Im not about left up to the consumer. Unwashed Joe does not understand DRM, nor Palladium, nor TCPA. So he will buy whatever motherboard has the most marketing hype. A roll out of TCPA enabled devices, along with a rapid phase out of non-TCPA devices would give the consumer little or no choice... I can think of a few examples of this happening before...
For anyone buying computers with this tech enabled- whats in it for us? Beyond not being given the choice (Ie Roll out of TCPA only Mobos etc) - why else would we choose this?
You know - we probably wont even see it in the uk. Even if we were in the right place under the sky - we have the kind of pissing rain and cloud cover that makes BC look like a summers day..
When you think of England - think of pants transport and pissing rain and wind...
How does a chunky thumb sized pixel with 2 bit color screen grab movie take up 21mb or 89mb? THats just unreal... I think an emulator would have done...
Its funy- I work on a computer game which did pretty well - but was mostly let down by poor marketing. Marketing in the right places at the right time is something none of them ever seemed to understand. Thinkgeek and Sourceforge banners go down well at slashdot- but huge numbnut mortgage adverts are totally out of place. But X10, doubleclick and treeloot ads are automatically killed by either mozilla or noads - http://www.southbaypc.com/free_utilities.asp.
Im loosing mod rights for this...
But it appears you have *completely* missed the point. 2 Gigahertz is just a clock speed. Simply that. How many ticks, per second, does the processor run at. But real speed- speed you would feel running real applications to use it(I dont mean word, IE and Outlook - more like rendering, simulation, AI, massive data processing etc) comes from how much it does in a clock cycle. If you could do a 1 cycle 128bit floating point square root - or even four simultaneously in one cycle - that would make a HUGE difference in speed. Much bigger than doubling the clock speed. And without needing extra cooling, more power, becoming less reliable etc.. The same with floating point division. If you look at pure clock speed to judge a processors performance - I am sure you could pay some fool to give you a 4004 at 8GHz. Though what you would use it for is beyond me- a modern Athlon or P4 at 1Ghz would still do more.
Amusing as you little exchange was... hehe.. Surely he has a point when using Eric cartman as a nick, you should at least not flame him in regards to your ignorance on the subject. Granted, missing Southpark is neither life threatening nor makes you inferior, but at least be careful before throwing around remarks about someone being racist, and then continuing to wind them up. I can see how much fun you are having - but let it go. You are just making yourself look silly... Saying that, where would my dreary monday afternoon be without some comedian on slashdot....
So why not whip up a ready to roll MySQL/Php system and GPL it. Then its easily customized but comes a complete system...
Nice.
For my MySQL projects I make sure I use a reasonably unique database name, and use a makefile to launch create scripts and pipe the outputs to logs.
Umm - One of the reasons people like linux is that we can trust the companies responsible - or at least we would like to beleive that. Doing this obviously means you can no longer trust the company or the government. Are you telling me you totally trust microsoft? Anyhow - Linux is not quite about money in the same ways windows is. Windows is more about shove out the door and see what the idiots will pay for it than delivering quality. Since most linux people are voluntary open sourcers - they are much more worried about actual stability and real functionality.
But at the end of the day your comment is off-topic - what has this really got to do with Linux - this is a discussion about trust, and although Linux is an example of open-source its not the only example.
I used to use one at work once- a K6-3 based one(things have moved on)... I wonder if you can get them to work with a standard PC's PCI bus? That would rock...
You know, somewhere I have an old research machines RML 380z in peices. Unfortunately - quite a few. However it does have two functioning full height 5.25 inch floppy drives - man thats old tech....
Half hieght drive bays... Hehe... Anyone here ever seen an 8 inch diskette? Me neither...
What I find great is that I have solid state flash memory cards that I use in my camera, 4x smaller, a hell of a lot more reliable and almost 10,000 times the capacity of the old floppies. My two newest machines do not even have a floppy, not even a zip. Just NIC and CDRW.
