so, saying "constructing arcane rube goldberg devices" is the latest buzz word, huh ?
admit it, you don't know what all of those "$"s and "@"s mean, and you are afraid of them... they might sneak up on you in the night and make you think....
Perl is great for quick and dirty hacks, bugzilla was written using perl, which says a lot, I know of corporate projects written (and work!) in perl.
So you heard someone says "this is an unmaintainable language" and from there on you chatter the mantra..
And what other languages?? I write C and C++ (the fastest languages out there, as far as I know, except assembly) - are they more maintainable than perl? no. why not? because for each line in perl I need to write 10-15 lines of code in C and about 10 lines in C++... which means the complexity level is much higher, therefor - more maintenance is needed. why do people use C/C++ ? because its fast.
So , what other languages? JAVA - first let them implement templates. Scheme/Prolog/Lisp - find an expert in one of those and then try to replace HIM... Visual Basic? unmaintainable, not to mention proprietary. Delphy? A language used by too few, not widely excepted. PHP/ASP/whatever ? yeah, try maintaining those...
A wise man once said, there is no silver bullet. there is no bug free computer language.
In 1984 (by George Orwell) *everyone* is being traced *all the time*.
I just wonder if this is going to be the same as the MP3 , DIVX and other freely available technologies been so far - When will they learn you can't stop progress, sometimes its good for the musicians (the invention of CD Roms), sometimes its good for the customer (ogg)
Projectionist A: What do you mean you didn't get the second part of the movie??? Projectionist B: I donno man.. they just gave me this box and said this is it... Projectionist A: Great, now what do we do ??? Projectionist B: Well.. there is always kazaa...
a unified look and feel to both Gnome and KDE will be great. I would even go further to suggest that someone should write a book in the lines of the M$ book of standards (its a book full of "thats how a window should look like" and "thats how a button should look like" etc.) for the linux environment.
I know this is sort of a blasphemy, after all - linux is about tweaking, but nevertheless its quite irritating to use middle mouse to paste in one program, ctrl-v in the other and shift-insert in the third , without any way of deciding or even a way to know in advance.
just my 2 cents...
it had been written originally by people unfamiliar with programming in the Un*x environment
What do you mean by unfamiliarity with environments? I am a windows programmer who write programs for Solaris as well. I haven't seen any difference in the implementation (except for the obvious win32 / POSIX differences). Please tell me more.
1.Never trust code you haven't audited yourself. I had a daemon running on my servers that was allowing remote root logins and I didn't even know it.
.. Or simply use a programming language which doesn't go deep enough to cause problems (some "sand boxed" pl).
Customers are WAY too trusting of vendors.
... That is correct, but what else can they do? there is so much one can learn in a life time, so if someone went and specialized in customer service for example, he wouldn't have the time to learning how to program, and obviously not enough time to learn how to code well.
Anybody else remember SGI and Microsoft started working on a 3D API standard called Fahrenheit ?[news.com]
I do because I was in the announcement...
Microsoft was supposed to bring their "vast knowledge of different hardware" and SGI their "vast knowledge in 3D APIs".
Why no one heard about it since? because the whole thing was scrapped. Microsoft bailed (assuming to develop DirectX 8...) and SGI continued work on OpenGL standard.
Microsoft's business plan is something in the lines of "let's take some one else bright ideas and implement them better" (which is actually what the SGI representative said in that announcement, in a more diplomatic way..).
So Microsoft is trying to do something new, innovative and brilliant with DirectX 10... who knows, maybe it will work.. but taking into consideration the limits of this field (hey, DirectX 7,8 and 9 are all about the equivalent of extensions in OpenGL, made more readable through APIs) I doubt it, moreover - DirectX is not multi platform, which is strange seeing how much M$ is putting into.net...
It has to mix with air before it becomes dangerous
Sorry... but isn't that exactly what the fuel cell does? in a *closed space* ?
Doesn't that mean that the two elements get mixed and all that is left is a spark?
Same here.
I am using dual boot Win2K/RedHat 7.3 at home and Win2K at work. Best OS I ever used. Easy maintainability and lite - as opposed from WinXP (why do I need all of this graphics for? the old clock was OK...)
MS OSs are there so you will have something new to pay for.. it's MSs main problem now - how to go forward where the Hardware market stays at one place...
yes... I can see it already...
A huge army coming to conquire your loings with burns never seen before
It gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "The Burning smell of war"...
