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Opera's CEO to Swim From Norway to the USA

Viggeh! writes "An overly excited Jon S. von Tetzchner, CEO, Opera Software, today proclaimed at an internal company meeting that if the download numbers of the new Opera 8 Web browser reach 1 million within the first four days of the launch, he will swim from Norway to the USA with only one stop-over for a cup of hot chocolate at his mother's house in his home country, Iceland. The new browser was released Tuesday and was downloaded 600.000 times in the first 48 hours since release. The challenge will end on Saturday at 0900 a.m. CET, so if you want to try out some new software and make the CEO stick to his big words, download it at Opera's webpage(direct link)."

563 comments

  1. Well then. by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 5, Funny

    I guess he doesn't have much faith in his own product eh?

    1. Re:Well then. by Craig_P92669 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Somebody want to mention this to SCO? Surely there's a million people here that would pay $695 to see a certain somebody freeze his nads off and get hypothermia.

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    2. Re:Well then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's make him swim and just download it...
      It's the number of downloads that counts and not the number of users :-)
      http://my.opera.com/justsmile/affiliate/

    3. Re:Well then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "He probably likes his product but does not believe its useful for everyone. This is why would he would be surprised to see a million downloads that soon."
      This is obviously a load of crap. 600K downloads in 48 hours? How would he be surprised to see a million downloads soon?
    4. Re:Well then. by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 0, Troll
      I guess he doesn't have much faith in his own product eh?

      I guess he figures people will just use the numerous free web browsers like Mozilla, Firefox, or even Internet Explorer. People that use Opera remind me of Amiga users in the mid 1990's... rapidly fanatical about supporting their product as superior at a time when the world wasn't paying any attention to them.

    5. Re:Well then. by God!+Awful+2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "He probably likes his product but does not believe its useful for everyone. This is why would he would be surprised to see a million downloads that soon."

      This is obviously a load of crap. 600K downloads in 48 hours? How would he be surprised to see a million downloads soon?

      Heh... one day after the story about PR firms, and we're still discussing this?

      This is a friggin' press release for god's sake. The CEO is not surprised about anything. This whole outrageous statement was no doubt just a plan to stir up attention. And no guarantee that Opera didn't pay to have this story published in Slashdot anyway.

      -a

    6. Re:Well then. by TeeAgeSee · · Score: 1

      Oh boy, how sad.....

    7. Re:Well then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You poor little troll.

  2. lets get him... by HTL2001 · · Score: 3, Funny

    slashdot should be able to crank up that number, so long as the web server doesn't go down

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    1. Re:lets get him... by alexandreracine · · Score: 0

      I wont use Opera, BUT I WANT TO SEE THAT GUY SWIM on National TV! :)

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    2. Re:lets get him... by sharkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      On Slashdot, the webservers are the ONLY things that ever "go down".

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    3. Re:lets get him... by afd8856 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, it won't be the case. I'm downloading it from a server in my country, redirected from the official Opera download page.

      I'm doing my part, I'm downloading Opera right now (although I only use for web development). Hopefully the power of Slashdot will be put to good use at least one time.

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    4. Re:lets get him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      most of us will need http://www.opera.com/download/ to find the the non win32 versions

      Uummm... No. Most people visiting slashdot are using Windows. Of course many of them claim to be using Gentoo or OpenBSD or whatever to make themselves sound cool.

    5. Re:lets get him... by Odin's+Raven · · Score: 5, Funny
      [...] so long as the web server doesn't go down

      A tiny script runs on the Opera web server...waiting...watching...

      #! /bin/sh
      # Author : Jon S. von Tetzcher
      # Purpose: Please god, I don't wanna die!

      if [ $(cat /var/log/opera8_download_counter) == 999999 ]
      then
      /sbin/ifdown eth0
      fi
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    6. Re:lets get him... by h4rm0ny · · Score: 1


      Yep. I'm doing my bit now - 34% downloaded at time of typing. Actually, I have a website I ought to test in different browsers, so now that I have it, it'll probably get installed too.

      It's touching to see someone willing to die for the sake of their product. :D

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    7. Re:lets get him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      YES! I KNOW IT'S A JOKE, HOWEVER ....

      Dude! That is a crappy bit of code. The likelihood
      of it ever working is vanishingly small.

      Several problems:

      Because your test is not synchronized with the
      download counter your chances of stopping
      at 999999 are, well, like winning the lottery.

      Having determined that there have been 999999
      downloads there is a nasty race condition before
      the interface is brought down.

      Believe it or not, once the counter reaches 999999
      the number of downloads may be higher because
      the process updating the counter hasn't committed
      its changes yet.

      For extra credit I advise that you go away and
      rethink your solution otherwise your boss will
      be pissed at having to swim through shark
      infested water. I also see a pink slip on
      your horizon.

      - Moomin

    8. Re:lets get him... by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      > I also see a pink slip on your horizon.



      Pink slips are an american thing. It will be something different in Norway. In the UK and in Ireland, they are called P45s. In the UK, they are coloured green. I don't know what colour the Irish P45s are.

    9. Re:lets get him... by aichpvee · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't need the download page, the link on the front page should take you to the correct download for your operating system.

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    10. Re:lets get him... by Afrosheen · · Score: 3, Funny

      The Irish P45's are pantone 1511, "Guinness Brown".

    11. Re:lets get him... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe they're actually pink in Ireland. But it was a couple of years since I worked there...

  3. 600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    talk about overusing significant digits

    1. Re:600.000 times by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      In parts of Europe, numbers are delimited with a period "." rather than a comma ",".

      Therefore, 600.000 is 600,000.

    2. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      In parts of Europe, people blatantly unable to grasp the basics of humour are called Americans.

    3. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, because we spell it humor.

    4. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point was that you are blatantly unable to grasp the basics of humour. Your reading comprehension could use some work also.

    5. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, what was your point again?

      That you don't understand what humour is. You just proved the point yourself by your last post.

    6. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, we spell "it" the same way you do.

    7. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      In Canada, we use the ONLY GOOD way: a space for delimiter and period for decimals.

      And that's the ONLY way you can write big (>1000) floating-point (decimals) coordinates and still have everyone figure it out without explanations.

      Exemple:
      546 239.472, 654 371.653

      Unless you don't use a delimiter, of course. But then your numbers are fsuking hard to read.

    8. Re:600.000 times by Patik · · Score: 1, Funny

      Somethings wrong with Slashdot -- you're posting on the 4th day of the 22nd month!

    9. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      But you have new rules of grammar involving invisible quotation marks?

    10. Re:600.000 times by AvitarX · · Score: 1, Funny

      yeah, because that doesn't look like 4 different number, eh.

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    11. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Which Canada are YOU from?

      Everyone I know uses commas as delimiters, unless you're talking about a pocket calculator...

    12. Re:600.000 times by Wybaar · · Score: 1

      Space-delimited is nice, but the best way to write large numbers is in scientific notation:

      5.46239472 x 10^5
      6.54371653 x 10^5

      If you follow the usual convention that the significand must be in the interval [1, 10) then you wouldn't even technically need the decimal point -- the decimal point would have to be after the first digit. Of course, to avoid confusion you'd usually want to leave it in.

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    13. Re:600.000 times by thefirelane · · Score: 2, Funny

      talk about overusing significant digits

      Yeah, every where I look, another number beginning with 6. I agree, it is overused.

    14. Re:600.000 times by Valarauk · · Score: 1, Funny

      In parts of Europe, people blatantly unable to grasp the basics of humour are called Americans. ... I don't get it.

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    15. Re:600.000 times by Me303 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      öh :/ i dont never understand why somewhere month goes first.. of course its go.. first day then month and then year (like numbers smallest first then bigger)..

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    16. Re:600.000 times by WaterBreath · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Any computer geek should know that it's year first, then month, then day.

      The text sorts better that way.

    17. Re:600.000 times by Fredge · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I'm not sure about standards elsewhere in the world, but in America if you ask someone the date they will likely reply with the format of "April 22, 2005" thus in numeric format it is 04/22/2005 (MM/DD/YYYY) - the numeric format corresponds to the spoken format.

    18. Re:600.000 times by WaterBreath · · Score: 0

      If you follow the "engineering" convention that's used by computers, it's even shorter and simpler: 6e5

    19. Re:600.000 times by utexaspunk · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Strange, I thought they were called Germans...

    20. Re:600.000 times by Minwee · · Score: 4, Funny

      He just said that Americans are a joke.

      Go bomb him.

    21. Re:600.000 times by halothane · · Score: 1

      I know it's funny, but the European reversal of usage of the comma and the period in numbers is confusing for us ordinary mortals.

    22. Re:600.000 times by biglig2 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah-ha! Then since von Tetzchner is European, he must be an extraordinary immortal. That's why he's going to be able to survive the swim!

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    23. Re:600.000 times by jcuervo · · Score: 1
      In parts of Europe, numbers are delimited with a period "." rather than a comma ",".
      Y'know, I never thought to ask, but what happens when you need decimal places?
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    24. Re:600.000 times by circusboy · · Score: 1

      e in italia, loro dicono <>

      what's your point? in many latin based languages, the modifier precedes the modified. even in english some people say "the uhhh... 22nd of april..." which is the way that I would normally tell someone the date (I tend not to keep track,) if I were referring to a date in the future, rather than answering the question, "What is today's date?"

      It does seem to make a bit of sense to move from the specific, (day) to the general (year) in that order.

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    25. Re:600.000 times by MikeS2k · · Score: 1

      then they use a comma.

      so one and a half would be written "1,5". Took me a while to figure out what half of them were on about :P

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    26. Re:600.000 times by Shalda · · Score: 1

      You probably put mayo on those numbers too, served up on white bread, eh?

    27. Re:600.000 times by ThJ · · Score: 1

      It works like this in Norway (which is a part of Europe) as well, so I can confirm this. It creates some degree of confusion when we set the Windows locale to use comma as the decimal delimiter (happens automatically when the country is set to Norway) and some stupid program ignoring the locale still wants it with a period.

    28. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. A period is what many women experience about once per month. Perhaps you meant something else.

    29. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wtf? insightful?

    30. Re:600.000 times by jcuervo · · Score: 1
      Y'know, I never thought to ask, but what happens when you need decimal places?
      then they use a comma.
      Alright, I don't ever want to hear any more bitching about the mm/dd/yyyy format from countries that use commas and periods like that. :P
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    31. Re:600.000 times by Valarauk · · Score: 1

      My sarcasim is completely wasted on the /. crowd. You must be an American of course or you would have gotten that, right?

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    32. Re:600.000 times by Knightfall · · Score: 1

      Psssst, over here.

      It is because you are not really funny, and when we laugh, we are indeed laughing at you, not with you. Sorry for the reality check.

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      Knightfall
    33. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Næ, se, en finnjmarking!

    34. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      UK Male = Cold Limp Fish

      Yes, the best way to a man's heart is fish and chips.

    35. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't even try it, mate. The appalling truth is that my cock is much bigger than yours.

      It's not the size of your cock but how many hens you have.

    36. Re:600.000 times by Heem · · Score: 1

      Lousy Smarch Weather!

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    37. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that would be a great way to give a phone number. But doing any sort of math would be horrendous, unless of course you are strict about using a multiplication sign.

    38. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not insighful, informative or funny. I can see why the above would get modded up at /.

    39. Re:600.000 times by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      No, I'm pretty sure grandparent was being sarcastic too.

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    40. Re:600.000 times by supmylO · · Score: 1

      Oh god my head hurts.

    41. Re:600.000 times by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

      Only on Slashdot do europeans flock to post about how dumb/unfunny/violent Americans are.

      I guess if we were smarter and funnier we'd find some major UK website and post the same about the British or Europeans in general. Nationalism is for retards, guys.

    42. Re:600.000 times by ollie_ob · · Score: 1

      In parts of Europe, irony gets you.

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    43. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody can be as funny as those wacky English people, especially the ones who log on to American computer websites.

    44. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      NI!

    45. Re:600.000 times by drsquare · · Score: 1

      You know, if you don't like the way a post is moderated, just ignore it and move on, or get an account with moderation points. Just just spam the board by posting multiple anonymous messages making it look like it's more than you who it's disgruntled.

    46. Re:600.000 times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      - I just don't see why one little pill should Cost $30. Drugs aren't so expensive in other countries.
      - In other countries, families also lie on the floor and eat bugs.
      - What countries are those?
      - You ever been to Norway?
      - No.
      - Well, they do it in Norway, and that's why I personally thank God we pay too much for drugs. I mean, uh, the right amount. I mean, not enough. Here, watch this video.

  4. Finally! by MrChris2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A piece of slashvertising I can get behind.

    Opera rocks and this sort of daft challenge whilst obviously ridiculous is just the sort of fun way of marketing the browser I like.

    1. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rocks? You mean sucks rocks?

      - Costs too much (you would think a comodity item like a browser, which is normally free, would be cheap)

      - Crashes all the time (you know, that "where it go?" kind of crap)

      - Doesn't seem to intergrate with GNOME or KDE. On my twinview machine it seems to randomly pick which monitor to open up on. Completely ignoring the window manager. Annoying in the extreme.

      - Doesn't look like Windows, KDE, or GNOME. WTF?! It has its own look on all platforms. Blech.

    2. Re:Finally! by MrChris2 · · Score: 1

      You didnt even load it an see what those ads consist of?
      I have registered Opera at home (so I'm biased), but I use the unregistered version at work at dont notice the adverts at all (I use the slimline text ads but have used the larger graphical ads in the past). I still have more browser real-estate than I get with IE and the ads provide additional revenue for Opera to continue development.

      In short all these 'it has ads' comments are usually based on ignorance and never having used the software.
      Besides I've supported my software (by buying a license), how many (non-corporate) Firefox users do you think have actually paid for it?!

    3. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha, how else would I know so much about it? I use it daily.

      Moving flashing banner ads suck no matter how you look at it.

    4. Re:Finally! by prionic6 · · Score: 1

      > and the ads provide additional revenue for Opera to continue development.

      Only if you click them.

    5. Re:Finally! by MrChris2 · · Score: 1

      Case in point the slash banner at the top of the comments pages is more annoying than the Opera banners that dont flash (as I said, text ads are great)

    6. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Troll.

    7. Re:Finally! by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Somebody already called the troll, but...

      - Costs too much (you would think a comodity item like a browser, which is normally free, would be cheap)

      That's only if you don't use the ads.

      - Crashes all the time (you know, that "where it go?" kind of crap)

      Are you SURE you're not talking about Firefox? Opera's crashes are more along the lines of freezes, and those have all but gone away since the 7.6 previews.

      - Doesn't seem to intergrate with GNOME or KDE. On my twinview machine it seems to randomly pick which monitor to open up on. Completely ignoring the window manager. Annoying in the extreme.

