actually, this is a possibility, years ago, (for those of you too young to remember,) there was a rap group called 2live crew. having gotten in trouble with a sheriff by the name of Navarro, they went and found a fan with the same name, got him to sign a release so they could use his name and went on to release a song called "Fuck Navarro" (or words to that effect.)
it could be argued that the actual name of the OS is
OS X 10.4
all the cat names are internal "code" names that get out and are popularized. For a counter example, do you really think that Microsoft is going to release under the name "Longhorn"? I doubt it.
it might be worth noting that while the Jaguar packaging emphasized the fur/spots pattern, none of the other OS X packaging has.
for that matter, 10.1 was called "Puma" and I don't recall the sneaker manufacturer suing...
I posted a bit quickly, sorry. I was just recalling that this theory had been put forth before, and though the details may have been off, the thought was in a similar vein.
(eventually I also remembered that in a later article he stated that the 'secret' protocol (that he heard about from an MS employee) that MS was working on which triggered his concern was actually IPV6...)
I tend to agree that Cringely's proposals frequently lack something, (practicality, sanity...) if they didn't, he would just make them instead of proposing that a proposal be made. the ID system he proposed is not much of an improvement. but he does have a weekly column to fill, so fill it he must I guess
On the bright side, he does sometimes have that other 50%.
Cringely had a bit about this a while back as well, I haven't read enough of TFAs to know if they are really arguing on exactly the same point, but it seems similar... http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802. html
historical note for reference, my first machine was an apple IIe, and then a long break of using other people's computers, (at work, house, whatever) Unix (AIX), Macs and Amigas in College, PCs with various flavors of windows at various jobs, (won a PC at Siggraph one year,) but when I eventually decided to buy a machine, it was for my own creative work. (at the time video/photo/music, creative stuff...) I wanted to buy a machine that had good creative software available for it, and could easily connect to the various peripherals that those endeavors required. so I bought a Mac. (secondary reason was because I didn't want my job to think that they could tell me to take work home with me, but that is beside the point, and these days no longer valid.)
The primary thing that keeps me on a macintosh, and the thing that makes me shudder when I sit at a machine running something else, is familiarity. I suspect that this would be true for anyone reading this website. you get used to things. I have noticed that there are a fair number of people here who for one reason or another use more than one OS, and all of them have their favorite, (a frequent remark is along the lines of "I use %s at work and %s to get any work done", anOS, anotherOS ) I figure most people have the same experience with their method of working, whatever the context. (talk to a carpenter about saws someday.)
there are some simple little things that I like about the mac UI that are things that have not changed since the beginning, the title bar for instance, as opposed to the task bar. On an apple, the big bold bit of type in the top left tells me the application, there is an apple there, but "you are working in Photoshop." if I look at the task bar on a windows machine, to me it says "you are working in Windows"
This is a small thing, but it is of subtleties like this that the experience of working on a mac becomes "doing things" rather than "working" and to me, that is all the difference in the world.
But, if you are used to windows and are successful with it, the cost, (in terms of changing habits rather than money) may very well not be worth it. It was for me, but YMMV. having said all that, I tend to do much of my text editing these days in a terminal version of emacs, (not the carbon or X one.) so please take this with an appropriately sized grain of salt.
Thank you for flying the friendly skies, do come again.
the biggest things that have changed in the OS are really below the surface.
for the developer, I think CoreData, CoreImage, CoreVideo...
the thing there is that when developers take advantage of this, you will need to upgrade to use the neat new features in those new applications that take advantage of them.
CoreAudio, from panther, made creating audio plug-ins (for logic, live, etc.) relatively easy to build functions that work in a variety of applications as they are based on the architecture of the OS rather than the plug-in architecture of a particular application. (apologies for the sentence structure...)
I would love to see the ability to create image filters that could be used in a variety of manipulation programs, ( btw, is the CoreSet available to darwin?) and have it then be possible to generate a simple image manipulation framework that relied entirely on CoreImage/Video units.
having tried demos recently (of live and logic), it makes it easier to choose the application based on its core usability, rather than the presence of a particular reverb. the Audio Units work the same in both environments. Shake already does something similar, its composite trees are based on nodes, which are themselves based on command line modules, now move that thought out to the OS level, and make it available to every application.
...is it just me or does this seem like small tools and pipes...
that the volume of messages could do some damage...
although, having RTFA, this doesn't seem much different than the crash reporter that mozilla or apple use. And we all dutifully report crashes to them, no? (is it just me?)
I have to admit being much more nervous about MS doing it than those others, but I am probably just a victim of somebody's marketing...