Here are a couple of reasons why the reduced warranty:
1. Warranty costs money. By reducing the warranty time the cost of the HD can be lowered.
2. The drives are of poor quality. IBM recently had a line of bad HDs, for example (they are not in the HD business anymore, but now the company who bought the technology might have the same problems).
3. The storage capacity getting big all of the time , remember how 15 years ago 50MB disk was a lot? how it was "all you needed"?
4. This might be a ploy to get OEM manufacturers to lower their warranty time and then everything will come with 1 year top.
- but try explaining how to watch TV to a visiting relative
You said it. but I get the point, its nice to have one thing to govern everything.
The only problem I can see here is that using a PC for that might hinder the functionality of the computer (to some degree).
The question is why would anyone like to have one machine controling everything.
In my expirience the more things controled from the center the more problems it will create to try and get a hold of each one.
... I had a long thing here explaining everything, but why bore you?...
good for programmers .. As someone who programs in the *nix environment I can attest to the spartan way in which things are handled there in comparison to m$ windowz.
Sorry folks. until a decent IDE is published msdev is the best.
Just got modded down to bad today. so I know what I am talking about.
moderation will not work .
first - all users will have to identify themselves and stick with that login - which is in essence exactly the opposite of what you would expect from an open p2p network.
second, how would you moderate? by framing something in moderation codes you practicly give the administration of your country a legal way of saying "mod the people who break the law down !!", in such case, who wants to use p2p in the first place ?
By trying to deactivate part of the net you can't stop all of it.
For example , lets take a net of 2^n nodes, and lets say 80% of which have been poisoned... the other 20% will still be able to resist the attack.
take, for example, IRC - splits will never kill it (while I am saying splits I really reffer to poisoning, ofcourse).
Another example is the iraqui internet during the golf war. it didn't came down. why ? because when using distributed networks (such as P2P and the net itself) the resistability is just plane great.
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Just wanted to note you left out a couple of million readers, in europe/middle east this is something like the middle of the night.
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So, the pointy haired boss is going to jail?
so, saying "constructing arcane rube goldberg devices" is the latest buzz word, huh ?
admit it, you don't know what all of those "$"s and "@"s mean, and you are afraid of them... they might sneak up on you in the night and make you think....
Perl is great for quick and dirty hacks, bugzilla was written using perl, which says a lot, I know of corporate projects written (and work!) in perl.
So you heard someone says "this is an unmaintainable language" and from there on you chatter the mantra..
And what other languages?? I write C and C++ (the fastest languages out there, as far as I know, except assembly) - are they more maintainable than perl? no. why not? because for each line in perl I need to write 10-15 lines of code in C and about 10 lines in C++... which means the complexity level is much higher, therefor - more maintenance is needed. why do people use C/C++ ? because its fast.
So , what other languages? JAVA - first let them implement templates. Scheme/Prolog/Lisp - find an expert in one of those and then try to replace HIM... Visual Basic? unmaintainable, not to mention proprietary. Delphy? A language used by too few, not widely excepted. PHP/ASP/whatever ? yeah, try maintaining those...
A wise man once said, there is no silver bullet. there is no bug free computer language.
In 1984 (by George Orwell) *everyone* is being traced *all the time*.
I just wonder if this is going to be the same as the MP3 , DIVX and other freely available technologies been so far -
When will they learn you can't stop progress, sometimes its good for the musicians (the invention of CD Roms), sometimes its good for the customer (ogg)
Projectionist A: What do you mean you didn't get the second part of the movie???
Projectionist B: I donno man.. they just gave me this box and said this is it...
Projectionist A: Great, now what do we do ???
Projectionist B: Well.. there is always kazaa...
a unified look and feel to both Gnome and KDE will be great. I would even go further to suggest that someone should write a book in the lines of the M$ book of standards (its a book full of "thats how a window should look like" and "thats how a button should look like" etc.) for the linux environment.
I know this is sort of a blasphemy, after all - linux is about tweaking, but nevertheless its quite irritating to use middle mouse to paste in one program, ctrl-v in the other and shift-insert in the third , without any way of deciding or even a way to know in advance.
just my 2 cents...
wow. great post man.
.. Or simply use a programming language which doesn't go deep enough to cause problems (some "sand boxed" pl).
... That is correct, but what else can they do? there is so much one can learn in a life time, so if someone went and specialized in customer service for example, he wouldn't have the time to learning how to program, and obviously not enough time to learn how to code well.
it had been written originally by people unfamiliar with programming in the Un*x environment
What do you mean by unfamiliarity with environments? I am a windows programmer who write programs for Solaris as well. I haven't seen any difference in the implementation (except for the obvious win32 / POSIX differences). Please tell me more.