      Don't ask me on this, but I'd be surprised if it DIDN'T at least partially integrate with KDE, seeing as it uses Qt on Linux...

      - Doesn't look like Windows, KDE, or GNOME. WTF?! It has its own look on all platforms. Blech.

      Tools>Appearance>Windows Native>OK. That uses Windows standard windowing on Win32. As for KDE and GNOME, I'm not sure. I think it RESEMBLES the Redmond (KDE) widget set (IIRC - it's been a while since I've had my old Linux box going), but doesn't respect KDE's choice... It DOES look a lot like Windows Native on a Windows running in Classic mode.

  5. IT: Opera's CEO drowns off coast of Norway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Posted by Zonk on 08:51 AM -- Friday April 29 2005
    from the friday-morning-swim dept.
    Viggeh! writes "An overly excited Jon S. von Tetzchner, CEO, Opera Software, today drowned off the coast of Norway after promising to swim to America if Opera managed a million downloads in its first four days. Everyone at Opera is quite sad, but they promise Opera 8.1 will have even more features because that's what he would've wanted. He leaves behind 7 computers, a wife, and 2 children."

    1. Re:IT: Opera's CEO drowns off coast of Norway by ggvaidya · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Don't you mean in the Mysterious Future? ;)

    2. Re:IT: Opera's CEO drowns off coast of Norway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "He leaves behind 7 computers, a wife, 2 children and 1 million downloaded copies of Opera 8."

    3. Re:IT: Opera's CEO drowns off coast of Norway by hawk · · Score: 2, Funny
      >He leaves behind 7 computers, a wife, and 2 children."

      This only seems to allow for three more major releases . . .

      :)

      hawk

  6. Well finally! by biglig2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've seen the slashdot effect kill many a server over the years, but at last we take it to the next level. Hit that link enough, and a man will die!

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    1. Re:Well finally! by Sique · · Score: 1

      Done already for my Win Box, now Linux and Solaris are in the works.

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    2. Re:Well finally! by StarWreck · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Thats got to be one of the funniest things I've ever read on Slashdot. Not only that, but it has proper capitalization... somethig most Slashdotters can't seem to grasp.

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    3. Re:Well finally! by biglig2 · · Score: 1

      You're very kind, although the mods seem to be in two minds about it.

      But should I have capitalized "slashdot"? I don't know, I just don't know....

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  7. First to apply for new job posting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So I guess this means a CEO position will soon be opening in the near future? Where do I send my resume?

    1. Re:First to apply for new job posting by Thondermonst · · Score: 1

      Norway

  8. Why will he do this? by 91degrees · · Score: 0, Troll

    Will it improve the user experience somehow?

    Will it distrupt Microsoft's monopoly on the browser market?

    Will it create world peace?

    No it will not. Since it achieve none of these things, I proclaim the whole excercise pointless and should not be attempted.

    1. Re:Why will he do this? by rpozz · · Score: 1

      Because it will get an article on slashdot and encourage an awful lot of people to try out Opera. Seems to be working.

    2. Re:Why will he do this? by geoffspear · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Why do you continue to breathe?

      Does your breathing improve my web browser's performance somehow?

      Do you, through breathing, disrupt Microsoft's monopoly or create world peace?

      No, it does not. Your continued living is therefore pointless. Please die.

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    3. Re:Why will he do this? by ureshii_akuma · · Score: 2, Funny

      >Will it create world peace?

      Ah, here you need to think, "out-side-the-box," as my dear managing friends with their minds stuck in dreams of the '90s would say.

      You see, during his trip, he is surely to begin to drown. At this point, a beautiful mermaid will rescue him, and take him to a wonderous city under the sea. Here, not only will he learn true love and the meaning of Christmas, but he will also learn the secret to world peace.

      Having also learned the secret ways of the merfolk mystics, he will emerge from the depths and proceed to bring a wave of peace and prosperity to the entire world. The fact that he brings this about through a massive invading merfolk army is a minor detail, one that will surely be forgotten in the history books, where children of the future shall learn how wonderous it is to be alive in a world of peace.

    4. Re:Why will he do this? by ZorinLynx · · Score: 1

      o/~ Up where they code..
      Up where they hack...
      Up where they type all day in the dark...
      Using GNU...
      Wish I could be...
      Part of that wooooooooorld... o/~

    5. Re:Why will he do this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you mean "why does he say he will do this?" then it's to get publicity for his new product launch.

      If you reaally honestly mean "why will he do this?" then uh... he's not really going to.

    6. Re:Why will he do this? by 91degrees · · Score: 0, Troll

      But that just offers an analagous situation. You do not provide any justification for his actions or for my existence.

      Does this mean you agree with me?

    7. Re:Why will he do this? by CarrionBird · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      Yes, we all agree!

      Now go die. Thanks!

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    8. Re:Why will he do this? by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Seems easier to live. Thanks all the same.

    9. Re:Why will he do this? by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Thankyou.

      You see, that's all I wanted. A logical, rational reason for him to do this.

    10. Re:Why will he do this? by CarrionBird · · Score: 1

      De nada.

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  9. Cold by provolt · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can anyone really swim across the northern Atlantic? I would have thought he would freeze.

    Perhaps he'll get on a cruise ship and spend the whole time in the pool?

    1. Re:Cold by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 1, Funny

      Polar bears could. Whilst possible, I don't think that CEO of opera is a polar bear.

      Ooops, I spoke too soon. I guess he is a polar bear.

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    2. Re:Cold by werfele · · Score: 2, Informative

      Tetzchner would not be the first. Benoit Lecomte swam the Atlantic in 1998.

    3. Re:Cold by Manuel+Lafond · · Score: 4, Funny

      DO NOT underestimate Iceland people
      they are all giant hairy barbarians with 100 % cold resistance

      and sometimes they develop software

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    4. Re:Cold by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Tetzchner would not be the first. Benoit Lecomte swam the Atlantic in 1998.

      Yeah, except he crossed between 40 and 50 degrees latitude. Norway's southernmost tip is 58, Iceland is around 65, and even with the Gulf stream, it is cold. I mean you can bathe a while, waterski etc., but for a sustained swim? No way. I doubt he makes it past the first night. Being motionless in that kind of water will bring your body temperature way down, suit or no suit.

      Kjella

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    5. Re:Cold by (v)Jargon(v) · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      No way man! you would def. die.

    6. Re:Cold by M$Lackey · · Score: 0

      Apparently an individual named Benoit Lecomte actually completed the feat. http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=142558 6

    7. Re:Cold by mrdbeaton · · Score: 1

      1. Rent stretch-limo with hot tub.
      2. Jump into Speedos, jump into tub, start treading water.
      3. Drive limo into cargo plane, fly to Iceland.
      4. Drive to mom's house for hot chocolate.
      5. Drive back onto cargo plane and fly to USA.

    8. Re:Cold by Psycizo · · Score: 1

      ...and sometimes, more specifically, games.

    9. Re:Cold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. Norwegians develope software.

    10. Re:Cold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's a goddamn Icelander. They've been doing stuff like that for at least 1000 years now. He'll do it, and then carry off all the women and cattle in New York City.

    11. Re:Cold by drsquare · · Score: 1

      The idea is you don't sit about motionless, you keep swimming.

    12. Re:Cold by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      He did TWO YEARS of training, though.

      Opera's CEO did several hours of training...

  10. Hot chocolate? by blcamp · · Score: 1


    He must have had some aquavit during that interview...

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    1. Re:Hot chocolate? by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Either that or - gasp! - he was J O K I N G.

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    2. Re:Hot chocolate? by |<amikaze · · Score: 1


      Akvavit. Oh Akvavit. I've had a lot of drinks in my life, and I think that the Caraway-flavoured Akvavit I had last new years with my Danish friends was one of the worst tasting drinks I've ever had. It did however knock me on my ass after a few, so that was at least a bit of redemption.

    3. Re:Hot chocolate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Iceland they drink brennivin not Ákavíti (http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/travel/i celand-holland-2000/brennivin.html)

  11. Crap... by Ender_Stonebender · · Score: 1

    ...my internet connection at home is down, and I don't have administrative priveleges on this box (I'm at work). Oh well, maybe I can download it a few times anyway, if they don't have the site blocked...

    --Ender

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  12. But before he jumps in ... by ghoti · · Score: 1

    ... he'll summon his lawyers to sue the guy who violated his NDA and made this internal trade secret public.

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    1. Re:But before he jumps in ... by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

      I would sue any guy who tried to violate my NDAs and if he flashed me his EULA id be even more upset .

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    2. Re:But before he jumps in ... by ghoti · · Score: 1

      I managed to completely botch that joke ... damn. Since the writeup said something about an internal meeting, I thought a little parallel with Apple and ThinkSecret might be funny. Looks like I didn't quite get that across ...

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    3. Re:But before he jumps in ... by circusboy · · Score: 1
      <><
      ll
      ;-)
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  13. Direct Link to Win32 version by Leknor · · Score: 5, Informative

    For such a geek heavy site as /. you'd think a download link would be to a platform select page and not the windows installer.

    Here is a better download link: http://www.opera.com/download/ Unfortunately not all platforms have an Opera 8 download yet.

    1. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by StarWreck · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah, I noticed there's no Amiga version yet. SACRLIDGE!

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    2. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by jc42 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately not all platforms have an Opera 8 download yet.

      Yeah; I tried downloading it to my Mac, and got 7.54. Which brings up a question: Does my download count, since I didn't download version 8?

      OTOH, when I found it was the same as my old Opera, I first thought I'd screwed it up somehow, so I tried again. I got 7.54 again. So is that two downloads toward the million count, or is it zero?

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    3. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Hate to break your heart, but a vast majority of Slashdot readers are using Windows. By the way, who said you can't be a geek if you use Windows?

    4. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by adabyron · · Score: 1

      It specifically says in the press release "the new Opera 8" so that would make it zero. There's an 8 beta for Mac, but that won't count either since it's still beta, and not all that new. I've been using it for at least a couple months.

    5. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by Dolda2000 · · Score: 0
      Hate to break your heart, but a vast majority of Slashdot readers are using Windows. By the way, who said you can't be a geek if you use Windows?
      I know I shouldn't bite, but I just couldn't resist.

      Thing is, the OP never said that the majority of Slashdot readers aren't running Windows. He merely said that a geek-heavy site such as Slashdot would likely have more than enough non-Windows users to warrant not posting a direct link to the Windows installer.

      In the same manner, noone said that "you can't be a geek if you use Windows". The OP just implied that geeks would be more likely not to use Windows.

      That said, I would say that you can't be a geek if you use Windows. But noone said it before me. ;-) </sarcasm>

    6. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by MartinG · · Score: 1, Funny

      Have a little sympathy please.

      Typical windows users may have difficulty navigating around all the complicated menus. It makes sense to make it easier for them by default.

      Real people on the other hand can probably work things like that out one their own.

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    7. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by 123abc987 · · Score: 0

      I always thought geeks had several computers so they could run all the major operating systems at the same time.

    8. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by prionic6 · · Score: 1

      The Opera 8.0 Beta 1 for OSX is only a few days old (I think it was released the same day as the other 8.0 finals). The few-months-old version is Opera 8.0 Preview 1.

    9. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Real people" are not non-Windows Users. Real people are the power elite, the one's who make decisions about who gets food, medicine, aid. Real people shape policy on a global scale when they open their mouths. You're not a real person. Real people matter.

    10. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by MartinG · · Score: 1

      Would it have helped if I added a smiley to indicate my humour?

      (PS: are you American?)

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    11. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by m50d · · Score: 1

      Support for BeOS and even QNX (!) makes up for it imo.

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    12. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by nekura · · Score: 1

      They're all betas, hence the huge word "beta" on the Opera 8 logo on their main page.

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    13. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, no, Opera 8 is out of beta now.

    14. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1
      Real people just go to http://snapshot.opera.com anyway.

      On a side note, kudos to Opera devs for making packages for pretty much every significant Linux distro out there. Go check the download link, and click around in menus - they've got quite an impressive list of supported distributions.

    15. Re:Direct Link to Win32 version by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Current versions:

      Win32 - 8.00
      Win16 - 3.62 (IIRC)
      Mac OS - 8.00b1 (beta), 7.54u2 (stable)
      Linux (SPARC/PowerPC/i386) - 8.0
      FreeBSD (i386) - 8.0
      Solaris (SPARC) - 8.0
      OS/2 - 5.12
      QNX - 6.01 (preview), 5.2.1 (stable)
      BeOS - 3.62
      Symbian/Nokia - 6.20
      Symbian/Sony - 6.31
      WinCE/Smartphone - 7.60b3 (preview)
      Symbian/SX1 - 6.20
      Symbian/X700 - 6.20
      Symbian/Sendo - 6.20
      Symbian/EPOC - 5.14

      Bolded ones count towards 8.0 totals.

  14. He'll be disappointed... by SFA_AOK · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...when he gets turned away my US immigration and has t oswim back home.

    1. Re:He'll be disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, he'll stop half-way and say "screw it, it's too far, I'm going back home".

    2. Re:He'll be disappointed... by krewemaynard · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      they turn people away now?

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    3. Re:He'll be disappointed... by say · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, Gov. Schwarzenegger will be there pushing him back in the water telling him the borders are closed.

      Uhm.. I doubt he's gonna land in California. Check your world map :-)

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    4. Re:He'll be disappointed... by CFTM · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Damn straight! We don't need'em either 'cause only WE matter!

      Damn I tried to make a somewhat humour joke, at least in my mind but the lamness filter stopped me :~(

      Evil /. has thwarted my plans for world domination once again ... oh well back to cubicle hell for me!

    5. Re:He'll be disappointed... by jaylene_slide · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Beautiful sig.

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    6. Re:He'll be disappointed... by elcid73 · · Score: 1
    7. Re:He'll be disappointed... by 123abc987 · · Score: 1

      Because, of course, the governator has an electronic implant and if he ever even THINKS about leaving california, he will explode into horrible bits.
      Governors, even governators, in the US are not allowed to even think about leaving their state.

    8. Re:He'll be disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check your world map :-)

      Heh, my grandpa had one of those and I even peeked at it once. It was neat to see both other countries, Mexico and Can something. I had no idea the world was that big!

    9. Re:He'll be disappointed... by krewemaynard · · Score: 1

      hey, when did they change "Funny" to "Flamebait"?

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    10. Re:He'll be disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because, of course, the governator has an electronic implant and if he ever even THINKS about leaving california, he will explode into horrible bits.

      No, but I really doubt he has any kind of authority over the immigration procedures anywhere on the east coast.

