Yes, well, I know it exists because I worked for Sun until I was RIF'd in February. This place is full of anti-Sun bigotry, hatred and lies. It's kind of ironic, because despite Jonathan Schwartz's mouth, Sun is very Open Source and Free Software freindly. It's just been getting a bit pointy-haired recently.
Anyway, it's not my problem any more, thank goodness.
I saw a presentation on CPU design a couple of years back. It had graphs of heat output for various CPU designs. The high-end Pentium IV Xeon had higher surface heat density than an AGR, in fact I think it was nearer to a Fast Reactor.
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At least we don't have to worry about the horror of having to downgrading from 2.96 to 2.95. Was I the only one about to give up on Linux after that disaster?
I didn't have to worry about that horror at all and I'm into my 10th year of using Linux now. You see, gcc-2.96 was a RedHat-only branch of gcc and it was broken. So you tried RedHat once and were put off Linux? RedHat may be corporate America's standar d Linux, but it's by no means the only Linux or the best.
Personally I nearly lost my marriage due to the hours I was working last year - and then watched yet some very good friends who are outstanding engineers get riffed after actually deystroying their personal relationships because they were working so hard. I love working here, but my marriage and my personal life are much more important, which is why I am looking elsewhere at the moment.
That goes to show just how desperate things got at Sun. The same almost happened to me too, but luckily they put me out of my misery earlier this year.
When I interviewed for the job at Sun, they assured my that Sun wasn't like that, and it wasn't at first.
Where the PHBs went wrong was not listening to us when we warned them of the competition coming along from cheap PeeCees (the AMD vs intel performance war). They didn't believe that Opteron would work, and almost ignored it until it was too late. I remember seeing a talk given by Bo Thorsen of SuSE who was working on the AMD64 port of Linux (on a software simulator on an Athlon laptop) back in 2001. Sun didn't do the AMD64 port of Solaris until 2004.
They continue to be disrespectful of Linux and the Free and Open Source software communities, thinking that as long as they suck up to Wall Street, everything will be all right. Jonathan Schwartz makes disparaging and inflammatory comments about Free software in public, thus alienating thousands of developers who would otherwise be ensuring their code compiles and runs on Solaris.
Finally, UltraSPARC development has been way too slow. They are effectively cancelling it now in favour of Fujitsu SPARC64 and niche products like Niagara and ROCK. TI is partly to blame, as far as I can tell.
Solaris is a great product. The Opteron workstations and servers are great products. The high-end SPARC machines are great products. They scale superbly, and when UltraSPARC IV+ comes out, they'll be competitive again.
There are thousands of great people at Sun, and I really feel for them. I'm sorry things have gotten to this, and I sincerely hope that things improve soon for everyone's sake.
This is one of the many shortcomings of C. In the old days, in FORTRAN, you could say INTEGER*4 and be sure you were getting 4 bytes.
So you go and make a bunch of typedefs for things to garantee storage is of the required size and then some smarty-pants comes along and says "you mustn't do that. It's not how the language is supposed to be used Blah blah blah blah confusing for other people blah blah blah might introduce bugs blah blah blah why do you think you know better that the people that wrote the compiler"
So you leave and do something where there people aren't a bunch of anally-retentive tossers. Or become a skr1pt k1dd13.
It'll be futile, though. There are too many idiots who think they're smarter than the compiler and system header files and just know that size_t isn't really size_t, it's really unsigned int because that's what it was on the toy system they coded on while getting thier masters from Podunk U.
What does it matter how bit size_t is, as long as it's big enough to hold the size of the largets data structure on the system? Shouldn't you be using size_t instead of unsigned? Or is that the point you're trying to make?
Darn, I have even seen people leaving.40 GBP (pences) in the chocolate vending machines!! it seems they put the pound and they dont like the change. I make the conversion and think "oh my god, it is $8.0 MXP!!! I can buy a chocolate with that =oD)
There's a lot of snobbery here in the UK (not just England). If people drop their change on the ground, they often won't pick it up for fear of appearing cheap.