Does this mean we are really not far off having a car KITT? THat would be some case mod- you know flashy led's and all- maybe a few more neons and stuff... Case window? Hah I got a sun roof! Hehe...;-)
I want to build a robot with an entire embedded PC. I which case, the tiny size and the 12v supply make this ideal. Even the shuttle is too big. I have already started designing the OS, and this is just what I need. The OS is a stripped down Linux dist BTW. I could pack one(or more) of these in the case, one WI-FI card and have a client machine do the dirty work using SSH.
My big concerns is the heat output, noise output(there may be some ultrasonic sensors) and actual power consumption. 12v does not sound much - but at how many amps(I do hope we are talking mA)?
I am gonna have to read the artical again methinks...
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Yet again- in perpective. When you only use it twice a day to work and back, when are you gonna need more than an hours journey except for exceptional cases? In which case you HIRE something bigger....
The EV1 could only drive an hour or so before having to be recharged. As a vehicle, it was useless. As an economic venture on Ford's part, it was even more useless. (Yes, believe it or not, Ford is in the business of making money.)
But it wasnt an economic venture on Fords part, it was somebady elses. They bought the EV1 off of a smaller company, did not even attempt to market it(I only new of it from slashdot and other SIGs) and then killed it. Since Ford were part of the Coalition that blocked the Kyoto treaty, one would surmise that it is in their interests to keep the fuel co's happy.
Hills do not exactly obstruct tube systems. Number 1- London is not exactly flat, and number 2 - unless they are very iron rich and rocky mountains with extremely solid or volcanic foundations, then tunnelling right through is not impossible.
Unlike Fix Or Repair Daily.
I thought the philosophy American Engineering was make it as big, brash and loud as possible to prove something?
Who else sell 8 litre cars to Office workers and geeks? In most of Europe - 3 litres is seen as excess...
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Now i understand that its tough to fit the Brady Bunch into a single car.. but do you use that SUV to go to work and back every day? Using such a large vehical for one person is a complete waste of energy. I admit- living in London I really cant stand large cars. Theres little enough room on the roads as it is - but I get so frustrated watching people going to work - 1 per vehical and some annnoyingly large vehicals with just one occupant. I see this because I occasionally take the bus when I have enough time not to need the tube. I hate being in a bus stuck behind a*****les in 4wd's and SUV's coming home from their office deskjob - whats their point?
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you mean after being rigged, major exclusions of certain cross sections of the public, numerous recountings and admissions of inaccuracies, a public too illiterate to understand voting. Umm - the George Bush vote was a farce in the worlds eyes... You mean some Americans actually thought he got in fair and square?
Anyway- this is almost off topic, except to state that George Bush has some very well known and reasonably advertised links with the Oil Industry (understating). Remember how Ford bought the EV1 and shelved it. Before people troll about how useless it was to have to leave it plugged in those eight hours a day you are sleeping and dont use it, or those eight hours a day you are working and dont use it - it might not be for everyone but for some of us it was a great alternative.
There are two main reasons that petrol is the most widely used vehical fuel:
1) The oil/petrochemical companies are the richest economy in the world - yes even more than Bill Gates. There are economies that would collapse if a safe, clean, cheap and efficient alternative presented itself overnight. These peole's livelyhoods and entire reputations are at stake. Why would it seem so odd that they would go to extreme lengths to preserve their legacy.. As much as I am an idealist- if I was in that position i would probably do the same - who wants to have to go back down....
2) The American public. Yes call me what you like but they drive the biggest cars, the move the least on environmental issues. The American nation decided to ignore, abstain or even counteract many environmental treaties while the whole world - even China - signed them. The British public have slightly better attitudes, and drive smaller cars which are slightly more fuel efficient. The germans have some excellent concerns. In fact on my short stay (coding contract) almmost everything in the four companies I was visiting was recycled. Stinking petrol cars- I dont think so. Most people either cycled, or grouped together in deisel cars. Public transport was much cleaner and safer than any I have seen with a notable security presence and much more efficient trains. Even on a friday night at rush hour in city locations in munich you could get on a train without being force to placce your cheek in a fat guys armpits. I am sorry- but on environmental issues - Americans embaress the rest of the world.... George W most of all...