    11. Re:He'll be disappointed... by Altus · · Score: 1



      it may be funny... but it does happen... a group of my friends and I were denied access to Japan because the suspected we were a bunch of shifty foreigners who were there to bum around for a month.

      they were right of course... but still... they didnt let us into the country although we had not done anything "wrong" some of the people were just to scruffy looking for them I guess.

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    12. Re:He'll be disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if they are white.

    13. Re:He'll be disappointed... by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      There are other countries below Mexico. Where coffee and drugs come from.

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    14. Re:He'll be disappointed... by Fwonkas · · Score: 3, Funny
      Uhm.. I doubt he's gonna land in California. Check your world map :-)
      What do you think the Panama Canal was built for?
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    15. Re:He'll be disappointed... by fr2asbury · · Score: 1

      Ya know, I thought about mentioning something about him having to travel to the east coast, but I just didn't think it would be worth it since that was a given. I guess I was wrong.

    16. Re:He'll be disappointed... by BlueFashoo · · Score: 1

      He's an American. Americans don't have world maps :-P

      Sure we do. It's right here. Just take the map and go left. Or right, it doesn't make any difference.
      http://www.google.com/maps

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    17. Re:He'll be disappointed... by syukton · · Score: 1

      ROFL.

      I wanted to mod you funny but I doubted anybody else would go to google maps and examine the map. For those that don't: it just shows blue. It shows North America in perfect detail, but nothing else. You can scroll around to where the other countries should be, but they... aren't there, just endless blue ocean. Is this a hint at google's ultimate agenda?!

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    18. Re:He'll be disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there's england, wales, and ireland too.

  15. A Sad Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a bad day when on slashdot the "direct link" is an .exe file.

  16. Why, exactly... by Eivind · · Score: 2, Informative
    Can anyone tell me why, exactly, the "direct link" to download Opera from Slashdot points to the Windows version ?

    One would assume, if noone else, atleast Slashdot is aware that there *are* other OSes out here. (and Opera supports quite a few of them)

    1. Re:Why, exactly... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Can anyone tell me why, exactly, the "direct link" to download Opera from Slashdot points to the Windows version ?

      Because this gives a lot of posters getting positive moderation by pointing out this fact, giving a link to the general download page (the latter is almost guaranteed to get +5 Informative) or maybe even by making fun of it.
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    2. Re:Why, exactly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We don't actually plan on using the product! That wasn't part of the agreement, we just have to download it!

    3. Re:Why, exactly... by jcuervo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not to mention the modding-up for the people who explain it.

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    4. Re:Why, exactly... by DaveInAustin · · Score: 1

      Maybe because you are running windoze. I am running Suse 9.2 (and just installed Opera w/o seeing the windoze download). Actually, I can say that this seems like the best browser for linux. If the CEO actually does the swim, I promise I'll buy a copy. - David

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    5. Re:Why, exactly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And those that make fun of those that explain it.

    6. Re:Why, exactly... by jcuervo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But not, apparently, those that reply to those that make fun of those who explain it.

      Wonder how long this thread can go and keep getting modded up.

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    7. Re:Why, exactly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's a noone?

    8. Re:Why, exactly... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      Because statistics for Slashdot have shown that despite all of the Linux fanboys on here, Windows is the most common operating system of Slashdot users.

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    9. Re:Why, exactly... by Binestar · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not to mention the modding-up for the people who explain it.

      Add in the modding up of the person who points out that the person who explained the modding up procedure is being modded up and it's a full blown mod orgy.

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    10. Re:Why, exactly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well you got modded up so i guess the ones who analyze people who reply to those who make fun of those who explain it.

      i bet it dies with my post though

    11. Re:Why, exactly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      well you got modded up so i guess the ones who analyze people who reply to those who make fun of those who explain it.

      i bet it dies with my post though
      Yes it's the thread that would not end
      It just goes on and on my friends
      Some people started posting one day not knowing what it was
      And they'll keep posting forever just because
      It's the thread that would not end...
    12. Re:Why, exactly... by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Bet it doesn't.

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    13. Re:Why, exactly... by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      This, folks, is why "funny" mods don't count!

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    14. Re:Why, exactly... by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      Because, horror of horrors, the majority of Slashdot users use Windows.

      Of course it's not 90% or 95% or whatever the general population figure is, but it's still something like 70%. (Remember that there are a bunch of lurkers who read the articles and don't participate in the community.)

      Besides, if you have another OS, you probably have a worthwhile browser already.

    15. Re:Why, exactly... by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      Obviously, until the mods run out of mod points. I wish I could contribute, but I've posted in this thread already.

    16. Re:Why, exactly... by jcuervo · · Score: 1

      I was really tired, so I took a little nap. I dreamt I got modded down in this thread.

      I need to get out more, I think.

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    17. Re:Why, exactly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way to totally give away that you use Windows :p

      Unless you're a privacy nazi and keep your browser from divulging your OS information, the website should mostly detect what you're running and bring you to the appropriate page.

      For example, when I follow that "direct link" it brings me to the FreeBSD page.

      (zing)

    18. Re:Why, exactly... by shadowbearer · · Score: 1

      But perhaps they should. I know I certainly pay attention to them... humor is always welcome, even if it's lame :)

      Come on, can't we have a Slashdot Funny Mods count, no mod limits day? At least once a month (preferably on Hot Fudge Sundaes? :) Or we could make it a real contest by limiting it to the 13th of every month, from midnight to noon.

      slashdot is getting ridiculous anyway, right? Right?

      bam bam bam crunch **no carrier**

      SB

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  17. In other words... by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In other words:

    "I don't think there is a chance in hell of our getting a million downloads in four days, so I will make this grandiose gesture knowing full well I will never have to put up on it - much like the Taco Bell/MIR offer.

    However, I will use this PR stunt to get lots of free advertising from lazy reporters who are too stupid to figure out how I am using them."

    1. Re:In other words... by alexhs · · Score: 1

      But now that slashdotters are aware of that, it WILL happen.
      That or they are going to shut down servers after 999,999 downloads...

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    2. Re:In other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Taco Bell bought insurance on the offer, just incase MIR was on target.

      So they "put up on it" to as much as they were going to either way.

    3. Re:In other words... by browngb · · Score: 0

      Maybe he should buy advertisement space on people's foreheads.

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  18. Shenanigans. by leetdan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is an interesting, and likely successful, publicity stunt. But aren't the waters of the North Atlantic, you know, balls cold? And doesn't the gulfstream tend to flow, you know, the opposite direction?

    This is most definitely not happening.

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    1. Re:Shenanigans. by DrLex · · Score: 1

      Well, if it's happening it'll probably not be happening for long. He'd better have a helicopter flying along since he'll need it. Swimming from Sweden to the US is downward impossible, unless this guy is some amphibious mutant...

    2. Re:Shenanigans. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is most definitely not happening.

      Oh no! You've gone and shattered my comfortable world view! I now have to accept that people might not always intend their words to be taken literally! How will I cope? You bastard!

    3. Re:Shenanigans. by Cougem · · Score: 1

      He might be ok with the gulf stream. It rarely ever goes faster than 1 metre per second, usually around 0.2-0.6m/s, and it's a surprisingly short band of water.

      Still, I'm with you, I'd rather swim from America. Especially since then he wont have to worry about US immigration so much.

    4. Re:Shenanigans. by NickHewitt · · Score: 0

      yeah - just the sharks to look out for now...

    5. Re:Shenanigans. by ildon · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is most definitely not happening.

      REALLY?????

    6. Re:Shenanigans. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, then it's a good thing that he'll be starting from Norway...

    7. Re:Shenanigans. by mforbes · · Score: 4, Interesting

      First, the Gulf Stream doesn't extend that far north. Take a look at the wiki for it.
      However, if he were swimming against it (instead of north it and perpendicular (roughly) to the current of the North Atlantic Drift), he'd be lucky to make any headway at all. The average speed of the Gulf Current is around 5 knots (or is that nauts? I've never been sure which is correct). Now, I've done a mile swim numerous times-- I was on swim/dive as a kid-- and I KNOW it takes me about 18-20 minutes to swim an imperial mile. Considering a nautical mile is even longer, I really doubt I'd make any progress swimming against that current! Take that & multiply by however many miles it is from Norway to Maine... I don't even want to imagine trying.

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    8. Re:Shenanigans. by DrLex · · Score: 1

      /me bangs his head against his keyboard

      hjxhjgtghijg fhjy nbnuty56gf

    9. Re:Shenanigans. by fanblade · · Score: 1

      For a better map of ocean currents, look here.
      It looks to me like the shortest route is directly against the North Atlantic Drift.

    10. Re:Shenanigans. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who said he was swimming west? Maybe he'll swim East to Hawaii so he can be with the current. He didn't say which US State he'd swim to, so it might be Alaska, Hawaii, California, or Canada.

    11. Re:Shenanigans. by bheerssen · · Score: 1

      For the record, one nautical mile per hour is called a "knot". The term comes from the method ancient ships used to guage their speed. A sailor would have a spool of string with knots tied in it at regular intervals. At the end is a small cup to add drag. The sailor would throw the cup overboard and would count out the knots in the line as they went by. However many knots went by in a specific time period gave you your speed. So, if 6 knots passed overboard, the ship is said to be traveling at 6 knots, or 6 nautical miles per hour. Incidentally, one should never say "knots per hour" as that is just wrong.

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    12. Re:Shenanigans. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pity. I really wanted to give Opera a try, too.

    13. Re:Shenanigans. by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      I'm not quite sure in what universe it's reasonable to swim from Norway to Hawaii to make the trip shorter.

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    14. Re:Shenanigans. by robertjw · · Score: 1

      I'm not quite sure in what universe it's reasonable to swim from Norway to Hawaii to make the trip shorter.

      But a great circle route under the ice cap to Alaska would be WAY shorter.

    15. Re:Shenanigans. by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Actually, since he's stopping over in Iceland, it looks like he's going to cross the Gulf Stream perpendicularly (between Norway and Iceland), and then follow the East Greenland and Labrador Currents to America. He's gonna freeze his ass off in the Labrador Current, though, since that's a cold one.

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    16. Re:Shenanigans. by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      one should never say "knots per hour" as that is just wrong.

      What about "These motors can accelerate the ship at 5 knots per hour" (= 5 nmi/hr^2)? That's completely valid. Of course you weren't talking about acceleration, but "knots per hour" is not always wrong.

    17. Re:Shenanigans. by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Er, 0.6m/s is actually quite fast. In fact that's 1.35mph, or 32 miles a day. That means he'd have to swim 32 miles worth of water every day just to stay where he was.

    18. Re:Shenanigans. by bheerssen · · Score: 1

      Wow, the art of pedantry has just been taken to new heights. Congratulations. :)

      FWIW, yes I was strictly refering to speed, not acceleration, though perhaps I could have been more clear.

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  19. One word: by p3d0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wetsuit.

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    1. Re:One word: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well of course his suit will become wet, dumbass, he's gonna be SWIMMING!

      P.S.: if you rate this "flame/troll" you'd better get a sense of humor. And no they don't sell those at Wal-Mart.

    2. Re:One word: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROFL :D

    3. Re:One word: by magefile · · Score: 1

      And grease (for insulation). Or fat/lard. Or something - I think the Channel swimmers use whatever it is.

    4. Re:One word: by 123abc987 · · Score: 0

      But they do sell those on e-bay.

    5. Re:One word: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how about: Drysuit.

    6. Re:One word: by Excelsior · · Score: 4, Funny

      One word: Shrinkage

      Opera calls their tiny products "embedded".

    7. Re:One word: by fanblade · · Score: 1

      No, drysuit. A wetsuit means the chilling water is still rushing over parts of your skin.

    8. Re:One word: by St.+Vitus · · Score: 1

      That's two words, you just mashed them together!

    9. Re:One word: by WarPresident · · Score: 1

      Wetsuit.

      Drysuit

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    10. Re:One word: by kentyman · · Score: 1

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      Jerry: Like a frightened turtle.
      Elaine: I don't know how you guys walk around with those things.

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    11. Re:One word: by wisdom_brewing · · Score: 1

      a wetsuit works by absorbing water and swelling slightly so that though you do get wet the water you get wet by has already been warmed to a substantially higher temperature than that you would be in contact with otherwise. drysuits are not good for cold water.

    12. Re:One word: by LaMuk · · Score: 1

      more like dry suit. They are used in really cold waters, but they are bulky and I wouldn't think they would be easy to swim in.

    13. Re:One word: by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      Not according to this.

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    14. Re:One word: by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Opera 8: Speed, Security, Simplicity
      Opera's CEO: Speedos, Shrinkage, Spoke-too-soon-icity


      Too late - Opera Software themselves beat you too it...

  20. Yeah, but which norway by rde · · Score: 5, Informative

    Being the suspicious slashdotter that I am, I suspected that a) there was a town in Norway called USA (unlikely), or b) there was a town in America called Norway (almost certain).

    Sure enough, there's Norway, Maine.

    Shouldn't take him that long.

    1. Re:Yeah, but which norway by Hedon · · Score: 1

      But if he needs to stop over at his mum's house in Iceland, he'll sure need that hot cup of chocolate.

    2. Re:Yeah, but which norway by Nept · · Score: 2, Funny

      yea, possibly. Though in that case, it's the stopover in iceland for a cup of hot chocolate that's going to kill him.

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    3. Re:Yeah, but which norway by TheWormThatFlies · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Sure enough, there's Norway, Maine. Shouldn't take him that long.

      ...except for that stopover in Iceland (described as "his home country", so no wriggling out of that one).

    4. Re:Yeah, but which norway by Cougem · · Score: 1, Funny

      Assuming he means just swimming to it accross Penesseewassee Lake. Otherwise he's fucked. You ever tried swimming through urban environments? It chafes.

    5. Re:Yeah, but which norway by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Does the Iceland chain of supermarkets count? :-)

    6. Re:Yeah, but which norway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure enough, there's Norway, Maine.

      Shouldn't take him that long.


      via Iceland?

    7. Re:Yeah, but which norway by Maffy · · Score: 1

      Good research, but remember he's still going via Iceland for hot chocolate.

      Matt

    8. Re:Yeah, but which norway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Was "his home country" added by journalists or did he say those exact words?

      There could be an "Iceland" store (or something) near-by...

    9. Re:Yeah, but which norway by DGregory · · Score: 1

      I don't know how far he'll get trying to swim inland, either...

    10. Re:Yeah, but which norway by dascandy · · Score: 1

      The other way around, I'll swim from my home town to America... America, Limburg, The Netherlands, that is.

    11. Re:Yeah, but which norway by Moderator · · Score: 0

      Kinda off-topic, but there's a town in Norway called "Hell" which many people like to take pictures of because of the snow, thus giving them proof that Hell has frozen over.

