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New York Times Staff Editorial Promoting Linux
cotyledon writes "Today's New York Times editorial (Free Blah-Di-Blah) describes Linux as good for consumers and good for programmers. It recommends "Government units abroad and in the United States and individual computer users should look for ways to support Linux and Linux-based products. The competition it offers helps everyone." This is the paper's opinion, btw, and not a guest columnist."
register: blah di blah is the standard reference to the New York Times Web site for some reason.
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Ha-... huh?
Not that I object, but this seems like an odd thing for the NYT to just come out and say. "...the possibility of invading Iraq. By the way, Linux r0xx0rs. In other news..."
"Destroy science and religion. Science would re-emerge exactly the same; but not religion." - Penn Jillette, paraphrased
It baffles me why Slashdot continues to post links to the NY Times with nary a mention of the NY Times random login generator. It makes my perusal of the news so much nicer.
I'm really surprised that NY Times has come out with this stance. At the same time, I'm also very pleased. It is good to see a major publication entity encouraging competition. I don't recall seeing any pro-Linux commentary in NY Times' website before...does anyone else?
I should have picked out the nickname Demosthenes!Tecumseh.
I can see the testimonials popping up on distro sites...
"The competition it offers helps everyone" - New York Times (registration required)
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The difference between man and animal is that man made nuclear bombs. You can't hug your children with nuclear bombs.
I find it interesting that according to Netcraft, nytimes.com is running on Solaris. Perhaps they should switch to Linux :)
Since the NYT requires registration to view articles people used to always say something like "free registration required" when they submitted stories from the site. People are so tired of reading that with every submission that we see people writing blurbs like blah-di-blah in place of saying free registration is required.
As the government's antitrust lawsuit winds down, Microsoft's next battle may be a knock-down, drag-out fight against Linux. Like Microsoft's Windows, Linux is a computer operating system, but written and updated by volunteer programmers in a communitarian spirit, and available for free. If Linux spreads, Microsoft could see the first real challenge to its dominance of the operating-system software market. For consumers, that would be good news.
Microsoft's critics charge that its dominance of the market -- more than 90 percent of home computers run on its software -- results in high prices and reduced choice. And outside programmers have long complained that Microsoft makes it hard for them to create software compatible with Windows-based computers.
The government's antitrust lawsuit was aimed at solving these problems. If it fails to do that -- a ruling on a proposed settlement is expected soon -- the best hope may be Linux. Since Linux software is free, hundreds of dollars could be cut off the price of a computer. No less important, since Linux's source code -- the intricacies of how it works -- is publicly available, programmers don't have to get permission or assistance from anyone.
There are promising signs that Linux, which has been around for years, may finally be taking off. More than two dozen countries -- including Germany and China -- have begun to encourage governmental agencies to use such "open source" software. In the home market, Wal-Mart has started selling a home computer called Lindows, which runs on Linux. Early reviews have been mixed, but its $199 price tag shows the savings Linux could deliver.
Linux may, still, have a rough road ahead. Its informality could be a liability for the sort of serious governmental and commercial projects for which it is now being considered. And, not surprisingly, Microsoft has been working to blunt the Linux threat.
Government units abroad and in the United States and individual computer users should look for ways to support Linux and Linux-based products. The competition it offers helps everyone.
If I wanted to read it, I'd be doing it. How much are they paying you to advertize them several times per day?
Now, if we can get BusinessWeek or the Wall Street Journal to start saying things like "...businesses should begin investigating Linux to remain cost competitive", the C*O's in America would start herding over to Linux (regardless of its merits and/or limitations, but that's another story).
I've not come here to bash Linux in any way shape or form, but...
There is no doubt that Linux supports the cause of breaking the MS monopoly (a good thing, whether or not MS itself is bad..that's not a debate I'm about to start). It's good for the industry, it is definitely a nice operating system for servers, programmers, and sophisticated computer users.
But Linux (in my opinion, at any rate) is NOT appropriate for the consumer as the articticle claims. The average American (and probably European too, but I can't say) consumer can run word, e-mail, the web, e-mail, and probably a few games. They are blissful on Windows, have no desire to switch over and dont really know about (nor do they care about) the Windows vs. *nix vs. whatever.
Until Linux comes to a level of user-friendliness much more advanced than it's at now, Linux is not going to enter the general consumer market. The programs are not what people are familliar to, it's not supported by ISPs and a lot of technical help groups, the installation is still complicated (we're talking about people who generally have neither the ability nor desire to so much as reinstall Windows), and neither the CLI (obviously) nor the major interfaces (Gnome, KDE, etc.) are really as user friendly and simple to use as Windows.
I generally like the NYT, but I wish they'd put a little more general thought into some issues.
Logic is the ultimate device.
http://www.asahi.com/english/nyt/opinion.html
Seriously though, its cool how a main stream publication that almost EVERYONE reads is givving it this much praise....
Well...Forbes had a special too....but ...oh nevermind...
I'm the guy with the unpopular opinion
From the article:
If Linux spreads, Microsoft could see the first real challenge to its dominance of the operating-system software market.
It would be nice if the writer suggested why Linux has the potential spread where others, most notably MacOS, have so far been steamrolled. Instead, MacOS isn't touched on, and we aren't given any new arguments why Linux could succeed on the desktop.
It's great to see Linux being taken seriously by the Times but it would be better still to see this editorial add something fresh to the pro-Linux argument.
I'm generally "Interesting," "Insightful," and even "Funny" here. What the hell happens to me at parties?
The NY Times has recently recreated itself as a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party. All Democrat, all the time.
So if you want Linux to be associated with that nest of vipers, I guess this is great.
Yes.
Linux is still as far from replacing Windows on the desktop in the government as well as anywhere else, but linux, and more specifically open source in general is quickly becoming king in the military technology arena. You see, Uncle Sam sees the benefit of the "many eyes" theory. I recently started working for the government in a high-tech capacity, and I was astounded at how embraced open source is for development. In fact, the department I work for goes as far as to say that open systems (that's what the gov't like to call it) are not the exception but the rule.
