the stage hands wearing a Bill Gates mask.
It just proves that on a top of Sun management, their major beleif is in hate. They hate enimies: the other Unix companies, Microsoft, now Linux.
I don't love Microsoft either, but I would consider myself as a psyco if I would dream of hitting the face of Bill Gates with a cake.
Now, why are we listening to him? What kind of smart ideas are in his proposals? Generic programming with self-reflections? It's done for decades in Lisp and MOP. Syntax-free programming language? It's alreadydone in FlatCurry (Curry is LP ancestor of FP language Haskell).
What he is done? Besides Java, everything else he's invented is dead. Java is designed conceptually so badly that it survives only due to a huge money investment from Sun. All his dreams about Java on the thin-client side are dead: web-designers prefer Flash rather than Java Applets. SWING is dead. The only place where Java is still demanded (by whom? by non-programming hype-addicted managers?) is the server room with Solaris servers (no wonder, huh?).
By the way, he was one of who killed Tcl (the best scripting language of that time (1995) b/c it was extremely extensible, i.e. OOP, FP, tcl2c, extensions), by kicking out the project of John Osterought, the Tcl inventor who worked for Sun that time.
Now all he is doing is reading old (and thus not very well known among the public) LISP/MOP books as well as academic FlatCurry papers (also not very well known) and stealing ideas for his Jackpod project.
I think they will fire him for such thoughts. But he shouldn't worry. Active State may consider to extend him a job offer. After all he'd rather join the process of Python's rapid evolving than fixing bugs in JVM-beast.
That explains a lot of what you were saying here. While Lisp has one of the biggest language reports, Scheme reports is one of shortest. Both among all programming languages.
No offense, BTW. I've just tried to explain the major difference between Lisp and Scheme.
enjoy Java applets
Enjoy your mozilla crashing on most of applets.
Of the 20 Wall Street analysts who cover Sun, only one rates the company a buy.
I wonder if it's b/c of the whole market is down (means "do not buy anything!") or they really advise to re-invest from Sun to something else.
Well, untill 2.6.4 or something I am going to download new 2.4.x patches anyway. I guess I am not alone in it.
Before TV era people loved to read. Now the most what they read is rarely appeared words on their TV screens.
Stupidity and laziness is the cancer of the North America.
In both systems you can exchange email, surf the web, format documents and write programs. So, there is no point here to wait and then to pay money.
2. Because I buy my Linux disks anyway: someone has to pay for development.
That's your personal problem. Most of Linux users don't do that. They download isos. Linux model of making money is corporate oriented consulting.
3. Because who says I should be limited to one OS? I use Linux for some things, and I use OS X for others, and even (shudder) Windows for others.
I am not sure you can run Windows on the same computer as OSX. Unless you use VirtualPC, of course :) Besides, I don't see 64-bit support in Windows around me. You?
But the point was not to limit you with one OS. The point was to give you more freedom. One more time: wiat wait and then pay money while you can already use 64 bit now.
Doesn't it run on IBM 64-bit PPC (RS6K) workstations for years?
Why wait and why pay money if you can install Linux/PPC on it?
Of course, having said that, I didn't begun to love Java yet: it still has got neither macros nor ADT.
Which of those modes does support XML Schema? Don't tell me about DTD. Today XML development is impossible without XML Schema. So, please do not mislead XML newbies about psgml being any useful.
Who cares about DTD? Today XML developmenet is impossible without extensive usage of XML Schema.
I think it's a shame that such a good editor (based on such a good language as Lisp) doesn't support XML Schema.
What's wrong with Friday 13?
Especially Gentoo LiveCD :))