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  21. No point. by whitetiger0990 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't see a point... I bet a lot of people will just download it just to see him swim. Then later uninstall it. I'll do that tonight. I wanna see if he holds his words.

    Ooo wait... maybe Bill Gates will do something better so that people will keep IE. I could see it now. "Bill Gates jumps pit of acid and a large tub of sharks with laser beams attached to their heads (and it was on fire)."

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    1. Re:No point. by mrbarkeeper · · Score: 0

      I'd download IE just to see that. But it'd better be sharks with friggin' laser beams! And Bill Gates has to drown by the unnecessary slow dipping mechanism.

    2. Re:No point. by drkich · · Score: 0
      "Bill Gates jumps pit of acid and a large tub of sharks with laser beams attached to their heads (and it was on fire)."


      What was on fire? The laser beams or the sharks?
    3. Re:No point. by DrLex · · Score: 1
      "Bill Gates jumps pit of acid and a large tub of sharks with laser beams attached to their heads (and it was on fire)."
      Wow, I'd even go as far as buying Windows, if there was a guarantee that that will happen!
    4. Re:No point. by nighthawk127127 · · Score: 1

      Yeah I just downloaded it and I'm not even going to install it, I just wanna see this guy swim. I don't think anything could turn me away from Firefox right now - the honeymoon's not over yet.

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    5. Re:No point. by BHearsum · · Score: 1

      The point is it will get a lot of people to at least try it out. Opera is convinced they have a superior product, by pulling a stunt like this many people will download it to support him swimming across the ocean, and in all likelyhood they will try it out.

      It's exposure. Maybe he'll even get on mainstream news.

    6. Re:No point. by ocelotbob · · Score: 1

      That's the point. He's concocted a crazy-ass stunt to get people who would otherwise be uninterested in downloading the software to do so. From this, he gets free publicity, and probably more than a few purchases from this. It's so crazy it just might work.

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    7. Re:No point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I bet a lot of people will just download it just to see him swim. Then later uninstall it

      Uninstall it? We were supposed to install it?? I just downloaded it and deleted it. Swim Tetzchner, swim!

    8. Re:No point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I were swimming the North Atlantic, I'd be worried about exposure too

    9. Re:No point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ooo wait... maybe Bill Gates will do something better so that people will keep IE. I could see it now. "Bill Gates jumps pit of acid and a large tub of sharks with laser beams attached to their heads (and it was on fire)."

      IE jumped the shark.

    10. Re:No point. by bhtooefr · · Score: 1
      Unfortunately, I don't think so:
      Steve Ballmer, a Microsoft vice president who has been likened to George S. Patton but who sometimes more resembles Charles Emerson Winchester with rabies, announced that if OS/2 2.0 shipped before the end of 1991, he would "eat a floppy disk." Obligingly, IBM did in fact offer OS/2 2.0 for sale before the end of that year, sort of. It was OS/2 2.0 LA, the last letters standing for "limited availability." It was beta code, really, the idea being that it would give big customers a chance to take an early look at the new 32-bit product and help determine where it did not meet expectations, though Ballmer's boast did not go unnoticed and there are still people at IBM who view him as a welsher. If he ate a floppy disk, he did not publicize it. And at the end of March 1992, GA -- General Availability -- OS/2 2.0 was released.
      Granted, that was Ballmer, not Gates, but eating a floppy disk is MUCH easier than swimming the fscking ATLANTIC!
  22. Silly Eivind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    96.24% of Slashdot users are runnings Windows. Roughly 3 more percent are using Macs, and the other less than 1% are so dedicated to free software that they'd never touch Opera while it's closed source and bundled with ads.

    1. Re:Silly Eivind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where do you get those stats? From thin air? Ah, I see.

      I'll make my own stats then:
      - 50.8% are Windows XP
      - 30.1% are Mac OS X
      - 15% are Linux
      - 3% are Windows 98SE
      - 1% are Windows 95OSR2
      - 0.1% are Mac OS 9
      - 0.0542% are C64 hacked with a TCP/IP interface
      - 0.00001% (1 user, in fact) is Windows 3.11

      Oh yeah, 5% are BSD, but they're dying, so I didn't count them.

      I know my numbers don't add up, but it's made-up stats, so who cares?

  23. Sorry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those 500.000 were from my download bot.

  24. The obvious answer by ggvaidya · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's MARKETING!

    I hadn't heard about Opera 8, and if it wasn't for the slashvertisement, I'd've been in the dark.

    This is well timed - just today I installed iTunes, was completely bowled over, and was wondering - if a non-free music player can be this cool, what about a non-free web browser?

    nice to see them CEOs get out of the comfy office once in a while ...

    1. Re:The obvious answer by Cougem · · Score: 1

      Non-free!?! Damn, I just downloaded it 8 times!

    2. Re:The obvious answer by Before+The+End+Chaos · · Score: 1

      You paid for iTunes?

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    3. Re:The obvious answer by AlexMax2742 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is. Contrary to Slashdot popular beleif, it IS possible to get a great product by paying for it.

      Opera is one of them. Sure it seems 'bloated' at first, but most of it is because of lots of little toolbars that you can turn off and never see again within 4 seconds. And even with all this "bloat", it seems to be a lot snappier than Mozilla Firefox. And there are lot of little gemstones around the program that you keep discovering the more you use it. Some of these gem's you'll love and start using on a regular basis (one example of mine was the "drag over a non hypertext URL and right click it and choose "Go to URL"), and others that annoy you (The totally unnecissary chat client) you can turn off and never have to bother with again.

      And if the thought of banner ad's for the unpaid version feaks you out, you can even switch the ads to a Google AdWrods bar that's a lot thinner than the standard banner ad....and I know I sure as hell don't mind AdWords, even on webpages.

      Give it a try. I've been using the free version since 6.xx, and every time I've tried any other web browser, I've always wound up coming back.

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  25. Downloaded.... by CypherXero · · Score: 4, Funny

    OK, I downloaded Opera...wait, I have Mozilla Firefox...

    *Drags ow32enen800.exe to the trash...

    Opps, I hope the download number didn't go up ;)

    1. Re:Downloaded.... by Queer+Boy · · Score: 1
      OK, I downloaded Opera...wait, I have Mozilla Firefox...

      Everytime a new browser milestone comes out I always try it to see if it renders pages as nicely as what I have set the standard for myself. It used to be Internet Explorer for Mac which used a different rendering engine than Windows and supported almost every standard at the time of its final release. Now it is Safari which uses KHTML (Omniweb uses WebCore as well).

      I keep reading that Opera renders pages fastest on the Mac. That may be true but the rendering engine is definitely NOT tweaked for Macintosh. Kerning is a big thing and it doesn't (at least the beta) use Bold and Italic tags. Lots of little bugs, like that an entity's colour is supposed to override the declaration of a link colour (it underlines links in the wrong colour). There's no way to make the tab bar stable instead of throwing the whole window out of whack everytime it goes from one tab to two.

      For a version 8 browser put out by a company that makes money from it, it doesn't seem to stack up to the free browsers.

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    2. Re:Downloaded.... by icebrrrg · · Score: 1

      exactly. why pay $39 for opera, when firefox does all of that for me for free? i know opera has a free version but they say it's still ad driven.

      this from a few minutes browsing their site. am i wrong, is it free now?

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    3. Re:Downloaded.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer Opera to Firefox. You can configure both of them to have many of the same features, but Opera works better for me. I like both browsers, I just like Opera better.

    4. Re:Downloaded.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      So you'll blindly stick with a single product, and you'll never try another web browser? After all, the one you have does the job, right? Hmm, where have I heard that before...

    5. Re:Downloaded.... by Rits · · Score: 2, Informative

      A few minutes browsing yields this:

      http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/compare/
      http://www.opera.com/features/

      You might not need a feature-rich browser, but it is obvious that firefox does not 'do it all' for free.

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    6. Re:Downloaded.... by ErnieD · · Score: 0, Troll

      I'm glad I'm not the only one who downloaded it a few times just to drive the number up. Gotta keep these corporate-types to their word, no?

    7. Re:Downloaded.... by icebrrrg · · Score: 0

      Of course you're right, Opera's marketingspeak says you get more when you pay or use their ad version. But I really don't give a flip about the "features" that Opera includes. I should have said FireFox does everything *I* need, for free, with no ads. Beyond standards support, basic browsing, better security than IE, and a great UI ... I don't need anything else. And if I did I can download new widgets.

      It's not for me. Hope you like it tho!

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    8. Re:Downloaded.... by hkmwbz · · Score: 1
      Firefox doesn't do "all of that" for free. It relies on untested third party software to emulate Opera's features. Also, it costs me lots of time to mess around with extensions.

      There is always a cost. With Opera it's up-front.

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    9. Re:Downloaded.... by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      You're either using 8.00 BETA 1 for Mac, or 7.54u2. Try 8.00 Final on Virtual PC, or find a real PC. A Windows version WILL be better than a Linux version - no tweaking to get it going (I've had horrible luck with Opera for Linux picking Really Bad Fonts(tm) by default).

  26. I'm the CEO by Himring · · Score: 1, Funny

    "You thought I said that I would swim?... [chuckles] No, no, I'm the CEO ... you're swimmin'. I do still get the hot chocolate though...."

    Note: for those who do not work in the corporate world, the CEO did actually say that he would swim, but such truths as remembering oaths and word meaning do not apply in the corporate cosmos....

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    1. Re:I'm the CEO by RealityMogul · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Maybe he means "swims" in the pool of a cruise ship.

    2. Re:I'm the CEO by grolschie · · Score: 1

      No, he means that he will swim vicariously through a paid athlete/ringer.

  27. I'll do my part to save this man's life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    by not downloading Opera

    1. Re:I'll do my part to save this man's life by xanderwilson · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm waiting until Sunday. Don't want another man's death on my conscience. On the other hand, if I really cared about the guy I'd organize a DOS attack or something to keep other people from downloading either. Hackers for Life or something.

    2. Re:I'll do my part to save this man's life by Kombat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, I'm waiting until Sunday. Don't want another man's death on my conscience.

      "Another?" How many deaths are already on your conscience???

      (It's funny, laugh)

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    3. Re:I'll do my part to save this man's life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, if you think about it, it doesn't have to be..

  28. Does someone have a torrent? by Xtifr · · Score: 1, Funny

    I don't want to overload their servers! :)

  29. Meanwhile in Seattle by cOdEgUru · · Score: 3, Funny

    While the rest of the world continue downloading furiously, Bill keeps his GPS_enabled, Laser_attached pet sharks ready off the coast of norway.

    Muwaaahhaahaha

    1. Re:Meanwhile in Seattle by bored_SuSE_user · · Score: 1

      And if running on the microsoft mapping software, the sharks could quite possibly be swimming from norway via newcastle then back to norway before taking chase....
      1. Go to MSN Maps & Directions(http://mappoint.msn.com/DirectionsFind. aspx)
      2. In the Start section, select "Norway" from the listbox and enter "Haugesund" into the City field
      3. In the End section, select "Norway" from the listbox and enter "Trondheim" into the City field
      4. Click on "Get Directions"
      5. Laugh very hard at the result.
      Also try changing from "shortest" to "quickest"

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    2. Re:Meanwhile in Seattle by callqcmd · · Score: 1

      Sharks with erm... long horns?

    3. Re:Meanwhile in Seattle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      HAhAHAH!!!!!!!! yUO = TeH FUnNAy!!!!!!!

      HAHAHAH!!!!!!!

    4. Re:Meanwhile in Seattle by WinterpegCanuck · · Score: 1
      Bill keeps his GPS_enabled, Laser_attached pet sharks ready

      Don't worry, the GPS units use Windows CE, should be a safe swim.

  30. In other news... by justforaday · · Score: 5, Funny

    For some reason 950,000 copies of Opera have suddenly been downloaded by an IP block owned by a company in Redmond, Washington.

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    1. Re:In other news... by octal666 · · Score: 1

      probably MS would download two million, just to be sure...

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  31. No, he's more eccentric than that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    He's installed a swimming pool in his private jet. He'll swim around it while his jet flies from Norway to the US.

  32. Distributed Murder by EnsilZah · · Score: 5, Funny

    Would that be a Distributed Murder Attack?

    1. Re:Distributed Murder by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1, Funny

      I belive they call it a DDOs (distributed Drowning of sufication)

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    2. Re:Distributed Murder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to say , that honestly was ment as a joke .It was in response to the parents post and was not an attack on anyone or anything , So i apoligise if you thought it was a troll , how you came to this conclusion is beyond me though .
      Fcat

    3. Re:Distributed Murder by coopex · · Score: 1

      Nono, it'd be DDO, Distributed Denial of Oxygen

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  33. Just a stunt, of course by springbox · · Score: 1

    Aside from the obvious attempt to get attention, this CEO will no doubt back down even if the number of downloads meets or exceeds the goal. That is, unless he's some sort of boat that's powered by only a few cups of hot chocolate.

  34. Scene 1 by deacon · · Score: 1
    Cue Music: taaa ... taaa ... taaa

    Shot of shark underwater with a face like Bill Gates:

    Swimming..

    Music: taaa-tum ...

    Bill notices food and makes a turn:

    Music: taa-tum taa -tum ta-tum ta-tum

    Ocean churning:

    Water turns red:

    Profit!

  35. No way! by Walkiry · · Score: 5, Funny

    Din't you read this?: with only one stop-over for a cup of hot chocolate at his mother's house in his home country, Iceland.

    He's an Icelander. He's one of the guys who grew up reading things like Njal's Saga, playing with his friends at being Gunnar or Kári and beting each other with wooden swords, playing with snow outside at some -10C and under blizzards and getting his head messed up with the perma-summer-light/almost no light seasonal cycle.

    If one of these guys says he's swimming accross the Atlantic, I'd advise to my good american friends to lock themselves in their houses and get ready for a raid.

    I lived 2 years in Iceland; let me tell you, it was fun there :D

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    1. Re:No way! by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah, ah,
      We come from the land of the ice and snow,
      from the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
      The hammer of the gods
      Will drive our ships to new lands,
      To fight the horde, singing and crying:
      Valhalla, I am coming!
      On we sweep with threshing oar,
      Our only goal will be the western shore.

      Ah, ah,
      We come from the land of the ice and snow,
      from the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
      How soft your fields so green,
      Can whisper tales of gore,
      Of how we calmed the tides of war.
      We are your overlords.
      On we sweep with threshing oar,
      Our only goal will be the western shore.
      So now you'd better stop and rebuild all your ruins,
      For peace and trust can win the day
      Despite of all your losing.

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    2. Re:No way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zeppelin is awesome by the way. :)

      'nuff said

    3. Re:No way! by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 1

      mod parent +1 Zeppelin Owns

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    4. Re:No way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somebody deserves a beatdown.. Zeppelin is never offtopic.