"Sir, we've got a lock on the target"
"Fire when ready!"
"Uhh...Sir, we've got a Blue Screen here"
"If at first you don't succeed, lower your standards."
This is the paper's opinion, btw, and not a guest columnist.
So when did the paper itself become self aware?
This editorial appears in the print edition as well. Needless to say, the NYT is quite a prestigious publication. While I am surprised its editorial board has taken such a strong stance on such a geeky issue, the positive press will surely be good for open standards and free competition.
We mustn't forget that competition is the cornerstone of a free economy and that Microsoft makes a significant contribution to technological innovation. Without Microsoft's constant competitive pressure on OSS developers, the quality of open source software would suffer. Certainly Microsoft has shown that it is more than willing abuse its monopoly status and it is the duty of the Department of Justice to protect the consumer against economic hegemony. Under the Bush administration, the DoJ is failing to perform its duty. In spite of this, my sincerest admiration goes out to the OSS kernel and application developers who choose to challenge the Giant rather than merely whine about its existence.
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So what will they do to support linux, switch all their desktops to linux and say it out load, "these articles where written with open office" , use linux servers, etc.
Does ANYONE really care what an editor of a newspaper thinks? About ANYTHING? In my experience, reporters are probably some of the least informed, least intelligent, laziest people in any profession. I don't know anyone who looks at the editorial section to see what "The Editor" thinks.
Maybe I'm just unusual, but I just don't imagine that hoards of people are going to think that some NY Times editor is an expert on technology (or anything for that matter, other than editing).
Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
ah I am going to ask the very obvious question..
What does NYT Digital presses run under? Is it Linux?
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The story of my parents... :P
They are definately what could be called "average users"... They don't know exactly how their computer works except for the few programs they needed, and don't want to know more. Even using a "totally user-friendly OS such as MS Windows", they often feel dumb when in front of the computer because it won't do what they want it to do, for most of the time.
They didn't care about windows vs. *nix either, until I told them about Linux, which is what I run. They asked me the obvious question: What is Linux?. I tried to avoid "tech" talk with my parents because I know they hate it and it's really hard to always try to explain everything that seems so obvious to you because you spend so many times in front of your machine... So I just said it was an OS, like Windows, only better in my opinion, and that it's Free. Notice the capital F, instead of going all-tech, I started telling them the story of Open Source, Free Software, how MS is "evil" (they read the newspapers, they already knew that) etc...
Well guess what, a month later they ask me if they would be able to use Linux, and ask me to install it for them.
So what's the moral of that rather long story? I don't know, some folks care more than saving a hundred bucks... :)
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
The article wasn't saying "Linux is good for the consumer" in the sense that "everybody with a computer should go install Linux now". All the article is saying is that if Linux can offer challenge and competition to the Microsoft monopoly, that THIS would be good for the consumer. For example, presumably if Linux starts making inroads into corporate desktops Microsoft will lower the price of some of their products (if nothing else). Better yet, maybe we'll see more interoperability between the MS, Apple, and Unix worlds, which would also be good for "consumers". Don't try to force what the paper said into such a narrow-minded view.
I have seen the future, and it is inconvenient.
Leave it to the Democrats to take taxpayer money and replace sensible cars with Mercs, BMWs, and Lexus'.
Just fucking great.
UNIX is user-friendly. It's just picky about who its friends are.
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This article could use some serious revamping. My opinion may be momentarily biased because I'm typing this while I sit in my evening English class, but this article is, well, poorly written. I'm not just saying this as a techie - I'm sure we all noticed the obvious lack of tech-savvy on the part of the writer (um, "a home computer called Lindows" - as opposed to all the home computers called Windows or OS X), but did anyone else expect a higher standard of writing from a major newspaper? The papers we constantly have to "peer review," even the worst of them, demonstrate better ability in writing. *sigh* I'm probably just bashing on this article because it's the first opportunity I've had to really vent so far today... but hopefully someone out there agrees with me.
Hadn't seen you troll in a while - what made you crawl out from under your bridge...?
Please note that I'm not saying that all the users care... Some will say Linux is not a political platform etc. But it is the motive of some people, and sometimes not just "hackers", "geeks" or whatever. If the system is better (according to you needs), it doesnt hurt that it fits with your beliefs.
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
White Gangstaz?
However, ...
Government units abroad and in the United States and individual computer users should look for ways to support Linux and Linux-based products. The competition it offers helps everyone.
That last comment is definitly worth highlighting as the only useful thing in the "Editorial".
"So when did the paper itself become self aware?"
Well, they became citizens back at the turn of the 20th century (when corporations were invented...)
I guess that self-awareness happened back in 2020 when the groupware/blogging software started to think for itself..
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Good point. Come to think of it, I do know a couple of non-techies that use linux for reasons other than saving money. My ex-wife's father started out a mac user with no technical background. He was an artist and teacher - not a geek by any means. The last time I saw him, he'd become a hard-core linux PPC user. He was even learning C so that he could contribute to some of his favorite open source applications. I was very impressed. I think he was drawn in by the community and collaborative aspects of OSS. Unfortunately, I still think that those people are in the minority these days and that money will be the driving force behind most of linux's success.
;)
Then again, I could discover that it's just the cheap bastards I hang out with coloring my viewpoint
NYT:"Its informality could be a liability for the sort of serious governmental and commercial projects for which it is now being considered."
Linux is very formal: all it's APIs are based
on public standards and all the code is open.
It's Microsoft that is "informal" in hiding
their APIs and using proprietary standards.
Linux is definitely not at a liability vis-a-vis
Microsoft. In the server market, it's
Linux's sole liability is it's lack of desktop
market share penetration and unfamiliarity to "MSCE" support drones.