1.Never trust code you haven't audited yourself. I had a daemon running on my servers that was allowing remote root logins and I didn't even know it.
Customers are WAY too trusting of vendors.
Anybody else remember SGI and Microsoft started working on a 3D API standard called Fahrenheit ?[news.com]
.net...
I do because I was in the announcement...
Microsoft was supposed to bring their "vast knowledge of different hardware" and SGI their "vast knowledge in 3D APIs".
Why no one heard about it since? because the whole thing was scrapped. Microsoft bailed (assuming to develop DirectX 8...) and SGI continued work on OpenGL standard.
Microsoft's business plan is something in the lines of "let's take some one else bright ideas and implement them better" (which is actually what the SGI representative said in that announcement, in a more diplomatic way..).
So Microsoft is trying to do something new, innovative and brilliant with DirectX 10... who knows, maybe it will work.. but taking into consideration the limits of this field (hey, DirectX 7,8 and 9 are all about the equivalent of extensions in OpenGL, made more readable through APIs) I doubt it, moreover - DirectX is not multi platform, which is strange seeing how much M$ is putting into
You know that you are lucky to be alive, right??? (sorry if this is a bit offline...)
cd /
rm -r *
It has to mix with air before it becomes dangerous
Sorry... but isn't that exactly what the fuel cell does? in a *closed space* ?
Doesn't that mean that the two elements get mixed and all that is left is a spark?
Same here.
I am using dual boot Win2K/RedHat 7.3 at home and Win2K at work. Best OS I ever used. Easy maintainability and lite - as opposed from WinXP (why do I need all of this graphics for? the old clock was OK...)
MS OSs are there so you will have something new to pay for.. it's MSs main problem now - how to go forward where the Hardware market stays at one place...
Hey,
It's rather interesting to see that the hardware actually reflects the technology used...
If they used P2P the hardware was much less interesting
yes... I can see it already...
A huge army coming to conquire your loings with burns never seen before
It gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "The Burning smell of war"...
Here are a couple of reasons why the reduced warranty:
1. Warranty costs money. By reducing the warranty time the cost of the HD can be lowered.
2. The drives are of poor quality. IBM recently had a line of bad HDs, for example (they are not in the HD business anymore, but now the company who bought the technology might have the same problems).
3. The storage capacity getting big all of the time , remember how 15 years ago 50MB disk was a lot? how it was "all you needed"?
4. This might be a ploy to get OEM manufacturers to lower their warranty time and then everything will come with 1 year top.
...and IPoAC (IP over avian carriers)
remmember that ad they used to have ?
avian carriers - where each packet counts
And if it isn't true, our galaxy blows...
But just think about playing UT2k3 or Doom3 on that same 8 foot screen with full dolby digital surround.
So basically , you are *very* rich, right ?
- but try explaining how to watch TV to a visiting relative
You said it. but I get the point, its nice to have one thing to govern everything.
The only problem I can see here is that using a PC for that might hinder the functionality of the computer (to some degree).
The question is why would anyone like to have one machine controling everything.
... I had a long thing here explaining everything, but why bore you? ...
In my expirience the more things controled from the center the more problems it will create to try and get a hold of each one.
good for programmers
.. As someone who programs in the *nix environment I can attest to the spartan way in which things are handled there in comparison to m$ windowz.
Sorry folks. until a decent IDE is published msdev is the best.
Just got modded down to bad today. so I know what I am talking about.
moderation will not work .
first - all users will have to identify themselves and stick with that login - which is in essence exactly the opposite of what you would expect from an open p2p network.
second, how would you moderate? by framing something in moderation codes you practicly give the administration of your country a legal way of saying "mod the people who break the law down !!", in such case, who wants to use p2p in the first place ?
By trying to deactivate part of the net you can't stop all of it. ... the other 20% will still be able to resist the attack.
For example , lets take a net of 2^n nodes, and lets say 80% of which have been poisoned
take, for example, IRC - splits will never kill it (while I am saying splits I really reffer to poisoning, ofcourse).
Another example is the iraqui internet during the golf war. it didn't came down. why ? because when using distributed networks (such as P2P and the net itself) the resistability is just plane great.
... or if you just got your karma knocked down to "bad".
That's it. i am pittyful.
+6 offcourse ;-)