    5. Re:No way! by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

      ooooeeeeeeeoooooaaaaaaaaah ... or whatever it was. :)

    6. Re:No way! by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 1

      tan-tananan-ta-tan tananan...
      ooooeeeeeeeoooooaaaaaaaaah ...

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    7. Re:No way! by mikael_j · · Score: 1
      -10C? Meh, Iceland is colder than that in the winter, I used to live in Luleå, Sweden and -30C was considered a "normal" temperature in the winter.

      /Mikael

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    8. Re:No way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it isnt. I live here. This winter, the temperature never went beyond -5C.

    9. Re:No way! by TangLiSha · · Score: 1

      -10 degrees Celsius? That's 14 degrees Farenheit. I grew up in WI, where we spent most of the winter below -20 degrees Farenheit, which would be almost -29 degrees Celsius.

      I'm sure it gets much colder than that in Iceland.

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    10. Re:No way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. Global warming at work. :(

    11. Re:No way! by sveinhal · · Score: 1

      Actually, Iceland is in the middle of the Gulf stream, heating it up. It is kinda chilly on Iceland, but that is mostly due to the wind. In January the average temperature in Reykjavik is just -0.4 degrees C.

      It's the same in Norway. It is actually not that bad, the Gulf stream heats up the entire coast. Luleå, on the other hand is not exposed to the Atlantic. Therefore Sweden, as well as Russia and inland-Canada is alot colder than both Iceland and Norway in winter.

    12. Re:No way! by Scaba · · Score: 2, Funny

      Also, he was subjected to hearing Bjork for much longer than the rest of the world. Swimming 5000 miles in icy water is a relief by comparison.

    13. Re:No way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      speaking of, Robert Plant (of led zeppelin) is playing with his band Strange sensation in Iceland, TODAY, Funny how Iceland gets all the cool ppl with only 300.000 natives

    14. Re:No way! by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

      playing with snow outside at some -10C and under blizzards

      -10 C? Pansies! The best sledding doesn't even start until -20!

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    15. Re:No way! by sinserve · · Score: 1

      one of the cool guys being Bobby Fisher, world's leading anit-semite and amateur chess player.

  36. Cruise Ship by Ranger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All he has to do is get on a cruise ship with a swimming pool that is going from Norway to the USA. And he can swim in it 24x7. So technically he is swimming from there to here. That way he doesn't have to worry about things like hypothermia, sharks, giant squid, icebergs, polar bears, or being attacked by a creche of killer penguins.

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    1. Re:Cruise Ship by DataCannibal · · Score: 1

      He'd certainly be swimming the long way round if he was to be attacked by killer penguins. Unless he swims through a zoo !

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    2. Re:Cruise Ship by say · · Score: 1

      A cruise ship which does stop on Iceland, that is.

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    3. Re:Cruise Ship by jack_call · · Score: 1
      That way he doesn't have to worry about things like hypothermia, sharks, giant squid, icebergs, polar bears, or being attacked by a creche of killer penguins.

      hmm polar bears in the atlantic? polar bears != stupid Norvigeans
      Penguins? PENGUINS? The only penguins on the northern hemisphere is in zoos, good thing too. Seen that OS they made? just think what they could do to a swimmer...
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    4. Re:Cruise Ship by robbkidd · · Score: 1

      That way he doesn't have to worry about things like [...] polar bears, or being attacked by a creche of killer penguins.

      Polar bears, sure, but unless the penguins have booked a cruise from the Antarctic, no worries there.

    5. Re:Cruise Ship by BaudKarma · · Score: 1

      Better ideas:

      1. Pull the plug on the download servers if/when the count hits 999,999.

      2. Upload a few hundred thousand copies of Opera. That'll make the counter go back down, right?

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    6. Re:Cruise Ship by robertjw · · Score: 1

      He'd certainly be swimming the long way round if he was to be attacked by killer penguins. Unless he swims through a zoo!

      Why? Where exactly to the 'killer penguins' live? I know the regular penquins live around the south pole (antarctica, whatever), but not sure where the 'killer' variety is located.

  37. Not possible by hanssprudel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In case anybody is wondering - of course that cannot be done. While the atlantic ocean has been swum, it was done by swimming six hours a day in two hour intervals (and took almost 80 days). And the person who did it was a highly trained swimmer, not a corporate CEO.

    Also, going via Iceland might be a bad idea - since in the north atlantic he will freeze to death without a dry suit. And try surface swimming six hours with a dry suit some time...

    1. Re:Not possible by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Only did a dry-suit dive once (just for the experience of the suiting up proceedure,etc) and since they can act as a flotation device (especially wiht the warm fuzzies underneath) it shouldn't be much of a problem... Hands, feet, and face will be awful cold though.

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    2. Re:Not possible by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      Not going to have to anyways.
      I'm guessing that he's calculated how much bandwidth he's got available, and the minimum amount of time it would take to hit 1,000,000 downloads given that bandwidth. Probably worked it out so the 1,000,000th couldn't possibly be downloaded before 9:30 am CET.

      If it is possible though, and it could indeed happen, he's an idiot for saying he'd do this as he obviously has no way of following through. I guess the short term publicity gained though would likely offset any bad feelings for failing to follow through on such a challenge.

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    3. Re:Not possible by zenst · · Score: 1

      He could hire a yacht with a pool onboard and do laps the whole trip, hence swimming the entire distance ;o)

    4. Re:Not possible by zik0 · · Score: 1

      Note that he swam west to east. I don't think you could outswim the ocean current if you tried it in the other direction.

    5. Re:Not possible by Sartak · · Score: 1

      In case anybody is wondering - of course that cannot be done. While the atlantic ocean has been swum, it was done by swimming six hours a day in two hour intervals (and took almost 80 days). And the person who did it was a highly trained swimmer, not a corporate CEO. The man who swam the Atlantic Ocean traveled from Cape Code to France. That's considerably farther than Norway to Iceland to USA, seeing as how Earth is generally spherical and all.

    6. Re:Not possible by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      Ah, and if Bill Gates made a similar statement, and was called on it and then said 'it was just a joke' how would this crowd react?

      Of course it's a joke, but directly attached to something that is boosting the penetration of his product. Some people won't laugh whether they should or not. Funny or not it could bite him in the ass.

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    7. Re:Not possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the parent's link:

      "Navigated through the 40th and 50th latitude by two French sailors on a 12m (40 foot) sailboat and protected by an electronic force field, Lecomte swam 6 to 8 hours a day at two-hour intervals"

      If the French have force-field technology, shouldn't they use them for something more practical, like national defense when the Huns, Nords, Brits, or half-blind lame midgets decided their army needs a photo-op on the Champs Elysees?

    8. Re:Not possible by AviLazar · · Score: 1

      If he does follow through, I will accept "In recent news, an idiot tech. CEO died trying to swim from Norway to the US on a bet."

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    9. Re:Not possible by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Steve Ballmer made a much easier to accomplish statement (he'd publicly eat a floppy disk if IBM got a 32-bit OS/2 out before the end of '91), and IBM got OS/2 2.0 Limited Availability out in 1991-11. He didn't eat the disk (some speculated that it was because it was technically a beta version, but still, IBM released it as a full version, so he should have eaten the disk).

  38. Maybe he meant to say: by slapout · · Score: 1

    "today proclaimed at an internal company meeting that if the servers aren't slashdotted and the download numbers of the new Opera 8 Web browser reach 1 million within the first four days of the launch"

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  39. Why not something realistic? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why not something realistic, like shaving his head or swimming say, the English Channel? That's only a tens of miles and yet swimming in the ocean (away from the shore) is SO hard that people die trying to swim just that far. No one can or will ever swim the Atlantic without major help from medicine or technology.

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    1. Re:Why not something realistic? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

      Note: i meant straight across, not taking breaks... if you "take a break" in the ocean for a few hours, without help, you'd most certainly drown.

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  40. Surely he has never heard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of the Slashdot Direct Link Effect !!!

    Swim Jon, Swim !

  41. No way this is possible ... by gstoddart · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I find it hard to believe there is any way in hell you *could* swim from Norway to the USA.

    Even if you already held a large number of distance swimming records, that just sounds impossible given the distances involved.

    What is that man talking about?

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    1. Re:No way this is possible ... by Marc+Desrochers · · Score: 1

      Distance is no the factor I'd worry about. Sure, it's thousands of kilometers, but wouldn't he freeze long before distance ever became a factor?

    2. Re:No way this is possible ... by gstoddart · · Score: 1
      Distance is no the factor I'd worry about. Sure, it's thousands of kilometers, but wouldn't he freeze long before distance ever became a factor?

      Probably. I grew up in Eastern Canada, and swimming in the Atlantic in high-summer was damned chilly.

      At the latitudes for Norway, it would only be colder.
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  42. Ahhh much better by Havokmon · · Score: 1
    In Opera 7 on Mandrake 10.2, I had to change the text size to 120% to read Slashdot. Now it comes up just right.

    Good luck with that swim :)

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  43. Re:I wonder by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 1

    Heh. Yeah, I did the same thing. But I followed up with downloading 2 different Linux versions, and the Mac version. ;)

  44. he's trying to save his skin by Dr.Opveter · · Score: 1

    This was purposely leaked in hopes the /. effect would stop people from getting to the opera site to download the new release. It's not working though.

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    Sample this!
  45. Mozilla Firefox extension released! by joebp · · Score: 1

    Dave Hyatt has today vowed to swim in his bathtub if his latest Mozilla Firefox extension "BehaveLessStupidlyPleaseFirefox" reaches 20 downloads.

    Critics slammed him for setting unrealistic targets to avoid bathing.

  46. Another word: by CortoMaltese · · Score: 1

    Drysuit.

    1. Re:Another word: by p3d0 · · Score: 0

      Yes that's a better word.

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    2. Re:Another word: by kocovnik · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      No, you impotent moron, a dry suit is a suit that basically acts like a zip-lock back for your body. You put it on and it does exactly what its name says, it keeps you dry. Water cannot penetrate through the suit, nor can it sneak up the sleeves, neck, or foot holes. You are totally sealed. Here's a picture I found on Google image search: drysuits I hate morons who make stupid comments on this site.

  47. One word: by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Shrinkage.

  48. yeah, ok, sure, I'll do it. by danalien · · Score: 2, Funny
    wget -O - -q "http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=26662&loc ation=29&nothanks=yes&sub=marine" > /dev/null

    all to see him eat his words =)

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  49. well why not by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 1

    I just downloaded my 30 copies.

  50. The facts and figures you need... by tyroneking · · Score: 1

    Distance from New York to Bergen (Norway) = 3365 Nautical Miles (www.distances.com)
    Longest ocean swim = 197 km (122 miles) from Mexico to Cuba by Australian Susie Maroney (38 hours) (http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com)
    Note: 1 Nautical Mile = 1.1508 miles

    If I were them I would crash the download servers before it's too late...

    1. Re:The facts and figures you need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Opera Software has its headquarters in Oslo, right? I don't think he could swim even from there to the Norwegian west coast.

  51. I saw this yesterday. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's odd -- I saw this on the Opera website yesterday. Sounds like a marketing campaign to me!

  52. I'll download it... by d_p · · Score: 1

    ...just to make the guy swim, but I probably won't even install it. I'm happy with firefox and it's free.

    1. Re:I'll download it... by whitehatlurker · · Score: 1
      Try it ... you might like it.

      If not, at least you can say "I tried Opera, but FF roolz dood."

      --
      .. paranoid crackpot leftover from the days of Amiga.
  53. iTunes is free by vkapadia · · Score: 1

    I can only assume that the parent post means closed-source when he says "non-free", because iTunes IS a free download.

    The iTunes Music Store is where one can purchase music, but you do not need to use the iTMS to use iTunes.

    1. Re:iTunes is free by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      The FSF tells us that "Free" in free software refers to freedom rather than price. You're not free to modify Opera or iTunes, or to sell modified versions.

      So, while it's free, it isn't actually free. Isn't English fun.

    2. Re:iTunes is free by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

      Oops yeah :) my bad. I did mean closed source; thanks for clarifying.

      p.s. Opera is cool. Dunno how long the shine will last :|

    3. Re:iTunes is free by maxpublic · · Score: 1

      The FSF tells us that "Free" in free software refers to freedom rather than price.

      Since when did the FSF start printing dictionaries? Guess I'll just have to toss ol' Webster out on his ass.

      Max

      --
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    4. Re:iTunes is free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is why the FSF is stupid for using the word free.

    5. Re:iTunes is free by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Websters lists both meanings. The FSF likes to clarify to point out they mean "at Liberty" rather than "at no cost".

    6. Re:iTunes is free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forever... (Hint: after mastering mouse geastures and getting rid of those useless buttons, hit F12. You'll be bought)

  54. Oh, that's easy by blindcoder · · Score: 1

    while : ; do wget -O /dev/null 'http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=26712' ; done

    Happy swimming :-)

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  55. I think this is swell by HawkinsD · · Score: 1

    Well, good luck to him.

    His admittedly childish behavior is causing the words "Opera browser" to pass through the brains of geeks like me, however fleetingly. This is a powerful thing, no matter how it's done.

    If I was one of his minions, and had just spent a year busting my ass working on this thing, I'd be mighty proud of him.

    --
    Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by mere idiocy.
  56. We _will_ see the server go down... by MikTheUser · · Score: 0

    ...misteriously once it reacher 999.999 downloads!

  57. Please... by ildon · · Score: 1

    Think of the man's health. Please do not download Opera for the next two days.

  58. easy by mshiltonj · · Score: 4, Funny
    while [ 1 ] ;
    do GET 'http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=26712 ' > /dev/null ;
    done ;

    C'mon in, the water's fine.

  59. In related news, M$ announces... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    ... the purchase of ACME Shark Breeding&Training Corp.

    Bill Gates also announced he is about to take a month off at Microsoft, to complete his training for the Captain's License on a nuclear submarine.

  60. Click-Happy by CypherXero · · Score: 1

    "Alright, hold it right there! I have a mouse, and I know how to use it!"
    http://www.collegechixors.com/images/opera_downloa ds.jpg

  61. slashdot should get a piece of the pie by nashy-nunu · · Score: 0, Funny

    I think from those 600K at least 25% are directed from slashdot. This is the best free advertazing ever. Anyway that, I know, was besides the point. Is he really going to swim across? I don't think a cup of mommy's chocolate will do him any good. In the contraty he can have a massive chronic diarrhoea. For that single reason I won't download Opera. I feel pitty on the poor man

  62. Re:IT: In further news... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Eyewitnesses have reported a Microsoft corporate jet in the area where von Tetzcher was last seen. According to one witness, the jet descended to just above sea level, and dropped a largem ferocious-looking fish with some sort of optical device attached to its head, into the water".

