Depends on where you are talking about. In a work environment where you have someone who is knowledgeable acting as the admin and everyone else is non admin. It is not much of an issue
However on home computers at least ONE person in the house is an admin and often has no clue what they are doing.
I have a friend who just went back to college. Got a laptop in March so she could do online coursework. Well, right before Mothers Day she downloads a "free" "Mothers and Fathers Day Cardmaker sponsered by Freeze.com". Several clicks on the ol' UAC and she is off making cards and after the next reboot. Well lets just say the computer was moving so slow, she was going to go down to the college and ask to get out of the online classes so she could take a regular class. Her computer was to slow to ever surf the net, let alone use for schoolwork.
The UBCD4win and three hours to run all the spyware scanners had her computer fixed right up. However the point remains. She has no clue online what is safe to download and what is not. Everything both good and bad out there is made to look pretty and free to download.
It is unfair to turn the "average" user over to a machine with a Microsoft OS on it. Since they don't know what is safe to install. They end up having to buy security software and slowing you machine down to a crawl to protect it. Or worse yet, not installing any security software. It is like watching a baby seal get clubbed to death.
Setting her up to dual boot. Vista is for doing school work. Ubuntu for everything else. Then I am showing her how to use Adept Manger to download software. I am going to tell her if it is not in the Adept Manager, then it is not possible to run it.
Of course, you could also just make them non-admin on windows
Sorry, it is HER laptop, not one of my laptops at work. Face it, before me she was running non-admin and UAC when she went to install something. Her problem was general ignorance about the online world
The average person going online on a windows machine. Is like giving a 16 year old girl car keys, a pocket full of cash and having her drive around the worst neighborhoods in a large city and telling her not to come home for 3 days. Something bad is bound to happen.
I think the best thing is to have her do a wubi install, do all browsing from Linux and only use windows for her required coursework. Tell her anytime it don't work, give me a call. So every time she downloads some program and can't install it. I can explain to her why the spyware is bad and take her to nonags or freewarehome and show her how to find a non-spyware laden alternative.
Driver support will not be an issue. If they can use Vista drivers. Well, by the time Windows 7 is released there will be 4 years of hardware made to support Vista. Now if you bump the hardware requirements up just a little for the new OS. You should not be running Windows 7 on hardware older than 4 years old.
Thus Microsoft will have their first success with Windows 7. Hardware compatibility and plenty of working drivers.
I suspect people who post things like this don't run Vista. Everyone I know who got it with a new machine kept it, enjoy it, and have not had any problems with it so far.
I ran it for a month on my new company laptop to see what there was to see. Also my boss ran it. Plus 2 other laptops came with it. Then there is my wife, my sister-in law, niece, and a friend of mine who has not computer experience.
I ditched it after 30 days. My boss ditched it after 45 days. The other laptop users eventually came to us and begged to get back to XP. My wife could only take it for 2 weeks. My siter in law wishes she had XP but does not have donwgrade rights. My nice loves it, it is just a giant I pod to her.
My friend got a new vista laptop for school. She downloaded a free card maker sponsered by freeze.com. I had to spend 4 hours to get the machine to run at acceptable speed. She was afraid she was going to have to cancel an on line class and do the class at shcool it was so bad.
So in my group, that is 8 people. 5 went back to XP. 1 wishes she could. 1 does not use a computer enough to care and 1 is afraid Vista is going to break again and leave them stuck.
On that last point. It would of been a kindness to put Linux on that machine. It would keep her out of so much trouble. Linux is better for people who don't have a clue what is safe to click on on the internet.
Windows 7 is supposed to be a new os with some sort of VM for running older apps. First of all, In the 3-4 year time frame they are talking about developing that in. I don't see how Microsoft is going to whip up a totally new and cool OS, strap on a VM make it transparent, keep up the speed in the VM and crank out a 32 bit and 64 bit OS based on all of this.
Assuming they did this somehow. If the VM is crappy, or the new OS is bloated. If wine was capable of running most XP apps well. There will be an exodus. I am sure there will even be migration tools.