(I also don't use a PC anymore, so what do I care...)
true enough, but why those two? I grant you a political system based on many parties tends to get a bit messy, but perhaps we might do with one or two others? If for nothing else, to change/shake the established structure, (and force all those marketing people to think up new words for "evil")
It's not like the faces of the two parties are consistent through history, count back 80-100 years and look at a profile of the republican and democratic parties, and see which you think is which...
unfortunately, history seems to have shown that the non-Republican majority, (when there is one,) is not very good at playing* like this.
I like to think that is because they are trying to maintain high ground, but I reserve the right to be disappointed.
*I have a personal pet theory that the political state in general is in such a shambles right now partially because there is the perception by the people involved in it that process is a game. Where once people compromised on issues as an effort to work out problems, and try to come to an equitable (or at least somewhat acceptable) solution, today compromising on issues is viewed like a game, similar to the scene in "Monty Python and the Life of Brian" where the hero ends up being forced to go through the motions of bargaining, because that. is. how. the. game. is. played. (I hope that I'm using that punctuation idiom correctly.)
It seems similar to the case of the "religion" replacing the "god" and nobody seems to have noticed.
I know this is stupid grammar nazi stuff, but did you mean
a) a president who is a Democrat?
or
b) a democratically elected president?
(given that in the "popular" (as in windows*) press, we have b.) I'm actually not trying to be a grammar nazi, but I thought it was an interesting way to put it, all things considered. I'm always on the lookout for pithiness, I keep hoping it will strike me one day...
get out while you have a chance. <sarcasm>what, and become a target?</sarcasm>
I've been trying for some time actually, I used to work for a well known traveling circus, and had high hopes of getting out that way, but the major reason I was never sent overseas was because it was difficult if not impossible to get a short term visa, (and more tellingly, insurance,) for a U.S citizen. Gods know that had I gone, I probably would have stayed. I'm very much a fan of the idea of picking an area that comes close to agreeing with your ideology and moving there, however it seems that many popular destinations are worried (probably justifiably,) about infestation.
regarding gas prices being high, that is a narrow view, could the readers in Non U.S. countries chime in with the current price per litre of gas in your local area? (remember to *4 for the approximate price per gallon...) the price of oil in the U.S. has been artificially low for some time due to subsidies and things like the tactic I heard this morning of dubya "asking" the Saudis to increase production, though the latter will probably not affect the price you and I pay. Those of us who lived in the SF bay area may remember the price hike after the Tosco refinery accident that has never gone back down. NPR reports that SF still has the highest price for gas at the pump, and that is STILL way below the world average.
btw, as far as "No Child Left Behind" goes, has anyone ever asked "On the way where?" Does pi==3 still in certain areas of the U.S.?
It has been said that the biggest contributor to the Gross Domestic Product, (a figure that tallies the amount of money moved around within the country,) is a terminally ill cancer patient with litigious tendencies.
Could we please find a better measure of the "health" of an economy?
The reference is from "I'm a Stranger Here Myself" by Bill Bryson. <plug variety="unsolicited">While he may not be considered by some to be the greatest arbiter of public policy, I find that he has a thought provoking view on many issues, and I recommend his books highly. Especially his audio books, he reads his own material very well.</plug>
what's your point? in many latin based languages, the modifier precedes the modified. even in english some people say "the uhhh... 22nd of april..." which is the way that I would normally tell someone the date (I tend not to keep track,) if I were referring to a date in the future, rather than answering the question, "What is today's date?"
It does seem to make a bit of sense to move from the specific, (day) to the general (year) in that order.
the may be a dumber question/comment,
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but if this is the case, and all languages that gcc deals with are parsed into a single "meta" language, then there might be a possibility of working out a more comprehensive way of enabling language interoperability? or at least translation?
Am I the only one who thinks it might be a good idea? I for one would love to see the ability to write bits of a program in a language suited to the task, and then have it translated to the language of the platform I'm working on. I like the idea of using python for mac programs using pyObjC, but every once in a while it would be great to write a utility function in perl, and be able to compile/translate it to C/objectiveC which could then be accessed directly from the cocoa GUI or re-edited in the native syntax. personally I would like to spend more time working in lisp, and if that could be dealt with in this sort of way, it would be bliss.
How many people here have never said, "Damn, this bit would be so easy if I could write it in _______!" (or words to that effect.)
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actually, this is a possibility, years ago, (for those of you too young to remember,) there was a rap group called 2live crew. having gotten in trouble with a sheriff by the name of Navarro, they went and found a fan with the same name, got him to sign a release so they could use his name and went on to release a song called "Fuck Navarro" (or words to that effect.)
I wonder if apple might do the same here...
Ford didn't sue over "Jaguar" either.
is there one for "Cheetah" (bad jokes aside)
(sorry for posting twice like this, I've had a bit of wine and hit the submit button too fast...)
it could be argued that the actual name of the OS is
OS X 10.4
all the cat names are internal "code" names that get out and are popularized. For a counter example, do you really think that Microsoft is going to release under the name "Longhorn"? I doubt it.
it might be worth noting that while the Jaguar packaging emphasized the fur/spots pattern, none of the other OS X packaging has.
for that matter, 10.1 was called "Puma" and I don't recall the sneaker manufacturer suing...