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  63. direct down load by stoney27 · · Score: 1

    Ok well I just added two to the down load count! Since the poster's direct link down loaded the windows version! Then I had to go and get my Mac version.

    -S

    --

    It is said that a child learns wisdom from the parent,
    but the truly wise parent learns joy from the child
  64. Attack on hotmail? Google maps? by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

    A million new opera users means a lot of people who can't empty their hotmail trash or get directions on google maps correctly. Of course, if enough people had opera, google and microsoft would make their sites more compatible.

    1. Re:Attack on hotmail? Google maps? by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

      Please don't spread FUD. I do both with Opera 8 beta perfectly (haven't upgraded yet, since I don't want the CEO to my favorite browser's company dead).

    2. Re:Attack on hotmail? Google maps? by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

      I've found a workaround for both but I really did run into these problems. I never had the beta version so I can't say. The hotmail issue was talked about quite extensively in their forum so I know I wasn't the only one. Do a search there for hotmail and empty. A lot of people have been bugged by it. I just went back there and did a search for google AND maps and found that people are starting to report that too. So it isn't just me.

    3. Re:Attack on hotmail? Google maps? by Rits · · Score: 2, Interesting

      About the Hotmail issue: there are limits to the webcoding stupidity that a browser can fix.

      http://my.opera.com/hallvors/journal/37

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      If you don't like having choices made for you, you should start making your own. - Neal Stephenson
    4. Re:Attack on hotmail? Google maps? by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

      It's not that I blame Opera. Like I said at the end of my original post, I hope that hotmail and google work toward making their sites more Opera-friendly. But the many new users are likely to face some problems they didn't have before...at least at first.

  65. Font Trouble by rathehun · · Score: 1
    Well - I got it off Limewire earlier this week cause their servers were still down from our last attack, and funnily enough the text is COMPLETELY unreadable. Are they overideing the default web-text with another font?

    I checked the box which says author mode and all you know, and disabled the fonts settings in the Fonts tab. Any help here?

    R.

    1. Re:Font Trouble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you downloaded an executable off a p2p network and you're complaining about it not working?

      it probably worked fine, you're probably infected with viruses and spyware

      yay you

  66. Everything is possible for those with brains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can do it.

    Just order a cruiser and swim around in a pool all day. It's possible to swim to USA that way ;*)

    Won't give as much PR though, to fool all those slashbots.. :->

    1. Re:Everything is possible for those with brains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It'll give more PR. We'll have another story about his stupid "well if you squint and look at it sideways and get a team of lawyers to argue over the details, I did sort of almost do what I said" excuse, whatever it is.

  67. like the old Burma-shave promotion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    He'll choose a 'Norway' other than the country if they hit the download mark.

    Burma-shave had a contest in 1955 to send someone to Mars (whoever was first to send in 900 empty jars of Burma-shave). An enterprising grocery store owner in Wisconsin took up the challenge and called the company's bluff.

    Burma-shave ended up sending him to Moers, Germany for a nice vacation.

    http://www.snopes.com/business/market/mars.asp has a writeup, for anyone feeling nostalgic.

  68. BREAKING NEWS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Opera's CEO drowns 5 miles off English coast

  69. Where's the counter? by jazman · · Score: 1

    Where's the link to the counter - then we can all know when to stop downloading and let them return to their normal server load?

  70. Do cruise ships stop in Iceland by metoc · · Score: 1

    He didn't say he was going to swim in the Atlantic, but across it.

    I wonder if the Queen Mary stops in Iceland?

    Does anyone know if they have Internet poolside?

  71. we all must run Windows in some form by Vandil+X · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    For such a geek heavy site as /. you'd think a download link would be to a platform select page and not the windows installer.
    Although many /. readers dislike Microsoft and/or their software, we all must run Windows in some form (be it directly or in a VM) to get certain things done.

    For example, I have to boot Windows (on a Virtual PC) just to open up my company's MS Access Databases and to test Web sites natively under IE6.
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    1. Re:we all must run Windows in some form by Dolda2000 · · Score: 1
      we all must run Windows in some form
      Isn't all a little too much? I can assure you, I manage quite well without Windows. While I did have it installed under VMWare to, as you said, test Web sites under IE6, but I removed it quite some time ago, and I certainly haven't missed it. I needed to free the disk space, and since I hadn't started it in several months...
    2. Re:we all must run Windows in some form by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *blink*

      Are you dumb as shit or do you just act like it? Idiot.

  72. Almost made it by Stevix · · Score: 0

    Their server will no doubt be unfortuneately 'slashdotted' at 999,999 downloads....only to come back up on the fifth day.

  73. Jon will swim (European humour is sick) by Marjan_G · · Score: 1

    If i see it right, number will be soon 5millions just here: http://www.download.com/Opera/3000-2356_4-10383457 .html?tag=lst-0-1.

    1. Re:Jon will swim (European humour is sick) by Rits · · Score: 2, Informative

      Download.com didn't start counting this last Tuesday... The screenshot they have is from 7.5x.

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  74. I downloaded the Mac beta. by Queer+Boy · · Score: 1

    Interface is a mess and doesn't render as nicely as KHTML or Gecko. Good first releases, though. Oh, wait...

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  75. Read the press release by Tom · · Score: 5, Informative

    You should really read the press release that is on their main site.

    It's so much tongue-in-cheek that it stops just short of saying outright "yes, it's a joke".

    Then again, it's very refreshing to see that a corporate PR department can still get away with cheap shots at the CEO. Choice quote: "However, having seen Jon in his red beach attire before, I am not sure if swimming to the USA is scarier than exposing people to this sight."

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    1. Re:Read the press release by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but this is Slashdot. People don't actually read the articles. Especially not piss-take ones, they've got to be taken seriously. ;-)

      I do like Opera, they seem to have a nice attitude, they don't take themselves too seriously. I suppose it's partly because they're not a big goliath like Microsoft or Apple as well, you just can't see Microsoft releasing a press release taking the piss out of Bill Gates...

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    2. Re:Read the press release by Klivian · · Score: 3, Informative

      >have a nice attitude, they don't take themselves too seriously.
      Corporate culture in Norway are very different from what people are used to from Amercan companies.

  76. We all use Windows... by neilb78 · · Score: 1

    Don't you know that we all use Windows? We just act like we use Linux because it's the cool thing to do. Other geeks really think you are a totally bas a$$ hacker if you say that you use Linux.

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  77. Yay, then! by LittleBigScript · · Score: 1

    Lets all kill the CEO of Opera.
    You're welcome for great software!

    Now swim.

  78. Press release... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "...Opera's communications department clearly sees the potential for two parallel campaigns with their CEO's daring act of oceanic bravery:
    Opera 8: Speed, Security, Simplicity
    Opera's CEO: Speedos, Shrinkage, Spoke-to-soon-icity
    Link to the press release: http://opera.com/pressreleases/en/2005/04/21/
  79. I tried it once by btarval · · Score: 5, Funny
    It's possible to swin across the Atlantic, but man, is it tough!

    I tried it once. I actually made it half-way across before I got too tired and had to turn around and go back.

    :)

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    The best way to predict the future is to create it. - Peter Drucker.
    1. Re:I tried it once by biglig2 · · Score: 1

      I remember you, you're the guy who just flew in from Norway. Are your arms still tired?

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    2. Re:I tried it once by rikkus-x · · Score: 0, Redundant

      That's nothing, I got 10 metres from the other coast, decided it was too much, and swam back.

      The old jokes are the best.

      Rik

    3. Re:I tried it once by elucubra · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I tried once to have a cup of chocolate at his mother's, and it was tough! What a brave man...

    4. Re:I tried it once by AviLazar · · Score: 1

      You're blonde right?

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  80. Airline by GQuon · · Score: 1, Funny

    Doesn't Virgin Atlantic have planes with pools on board?

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    1. Re:Airline by GQuon · · Score: 1

      the whole point of moderation is to keep the thread from getting bogged down in complete crap, not to make sure there are no posts which do not have 100% relevance, insight, and humor, with perfect writing style.

      And which one of those characteristics was my post lacking?

      You bastard. ;-)

      Uhm. Thanks for explaining it for those who moderate without even reading the slashdot story, much less the article. :-)

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  81. I also noticed the server stress by Jugalator · · Score: 1

    I can't recall any time Opera has had this sluggish servers on release day, so it must've got downloaded quite a bit. And I'm back to Opera too, from Firefox. Why? It's simple really -- configurable RAM cache where your settings are actually respected, 5 MB large software in total, and no XUL stuff slowing things down or eating memory, and a highly standards compliant and secure browser (judging by e.g. Secunia).

    It's also rich in basic features Firefox tend to need extensions for without becoming a sluggish piece of bloatware from it.

    In this release, it's no longer cluttered either. Something Opera have become a bit infamous for. No cluttered menus, no cluttered toolbars, nada.

    The only thing I keep complaining about is its lack of extension (no, not plugin) support. Grrr! Also, while it blocks ads well and is configurable both via filter.ini and any third party filtering proxy, it would be nice to have built-in blocking of Adblock's power and flexibility.

    Oh, and that it costs money, or otherwise ad supported. Something that definitely sticks out negatively in the browser market of today.

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  82. Re:IT: In further news... by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... a largem ferocious-looking fish with some sort of optical device attached to its head ...

    Shark with laser-beams? Cool!

    (Prepares CV for sending to Microsoft. I've always wanted to be a henchman...)

    --
    Tedious Bloggy Stuff - hooray?
  83. 1 million in 4 days is below average for Firefox by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1
    From mozilla..." Firefox browser has been downloaded more than 25 million times, fueled by consumers' demand for a faster, safer Internet experience. Released less than 100-days-ago Firefox has..."

    25 million in 100 days is a quarter million a day, right?

  84. Luxury Airline by GQuon · · Score: 0

    Or charter one of those luxury airliners with a pool on board, and the challenge will take hours instead of days to complete.

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  85. I'm just going to download their counter image... by alta · · Score: 1

    What I've been wondering is do they track that the download has COMPLETED? Although possible, I doubt it. So just start/stop it a few hundred times to do your part.

    It appears by disecting their download page code, that this image is the counter for their downloads...

    {img src=http://counts.tucows.com/count.cgi?id=122640}
    This can be found on
    http://tucows.swko.net/adnload/193751_117609.h tml

    So, ab -c 5 -n 10000000 http://counts.tucows.com/count.cgi?id=122640

    If we all did this, the guy should have to swim to the moon.

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    Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are subtle, and quick to anger.
  86. The license for the WinXP version by The-Perl-CD-Bookshel · · Score: 1
    From Tucows, "License: Adware"

    Well, I wouldn't predict 1 million downloads either.

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  87. The BeOS of web browsers by DulcetTone · · Score: 1

    In a world that already has a Linux of web browsers

    tone

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    tone
  88. The name of the Beast has a number by tepples · · Score: 2, Funny

    every where I look, another number beginning with 6.

    <aol>Me too!</aol> All I see is six, six, six. Six-hundred sixty-six. Beastly, isn't it?

  89. Free Opera! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For c't Magazine readers:
    http://www.opera.com/ct-magazin/

    The code you got in the magazine was OJD000MN.

    1. Re:Free Opera! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh. It worked! Thanks.

  90. ISO 8601 by tepples · · Score: 1

    first day then month and then year (like numbers smallest first then bigger)..

    You've thrown the fish in reverse, and now it's bass-ackwards. The International Organization for Standardization maintains that the year comes first, then the month, then the day.

    1. Re:ISO 8601 by Me303 · · Score: 0

      that is also better than month,day,year. but here in finland we speak like.. i posted that message at 18:35 and day was d22.m04.y2005 that dd/mm/yyyy make sense better than others.. even yes that iso standard is also good way. but mm/dd/yyyy is not even sounds right :/(maby in english is sound but my language is not)

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    2. Re:ISO 8601 by ahdeoz · · Score: 1, Interesting

      That's backwards. We don't want the least significant digit first. We already know what bloody millenium it is. However, knowing the day without knowing the month is almost always useless unless you're talking about the current month, e.g., "on the 18th", but no good if you're talking about "May 18th. So the American version is correct. The month, followed by the day as a unit; with year optionally appended.

    3. Re:ISO 8601 by tepples · · Score: 1

      We don't want the least significant digit first.

      When distinguishing events that happened in 1999 from events that happened in 2000, how is the millennium place "the least significant digit"? And when you sort dates, do you want April 15, 2004, sorted next to April 15, 2005, or next to April 16, 2004?

    4. Re:ISO 8601 by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      We don't want the least significant digit first.

      Do you think $90,000.75 dollars is basically the same as $9.75, because the 9 that comes first isn't really significant?

    5. Re:ISO 8601 by The+FooMiester · · Score: 1

      That's only because they were looking for a compromise.

      i.e. a situation in which nobody is happy.

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    6. Re:ISO 8601 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck! Goto School! Learn what a fucking significant digit is before you post.

    7. Re:ISO 8601 by magetoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't understand how "USA! USA! USA!" can possibly top "geeky correct". It's so obvious the right way is YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS it hurts.

      How TF can a date format that automatically sorts correctly be wrong?

    8. Re:ISO 8601 by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      AFAIK, here are the valid formats:

      Date formats:

      YYYY-MM-DD
      YYYY-WWW (year, week notation)
      YYYY-DDD (year, day notation)

      Time formats:

      HH:MM:SS.mm (milliseconds)
      HH:MM:SS
      HH:MM
      (IIRC, this is valid) HH

      Oh, and 2005-04-25 24:00:00.00 (valid, just not used that much) and 2005-04-26 00:00:00.00 are actually the same time, but in different days. No more "contest ends at 11:59 PM" stuff - it ends at 24:00.

  91. Yep... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Still sucks at advanced JavaScript and CSS. I wish they'd get it right...

    1. Re:Yep... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FUD, lies. Opera's JavaScript support is excellent, and Opera supports more CSS than any other browser.

  92. Not quite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    6.54371653 x 10^5

    is

    6.54371653e5

    because it is easier to type in a program than 6.54371653e5 * 10^5

    Anyhow in the engineering convention we only use the powers divisible by 3 i.e.

    12.3456 mV
    12.3456e-3

    654.371653 KV
    654.371653e3

    1.23456 nV
    1.23456e-9

  93. Re:600.001 times by AetherShade · · Score: 1

    Make that 600.001 times, I started the download, but I quit after 1/1000 of the files were downloaded.

  94. small shell script? by infinite9 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looks like you're trying to replace the CEO of opera with a small shell script! :-D

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    1. Re:small shell script? by RhadamanthosIsChaos · · Score: 1

      It looks like you're trying to replace the CEO of Opera with a small shell script. Would you like some help with that, Skipper?