Linux's (a truly open Unix) competition for serious
work is Solaris Unix.
Despite the fact that my home machines run linux, I still have a major objection: Linux isn't nearly the only good alternative to Micro$oft. FreeBSD and OpenBSD are equally good (and about 99% compatible with linux). OSX is, by all reports, an excellent system, if somewhat pricey.
Imagine the quality cars we'd have if people were afraid to drive anything that didn't have, say, the Ford dashboard layout. "The headlight control is on the wrong side; how can people ever possibly learn to handle that?"
This is the reasoning we're hearing for why people can't learn anything but Windows. And we're getting the crappy computers that you'd expect in such a market.
But I don't think that people are that stupid. They can learn to drive Toyotas and Hyundais and Volvos and Saabs. I think they are mostly smart enough to handle KDE or Gnome or OSX.
Maybe we should be encouraging them to try something that just might be better than the worst system on the market.
Those who do study history are doomed to stand helplessly by while everyone else repeats it.
My brother is taking an introductory computer course at the local community college. I was surprised to find a page and a half talking about linux and showing screenshots. Hopefully people get used to seeing it and eventually switch over to it.
... but a wildly successful beginners guide is another thing altogether.
You know that if all the movie critics in the world give props to this year's hot indie film, almost no one will go see it. Put it in wide release, and get some hype behind it, and you've got yourself a blockbuster.
I think it's about time we got a "desktop distro" that nears the foolproof quality of Windows, has a tremendous user guide, and has easy to use dumbed down setup tools involved. It's about time everyday people started recommending Linux because "it's easy" and "its better than Windows".
We knew this already, though. Just repeating it for emphasis, cause I feel that strongly about it.
Well, you can see what they run their website off of...
You should also note that quite a few newspapers run their presses of some sort of Unix, some in tandem with Macs. This may be mostly the smaller papers (the one's I've had contact with), but that setup seems to work for quite a few.
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That was hilarious!
Hmm, I seem to have a sense of humor as twisted as sdem's. Ah well.
Gratuitous karma whoring lacking original thought.
Wal-Mart has started selling a home computer called Lindows, which runs on Linux. Early reviews have been mixed, but its $199 price tag shows the savings Linux could deliver.
They could have at least done a little research! It would have been much more accurate to say that Wal-Mart has started selling a home computer running Lindows, a Linux based OS.
Since the NYT requires registration to view articles people used to always say something like "free registration required" when they submitted stories from the site. People are so tired of reading that with every submission that we see people writing blurbs like blah-di-blah in place of saying free registration is required.
So why doesn't Slashdot just stop linking to nytimes.com then? They have stated that their general policy is to not link to registration-required sites, so why should NY Times be any different? The link has them saying that NY Times has "a lot of high-quality" stories...so do lots of registration-required sites. They also say that NY Times was grandfathered in...wtf is that supposed to mean? People may be getting tired of reading "Free Registration Required" on every other Slashdot link despite a Slashdot policy that is meant to curb this, but personally I am much more annoyed by having to register there in the first place.
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of the Corporate States of America...
go curl up with your 5th grade essay, Bias, somewhere else.
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Lack of sources. Gratuitous karma whoring.
The article claims that now that Microsoft has won against the government, it's next big challenger will be Linux.
That's a joke.
The people who think that Linux will rise up to crush the oppressor are either delusional or horribly misinformed.
While Linux has made, and will continue to make inroads due to its technical superiority, Microsoft still has the lion's share of market share, and an absolutely enormous amount of money.
Really, to think of Microsoft and the Linux community as fighting for supremacy is like imagining a battle between a human and an ant colony. The human may not be able to destroy the ant colony (or may get one colony, while many others remain in the yard), due to its diffuse nature, but the human will never be seriously threatened by it.
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What does it mean, this "free blah-di-blah"?
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Ifyou want a good selection of software (though not what Windows has), the power of Unix, and a very usable GUI (compared to Windows and especially compared to GNOME or KDE), try Mac OS X. Linux users are moving to it in droves, according to O'reilly.
although Solaris hardware is a bit fallacious...
I knew what grandparent was talking about. "Solaris hardware" is "hardware with the Solaris(tm) mark on it", which in turn is "hardware certified by Sun Microsystems as tuned especially for running the Solaris(tm) operating environment". Sun SPARC workstations and servers are examples of such hardware. Think of it as analogous to "a Windows machine" that has the "designed for [big swastika] Windows XP" sticker.
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An "open source" website.
Ya know, something you can use on your computer without having to register or give up personal information.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
Guess NYT can count the days until their license audit. Sure hope that login server is running illegal NT!
(the Q asks it all, folks)
You know, the closer that I see Linux approaching MS parity in form and function, the more articles that I read declaring Linux' "real competition" being Solaris, MacOS X, etc. Am I high? How can you compete with your co-defeated marginal players? Why do it? I think that the majority of these opinions are cleverly designed ruses planted by trolls trying to make Microsoft's truest competitors beat each other to death. Then, when a publication the caliber of the NY Times (whatever caliber you assign to them will do) says, however marginally, that Linux is a threat to MS, so many people line up to point out how behind the, um, times they are. Microsoft wins not because of superior product or customer service, but rather on the power of the vain, factious, cowboy (no offense sir) mentality that sticks to Linux like a bad smell. Microsoft is not 30,000 people off thinking on their own, but one man thinking with 30,000 brains. He is not a guru or some neat guy, he's a billionaire with 300,000,000 plus private lines to the computer consumer market. The consumers may be sick of the geek, but they see no alternative (unless you take those Mac ads seriously). The rest of the computer world looks like an episode of Little Rascals. Cute, capable, plucky rebels trying to win the soapbox derby with two ladders strapped to three baby carriages. Granted, I've seen sparks of hope with Lindows, Lycoris, EOne, and the voices for tighter standardization, but unless 30,000 brains begin following one idea to completion (no matter how imperfect), the Linux commune-ity might as well be fighting the Nimitz with a tennis-ball cannon firing 100 shots a second. It's impressive, but ultimately comical. I propose everyone using Linux, no matter the flavor, send 100 dollars (or an equivalent in Yen or those big stone coins) to one place and call THAT Linux. Otherwise, we may just have to hand ourselves the dubious title of the toughest cripple at the street fight.