Microsoft just has not made it painful enough using their new OS to make people look for alternatives to run their XP software well into the future.
in a related event, god said: thou shalt not steal.
Yes, the sheepel should just not buy any game, music or video that infringes upon their rights of free use.
If Joe sixpack would go and ask three questions. 1. can I make a backup copy 2. Can I shift formats so I can play it on a different device and 3. Can I sell it to some one else who can use it just the same as I did when I own it?
If they would just not buy anything that broke those rules. Locked down media would not be an issue. Corporations would not be pushing "by you purchasing this, you give up your fair use rights". Instead they would have to deal with fair use as they always have. On a level playing field with their customers.
To bad the more they see ways to remove pesky "fair use" rights and the more laws they make against circumvention of digital protection. They have to deal with the other end. Bandwith becoming cheaper, and it is easier to distribute and use a "broken" copy of a digtial product than it is to use the original.
It doesnt matter, because on Microsofts end they are still making their dollar off of all you fools who buy something just to throw it away. Whether you use it or not Microsoft still sees and can count a copy of Vista that was sold, they could care less if you use it or not, they just care that you are helping to keep their sales numbers up.
But developers know. Why would they target Vista other than to make sure UAC is not an issue for their software? If customers had the choice between two programs that are pretty equivalent, one requiring an upgrade to Vista and the other one will run on XP just fine, which one do they think will get purchased?
It's about apps and developers. Microsoft stays ahead of Mac and Linux and drives customers to ever greater levels of lock in via the upgrade cycle. Wine has always been playing catch up. Microsoft handed them 2001-2004 while working on Longhorn. Then Microsoft ceded 2005-2007 while working on Vista. Now Microsoft has further given them 2008-2010.
Believe me. Microsoft does not want customers to be able to sit down and look at the list of apps that will run under wine and go. iTunes...check. Photoship...check. Microsoft Office...check. AutoCAD...check. Quickbooks...check.
Microsoft has to have a new version of windows with enough compelling stuff in it to keep people hooked on technology that will not run on alternative platforms. If developers do not write such software. If they write software that will run just fine in wine. Microsoft loses customers.
They understand this. After all their rise to power was in the PC Clone market. People left the IBM hardware because the clones ran the same software just fine at a lower cost without. You also were not locked into one Vendor that dictated all the terms.
In fact you can do this. You can create accounts and give them finer grained permissions than the standard Unix model allows for. Just because you personally don't know how do that doesn't mean it isn't doable.
It just goes to show you that Windows is not ready for the desktop. As a Linux user the default behavior "just works."
You don't have to muck around in settings and configure the system for sane behavior with sudo. No need to fiddle with everything to get this fine grained control. With Linux and Mac OS. It just works out of the box.
Maybe someday Microsoft will be able to offer security and the same level of user experience that other operating systems offer. But today is not that day and Vista is not that OS.
Your buggy programs are putting their icons on the All Users desktop, not your personal desktop. This is normal if you select "Install for All Users" when installing them, if not, then they're buggy.
Does Linux not have the concept of each user having their own desktop? OS X certainly does. I don't understand why this would be confusing to anybody reading Slashdot.
Once again a chance to grouse about Vista. On my Linux Desktop I can re-arrange the items on my desktop, delete and add icons. I can also rearrange and recategorize my menus. No problem. My menu is my menu.
I will admit that you need to know a little administrator fu to be able to change the default menus or add an icon to every users desktop. Or to change their menus
But it still does not excuse Vista from that fact that if you do any real work at overhauling what is on the desktop or in the menus. You WILL get UAC prompts for many items you change. Then to add insult to injury. You will receive two or three prompts on each of these items when you move, rename or delete them.
UAC is amazingly useful if you run as a non-privileged user. Having an application ask to be elevated rather than requiring you to explicitly run it as a privileged user is pretty handy. I don't understand the hatred of UAC on a site that is teeming with UNIX users that routinely use su or sudo.