      Ref: Binky

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    2. Re:small shell script? by DeathByDuke · · Score: 0

      I don't think he'd like you insulting the size of his shell script!

  95. So??? by porkUpine · · Score: 1

    What makes Opera better than Firefox? Why would I PAY for a browser? These are serious questions...Any serious answers are appreciated.

    1. Re:So??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Opera you can zoom in and out, it had tabbed browsing and other now-popular features for a long time and is very configureable.. I can put a button on my toolbar to turn my proxy on and off without digging through the configuration for example... its pretty nice.. I wish you guys would stop bashing it.. if its not worth while to you don't pay the 40 dollars

    2. Re:So??? by hkmwbz · · Score: 1

      Smaller, faster, more secure, more functionality built in, and everything is working smoothly together, as opposted to being crudely tacked onto the program in the form of untested third party software.

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  96. Finally a commercial browser by orionware · · Score: 0, Troll

    Finally! Someone understands that what the net loving community needs is $39 web browser! No longer will I have use one of those crappy free browsers.

    Ie?! Come on, it's free!
    Moz/Fox? They are even worse because you get the source code if you want. I don't know where you are from, but where I'm from, that's a glaring sign of BULLSHIT!

    Thanks Opera Man (Ahh. When SNL sucked LESS). I hope you hit a million. Maybe you and your unimportant contribution to the long ago won browser war will sink into the icy waters. Like Netcrap did..

    Go ahead. Mod me down..

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  97. easy to do... by stinkpad · · Score: 1

    recirc. lap tank inside a jet.... You swim, it flies. :)

  98. Intelligent move by northcat · · Score: 1

    How intelligent. People will start downloading to make him swim and the marketing department will get very nice figures to use in Ads. "1 million downloads in 4 days! Better than firefox (ed: I think). Don't YOU want to download it too?" "1 million think it's great. What do YOU think?". Heck, even a large number of people who downloaded themselves are going to try out Opera and many of them will even switch to and maybe even buy the commercial version. Shit loads of cash for Opera. And everything will be even more better for Opera if the figures reach 9,80,000 in four days. Or if they have an "internal" memo which says something along this lines of this will only apply for the Windows version of Opera. (Wait, isn't the Windows version the only version available for download now?) Personally, I try not to use anything from companies which do publicity stunts like this. I didn't download it. I ask you not to do so too.

    1. Re:Intelligent move by hkmwbz · · Score: 1

      Of course I will download it. Opera is a tiny software company in a world of other browser owned or sponsored by huge corporations (IE = Microsoft, Mozilla = Sun, IBM, Nokia, etc.). A PR stunt like this shows that the tiny company Opera Software doesn't take itself too seriously, which is a good thing.

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  99. used? by Tharkban · · Score: 1

    Downloaded it, read the license, erased it.

    Perhaps I should have wasted his bandwidth another week. :)

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  100. Do the math (some what ifs) by DrWhizBang · · Score: 1

    With a few quick calculations base on the information in the article we can see whether or not Jon is totally out of his tree. Of course I have done some rounding, and had to guess at one number, but the rest of thsi should be fairly accurate.

    9:00 am CET = 8:00 am GMT
    current time = 15:40 GMT
    time remaining = 16:20:00

    worst case
    -
    opera servers meltdown -> 120 downloads/sec = 432,000/hour
    16.3 * 432000 = 7,041,600

    current total = 600,000
    potential worst case total = 7,641,600

    projected from current download rate
    -
    time of launch = sometime tuesday? (lets estimate noon local) tuesday 11:00 GMT
    elapsed time since launch = 76:40
    average download rate since launch = 7823 downloads/hour
    remaining time 16:20
    7823 * 16.3 = 127,510

    current total 600,000
    potential expected total 727,510

    -

    So it definitely within the realm of physics that he could be swimming, but not too likely.

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    1. Re:Do the math (some what ifs) by UfoZ · · Score: 1

      And it's up to us to make sure he swims! Here's me doing my part:

      $ for ((a=0; a<999999; a++)); do echo $a; wget http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=26712; done

  101. On the side of this... by Eminence · · Score: 1
    I downloaded the new Opera after the previous /. story and I started to look at memory footprint of running application as compared to Firefox. I discovered that with the same sites opened in three tabs Opera took less memory, so intending to write about it I set about repeating the exercise. I closed both browsers, opened them and do exactly the same thing in both. This time Opera took more system memory than Firefox, although started smaller. What gives? Why their behavior is not deterministic?

    To keep with the story I actually don't care whether Opera's CEO sinks while trying to swim across the ocean. This is just a piece of mind-virus advertising. Although, for the sake of his life he might consider using a raft, this could be feasible especially if it would be equipped with a small sail.

  102. CURL by rmiller021 · · Score: 0

    Fun way curl ftp://ftp.130th.net/pub/mirror/opera/win/800/en/ow 32enen800.exe > /dev/null

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  103. Re:I've told all my friends! by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

    Guess I should've been more clear, I told all my friends to DOWNLOAD Opera. Not sure how that would be Offtopic...

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  104. Better get his swimming trunks by jim_v2000 · · Score: 1

    That was NOT a good thing to post on Slashdot for him....

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  105. SuperCEO by RichardX · · Score: 1

    Is that him looking all heroic in the cape on Opera's front page?
    If so, he's obviously a superhero, so the swim should be pretty easy for him, but shouldn't be be rescuing kittens out of trees or something?
    And what exactly would his superpowers be?
    It says on the site "Speed, simplicity, security". I'm not entirely convinced that "simplicity" is a really good superpower. I think I'd prefer invisibility...

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    1. Re:SuperCEO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      H + ctrl ^o^

  106. iKnow iWhat iYou iMean!(TM) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just today I installed iTunes, was completely bowled over

    Yeah, it is cool how it is sooo memory hungry, is as responsive to input as a slug, the audio skips at times, the GUI is designed to be shinny and not much else, and can't sort stuff based on file path.

    Plus it comes a visualization setting that has to let everyone know that it is made by Apple! It is the best part and they need to get it to display the Apple logo 99% of the time, not 89%!

  107. Where is the outrage? by aardwolf64 · · Score: 1

    I have to admit that this is the first time I've tried using Opera... When you install it, it asks if you want to be force-fed ads based on your browsing or force-fed ads anonymously.

    So, by downloading and using Opera you're supporting adware. Imagine the outrage that would occur if Internet Explorer included ads built into the browser and Microsoft offered to remove them if you paid for it. I do believe there would be lawsuits galore. I searched through the comments to this post, and I saw nothing mentioning these forced ads.

    Where is the outrage? Why is Opera treated any differently than IE?

    1. Re:Where is the outrage? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cause dummy its a real nice browser and the ads make it pratically useless for a reason!!.. he wants people to try it and see it and say "The web is much nicer with opera except for those darn ads and that huge chunk of my display I can't use" so then you will either go buy it, or you will not buy it. Considering how the web browser might be the most used application on my computer, It makes sense to have the nicest one be it free or modestly priced.. nobody expects you to use opera with the ads. Has far as Microsoft putting ads in IE.. I am not a MS-HATER but IE sucks and I know they would not be willing to shrink thier browser share by including ads

      IE was made to dominate
      Opera was made to be super-nice

    2. Re:Where is the outrage? by Moderator · · Score: 0

      There is no preferential treatment, those of us that care are all using Seamonkey.

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    3. Re:Where is the outrage? by hkmwbz · · Score: 2, Informative
      "So, by downloading and using Opera you're supporting adware."
      Nothing wrong with that. Adware != spyware.
      "Imagine the outrage that would occur if Internet Explorer included ads built into the browser and Microsoft offered to remove them if you paid for it. I do believe there would be lawsuits galore. I searched through the comments to this post, and I saw nothing mentioning these forced ads."
      Forced ads? Lawsuits? First of all, you already pay for IE. It's part of the Windows OS, which is not free. Secondly, Opera is the only independent browser vendor (IE = Microsoft, Mozilla = IBM, Nokia, Sun, etc.), and no one is forcing you to use Opera. However, you can use it for free in ad sponsored mode, or you can buy it to get rid of the ads.

      Opera has to fund development somehow, and basically your comment is nothing but FUD.

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    4. Re:Where is the outrage? by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Mozilla = AOL, last I checked.

      FWIW, IBM and Nokia ARE Opera business partners, and Nokia is one of the biggest purchasers of Opera (heck, they even got a CUSTOM VERSION!) Yes, Nokia funds Mozilla, also, for MiniMo.

      Oh, and Adobe and Macromedia (same company now, though) were both business partners (Dreamweaver and GoLive used Presto, their rendering engine). Now, Adobe uses Presto in CS2.

    5. Re:Where is the outrage? by hkmwbz · · Score: 1
      "Mozilla = AOL, last I checked."
      Yes, that's where it started. But today, Mozilla gets its funding from other major corporations.
      "FWIW, IBM and Nokia ARE Opera business partners, and Nokia is one of the biggest purchasers of Opera (heck, they even got a CUSTOM VERSION!) Yes, Nokia funds Mozilla, also, for MiniMo."
      Right. The difference is that Opera actually sells a product to Nokia. Nokia doesn't just give Opera money. They have a specific business contract, etc.
      "Oh, and Adobe and Macromedia (same company now, though) were both business partners (Dreamweaver and GoLive used Presto, their rendering engine). Now, Adobe uses Presto in CS2."
      Very true, and the difference between Opera and Mozilla is that Opera needs to sell a product, whereas Mozilla is left alone to, well, do as it pleases, and it gets lots of cash from several huge corporations. Nokia, some have speculated, are funding Mozilla to avoid antitrust lawsuits (seeing as they are working on their own browser as well).
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  108. stupid slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Already maxed out the number of user::downloads

  109. Can't swim while floating so high by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1
    Only did a dry-suit dive once (just for the experience of the suiting up proceedure,etc) and since they can act as a flotation device (especially wiht the warm fuzzies underneath) it shouldn't be much of a problem... Hands, feet, and face will be awful cold though.

    That *is* the problem. You try actually surface swimming in that dry suit? You can't get anywhere because you float far too well. Can't get traction in the water.

    Maybe a drysuit and an outboard motor?

    1. Re:Can't swim while floating so high by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Problem isn't so much bouyancy as it is resistance and "traction". A few dive weights solves the "floats too much" problem, but without flippers it will be hard to get enough "shove" in the water to move.

      I do like the idea of an outboard motor though :)

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    2. Re:Can't swim while floating so high by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1
      A few dive weights solves the "floats too much" problem

      This is true. But no one mentioned a weightbelt, perhaps I'm being obnoxious today.

      but without flippers it will be hard to get enough "shove" in the water to move.

      Also true. Oddly enough, I gave him credit for fins if not the belt.

      I do like the idea of an outboard motor though :)

      I've thought about it while trying to get out a few hundred yards in the Pacifid before descending. ;)

  110. What was on fire? The laser beams or the sharks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes

  111. Re:One word: stupid by crabpeople · · Score: 1

    why is this funny? it doesnt have anything to do with anything.. ooo his penis might become a bit smaller untill he dries off - wtf does that have to do with the parent or the grand parent post?

    seriously sometimes i think most of slashdot is made up of 13 year old gigiling schoolgirls

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  112. OTOH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I planned to give these guys some time to breathe and I would d/l Opera in some days, maybe next month.

    But now I have a reason to help them set a d/l record.

    >:-D

  113. I was going to download it at home by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    but I've only got 233 MHz and 96MB of RAM, so I guess I'll stick with Opera 7.

    Seriously, why bother upgrading? It works fine on my machine there, and Firefox works ok on my 450 MHz 512MB RAM Linux servers.

    And it won't run on my iMac 96MB RRAM machine either.

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    1. Re:I was going to download it at home by hkmwbz · · Score: 1
      "but I've only got 233 MHz and 96MB of RAM, so I guess I'll stick with Opera 7."
      Opera 8 is actually faster than Opera 7, and has the same system requirements.
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  114. Greenland = Norway by kgruscho · · Score: 1

    Hey Kids,

    Greenland can be considering part of norway. go wiki it. or look at many maps

    moreover the US has a big military base in iceland which is almost certainly considered US territory!!

    Greenland to Iceland with a stop in Iceland!

  115. Lame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's pretty lame. They can just under-report the downloads (since no one can call them on it) and label it as "998,426" or something, and it's "almost" 1 million, but not quite, so please, move along, nothing to see here, just some PR.

  116. Re:IT: In further news... by niteice · · Score: 1

    DEEP-SEA FANGLY FISH!

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  117. Re:IT: In further news... by wisdom_brewing · · Score: 1

    they couldnt get sharks. they had to go with mutated killer sea bass

  118. He didn't say when by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    With all this global warming stuff, maybe he'll wait a while before swimming.

  119. Greenland = Denmark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CIA Factbook entry on Greenland

    "The world's largest island, Greenland is about 81% ice-capped. Vikings reached the island in the 10th century from Iceland; Danish colonization began in the 18th century and Greenland was made an integral part of Denmark in 1953. It joined the European Community (now the European Union) with Denmark in 1973 but withdrew in 1985 over a dispute over stringent fishing quotas. Greenland was granted self-government in 1979 by the Danish parliament. The law went into effect the following year. Denmark continues to exercise control of Greenland's foreign affairs."

  120. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  121. Re:One word: stupid by DavidTC · · Score: 1

    The internet. Where men are men, women are men, and 13 year old schoolgirls are FBI agents.

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  122. Re:1 million in 4 days is below average for Firefo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But it's been MORE than 25 million in LESS than 100 days, which means the average is greater than 1 million per 4 days, which means the OP is right and this is below Firefox's average.

  123. Re:IT: In further news... by iamwahoo2 · · Score: 1

    are they ill-tempered?

  124. Such crap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is such crap. I didn't know Slashdot was providing free PR to companies that aren't Microsoft.

  125. This just in , Moderators idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This post is a troll , the parent is obviously not a troll .
    You retarded morons.
    now can you see the difrence , can you , can you .

  126. I feel a little odd now.... by dickeya · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...knowing I just downloaded a piece of software with no intention of using it just to see someone perform a task during which they will surely die.

    What support group do I go to for this?

  127. In Other News.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SCO's CEO Darl McBride promised He will get a breast job if 1.000.000 linux licenses are sold.

  128. Why should I buy? by firephreek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I went through the site, saw the screen shots...What is the difference between this and Firefox? I'm not too familiar with this thing called Opera, I've only watched it here and there. What makes it worth the $40?

    1. Re:Why should I buy? by MobileC · · Score: 1

      I've done the opposite.
      I have been using Opera for years and recently installed Firefox and it feels a lot slower and clunkier.

      Opera works for me.