Windows XP SP2 told me to install third-party software that prevents viruses and protects stability... I chose Ubuntu
I'll add that one next time.
If you have Opera, Konqueror, or Mozilla, you shouldn't have to register. If you have IE, make you register. If you have AOL, make you wait five minutes while they 'download new artwork.'
Evil is the money of root.
There was a blurb on CNN having to do with USB storage devices, and increased support from hardware manufacturer for Linux was mentioned.
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There is a war going on for your mind.
Beware, wood-pulp has been genetically engineered. Soon they will gather together with their brothers, and turn into a giant, man-eating blob.
Fortunately, I have a lighter. I don't think the paper has thought that far ahead, but what would you expect from ground-up trees? You've seen how the rainforest protects itself: "Hey, everybody! Hold still and play dead... I'm sure they'll all go away."
Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
Not Free Blah-Di-Blah.
The NYT's editorial will give Linux's profile a bit of a nudge, but I have to think that the biggest single push toward consumer popularity would come from an AOL client for Linux. I know the combination of Linux and AOL is anathema to a lot of folks, but tens of millions of AOL users won't consider moving to Linux until AOL does.
-- Slashdot: When Public Access TV Says "No"
I might agree with you if the word could only be found on dictionary.com, which incorporates words from very modern sources like the Jargon File, but here's "communitarian" at Merriam-Webster.
It's just sad that so many news sources seem to be so eager to oblige them.
"We must still have chaos within in order to be able to give birth to a dancing star." --Friedrich Nietzsche
This reminds me of the call to arms of a small country seeking international recognition. Bangladesh? Seeking freedom from Pakistan and using the US as a megaphone via their fellowships. They mastered some simple press releases announcing that they were viable, and look at them today. Geography was on their side, but there is no geography in opensource. Mentors for us all.
(Psst. He's making an allusion to "total cost of ownership or 'TCO'. Oh, and watch your head.)
Seriously, I think many more people would be very happy with a Macintosh than currently own one. Put another way, I think there is 'growth potential' for the Macintosh product family.
Will Apple-made personal computers ever seriously challenge Microsoft/Intel/AMD "Wintel" dominance? Not a chance. Forget it. But what I don't get is why so many people think this is a mark of irrelevance or failure.
In truth Apple is one of the most relevant computer makers. Apple is also one of the most relevant software makers. Apple is also one of the most sucessful personal computer makers. They make tons of money, have a fiercely loyal customer base, hold one of the most recognized brands in the United States and could buy every single Linux comany with cash using only the change out from under the breakroom couch pillows. The fact that the platform that they put forth isn't a dominant one doesn't change any of that.
Sometimes I think we're all so used to hearing about some single-digit marketshare that the Macintosh platform is supposed to have that we simply lose sight of the fact that Apple is a very large, very sucessful and influential company that makes some darned nice products, too. They're in no danger of irrelevance.
Sorry about the seemingly unprovoked rant. Sometimes it just bursts out. Mod me down if you must. I can take it.
You like your Macintosh better than me, don't you Dave? Dave? Can you hear me Dave?
Oh yeah, well what about this then ?
And even if AOL was on Linux, it wouldn't cause Linux to suddenly thrash Microsoft in terms of market share.
For example, I don't give a rat's arse about AOL. Give me EverCrack on Linux, however, and my MS W98 partition will be fragged instantly.
Some guy down the street, however, probably doesn't give a rat's arse about EverCrack. But give him some high quality music editting software, and he'd consider running over to Wal-Mart to pick up a copy of RedHat.
Oh, did I forget all those people in that town that's ten miles away? Ah, yes, I did. Well, they'd never switch to Linux, because frankly, they don't really care about crashes. Why should they bother to learn something new and strange?
To quote Neo, "There is no 'killer app'"
Wow, you're rather fortunate. I would also describe my parents as average users. They call me "un-American" for running a communist OS and bashing captialism at every chance. Okay, so maybe that's an exaggeration, but people are a lot more varied than some give them credit for. Some are sheep, some are goats. uh.. no! just kidding... I've tried to show my parents how easy and cool Linux is, but they refuse to try new things.. though I did get my dad to assemble his computer once after I bought some new parts to put in it.
A solution to the problem with music today
Linux has had more success than Microsoft in the embedded space. It's giving Microsoft a run for its money in the server space - at least keeping market share away from Microsoft, if not actively grabbing it. It completely dominates in the supercomputer space, where Microsoft has no presence. So far, Linux has had very little impact in the desktop space, but that seems likely to change over the long term.
Over time, it's actually very likely that Microsoft's traditional sources of revenue will erode significantly, because of Linux and open source in general. Office suites are a case in point: on the one hand, you have Microsoft experimenting with licensing schemes where they try to charge consumers $100's per year for the use of their product, while on the other hand, you have very competitive free alternatives that have been improving at a dramatic rate and are increasingly being noticed by organizations ranging from the governments of the U.S., Germany, and Peru, to colleges and companies with specialize needs. If Microsoft fails to get the world to switch to an office-suite-as-service model, and I think they will fail, Linux and open source will have played a big role in that.
That doesn't mean Microsoft is doomed. But they'll be forced to focus on and stick to spaces where they can compete effectively against "free" software - such as the big business world, where the consultants you can deploy are at least as important as the out-of-the-box software you provide.