I work in a business environment. For a "small company" As in 50 million a year in business and about 70 desktops. So we are larger than "mom and pop" but smaller than "corporate".
Luckily the PC's that came with Vista had professional on them, so we were able to painlessly downgrade to XP. However before we did that. we did run Vista for a month to put it through its paces.
It is truly sad that UAC is such a screw up. There are applications that install and work fine if you right click on them and do a "Run As" and choose a privileged account to do the install from. Whereas if you just run the installer on a restricted account, you get a UAC prompt, the program installs, but does not run correctly.
Turning off UAC prompts and having things "automatically" run as a privileged user is still not the same as "Run As" and choosing an privileged account.
You can say it is the fault of whoever wrote the program. But the fact remains, Run As: Administrator yields different results than a UAC privilege escalation. And by "different" I don't mean in a good way.
The problem, however, is that a lot of Windows software was designed to have read/write access to privileged areas on the computer. Quicken (!) and AutoCad are two examples that I know offhand require Admin privileges to run.
You should try Symantec WinFax. Oh what a joy. It must be installed with a local account with admin permission. If you install it from a domain account it will never run on that machine till you reinstall the OS. When it runs, it has to run on an account with with complete read/write privileges on the C:\Windows or C:\WinNT folder. It creates a temp file in the windows folder when ever it ques a file to be sent as a fax.
And many of the customers are putting XP back on them.
But hey, MS still wins. They get a sale even if nobody uses the crap. Sounds like good business either way.
Not really. Developers know that most of their install base is staying with XP. So why bother jumping through the hoops to make a new Vista version? They know Microsoft already considers Vista the ME of the new decade. They are holding out to develop for Windows 7. Or better yet, discover that XP apps run just fine in 7.
With no compelling software to drive people to Vista. With users knowing to avoid Vista. With users downgrading back to XP. Microsoft has some problems
Double digit growth does not come from customers holding on to their old systems and trying to find a way NOT to buy Vista if they have to purchase something new.
There's a difference between not censoring, and not filtering out spam. censorship implies that certain view points are barred, unsensored implies that everyone's view point is accepted, it doesn't mean that no one picks up the trash.
I have to agree. That is one thing that people don't think of when they think of freedom of speech and tolerence.
Someone advocating something is speech. Someone against the same thing is speech. Both of which should be allowed. Someone just yelling "work from home, let me show you how" is advertising and NOT free speech. Not all points of view should be protected. Speech designed to keep others or anyone from being heard (spam) would fall in that category.
Easy. The mirror shows the fairest in the land Google. When "kill rates" looks at the mirror, he gets his way. The mirror lies and shows the fairest in the land to be "yahoo" then one "kill rates" is able to purchase. Then when he is not looking again. The mirror goes back to showing the truth....
First off thank you for your repo's. They really made it much easier to run RedHat and Mandrake back in the day before I went back to slack then Ubuntu.
Secondly, I really did not realize that the repo was named after you. I really thought it was a slang term from some European language. Aproximating "The Coolest" or something. I.E. this is Dag Wieers Archive.
Which brings me to my third point. I do not recall ever reading you at Slashdot, or them linking to some article or post of yours elseware. I have NEVER seen your name any other place than given out as a URL for finding decent RPM packages. This is the first time I have ever even considered Dag Wieers was an actual person, not just a repo. I have never heard you complain about binary drivers issues, kernel latency issues. If Novell is really evil or Linux's friend. I have never heard you make a public statement on some controversial issue or hear you prognosticate on where Linux is going or what year is the "Year of the Linux Desktop."
Fourthly, I just KNEW that if you were on Slashdot, some how you would have a UID that would shame me. This has got to be like the best day of my life. While trying to be funny I got modded a troll and put in my place by someone with a UID under 5000. Ouch!
Fifthly, I really was trying to be funny. Just the fact that it looked like to me you came out of now where to speak on this subject was just to perfect to say "Oh, I have never heard of him either, he must be Red Hat's sock puppet" and then make an analogy to how Twitter tries to make himself look better my beincg a sock puppet.