I posted a bit quickly, sorry. I was just recalling that this theory had been put forth before, and though the details may have been off, the thought was in a similar vein.
(eventually I also remembered that in a later article he stated that the 'secret' protocol (that he heard about from an MS employee) that MS was working on which triggered his concern was actually IPV6...)
I tend to agree that Cringely's proposals frequently lack something, (practicality, sanity...) if they didn't, he would just make them instead of proposing that a proposal be made. the ID system he proposed is not much of an improvement. but he does have a weekly column to fill, so fill it he must I guess
On the bright side, he does sometimes have that other 50%.
Cringely had a bit about this a while back as well, I haven't read enough of TFAs to know if they are really arguing on exactly the same point, but it seems similar.... html
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802
probably nothing,
historical note for reference, my first machine was an apple IIe, and then a long break of using other people's computers, (at work, house, whatever) Unix (AIX), Macs and Amigas in College, PCs with various flavors of windows at various jobs, (won a PC at Siggraph one year,) but when I eventually decided to buy a machine, it was for my own creative work. (at the time video/photo/music, creative stuff...) I wanted to buy a machine that had good creative software available for it, and could easily connect to the various peripherals that those endeavors required. so I bought a Mac. (secondary reason was because I didn't want my job to think that they could tell me to take work home with me, but that is beside the point, and these days no longer valid.)
The primary thing that keeps me on a macintosh, and the thing that makes me shudder when I sit at a machine running something else, is familiarity. I suspect that this would be true for anyone reading this website. you get used to things. I have noticed that there are a fair number of people here who for one reason or another use more than one OS, and all of them have their favorite, (a frequent remark is along the lines of "I use %s at work and %s to get any work done", anOS, anotherOS ) I figure most people have the same experience with their method of working, whatever the context. (talk to a carpenter about saws someday.)
there are some simple little things that I like about the mac UI that are things that have not changed since the beginning, the title bar for instance, as opposed to the task bar. On an apple, the big bold bit of type in the top left tells me the application, there is an apple there, but "you are working in Photoshop." if I look at the task bar on a windows machine, to me it says "you are working in Windows"
This is a small thing, but it is of subtleties like this that the experience of working on a mac becomes "doing things" rather than "working" and to me, that is all the difference in the world.
But, if you are used to windows and are successful with it, the cost, (in terms of changing habits rather than money) may very well not be worth it. It was for me, but YMMV. having said all that, I tend to do much of my text editing these days in a terminal version of emacs, (not the carbon or X one.) so please take this with an appropriately sized grain of salt.
Thank you for flying the friendly skies, do come again.
for the developer, I think CoreData, CoreImage, CoreVideo...
the thing there is that when developers take advantage of this, you will need to upgrade to use the neat new features in those new applications that take advantage of them.
CoreAudio, from panther, made creating audio plug-ins (for logic, live, etc.) relatively easy to build functions that work in a variety of applications as they are based on the architecture of the OS rather than the plug-in architecture of a particular application. (apologies for the sentence structure...)
I would love to see the ability to create image filters that could be used in a variety of manipulation programs, ( btw, is the CoreSet available to darwin?) and have it then be possible to generate a simple image manipulation framework that relied entirely on CoreImage/Video units.
having tried demos recently (of live and logic), it makes it easier to choose the application based on its core usability, rather than the presence of a particular reverb. the Audio Units work the same in both environments. Shake already does something similar, its composite trees are based on nodes, which are themselves based on command line modules, now move that thought out to the OS level, and make it available to every application.
...is it just me or does this seem like small tools and pipes...
"inside the RDF you get to hear everyone else scream..."
kind of like the textile requirement that RISD used to have..... (waaaay back when...)
it was from "cool hand luke"
the prison guard talking to/about paul newman
http://imdb.com/title/tt0061512/quotes
that the volume of messages could do some damage...
although, having RTFA, this doesn't seem much different than the crash reporter that mozilla or apple use. And we all dutifully report crashes to them, no? (is it just me?)
I have to admit being much more nervous about MS doing it than those others, but I am probably just a victim of somebody's marketing...
(I also don't use a PC anymore, so what do I care...)
didn't people complain about the one in the corvette?
unbelievable.
gods forbid MS starts making cars, lest we forget...
h tml m ade_cars.html 1
http://www.ehumorcentral.com/Directory/Jokes/829.
http://www.jardmail.co.uk/misc/mscars.shtml
http://www.jokesunlimited.com/jokes/if_microsoft_
http://www.maxwebportal.com/article_read.asp?id=2
etc. etc.