In fact, Microsoft has been moving "upmarket" in this sense for a long time, which is one reason they began losing the support of small developers and companies: back when it sold DOS and early versions of Windows, Microsoft needed all the support it could get, and big business treated it as a minor side issue; now, big business loves Microsoft, and vice versa. If you're not a Fortune 1000 company, you're effectively little but a potential annoyance to Microsoft, a source of revenue that can't be supported in a cost-effective way.
Because of this, you can expect to see small business moving to Linux also, in servers to start with but later for workstations also, as Microsoft products become less and less suitable (Exchange, anyone?) and Linux becomes more and more off-the-shelf and automated (a la Red Hat network.)
In short, the New York Times is a little behind the times - they're acknowledging a grassroots trend that has been building for years, and that is already a reality. But they're quite timely in another sense, in that the effectiveness of Linux as a competitor to Microsoft has only just begun. It's only been four years since the Halloween documents opened many people's eyes to Linux, and the landscape has changed dramatically since then. Check back in 2006, and see how Microsoft has changed as a result. My bet is it'll be dramatic, although the specifics are hard to predict.
Here's some rough prices of what smaller white box builders pay for MS OEM software.
$130 MS Windows 2000 Pro
$ 90 MS Windows 98 Version 2
$128 MS Windows XP Pro
$ 81 MS Windows XP Home
$ 64 MS Works Suite 2002 Single
While those prices are much less than the full retail version it's still alot on a money on a $300 box (that you're only making $5 or $10 on, in bulk).
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About time NY Times touts Linux... the # of hits Slashdot sends their way must be astounding.
Editorial boards are made up of a bunch of journalism majors who have worked their way up through the newspaper ranks. They don't actually know anything except reporting, but somehow feel empowered to offer advice on everything and anything. Think back to when you were in school and who the journalism majors were. Here they are offering opinion on two of the most complex pieces of software in general use: Windows and Linux OS. When reading it keep in mind that almost certainly they don't know the first thing about software development. It would be surprising if any of them had even the most rudimentary exposure to programming, let alone large scale software development. In Seattle, our local newspaper editorial board frequently weighs in on topics they just don't know anything about. This doesn't seem to stop them from trying to tell Boeing how to build airplanes, Microsoft how to develop software, and Starbucks how to brew coffee. Give me a break.
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A year ago, I would likely have agreed. Much has changed since then.
I have Mandrake 8.2 running here at home. My wife and I use it for watching DVD media, listening to Mp3 files, word processing, spreadsheets, basic scheduling and general Internet usage. (Web e-mail and such.) I am very technical, but she is not. Linux works nicely in this respect. We have different logins, mine is customized to the hilt and setup for more than basic computing, hers is clean and easy to use. The nice thing is, with Linux, it is easy to keep things that way.
Guess what? This machine works fine! Heck, it is not even that nice of a machine. E-machine (ewww..), Matrox G400 video, 500 mhz PIII, 192Mb ram and some HD are not much these days. I can get another machine and do the same thing for just the cost of Closed Software licenses alone! That has got to be good for the consumer.
The only configuration I needed to do with this machine that did not work easily with the GUI is the DVD setup. Ogle is great, but due to some lame law decisions in the US, I have to get this somewhere else. If this were not the case, I know Mandrake would have intergrated this program in with the others. It is likely that, given the freedom to include DVD support, I would have had to do almost nothing to begin really using my machine.
Now I know not everyone can do this yet because of the time it might take to learn how to set things up properly, but each revision of the various distributions seems to reduce the need for this by quite a bit. One more iteration and things will work very nicely for most of what we need to do day to day.
Soon we will be able to buy a very nice workstation ready to handle all day to day computing tasks for the price of that other OS. Now with all that extra money laying around, don't you think that people will be interested in buying some additional products since they got such a deal on their base computer? I do, particularly when they realize they are spending their money for new things, not the same things over and over again each year.
A large chunk of the problem has very little to do with the performance of the Open Source / Free Software whatever method of development, it has to do with lawyers profiting off of the fear that some companies have for their withering business models.
So right now I would agree with the Times, Linux is good for consumers, not all consumers mind you, but an increasing number of them.
So really, I don't think for a minute that the editors of the Times are stupid. Like it or not, a lot of thought goes into the production of the Times; otherwise it would not have the name that it does today.
They see what I see; namely, that Linux is ready now and improving at a very nice clip. We are seeing Linux leave the early adopter stage about to enter the early majority. This is a great time because all the really good stuff happens now. Applications are being ported, new ones in process are showing up now, early ones are maturing to a very usable state.
I work in the MCAD field. Did you know that Pro Engineer is coming to Linux next year? That is major software supported by not one, but two large companies, PTC and HP/Compaq. These types don't port unless there is demand. I would say that the Times has it just about right at the moment.
How is the whole thing supposed to progress if it does not get some press at the key time? I believe that time is now. I just don't think the Times are that far off --I could be wrong, but I hope not.
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There was the September 10th article about Hewlett-Packard firing their open source evangelist, Bruce Perens, which managed to state his case pretty well, including his outrage over the flamingly hypocritical microsoft-backed "Initiative for Software Choice" overseas lobbying group.
And there was their original September 5th article reporting on that lobbying group (and really, if there's anything that Microsoft has done that screams "We want to go to hell in a hurry!" it's creating that organization). The times tossed in a nice zinger there that hinted pretty strongly about how they feel: "(Illegally stifling choice, of course, was precisely what the federal courts in the long-running antitrust case ruled that Microsoft did in the market for personal computer software.)"
The Times articles may no longer be free, but we did write-ups of them here (sept. 5) and here (sept 10) and we quoted the articles fairly heavily.
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Microsoft: Nanny nanny boo boo!
Since when did logging into a site have anything at all to do with software development? All these rants about registering and logging in to the NYT make no sense at all, especially coming people who have registered and logged in to Slashdot.