Sixthly, I never REALLY thought you were a sock puppet. I also never really thought you read Slashdot. I thought I was going be able to a) knock twitter, b) say something witty c) never havd Dag Wieers who I just found out was a real person hear me make a joke at his expense.
Seventh, as far as I know. Red Hat speaks for Red Hat. I don't think they employ astroturfing or using sock puppets to say what they have to say. They are not like Microsoft.
Seventhly, I just wonder how twitter got mod points to mod ME a troll
Apparently he is a sock puppet for Redhat much like one of twittners following. Red Hat did not even need to respond, Wieers steped forward to make a statement.
Back when I used RPM based distro's I used his archives. But I was not even aware he was a person. I thought Dag Wieers was German or Austrian for Linux Repo or something. This is the FIST time I ever heard him speak.
Right..like they do care about that..they only want to cash out...money slaves. wtf? It's a company and they are investors. We're talking business here, not Save the Hungry Homeless Spotted Whale of Peru.
Having seen homeless people thriving in their natural environment. I would suggest we get the whale shopping carts to help them survive.
4. Kill all open source products that compete against our products
As much as Microsoft needs to protect their cash cow Microsoft Office it would not surprise me if they were out to get Zimbra. I don't find Zimbra THAT impressive. Who knows, maybe Microsoft is willing to spend 40 billion to kill it? But it explains Microsofts decision as much as anything else.
Maybe Balmer needs a tin foil hat to stop the bad voices from talking to him?
That's because it takes 'lots of people who search for aardvark' in order to know that lots of people who search for aardvark might be searching for...
Chicken and egg. Nice to see that it works in favor of somebody other than Microsoft for once.
I agree that the more people search, the better chance you have of digging through the searches and clicks to decide what is relevant. But do you really think that if more people search for aardvark then aaardvark and click through on Live Search. That Live Search will figure it out?
I would say past history has shown that Microsoft deserves it placement in search engine quality. They pump ads in as search results. They were to spend 150 million to write a better search engine. They still cant even match google.
It is like all of their products. Their search is "good enough" if you don't bother to look for anything else. If you look, their is always something that beats their products.
You searched for "aadvark" and it didn't return "aaadvark"... What's the problem?
The fact that Google is smart enough to consider the possibility that someone who is searching for aadvark might be searching for aaadvark. Because heack, lots of people are looking for aaardvark, lots of people go to that site, and lots of people who search for aardvark then search for aaardvark and go there.
Microsofts "good" technology is not good enough to figure that out. However Googles technology is.
You know. All the people of any integrity seem to have left over the last 3 months.
They have done excellent work. Both in taking OLPC from a dream to an actual product. Also in getting out before the word "Microsoft Windows" has been publicly associated with the work they have done on it.
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Depends on where you are talking about. In a work environment where you have someone who is knowledgeable acting as the admin and everyone else is non admin. It is not much of an issue
However on home computers at least ONE person in the house is an admin and often has no clue what they are doing.
I have a friend who just went back to college. Got a laptop in March so she could do online coursework. Well, right before Mothers Day she downloads a "free" "Mothers and Fathers Day Cardmaker sponsered by Freeze.com". Several clicks on the ol' UAC and she is off making cards and after the next reboot. Well lets just say the computer was moving so slow, she was going to go down to the college and ask to get out of the online classes so she could take a regular class. Her computer was to slow to ever surf the net, let alone use for schoolwork.
The UBCD4win and three hours to run all the spyware scanners had her computer fixed right up. However the point remains. She has no clue online what is safe to download and what is not. Everything both good and bad out there is made to look pretty and free to download.
It is unfair to turn the "average" user over to a machine with a Microsoft OS on it. Since they don't know what is safe to install. They end up having to buy security software and slowing you machine down to a crawl to protect it. Or worse yet, not installing any security software. It is like watching a baby seal get clubbed to death.