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  129. Odd Download Link by nandhp · · Score: 1

    Anybody notice the odd download link? http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=26666&loca tion=93&nothanks=yes&sub=marine

  130. Re:IT: In further news... by The+UberDork · · Score: 0

    The Red Steckled Elbermung

  131. did my part 50 downloads... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now my only concern is... does he plan to swim in the ocean or will he choose to swim a nice heated pool on a big boat?

    And do I have to install it or just download it a bunch?

  132. Four words: by SEWilco · · Score: 1

    Cruise ship.
    Swimming pool.

  133. Maybe he should revise by AviLazar · · Score: 1

    "Swim from Norway to the US....or die trying" Sorry there is no way. It would take him months to do it - assuming he had the stamina. People barely do the English channel, no way he is doing this little pond.

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  134. Re:Duplicate this story!!! by Dracos · · Score: 1

    Slashdot effect reaches into meatspace, heh.

  135. Guinness World Records by code65536 · · Score: 1

    Longest swim: 197 km from Mexico to Cuba.
    Source: http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/index.asp?ID=5 4452

    I guess the trans-Atlantic swim mentioned earlier didn't count because that was done at intervals.

  136. sure why not by AviLazar · · Score: 1

    I guess this is as good a time as any to test Opera with my company eLearning software... that or be considered aiding pre-meditated murder/suicide ;)

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  137. Re:One word: stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This may not have anything to do with the parent post, and it may not be very funny, but it may be a reference to TFA. Quote from said article...

    Opera 8 is launched under the campaign heading "Speed, Security, Simplicity" to firmly position Opera as the fast, secure and easy-to-use browser. However, Opera's communications department clearly sees the potential for two parallel campaigns with their CEO's daring act of oceanic bravery:

    * Opera 8: Speed, Security, Simplicity
    * Opera's CEO: Speedos, Shrinkage, Spoke-too-soon-icit

  138. License: Adware by Junior+Samples · · Score: 1
    Opera 8.0 License: Adware
    No Thanks!
  139. Re:C'mon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guess you never heard of proxies.

  140. not to be outdone... by lost+in+place · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news, the CEO of Intel declared that he is looking for a copy of the April 19, 1965 issue of Electronics containing Moore's original article predicting 'Moore's Law.' "If I can find one", he declared, "I will personally swim from Santa Clara, California to Phoenix, Arizona!" After aides pointed out to him that there is technically no waterway connecting the two cities, he announced that his decision was not yet final and "some details still had to be worked out". Speaking on condition of anonymity, several top PR flacks worldwide expressed concern that this whole thing was getting out of hand.

  141. Help is here for the clueless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Ha, how else would I know so much about it? I use it daily. Moving flashing banner ads suck no matter how you look at it.

    Clearly, you'd rather bitch than do something about it.

    1) Get rid of redundant toolbar at top (the one with "panels"). For the really clueless, right-click over the bar, select "Customize" and select "Off" from the drop-down.
    2) Select text ads in options.
    3) Window at top goes across entire screen, is 1/20th of vertical height (the height of a small toolbar), shows only text and never flashes. Big freakin' deal.
    4) Opera gets tiny bit of revenue and one day might profit from creating superior browser.

    There now, that was difficult.

  142. Only on Slashdot by rk · · Score: 1

    Can an article written about the antics of a computer software CEO garner a post of Led Zeppelin lyrics.

    And then have that post marked "Informative". :-)

  143. Nitpicking by mangu · · Score: 1
    At the end is a small cup to add drag.


    Not quite. Drag was added by a round piece of wood, i.e. a "log". That's where "log book" comes from, it was the book where the knot counts from the string attached to the log were written down.

    1. Re:Nitpicking by dangitman · · Score: 1
      Not quite. Drag was added by a round piece of wood, i.e. a "log". That's where "log book" comes from, it was the book where the knot counts from the string attached to the log were written down.

      Curse you for shattering my illusion of the Captain writing in a book that's big, heavy and wood (and fits on his back).

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    2. Re:Nitpicking by bheerssen · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the correction. It's been many years since I studied maritime history. The details have a way of escaping me over time. ;)

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  144. Damn by darkonc · · Score: 1
    .... Need ... Mod .... Points ....


    sklfjm ,

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  145. their css support is still broken... by potsmaster · · Score: 1

    downloading opera is a waste of time other than to see how badly it still buggers up displaying my webpages.

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  146. Only if 1mil copies are NOT downloaded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read the original story. The ./ version left out one key word, "not". To make him swim, wait till Sunday to download. He wants to beat Firefox getting 1 mil in 5 days...

    http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/business/0,39023166 ,3 9189215,00.htm

    1. Re:Only if 1mil copies are NOT downloaded by hkmwbz · · Score: 1

      You are wrong, ZDNET didn't read the actual press release. He will swim if they do get one million downloads in four days.

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  147. Re:IT: In further news... by neolith · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...dropped a largem ferocious-looking fish with some sort of optical device attached to its head...

    What would a shark do with an intellimouse(tm)?

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  148. The grandparent is quite accurate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Moron.

  149. Re:IT: In further news... by Loko+Draucarn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Still, he's Icelandic. He should have no trouble with a shark. (1)

    The only thing to worry about is the lasers, and a reflective bodysuit would handle that pretty well. (Of course, then he looks like the Silver Surfer, and then we've got Galactus to worry about.)

  150. DDOS... by Idarubicin · · Score: 1

    Distributed Denial of Survival.

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  151. Re:One word: stupid by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 1

    As one poster pointed out, it is a reference to Sienfeld, crabby.

  152. A Swimming Pool on a Cruise Ship... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... can help accomplish this feat!

  153. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm no browser expert but I'm happy with FF. Is there a compelling reason to try Opera? If there is, cool. I'll try it...

    1. Re:Who cares? by fidelius · · Score: 2, Informative

      Opera's generally faster than Firefox, and handles tabbed windows in a much more intelligent way. Though you can get most of the same functionality from FF with plugins Opera works properly from the get go.

      If you use POP mail the M2 mail client is also great, though it takes some getting used to. Works on filters rather than folders, much like Gmail.

      The Opera/FF war is always flamebait, so I won't say Opera's best for everyone, but if you haven't looked at it already it's worth trying.

    2. Re:Who cares? by Baricom · · Score: 1

      I've tried 6.0, 7.0, and 8.0, and Opera's always felt a little flaky to me. My main complaint is the toolbars don't do what I want them to do - namely, stay in the same place. That progress bar that comes up when Opera's loading a page doesn't show up on my copy - it's only a little stub about 10 pixels tall that peaks out from the bottom of the window.

      In contrast, the only Firefox bug that irritates me (and not as badly as Opera's overall feel) is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21576 2 (not linked because Bugzilla blocks Slashdot).

      I trust Firefox, whereas I feel like I have to tiptoe around Opera.

    3. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like Firefox BECAUSE it doesn't come loaded like Opera. I tried Opera, and it was just too crowded at base install for my taste. Firefox is like a platter that i can get my own choice of options for. Opera is the same platter, already loaded with a lot of shit i don't need. I just prefer to add on the options i want, not take off options that didn't need to come with the browser in the first place.

      wub Firefox

  154. Download it! by ZeroZen · · Score: 1

    Well, i'm downloading it and trying it.
    Let's see him swim!

  155. Someone has swum across the Atlantic... by aratuk · · Score: 1

    From this site:

    Lecomte, born 1967, immigrated from France to Austin, Texas, at age 23. When his father died of colon cancer in 1992, it spurred him to do something extraordinary to raise awareness of and money for cancer research. With the help of Edward Coyle, director of UT Austin's Human Performance Lab, and dieticians, Lecomte trained to build his endurance, swimming and cycling 3 to 5 hours a day, six days a week for two years. On 16 July 1998 he set out from Cape Cod with 8 wet suits, a snorkel and some flippers into turning weather. Navigated through the 40th and 50th latitude by two French sailors on a 12m (40 foot) sailboat and protected by an electronic force field, Lecomte swam 6 to 8 hours a day at two-hour intervals. He mainly used the crawl stroke, switching occasionally to a mono fin and using an undulating dolphin kick to carry him over the 5 600km (3 736 nautical miles) of relentless waves. 72 days later, on 28 September, he swam ashore exhausted but heroic at Quiberon, France.

  156. Re:IT: In further news... by dangitman · · Score: 1
    What would a shark do with an intellimouse(tm)?

    Use its ergonomic point-and-chomp interface, of course.

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    ... and then they built the supercollider.
  157. Opera Man by Deflatamouse! · · Score: 1

    Is the guy in tights on the homepage opera man?

  158. How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    swimming from Norway, Maine, USA to USA? Oh yeah, Iceland isnt quite on the way, but nevermind that. :)

  159. Re:I'm just going to download their counter image. by Rits · · Score: 1

    The 'who's got the most downloads' game is silly, but apparently the Firefox promotors think it's terribly significant (see SpreadFirefox.com).

    So it's really ironic that so many people tell on slashdot that they are downloading like crazy to see Jon swim, all the while helping Opera beat Firefox in this silly game :)

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    If you don't like having choices made for you, you should start making your own. - Neal Stephenson
  160. So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who gives a damn?

    What a shameless plug! Seems like Slashdot goes a little more commercial every day. Product introductions, book advertisements, movie advertisements. Are you guys now accepting kickbacks from these posters? Jeez.

    If I said I would stand on my head if 1000 slashdotters bought some inane product I manufactured, would slashdot publish it? These manipulative, self-serving posts are becoming ever more common, and ever more irritating.

  161. No better way to announce your product sucks! by BigTunaCan · · Score: 0

    To paraphrse what he is saying... "Opera sucks so bad there is no way we will hit 1 million downloads in 4 days. Our product just isn't worth downloading. Seriously, I'm so sure our product sucks that if I am wrong and people are actually interested in it I will go jump in the ocean and drown myself."

  162. DMCA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Distributed Murder CEO Attack

  163. it does take a bit of time to configure by alizard · · Score: 1
    Not to get it to work, to get it the way you want it, if you have fixed ideas about that. Which I do.

    Practically every element in the UI is user- customizable.

    You don't like toolbar locations? Or what's in them? Right-click to open the "customize toolbars" and have a good time dragging and dropping. (if it isn't in there, try Preferences in the Tools menu.) Perhaps sticking the Progress Bar somewhere else would help.

    I've been using it since V4 in Windows, I'm using v7.54 in Linux and if I weren't going out the door in a few, I'd be downloading V8 right now.

    BTW, it's got an RSS reader built in as well.

  164. Re:Well then. A private jet with a pool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thinking of a private jet with a pool...
    It's too bad Concordes don't fly anymore.
    Would that be decadence worthy of the dot.com boom?

  165. They already use ISO 8601 ... IN JAPAN! by tepples · · Score: 1

    You claim that "nobody is happy" under ISO 8601. Well, haven't China and Japan used the ISO 8601 date format for as long as they've been using the Gregorian calendar?

  166. Look how far it is... by tit0.c · · Score: 1

    Also, I was trying to find how far he would have to swim and found this site where I found theres a town called Oslo in the USA and also found that he would have to swim 683 miles (5927 km) (3200 nautical miles) from Oslo to New York (they didn`t have any norwegian coastal towns available for search).

  167. my favourite bit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    watch the greased up ceo guy

  168. So mean by TLouden · · Score: 1

    that's not very fair. what with the taking advantage of slashdot effect to make the poor guy stick to his words, we'll all download it and never even look at it, hell I downloaded to /tmp

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    -Tim Louden
  169. Yes, but what he didn't tell you was... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that he would be swimming in the heated pool of his personal yatch

    that and the fact that his distribution servers' internet connnection could not possibly support 1 million download in 4 days.

    Just another CEO following JhOdeham's law: never bet on anything unless you already know the outcome.

  170. Attention by Ramon+Maruko · · Score: 1

    Who wouldnt want to watch an idiot swimming in the cold seas? This is just to attract attention so that many people will download Opera.

    1. Re:Attention by hkmwbz · · Score: 1
      "Who wouldnt want to watch an idiot swimming in the cold seas? This is just to attract attention so that many people will download Opera."
      No shit, Sherlock... PR it is, and it works, and it's nice with a company that doesn't take itself so seriously it can't make a joke.
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  171. Paying for a browser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After paying a relatively high price to register the bug riddled and somewhat incomplete Opera 3.62 browser - because I wanted to support a non M$, non-Netscape choice in the marketplace - when Opera proudly offered a short while later to give me a *discount* (something like -only- $25 for the upgrade) on the opportunity to buy a more bloated and perhaps more bug-free upgrade, that's when I decided that paying for a browser was a bad investment and spending money on "causes" was ill-advised.

    Note to software CEOs: if you're trying to sell something that is availble free, don't screw over the people who do buy your product. They have long memories.

    1. Re:Paying for a browser by hkmwbz · · Score: 1
      "Opera proudly offered a short while later to give me a *discount* (something like -only- $25 for the upgrade)"
      Uh, the upgrade price is USD 15 today. It was probably something like 10 back then. Also, you get every second upgrade for free. Also, if you bought Opera just before 7.0, you have gotten more than two years of free upgrades, and Opera 8.0 is a free upgrade to everyone.
      "Note to software CEOs: if you're trying to sell something that is availble free, don't screw over the people who do buy your product. They have long memories."
      Apparently not, since they can't even remember what they paid! Screw over? FUD.

      Don't feed the AC trolls... Sorry, I shouldn't have posted.

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  172. Something doable? by serutan · · Score: 1

    Okay, the gauntlet has been thrown. If the download count hits a million within the time limit, then I will personally have sex with every member of the Swedish Bikini Team. And I won't even stop for hot chocolate.

  173. Here's how he's going to do it: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of his staffers just blogged about how the CEO's going to do it ;) You didn't hear it from me, did you?

    http://my.opera.com/nicomen/journal/2

  174. core dumped by aanzelm · · Score: 1
    He got 2 downloads from me Trying to run it on fedora core 3:
    First the version *FOR* FC3:
    # rpm -Uvh opera-8.0-20050415.6-shared-qt.i386-en.rpm
    >rehash
    >opera Segmentation fault opera (core dumped)
    This crashed before it even opened a window...
    OK, how about the version for other Fedora systems
    #rpm -Uvh opera-8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt.i386-en.rpm
    >opera
    Segmentation fault opera (core dumped)
    (this time after opening 4 tabs - google, /., cnn, gazeta.pl)

    Thank you opera, and good bye!

    1. Re:core dumped by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Hmm...

      I can explain the first (nasty Qt linking issues - happened back in the 7.x days with the one they recommended for SuSE), but not the second.

      FWIW, try downloading "Other/Static RPM". It's static Qt, so it'll fix any Qt issues. As for other issues, well, I have no idea.