-- Slashdot: When Public Access TV Says "No"
The obvious reason the Times said this today was the Sun announcement about Linux PCs.
As for all the people saying, "yes, Linux used to be unfriendly, but now it's just as good as Mac or Windows," that would have a lot more credibility if the same people hadn't been saying exactly the same thing for the last seven years or so. The fact is, it hadn't caught up then, and it hasn't caught up now.
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That your parents love you and could tell that Linux and Open Source ware very important to you, so they decided to give it a try because they knew it would make you happy?
As a Linux user, programmer, writer, and advocate, I'm interested in this. But what I'm wondering is has a major newspaper used its editorial page to endorse a product before? A candidate, yes. A stand on an issue, yes. But a product? Or do people see this differently? Is choosing an OS a matter of public policy?
IMHO Linux is _the_ OS of choice for anyone involved in learning computer science. Great development tools and all of them free. Ability to see source code for real world apps in action. Ability to take contribute bug fixes to these apps or even to start your own. This is why I love Linux.
However Linux really sucks for gamers. I spend more time playing games than writing code so my main box runs WinXP. I dont think linux has much chance of becoming popular on the desktop it gets some decent game support. Heck if Linux ran just a few games: Anarchy Online, Shadowbane and Star Wars Galaxies I could abandon Windows completely.
Ignorance is Bliss
because Linux has progressed to the point that the New York Times thinks the "Linux Minority" is worth "pandering" to.
The Enyce Times is ascending the soap box for the cause.
Sticky with red hairs on it, dig?
I am a Unix user, I detest the lack of control WIndows allows, I have had to use it three times in the last 15 years, and I tell you it is NOT intuitive, it is NOT natural, it is NOT easy to use.
How obvious is it that to rename a file you double click on the name?
Visual Studio -- had to use that for a week, just about puked daily, and found three stupdi bugs in the first day (click Add Function, no File.Save mneu so click the X to close the window, click Add Function again, it bitches that some external program has changed the source. Can you say DUMB?)
I won't go on, because I have done my best to forget the experience.
Windows sucks. The ONLY reason people put up with it is that they have been putting up with it for so long. It was a fresh install this last time, W2K, still crashed daily, and don't give me crap about bad hardware -- it previously had Red Hat on it and worked fine.
MicroSoft is locked into their PC single-user single tasking mentality. They have added multi user login and multi tasking, but not mentally, they still have that single user single task mentality, and they have locked themselves into that corner. The very idea that you have to have a GUI to control things is bizarre.
Infuriate left and right
Maybe someone should fill _your_ property with garbage, since you think it's so cool.
Use a comma to set off parenthetical elements, as in "The Founders Bridge, which spans the Connecticut River, is falling down."
Amatuers.
- the grammar fascist
I have discovered a truly remarkable proof which this margin is too small to contain.
Well, the funny thing here is that most large organizations end up trashing about 20% of their hardware in a given year anway. (Actually, many places run on a 3-year cycle.) This is why I think it was very important that that Jaguar (Mac OS X 10.2) works so much better in Windows shops than previous versions. You now could conceive of buying some Macs and adding them to the mix. Most Windows users I know who have seen Jaguar are not unimpressed; the big gripe is that they might be missing something performance-wise on the hardware end. In reality, they pretty much won't be for anything most users do, and those who do need more cycles will probably have much stronger choices in the Mac line within the next year.
Of course, to be perfectly honest, the best way to get anybody to switch to a Mac is to show them your 17" LCD, since Apple makes *very* nice LCD monitors...
Most big companies get hardware from Dell, and the differential on Optiplex hardware versus an iMac isn't as large as you might think (disclaimer: when last I checked). There's also the question of costs down the line, and accountants are now *very* aware of Microsoft licensing costs these days, as well as how many tech positions it seems to take to keep N windows boxes in order. Anecdotally, the number of Macs at my place of business is pretty small, and the official line is that they aren't supported. Which has not ended up mattering, since nobody who has a Mac has ever needed support...
Babar
Isn't that sweet. Their Op-Ed writers are plugging Linux, telling Government units abroad and in the United States and individual computer users should look for ways to support Linux and Linux-based products. Good for them to tell Joe Blow that reads their pack of dead trees with print.
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/. and offer /.ers free and clear (i.e. no registration needed) access to articles linked from /. itself. Put up a few banner ads that allow this free access, /. earns its keep, and the NYT gets readers.
/. getting in on the act as well...
Now how about they take a proactive stance on Linux if they want to plug it in Op-Ed. Here's how, and it hits right home here at
Why doesn't the NYT open its big fat wallet and support Linux itself? Why don't they lay down some cash and support VA Systems, the people who run this (and other) sites that are very proactive in the Open Source community. Not only that, but partner up with sites like
It doesn't take a nerd with millions of lines of code under his belt or some opinionated schmoe who happens to speak on behalf of one of the world's most read newspapers to figure that one out. The money that OSDN/VA Systems recieves goes into projects within the Open Source community, rapidly expanding the capabilities and usability of the Linux OS. Games get niftier, Utilities become more powerful, and the Internet becomes a halfway decent place to stake a claim. All of it free and open to the public at large (or with a big book and nice looking CDs for $25-30 at Wally World).
Who knows? Maybe a Linux applet or something that fires off real time headlines from the NYT? Stock quotes? Newsy stuff? Gee, wouldn't that get them even more exposure. Not to mention VA, OSDN, and
It's Linux Making Money and Making Waves, not Rocket Science...
Blog Prophyts - Right On, Man
Agreed. This is kind of an odd development -- why would the NYT suddenly write an editorial like this?
I agree this is a strange thing, but even stranger is that they went to the trouble of building a pop-up system that defeats Mozilla's countermeasures.
Even if Mozilla users are more likely than most to read the NYT, they can't possibly account for more than 2% of the readership. And of those 2%, surely less than half of them bother to block unrequested windows while still using Mozilla.