Setting her up to dual boot. Vista is for doing school work. Ubuntu for everything else. Then I am showing her how to use Adept Manger to download software. I am going to tell her if it is not in the Adept Manager, then it is not possible to run it.
Yes, and IE 8, aside from Active X will be more like Firefox 1-2-3 and Opera than IE 5-6-7. It will be a whole new game.
There are exceptions. Back in the Commdore 64 days. The best version of Forth for that system was Blazin' Forth, written by Scott Ballantyne.
He had paid for HES Forth cartridge and did not like it at all. So he wrote his own and gave it away as a slap in the face to HES.
Sorry, it is HER laptop, not one of my laptops at work. Face it, before me she was running non-admin and UAC when she went to install something. Her problem was general ignorance about the online world
The average person going online on a windows machine. Is like giving a 16 year old girl car keys, a pocket full of cash and having her drive around the worst neighborhoods in a large city and telling her not to come home for 3 days. Something bad is bound to happen.
I think the best thing is to have her do a wubi install, do all browsing from Linux and only use windows for her required coursework. Tell her anytime it don't work, give me a call. So every time she downloads some program and can't install it. I can explain to her why the spyware is bad and take her to nonags or freewarehome and show her how to find a non-spyware laden alternative.
Driver support will not be an issue. If they can use Vista drivers. Well, by the time Windows 7 is released there will be 4 years of hardware made to support Vista. Now if you bump the hardware requirements up just a little for the new OS. You should not be running Windows 7 on hardware older than 4 years old.
Thus Microsoft will have their first success with Windows 7. Hardware compatibility and plenty of working drivers.
I ran it for a month on my new company laptop to see what there was to see. Also my boss ran it. Plus 2 other laptops came with it. Then there is my wife, my sister-in law, niece, and a friend of mine who has not computer experience.
I ditched it after 30 days. My boss ditched it after 45 days. The other laptop users eventually came to us and begged to get back to XP. My wife could only take it for 2 weeks. My siter in law wishes she had XP but does not have donwgrade rights. My nice loves it, it is just a giant I pod to her.
My friend got a new vista laptop for school. She downloaded a free card maker sponsered by freeze.com. I had to spend 4 hours to get the machine to run at acceptable speed. She was afraid she was going to have to cancel an on line class and do the class at shcool it was so bad.
So in my group, that is 8 people. 5 went back to XP. 1 wishes she could. 1 does not use a computer enough to care and 1 is afraid Vista is going to break again and leave them stuck.
On that last point. It would of been a kindness to put Linux on that machine. It would keep her out of so much trouble. Linux is better for people who don't have a clue what is safe to click on on the internet.
Because most slashdotters cant spell mallard.
I call your bullshit and raise mine.
Windows 7 is supposed to be a new os with some sort of VM for running older apps. First of all, In the 3-4 year time frame they are talking about developing that in. I don't see how Microsoft is going to whip up a totally new and cool OS, strap on a VM make it transparent, keep up the speed in the VM and crank out a 32 bit and 64 bit OS based on all of this.
Assuming they did this somehow. If the VM is crappy, or the new OS is bloated. If wine was capable of running most XP apps well. There will be an exodus. I am sure there will even be migration tools.
Microsoft just has not made it painful enough using their new OS to make people look for alternatives to run their XP software well into the future.
Yes, the sheepel should just not buy any game, music or video that infringes upon their rights of free use.
If Joe sixpack would go and ask three questions. 1. can I make a backup copy 2. Can I shift formats so I can play it on a different device and 3. Can I sell it to some one else who can use it just the same as I did when I own it?
If they would just not buy anything that broke those rules. Locked down media would not be an issue. Corporations would not be pushing "by you purchasing this, you give up your fair use rights". Instead they would have to deal with fair use as they always have. On a level playing field with their customers.
To bad the more they see ways to remove pesky "fair use" rights and the more laws they make against circumvention of digital protection. They have to deal with the other end. Bandwith becoming cheaper, and it is easier to distribute and use a "broken" copy of a digtial product than it is to use the original.