People here often go out of their way to buy the most expensive stuff they can because they think it must be better or to show everyone else just how rich and discerning they are.
Like you, I've often had many free snacks from vending machines because people have walked off and left their change. I've also almost managed to fund a night out from picking up the odd pund here and there off the floor...
I've had many useful computer parts from the local rubbish dump.
I'm not a miserable, stingy Scottish git for nothing:-)
Here in the UK, CDs in the big shops cost anything up to £18. That's about US$34 at current exchange rates. I shop at an independent store and I can get most things for about £13-£15 or about $25.
I'm very choosy about what I buy, and only buy 5-10 CDs a year nowadays. I don't download and I don't listen to music radio, since I don't want to hear Britney Spearmint-Gum, Sealion Dijon, Boyz'R'Us and the All-Whingers or whatever there is nowadays.
If CDs cost $15 here (i.e. under £8) I'd be more inclined to buy many more.
My Athlon is x86 does that mean its better then Windows x64... When will micro soft bring out a 86 bits version of Windows to make full use of all the Athlon's
Most of us here could see this happening. I really despair at mass media, the general public and big companies. No one listens.
So people are annoyed that they can't transfer the files they've paid for, the sound quality isn't that good and sometimes they've paid for something that didn't download properly so they paid to download it again?
More fool them: the consumers and the companies.
I'll stick to buying CDs (but not the Copy Protected ones) by bands I like and going to live shows.
The fundamental problem here is that the music industry wants to get rich off of simplistic, mass-produced music, i.e. the stuff that appeals to young kids with no money.
If they want a healthy, sustainable and profitable business they need to downsize and focus on producing a quality product.
This is a short-comming of the design of 64-bit debian systems. The way Solaris does it is to have 32-bit and 64-bit user-land libraries and utilities side-by-side so that you can run 32-bit and 64-bit binaries on the same 64-bit system at the same time. The debian people chose to break backwards compatibility when they went to 64-bit. I suppose from debian's ideological point of view "everyone should be using Free software and compiling from source" so it doesn't matter. However, in the real world, it does.
Now, if only someone would lend me an AMD64 machine I'd do that badly-needed Slackware AMD64 port, and I'd do it like Solaris...
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Anyway, it's not my problem any more, thank goodness.
Can I have a job please?
I saw a presentation on CPU design a couple of years back. It had graphs of heat output for various CPU designs. The high-end Pentium IV Xeon had higher surface heat density than an AGR, in fact I think it was nearer to a Fast Reactor.
I didn't have to worry about that horror at all and I'm into my 10th year of using Linux now. You see, gcc-2.96 was a RedHat-only branch of gcc and it was broken. So you tried RedHat once and were put off Linux? RedHat may be corporate America's standar d Linux, but it's by no means the only Linux or the best.
Shut up and get back to your cave paintings.
That goes to show just how desperate things got at Sun. The same almost happened to me too, but luckily they put me out of my misery earlier this year.
When I interviewed for the job at Sun, they assured my that Sun wasn't like that, and it wasn't at first.
Where the PHBs went wrong was not listening to us when we warned them of the competition coming along from cheap PeeCees (the AMD vs intel performance war). They didn't believe that Opteron would work, and almost ignored it until it was too late. I remember seeing a talk given by Bo Thorsen of SuSE who was working on the AMD64 port of Linux (on a software simulator on an Athlon laptop) back in 2001. Sun didn't do the AMD64 port of Solaris until 2004.
They continue to be disrespectful of Linux and the Free and Open Source software communities, thinking that as long as they suck up to Wall Street, everything will be all right. Jonathan Schwartz makes disparaging and inflammatory comments about Free software in public, thus alienating thousands of developers who would otherwise be ensuring their code compiles and runs on Solaris.
Finally, UltraSPARC development has been way too slow. They are effectively cancelling it now in favour of Fujitsu SPARC64 and niche products like Niagara and ROCK. TI is partly to blame, as far as I can tell.