So what they have done is to make a minor, but significant change to their code, aimed specifically at less than 1% of the website's readership.
It's somewhat amazing that management was even aware of pop-up blocking. It's even more amazing that they actually approved changes (albeit minor) to circumvent the blocking. Few other websites have bothered to do this.
I really think that many of the high-ups at NYT are amateur tech-heads (at the least), and are definitely sympathetic to geeky issues. The editorial contains several errors, but considering that newspaper editors are not computer programmers, they really do seem to be trying hard.
Intresting. This reminds when my wife requested
that I remove from the car the Linux bumper sticker. Her
reasoning was the Linux being associated with
anachists, it far more likely that the police will tend
to stop my car and write me a ticket!
And of those 2%, surely less than half of them bother to block unrequested windows while still using Mozilla.
I meant to type: "while still using Javascript
I have a copy of XP I downloaded from the newsgroups (iso image with a key that came with it). Well, you can't use those bogus keys anymore with windows update. I don't know anyone who's ever bought a copy of Windows. Either they're gonna have to stick with 98, or buy XP, or use Linux for free.
Or... use their stolen XP and allow it to unknowingly become a DDOS zombie.
--
zombie master
How could anyone find fault with "Bill the Biller."?
:-)
Don't tell me people are starting to wonder who paid to make him the richest man in the world. And if maybe they have paid too much, for too long and over and over and over.
(Don't look at me... I run Linux on x86 and OS X on Macs. Since the days of the x80 architecture M$ has ALWAYS been the worst alternative. Windows has ALWAYS been second a visually mediocre GUI. Functionally its no great shakes either. And don't get me started on security
MSBPodcast.com The opinions expressed here are my own. If you don't like 'em... Think up your own stuff.
That's funny, I don't remember infringing on any of their copyrights.
And how the hell can you say "regardless of your personal beliefs regarding intellectual property rights and wrongs"? Those beliefs seem to me like they would be pretty important in how you treat all copyrights, not just the copyrights of articles you agree/disagree with.
Life is too short to proofread.
But you're a bigger capitalist than they are. They've bought into a monopoly -- the antithesis of a free-market economy. You have supported an open system which fosters free-market competition -- many distributions in competition, window managers in competition, and a huge number of apps that help non-Linux-centric businesses gain an advantage over proprietary competitors.
Linux is capitalism. Great ideas flourish, bad ideas are trounced, poorly marketed but technically superior ideas are salvaged from the source code of dead dot-coms. You're a fucking patriot.
My Greasemonkey scripts for Digg &
This is kind of weird. I was going to post a comment about how linux is nice & all, but usually I find myself using WinXP, and that I was in XP right now. And then I took a good hard look -- and it turns out I'm in gentoo linux right now and have been most of the day & didn't even notice. I'm totally serious. Maybe linux has come a long way!
(mozilla looks the same on both platforms)
Me, I just don't use their website at all. Too much trouble, and there are news sources -- free, high quality news sources -- all over the web.
We need to write letters to the editor informing them that linux is just a bad retread of traditional OS ideas and that there is a much better truly freely available OS out there called FreeBSD which is more popular (Apple marketing statistics show Mac OS X which is based on FreeBSD is the largest volume shipping Unix(tm) eclipsing all other linux and Unix(tm) distributions combined), more stable, and faster performing.
Now, return to Open Source. If there is a mistake in the code, you and you personally are to blame, and everybody on the whole planet knows, because it says "stratjakt" right in the program. You're afraid that your peers will snicker and point, your mother will cry, and your wife will run away because she can't stand the shame. A coding error at a big company is a "problem requiring prompt service to our respected consumers", but Open Source is as personal as a punch in the guts, and you can't avoid dealing with it by playing office games. Your code, your glory; and your mistake, your blemish.
So the question of why Open Source is and will be superior on the long run to Closed Source comes down to one simple factor: Human nature. The Free Market works because it harnesses greed; Free Software works because it harnesses pride.
I mean really. At least the first disenter had the decency to post as an AC.
I'm not sure what all the brouhaha over the NYT's registration policy is myself. If you don't like it but wish to read the articles you always have the option of having the dead tree version delivered right to your doorstep every morning.
Just call them on the phone and tell them who you are and where you live.
KFG
And of course the main reason Linux was written in the first place was to break the *UNIX* monopolies, a fact that is often times completely forgotten.
KFG
Do you run Linux?
As the government's antitrust lawsuit winds down, Microsoft's next battle may be a knock-down, drag-out fight against Linux. Like Microsoft's Windows, Linux is a computer operating system, but written and updated by volunteer programmers in a communitarian spirit, and available for free. If Linux spreads, Microsoft could see the first real challenge to its dominance of the operating-system software market. For consumers, that would be good news.
Microsoft's critics charge that its dominance of the market -- more than 90 percent of home computers run on its software -- results in high prices and reduced choice. And outside programmers have long complained that Microsoft makes it hard for them to create software compatible with Windows-based computers.
The government's antitrust lawsuit was aimed at solving these problems. If it fails to do that -- a ruling on a proposed settlement is expected soon -- the best hope may be Linux. Since Linux software is free, hundreds of dollars could be cut off the price of a computer. No less important, since Linux's source code -- the intricacies of how it works -- is publicly available, programmers don't have to get permission or assistance from anyone.
There are promising signs that Linux, which has been around for years, may finally be taking off. More than two dozen countries -- including Germany and China -- have begun to encourage governmental agencies to use such "open source" software. In the home market, Wal-Mart has started selling a home computer called Lindows, which runs on Linux. Early reviews have been mixed, but its $199 price tag shows the savings Linux could deliver.
Linux may, still, have a rough road ahead. Its informality could be a liability for the sort of serious governmental and commercial projects for which it is now being considered. And, not surprisingly, Microsoft has been working to blunt the Linux threat.