I just checked. DIP32 2mb and 4mb flashroms are fairly cheap from MAPLIN.
Also readily available for free from useless old mobos.
Anyone in london wanna ditch MOBOs? Give 'em to me!! Yay!
How about giving him community service for eighty years... Like have him working in recylcing or public services after he served the sentance....
Though you still have the probelm of him being a firebug...Worrying...Imagine a newspaper recycling warehouse - I once worked in one for a summer job. Beleive me- 30+ tonnes of dry newspaper is gonna burn pretty well(except the super-compressed damp stuff at the very bottom of the heap).
Anyone got good ideas for a safe work envronment - building ice hotels(think James Bond - hehehehe)? Yeah - you just try setting fire to all that ice!!
Does this mean- with the aid of the bios switcher - that by using a shitty mobo with support for 256kb (or larger) bios chips, I have a very heavy duty eprommer?
I was just going to lurk and mod- but this was far too interesting to miss. I build robots and other inventions, and good eprommers and good epromming software costs a fair bit. But this could be a great hack. Use my favourite editor and mod a compiler for which ever CPU/PLC I am using, and flash a compatible chip like it was a BIOS. Is this possible? are their standard eproms that could be used in these slots readily....
My god I think I need a cold shower - I never even thought of that.
Well - If you live in the uk, and have old computer gear - with the exception of CRT's I can use it. Rip it to peices and use teh components to build robots.
Of course the cases are then usable in the scrapheap for larger projects. Anyone here watch scrapheap challenge?
There are people I know to whom anything above a 100mhz p1 with 12mb is an upgrade....
Also you should check how much even older gear sells for on ebay. Theres always another use for stuff if you look hard enough....
I agree that one way or another, the manufacturer, and the consumer should share the cost and responsibility of recylcling the stuff.
"Hi My name is "Osama Bin laden". I like what I do, and I'll never quit, despite being the worlds most hated man, having most of the worlds armies after my head on a plate and chaffing my testes on my ridiculus beard daily."
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Im not about left up to the consumer. Unwashed Joe does not understand DRM, nor Palladium, nor TCPA. So he will buy whatever motherboard has the most marketing hype. A roll out of TCPA enabled devices, along with a rapid phase out of non-TCPA devices would give the consumer little or no choice... I can think of a few examples of this happening before...
For anyone buying computers with this tech enabled- whats in it for us? Beyond not being given the choice (Ie Roll out of TCPA only Mobos etc) - why else would we choose this?
You know - we probably wont even see it in the uk. Even if we were in the right place under the sky - we have the kind of pissing rain and cloud cover that makes BC look like a summers day..
When you think of England - think of pants transport and pissing rain and wind...
How does a chunky thumb sized pixel with 2 bit color screen grab movie take up 21mb or 89mb? THats just unreal... I think an emulator would have done...
Its funy- I work on a computer game which did pretty well - but was mostly let down by poor marketing. Marketing in the right places at the right time is something none of them ever seemed to understand. Thinkgeek and Sourceforge banners go down well at slashdot- but huge numbnut mortgage adverts are totally out of place. But X10, doubleclick and treeloot ads are automatically killed by either mozilla or noads - http://www.southbaypc.com/free_utilities.asp.
Im loosing mod rights for this...
But it appears you have *completely* missed the point. 2 Gigahertz is just a clock speed. Simply that. How many ticks, per second, does the processor run at. But real speed- speed you would feel running real applications to use it(I dont mean word, IE and Outlook - more like rendering, simulation, AI, massive data processing etc) comes from how much it does in a clock cycle. If you could do a 1 cycle 128bit floating point square root - or even four simultaneously in one cycle - that would make a HUGE difference in speed. Much bigger than doubling the clock speed. And without needing extra cooling, more power, becoming less reliable etc.. The same with floating point division. If you look at pure clock speed to judge a processors performance - I am sure you could pay some fool to give you a 4004 at 8GHz. Though what you would use it for is beyond me- a modern Athlon or P4 at 1Ghz would still do more.