Solaris is a great product. The Opteron workstations and servers are great products. The high-end SPARC machines are great products. They scale superbly, and when UltraSPARC IV+ comes out, they'll be competitive again.
There are thousands of great people at Sun, and I really feel for them. I'm sorry things have gotten to this, and I sincerely hope that things improve soon for everyone's sake.
I thought they threw petrol bombs, smashed up McDonalds "restaurants" and burned down Starbucks' nowadays.
"Disinterested" means "unbiased." I believe you meant uninterested.
I've also noticed recently that a lot of people here write "then" when they mean "than."
Yes, but it might disappear and reappear on the other side of the universe.
/me ducks.
I use cdparanoia, but I'd rather not risk buying a CD I can't use or supporting a stupid copy protection scheme by paying for CDs that use it.
I need to read up on this. Can you suggest a good authoritative book or web site?
Thank you.
I will be using those definitions from now on.
Real people don't read slashdot. Who says I don't talk to real people too?
Or maybe the aliens have been talking to me again?
It's rather noisy in here. Where's my tinfoil helmet. No I will not kill the pope.
Pills.
So you go and make a bunch of typedefs for things to garantee storage is of the required size and then some smarty-pants comes along and says "you mustn't do that. It's not how the language is supposed to be used Blah blah blah blah confusing for other people blah blah blah might introduce bugs blah blah blah why do you think you know better that the people that wrote the compiler"
So you leave and do something where there people aren't a bunch of anally-retentive tossers. Or become a skr1pt k1dd13.
What does it matter how bit size_t is, as long as it's big enough to hold the size of the largets data structure on the system? Shouldn't you be using size_t instead of unsigned? Or is that the point you're trying to make?
There's a lot of snobbery here in the UK (not just England). If people drop their change on the ground, they often won't pick it up for fear of appearing cheap.
People here often go out of their way to buy the most expensive stuff they can because they think it must be better or to show everyone else just how rich and discerning they are.
Like you, I've often had many free snacks from vending machines because people have walked off and left their change. I've also almost managed to fund a night out from picking up the odd pund here and there off the floor...
I've had many useful computer parts from the local rubbish dump.
I'm not a miserable, stingy Scottish git for nothing :-)
Here in the UK, CDs in the big shops cost anything up to £18. That's about US$34 at current exchange rates. I shop at an independent store and I can get most things for about £13-£15 or about $25.
I'm very choosy about what I buy, and only buy 5-10 CDs a year nowadays. I don't download and I don't listen to music radio, since I don't want to hear Britney Spearmint-Gum, Sealion Dijon, Boyz'R'Us and the All-Whingers or whatever there is nowadays.
If CDs cost $15 here (i.e. under £8) I'd be more inclined to buy many more.
My Athlon is x86 does that mean its better then Windows x64... When will micro soft bring out a 86 bits version of Windows to make full use of all the Athlon's
Oh dear :-( I've been spending too much time on Solaris. At least I haven't written much 64-bit code so far.
/me goes off to read about it some more...
So people are annoyed that they can't transfer the files they've paid for, the sound quality isn't that good and sometimes they've paid for something that didn't download properly so they paid to download it again?
More fool them: the consumers and the companies.
I'll stick to buying CDs (but not the Copy Protected ones) by bands I like and going to live shows.
The fundamental problem here is that the music industry wants to get rich off of simplistic, mass-produced music, i.e. the stuff that appeals to young kids with no money.
If they want a healthy, sustainable and profitable business they need to downsize and focus on producing a quality product.
That's not "biased" it's "challenging." It will be a sad day indeed when sycophants rule the world and parody, criticism and skepticism are no more.
That's the way Linux and Solaris and GCC do it too. Unless I'm missing the joke?
That was left as an exercise to the interested reader.
Correction: an alpha of 64-bit windows has been available for both itanium machines for at least 18 months now.
Now, if only someone would lend me an AMD64 machine I'd do that badly-needed Slackware AMD64 port, and I'd do it like Solaris...