Government units abroad and in the United States and individual computer users should look for ways to support Linux and Linux-based products. The competition it offers helps everyone.
Migor speaks the truth.
I want anti-cola.
It should be tastie in my tummy.
I can't wait for the day when those who ruined Migor's karma to be killed.
Business != politics
Besides, Linux's various problems make it impractical for widespread use in business applications right now - refer to the GUI, poor peripheral support, compatibility with MS products and lack of quality fonts. I'm not trying to a be a troll, but I don't see Linux on the desktop any time soon. Especially because I've never seen the WSJ making political statements about software.
This new linux pc project from Sun is doomed to fail for one simple reason: Sun is horrible. Their track record for stability and security is poor to say the least. If I were a corporate purchaser, would I trust a Linux box from Sun or a Microsoft Windows XP powered desktop from an innovator like Dell? Come on Cubeman, give it up
Capitalism is about private ownership. It isn't about choice. You can have a free market where the majority of producers are cooperatives operating from government loans, and you can have a monopoly driven economy where all ownership is in private hands.
Those are, of course, extremes, but they are illustrative that the free market = capitalism equation really isn't right.
KMSMA (WWBD?)
Millions of people who have hardly heard of linux, but who could have a significant impact on its adoption, just saw it endorsed by a newspaper they trust.
New York Times editorials are THE most respected voice amongst educated Americans with a moderate or left of center viewpoint. No single event could have improved Linux's credibility amongst non-technical folk as much as this editorial has.
The only problem for a serius big journal like NYT to post such an article, is that it has to mean it. As I'm writing this I'm using netscape 7.0 beta under Solaris/SPARC and the editorial page didn't load Ok, mainly becouse it surely was created using Microsoft products instead of W3C standar compliant products...
But besides from that, I really love to see NYT envolved in such a "Comunist" and "Anti-American" (as Microsoft talks about Linux) crusade. We need the support of the media (the 4ft power).
A nice follow-up would be an NYT editorial about getting rid of copyrights. C'ommon guys, there hasn't been no single significant advance due to copyrights. Penicilum wasn't copyrighted (as all new Penicilium based drugs are), Goedel's Theorem wasn't copyright (as PGP is), Relativity wasn't copyrighted (as GPS are), nor Cuantic Mechanics was copyrighted (as processors are). Only companies make money out of copyright, not people (not even companies employees, becouse all profit stays within the few owners).
I don't like his music, but Bon Jovi has just get a great idea to avoid piracy. If you buy his CD, you'll get a unique ID that gives you discounted access to his concerts, and many other goodies. Instead of defending a dying paradigm, he just adapted and find a new way to keep making money. I have to admit it, Rock starts can be smart (as amazingly as it sounds...)
Even for publishers copyrights are not needed. Simple get a contract with a big company that needs advertising, add it advertise as part of your novel/colum and allow it to be copied. The more it is copied, the bigger the reach of the commercial. The same goes to movies, add advertise inside of the movies, the more the DVD get copied, the better for the advertisers... or add discount cuppons for release 2 of the movie, or for the follow up book of the same author... there are plenty of ways to make money without copyright.
The problem is that Publishers has to be smart and not only find such new ways to get money, but to administer them properly (printing the right cuppons, honor them, etc.). Hard work, but feasable nevertheless...
Our father Benjamin Frankling didn't belive in copyrights.. and thanks to that we all are protected against lighting bolts and enjoy plenty of other of his inventions... And belive me, he was the only true American willing to give his life for the country, he just didn't wanted to let GREED OF A FEW GET HIGHER PRIORITY THAN THE WELLNESS OF THE MANY. As simple as that.
KEEP ON THE GOOD WORK!!
I agree Linux does help the market be more free (though you could also argue that Linux is helping to build the economy of free goods alluded
to in Marxian political theory).
Warning, off-topic rant:
Well, not to get into a pissing match,
and I don't want to bring the tone of the discussion down from the jocular one you have set,
but in point of fact: capitalism is NOT the free market.
Capitalism refers to a social system where the pre-eminent power belongs in the hand of capitalists.
A free market dominated society is as utopian as Communism (or pick your ideology).
Because neither government nor capitalists will leave the free market alone (government because of the political pressures to intervene re market failures - yes, they are well documented in Econ 101 - and capitalists because it is very often in their economic self-interest to screw with free market - e.g. Microsoft)
It is by coff... er, will, alone I set my mind in motion...
good for programmers
.. As someone who programs in the *nix environment I can attest to the spartan way in which things are handled there in comparison to m$ windowz.
Sorry folks. until a decent IDE is published msdev is the best.
Interestingly enough, I just checked netcraft.com and it reported that www.nytimes.com is sporting a Solaris OS and using Netscape Enterprise. It would have been really funny if they were running Microsoft.
2 years with NYT registration. No spam for me neither. Freely reading the worlds best journalism.
We really need to choose our battles more wisely. Some things are jacked up in this world. The NYT's free registration is NOT one of them.
The Denver Post also had an editorial done by a guest about linux. I'm not sure if he's syndicated or not, but his thing was sometime last week. He was (as far as I know) accurate in his details and all the other fun stuff as well.
"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
The day people realize that the NYT is just as biased in the opinions that are expressed in its pages as Pravda in its heydays or The People's Daily or Le Monde or FAZ or the Times or any other world-class newspaper, the world will have progressed a little bit.
a month later they ask me if they would be able to use Linux, and ask me to install it for them.,
When the "average" consumer can install Linux by themselves is the day when we will see it being adopted at a more rapid pace. Almost anyone can install Windows (yeah, it sometimes crashes during the install, but hey, just reboot and try again), however with all the configurations, and "foreign" terms thrown at you during the Linux install, not many Moms or Pops could just sit down, install and start using.
The opinions expressed here are not mine, but those of these dang voices in my head.