But developers know. Why would they target Vista other than to make sure UAC is not an issue for their software? If customers had the choice between two programs that are pretty equivalent, one requiring an upgrade to Vista and the other one will run on XP just fine, which one do they think will get purchased?
It's about apps and developers. Microsoft stays ahead of Mac and Linux and drives customers to ever greater levels of lock in via the upgrade cycle. Wine has always been playing catch up. Microsoft handed them 2001-2004 while working on Longhorn. Then Microsoft ceded 2005-2007 while working on Vista. Now Microsoft has further given them 2008-2010.
Believe me. Microsoft does not want customers to be able to sit down and look at the list of apps that will run under wine and go. iTunes...check. Photoship...check. Microsoft Office...check. AutoCAD...check. Quickbooks...check.
Microsoft has to have a new version of windows with enough compelling stuff in it to keep people hooked on technology that will not run on alternative platforms. If developers do not write such software. If they write software that will run just fine in wine. Microsoft loses customers.
They understand this. After all their rise to power was in the PC Clone market. People left the IBM hardware because the clones ran the same software just fine at a lower cost without. You also were not locked into one Vendor that dictated all the terms.
It just goes to show you that Windows is not ready for the desktop. As a Linux user the default behavior "just works."
You don't have to muck around in settings and configure the system for sane behavior with sudo. No need to fiddle with everything to get this fine grained control. With Linux and Mac OS. It just works out of the box.
Maybe someday Microsoft will be able to offer security and the same level of user experience that other operating systems offer. But today is not that day and Vista is not that OS.
Once again a chance to grouse about Vista. On my Linux Desktop I can re-arrange the items on my desktop, delete and add icons. I can also rearrange and recategorize my menus. No problem. My menu is my menu.
I will admit that you need to know a little administrator fu to be able to change the default menus or add an icon to every users desktop. Or to change their menus
But it still does not excuse Vista from that fact that if you do any real work at overhauling what is on the desktop or in the menus. You WILL get UAC prompts for many items you change. Then to add insult to injury. You will receive two or three prompts on each of these items when you move, rename or delete them.
I work in a business environment. For a "small company" As in 50 million a year in business and about 70 desktops. So we are larger than "mom and pop" but smaller than "corporate".
Luckily the PC's that came with Vista had professional on them, so we were able to painlessly downgrade to XP. However before we did that. we did run Vista for a month to put it through its paces.
It is truly sad that UAC is such a screw up. There are applications that install and work fine if you right click on them and do a "Run As" and choose a privileged account to do the install from. Whereas if you just run the installer on a restricted account, you get a UAC prompt, the program installs, but does not run correctly.
Turning off UAC prompts and having things "automatically" run as a privileged user is still not the same as "Run As" and choosing an privileged account.
You can say it is the fault of whoever wrote the program. But the fact remains, Run As: Administrator yields different results than a UAC privilege escalation. And by "different" I don't mean in a good way.
You should try Symantec WinFax. Oh what a joy. It must be installed with a local account with admin permission. If you install it from a domain account it will never run on that machine till you reinstall the OS. When it runs, it has to run on an account with with complete read/write privileges on the C:\Windows or C:\WinNT folder. It creates a temp file in the windows folder when ever it ques a file to be sent as a fax.
Not really. Developers know that most of their install base is staying with XP. So why bother jumping through the hoops to make a new Vista version? They know Microsoft already considers Vista the ME of the new decade. They are holding out to develop for Windows 7. Or better yet, discover that XP apps run just fine in 7.
With no compelling software to drive people to Vista. With users knowing to avoid Vista. With users downgrading back to XP. Microsoft has some problems
Double digit growth does not come from customers holding on to their old systems and trying to find a way NOT to buy Vista if they have to purchase something new.
What if you come in into intimate contact with a magnet?
I have to agree. That is one thing that people don't think of when they think of freedom of speech and tolerence.
Someone advocating something is speech. Someone against the same thing is speech. Both of which should be allowed. Someone just yelling "work from home, let me show you how" is advertising and NOT free speech. Not all points of view should be protected. Speech designed to keep others or anyone from being heard (spam) would fall in that category.