(though if you look at the last one, there's an entertaining response towards the bottom...)
Though isn't this a bit more like the Phone Company only telling you about Chevron?
just because we may not immediately notice that they are gone doesn't make it okay that they are missing.
the fact that there is 1% who HAVE felt discomfort is bad. just bad.
true enough, but why those two? I grant you a political system based on many parties tends to get a bit messy, but perhaps we might do with one or two others? If for nothing else, to change/shake the established structure, (and force all those marketing people to think up new words for "evil")
It's not like the faces of the two parties are consistent through history, count back 80-100 years and look at a profile of the republican and democratic parties, and see which you think is which...
please don't give them any ideas...
unfortunately, history seems to have shown that the non-Republican majority, (when there is one,) is not very good at playing* like this.
I like to think that is because they are trying to maintain high ground, but I reserve the right to be disappointed.
*I have a personal pet theory that the political state in general is in such a shambles right now partially because there is the perception by the people involved in it that process is a game. Where once people compromised on issues as an effort to work out problems, and try to come to an equitable (or at least somewhat acceptable) solution, today compromising on issues is viewed like a game, similar to the scene in "Monty Python and the Life of Brian" where the hero ends up being forced to go through the motions of bargaining, because that. is. how. the. game. is. played. (I hope that I'm using that punctuation idiom correctly.)
It seems similar to the case of the "religion" replacing the "god" and nobody seems to have noticed.
UNTIL there is a Democratic president!
I know this is stupid grammar nazi stuff, but did you mean
a) a president who is a Democrat?
or
b) a democratically elected president?
(given that in the "popular" (as in windows*) press, we have b.)
I'm actually not trying to be a grammar nazi, but I thought it was an interesting way to put it, all things considered. I'm always on the lookout for pithiness, I keep hoping it will strike me one day...
*yes, yes, I know, this reference is off topic...
get out while you have a chance.
<sarcasm>what, and become a target?</sarcasm>
I've been trying for some time actually, I used to work for a well known traveling circus, and had high hopes of getting out that way, but the major reason I was never sent overseas was because it was difficult if not impossible to get a short term visa, (and more tellingly, insurance,) for a U.S citizen. Gods know that had I gone, I probably would have stayed. I'm very much a fan of the idea of picking an area that comes close to agreeing with your ideology and moving there, however it seems that many popular destinations are worried (probably justifiably,) about infestation.
regarding gas prices being high, that is a narrow view, could the readers in Non U.S. countries chime in with the current price per litre of gas in your local area? (remember to *4 for the approximate price per gallon...) the price of oil in the U.S. has been artificially low for some time due to subsidies and things like the tactic I heard this morning of dubya "asking" the Saudis to increase production, though the latter will probably not affect the price you and I pay. Those of us who lived in the SF bay area may remember the price hike after the Tosco refinery accident that has never gone back down. NPR reports that SF still has the highest price for gas at the pump, and that is STILL way below the world average.
btw, as far as "No Child Left Behind" goes, has anyone ever asked "On the way where?" Does pi==3 still in certain areas of the U.S.?
It has been said that the biggest contributor to the Gross Domestic Product, (a figure that tallies the amount of money moved around within the country,) is a terminally ill cancer patient with litigious tendencies.
Could we please find a better measure of the "health" of an economy?
The reference is from "I'm a Stranger Here Myself" by Bill Bryson. <plug variety="unsolicited">While he may not be considered by some to be the greatest arbiter of public policy, I find that he has a thought provoking view on many issues, and I recommend his books highly. Especially his audio books, he reads his own material very well.</plug>
with Eastasia
we have always been allies of Eurasia...
or was it the other way around?
it's been a while since I've read it.
noo, this is
e in italia, loro dicono <>
what's your point? in many latin based languages, the modifier precedes the modified. even in english some people say "the uhhh... 22nd of april..." which is the way that I would normally tell someone the date (I tend not to keep track,) if I were referring to a date in the future, rather than answering the question, "What is today's date?"
It does seem to make a bit of sense to move from the specific, (day) to the general (year) in that order.
but if this is the case, and all languages that gcc deals with are parsed into a single "meta" language, then there might be a possibility of working out a more comprehensive way of enabling language interoperability? or at least translation?
Am I the only one who thinks it might be a good idea? I for one would love to see the ability to write bits of a program in a language suited to the task, and then have it translated to the language of the platform I'm working on. I like the idea of using python for mac programs using pyObjC, but every once in a while it would be great to write a utility function in perl, and be able to compile/translate it to C/objectiveC which could then be accessed directly from the cocoa GUI or re-edited in the native syntax. personally I would like to spend more time working in lisp, and if that could be dealt with in this sort of way, it would be bliss.
How many people here have never said, "Damn, this bit would be so easy if I could write it in _______!" (or words to that effect.)