Amusing as you little exchange was... hehe.. Surely he has a point when using Eric cartman as a nick, you should at least not flame him in regards to your ignorance on the subject. Granted, missing Southpark is neither life threatening nor makes you inferior, but at least be careful before throwing around remarks about someone being racist, and then continuing to wind them up. I can see how much fun you are having - but let it go. You are just making yourself look silly... Saying that, where would my dreary monday afternoon be without some comedian on slashdot....
So why not whip up a ready to roll MySQL/Php system and GPL it. Then its easily customized but comes a complete system...
Nice.
For my MySQL projects I make sure I use a reasonably unique database name, and use a makefile to launch create scripts and pipe the outputs to logs.
Nice - I love this idea.... Lets see how far we can take this...
Microsoft? IBM? Enron? Railtrak... Nice...
Umm - One of the reasons people like linux is that we can trust the companies responsible - or at least we would like to beleive that. Doing this obviously means you can no longer trust the company or the government. Are you telling me you totally trust microsoft? Anyhow - Linux is not quite about money in the same ways windows is. Windows is more about shove out the door and see what the idiots will pay for it than delivering quality. Since most linux people are voluntary open sourcers - they are much more worried about actual stability and real functionality.
But at the end of the day your comment is off-topic - what has this really got to do with Linux - this is a discussion about trust, and although Linux is an example of open-source its not the only example.
I used to use one at work once- a K6-3 based one(things have moved on)... I wonder if you can get them to work with a standard PC's PCI bus? That would rock...
You know, somewhere I have an old research machines RML 380z in peices. Unfortunately - quite a few. However it does have two functioning full height 5.25 inch floppy drives - man thats old tech....
Half hieght drive bays... Hehe... Anyone here ever seen an 8 inch diskette? Me neither...
What I find great is that I have solid state flash memory cards that I use in my camera, 4x smaller, a hell of a lot more reliable and almost 10,000 times the capacity of the old floppies. My two newest machines do not even have a floppy, not even a zip. Just NIC and CDRW.
Does this mean we are really not far off having a car KITT? THat would be some case mod- you know flashy led's and all- maybe a few more neons and stuff... Case window? Hah I got a sun roof! Hehe...;-)
I want to build a robot with an entire embedded PC. I which case, the tiny size and the 12v supply make this ideal. Even the shuttle is too big. I have already started designing the OS, and this is just what I need. The OS is a stripped down Linux dist BTW. I could pack one(or more) of these in the case, one WI-FI card and have a client machine do the dirty work using SSH.
My big concerns is the heat output, noise output(there may be some ultrasonic sensors) and actual power consumption. 12v does not sound much - but at how many amps(I do hope we are talking mA)?
I am gonna have to read the artical again methinks...
But it wasnt an economic venture on Fords part, it was somebady elses. They bought the EV1 off of a smaller company, did not even attempt to market it(I only new of it from slashdot and other SIGs) and then killed it. Since Ford were part of the Coalition that blocked the Kyoto treaty, one would surmise that it is in their interests to keep the fuel co's happy.
Hills do not exactly obstruct tube systems. Number 1- London is not exactly flat, and number 2 - unless they are very iron rich and rocky mountains with extremely solid or volcanic foundations, then tunnelling right through is not impossible.
Where can I get one in the Uk? I want one!! Nice... I have already got me a network adaptor...
Unlike Fix Or Repair Daily.
I thought the philosophy American Engineering was make it as big, brash and loud as possible to prove something? Who else sell 8 litre cars to Office workers and geeks? In most of Europe - 3 litres is seen as excess...
Now i understand that its tough to fit the Brady Bunch into a single car.. but do you use that SUV to go to work and back every day? Using such a large vehical for one person is a complete waste of energy. I admit- living in London I really cant stand large cars. Theres little enough room on the roads as it is - but I get so frustrated watching people going to work - 1 per vehical and some annnoyingly large vehicals with just one occupant. I see this because I occasionally take the bus when I have enough time not to need the tube. I hate being in a bus stuck behind a*****les in 4wd's and SUV's coming home from their office deskjob - whats their point?
you mean after being rigged, major exclusions of certain cross sections of the public, numerous recountings and admissions of inaccuracies, a public too illiterate to understand voting. Umm - the George Bush vote was a farce in the worlds eyes... You mean some Americans actually thought he got in fair and square?