Easy. The mirror shows the fairest in the land Google. When "kill rates" looks at the mirror, he gets his way. The mirror lies and shows the fairest in the land to be "yahoo" then one "kill rates" is able to purchase. Then when he is not looking again. The mirror goes back to showing the truth....
Seriously Dag.
I was trying to be funny.
First off thank you for your repo's. They really made it much easier to run RedHat and Mandrake back in the day before I went back to slack then Ubuntu.
Secondly, I really did not realize that the repo was named after you. I really thought it was a slang term from some European language. Aproximating "The Coolest" or something. I.E. this is Dag Wieers Archive.
Which brings me to my third point. I do not recall ever reading you at Slashdot, or them linking to some article or post of yours elseware. I have NEVER seen your name any other place than given out as a URL for finding decent RPM packages. This is the first time I have ever even considered Dag Wieers was an actual person, not just a repo. I have never heard you complain about binary drivers issues, kernel latency issues. If Novell is really evil or Linux's friend. I have never heard you make a public statement on some controversial issue or hear you prognosticate on where Linux is going or what year is the "Year of the Linux Desktop."
Fourthly, I just KNEW that if you were on Slashdot, some how you would have a UID that would shame me. This has got to be like the best day of my life. While trying to be funny I got modded a troll and put in my place by someone with a UID under 5000. Ouch!
Fifthly, I really was trying to be funny. Just the fact that it looked like to me you came out of now where to speak on this subject was just to perfect to say "Oh, I have never heard of him either, he must be Red Hat's sock puppet" and then make an analogy to how Twitter tries to make himself look better my beincg a sock puppet.
Sixthly, I never REALLY thought you were a sock puppet. I also never really thought you read Slashdot. I thought I was going be able to a) knock twitter, b) say something witty c) never havd Dag Wieers who I just found out was a real person hear me make a joke at his expense.
Seventh, as far as I know. Red Hat speaks for Red Hat. I don't think they employ astroturfing or using sock puppets to say what they have to say. They are not like Microsoft.
Seventhly, I just wonder how twitter got mod points to mod ME a troll
Apparently he is a sock puppet for Redhat much like one of twittners following. Red Hat did not even need to respond, Wieers steped forward to make a statement.
Back when I used RPM based distro's I used his archives. But I was not even aware he was a person. I thought Dag Wieers was German or Austrian for Linux Repo or something. This is the FIST time I ever heard him speak.
Having seen homeless people thriving in their natural environment. I would suggest we get the whale shopping carts to help them survive.
4. Kill all open source products that compete against our products
As much as Microsoft needs to protect their cash cow Microsoft Office it would not surprise me if they were out to get Zimbra. I don't find Zimbra THAT impressive. Who knows, maybe Microsoft is willing to spend 40 billion to kill it? But it explains Microsofts decision as much as anything else.
Maybe Balmer needs a tin foil hat to stop the bad voices from talking to him?
I agree that the more people search, the better chance you have of digging through the searches and clicks to decide what is relevant. But do you really think that if more people search for aardvark then aaardvark and click through on Live Search. That Live Search will figure it out?
I would say past history has shown that Microsoft deserves it placement in search engine quality. They pump ads in as search results. They were to spend 150 million to write a better search engine. They still cant even match google.
It is like all of their products. Their search is "good enough" if you don't bother to look for anything else. If you look, their is always something that beats their products.
The fact that Google is smart enough to consider the possibility that someone who is searching for aadvark might be searching for aaadvark. Because heack, lots of people are looking for aaardvark, lots of people go to that site, and lots of people who search for aardvark then search for aaardvark and go there.
Microsofts "good" technology is not good enough to figure that out. However Googles technology is.
You know. All the people of any integrity seem to have left over the last 3 months.
They have done excellent work. Both in taking OLPC from a dream to an actual product. Also in getting out before the word "Microsoft Windows" has been publicly associated with the work they have done on it.