Anyway- this is almost off topic, except to state that George Bush has some very well known and reasonably advertised links with the Oil Industry (understating). Remember how Ford bought the EV1 and shelved it. Before people troll about how useless it was to have to leave it plugged in those eight hours a day you are sleeping and dont use it, or those eight hours a day you are working and dont use it - it might not be for everyone but for some of us it was a great alternative.
There are two main reasons that petrol is the most widely used vehical fuel: 1) The oil/petrochemical companies are the richest economy in the world - yes even more than Bill Gates. There are economies that would collapse if a safe, clean, cheap and efficient alternative presented itself overnight. These peole's livelyhoods and entire reputations are at stake. Why would it seem so odd that they would go to extreme lengths to preserve their legacy.. As much as I am an idealist- if I was in that position i would probably do the same - who wants to have to go back down....
2) The American public. Yes call me what you like but they drive the biggest cars, the move the least on environmental issues. The American nation decided to ignore, abstain or even counteract many environmental treaties while the whole world - even China - signed them. The British public have slightly better attitudes, and drive smaller cars which are slightly more fuel efficient. The germans have some excellent concerns. In fact on my short stay (coding contract) almmost everything in the four companies I was visiting was recycled. Stinking petrol cars- I dont think so. Most people either cycled, or grouped together in deisel cars. Public transport was much cleaner and safer than any I have seen with a notable security presence and much more efficient trains. Even on a friday night at rush hour in city locations in munich you could get on a train without being force to placce your cheek in a fat guys armpits. I am sorry- but on environmental issues - Americans embaress the rest of the world.... George W most of all...
I just checked. DIP32 2mb and 4mb flashroms are fairly cheap from MAPLIN.
Also readily available for free from useless old mobos.
Anyone in london wanna ditch MOBOs? Give 'em to me!! Yay!
How about giving him community service for eighty years... Like have him working in recylcing or public services after he served the sentance.... Though you still have the probelm of him being a firebug...Worrying...Imagine a newspaper recycling warehouse - I once worked in one for a summer job. Beleive me- 30+ tonnes of dry newspaper is gonna burn pretty well(except the super-compressed damp stuff at the very bottom of the heap).
Anyone got good ideas for a safe work envronment - building ice hotels(think James Bond - hehehehe)? Yeah - you just try setting fire to all that ice!!
Does this mean- with the aid of the bios switcher - that by using a shitty mobo with support for 256kb (or larger) bios chips, I have a very heavy duty eprommer?
I was just going to lurk and mod- but this was far too interesting to miss. I build robots and other inventions, and good eprommers and good epromming software costs a fair bit. But this could be a great hack. Use my favourite editor and mod a compiler for which ever CPU/PLC I am using, and flash a compatible chip like it was a BIOS. Is this possible? are their standard eproms that could be used in these slots readily....
My god I think I need a cold shower - I never even thought of that.
Well - If you live in the uk, and have old computer gear - with the exception of CRT's I can use it. Rip it to peices and use teh components to build robots.
Especially BEAM robots.
Of course the cases are then usable in the scrapheap for larger projects. Anyone here watch scrapheap challenge?
There are people I know to whom anything above a 100mhz p1 with 12mb is an upgrade....
Also you should check how much even older gear sells for on ebay. Theres always another use for stuff if you look hard enough.... I agree that one way or another, the manufacturer, and the consumer should share the cost and responsibility of recylcling the stuff.
So use mozilla - its not that hard....
"Hi My name is "Osama Bin laden". I like what I do, and I'll never quit, despite being the worlds most hated man, having most of the worlds armies after my head on a plate and chaffing my testes on my ridiculus beard daily."