Whose best guess? Well, mine, actually. first off, let me ask you this: if your "ribbon" weighs 7.5 kg/km, its radius would be 5 cm. Now, carbon nanofibers arestrong, but i would like to see anybody hanging a space station the end of a 72000 km cable with that with. Furthermore, the deformation of such a ribbon would be incredible. I'm not going to do the math, but if you are interested try to calculate what poissons modulus would have to be, integrated over 72000 km.
By the way, i have read Kim Stanley Robinson, but just as science fiction books do not science make, so do wacko websites not reality make.
Wrong. The elevator would have to be built by a material at least 100 times stronger than hardened steel. This figure is cable-radius-independant.
The current candidate is carbon nanotubes(even though these currently cannot be made longer than 1 mm).
And it wouldn't be a ribbon. This would have to be a big, fat cable to handle the immense forces that gravity and acceleration inflicts over 72000 km.
The best guess currently is 5 m radius. That would give a cable weighing in at the order of 10^13 kg. So its not megatons. Its gigatons. It would by far be the biggest structure ever built.
However, the acceleration outwards from the end of the cable, at one g, could be the most effective launch platform imaginable.
Even if you're right, the reason for this would be because the stars and other sources of neutrinos are spewing them out. And these neutrinos can not be more massive than the stars that generated them. The fact is, neutrinos are EXTREMELY abundant, but they are about as isotropic as the background radiation.
Neutrinos cannot be the dark matter we are talking about here.
The reason is that our problem at hand is within the galaxies: they seem to be spinning much to fast when comparing them to the observable mass. About 90% is missing.
However, since neutrinos are so goddam fast, they aren't "loyal" to any galaxy, and are almost certain to have an equal density, all over the universe. This, of course, means that the resultant gravitational pull will be zero, anywhere you stand.
So neutrinos won't give us an explanation for galactic dark matter, but it helps toward explaining COSMOLOGICAL dark matter, where the subject of gravitational pull is the entire universe.
A photon is an example of a particle with energy, but without mass, and the neutrino could have been related. Also, the somewhat famous equation E=mc^2 , which is a contraction of a bigger formula(which I forget), also predicts that the only particles travelling at the speed of light will be massless ones. It allows for these having energy.
The earth will indeed fall back into balance, after a period. Bad news is, it takes the carbon cycle in the order of 200000 years to make a complete ocean cycle and thus absorb the CO2 that we've spewn out over the last ~100 years.
Actually, over 97% of global carbon dioxide(above the lithosphere) is locked in the oceans...
Don't assume I just pulled this stuff out of my hat!
The conscious experience has absolutely nothing to do with this. What I'm talking about is the subconscious ability to process of experience assimilation, which is an entirely different matter. You may not remember passing a large guy last time you were out shopping, but if you dig deep enough(if, for example, if your life depends on it) you can consciously recall experience you never consciously stored in the first place. But don't take my word on it... ASK a pro about this.
Simply not enough space? How would you know? How would anybody? The BEST theories on the volume of memory suggest that it is gargantuan, perhaps holographic in the sense that complete memories may be reconstructed from fractions if necessery.
Finally, bear in mind that this isn't exactly a scientific discussion, as neuroscientists know a lot about lobes and centers of the large scale brain, and know a lot about simple brain tissue, but next to nothing about the all-important scale in between. That is, how the wet computer in our skulls actually processes information and expands upon it.
So even if you would get a collection of neuropsychs to agree that I'm a pothead, what you're saying is also (empirically) speculation, because no one really knows the big picture.
I disagree. The infant brain is most certainly functional already at birth, and even before.
The brain will not be able to process information the way an adult or grown child will, because it will not have assimilated enough experience to relate one thing to another.
However, it is this very assimilation of experience that causes the brain to evolve into the adult, functional brain. Memory is not the only way this is done, but is definitely an important factor.
There is empirical evidence that the brain stores memories even before birth, and it is the opinion of many professional neuropsychologists that the brain in fact remembers EVERYTHING, but is generally unable to access very early momories, because the ability to order and catalogue these is not fully developed.
Yeah, sorry, I missed the "where i come from" part. But these people weren't just barging in and harrasing people. They had an inside agent, and knew exactly who they were going after, and where he sat. They had a computer expert, a lawyer and 2 police officers with them. (This is all 2nd hand, I wasn't there).
It is my general observation and experience that one thing is saying to yourself what you would be doing in a given situation, another is having to think and act on your feet when this situation actually happens. And though this situation may not seem like the hellish scenario of, for example, combat, imagine being a teenager, deeply immersed in your CS game, when these guys suddenly come barging in. I'm being honest here, 7 or 8 years ago, I certainly wouldn't have had the guts to stand up for my beliefs.
BTW, the kid got off the hook, and the parents are now suing APG for legal fees(one cannot sue for mental anguish in Denmark, which I see as basically a Good Thing).
No. AntiPiratGruppen are a privately funded organization founded by the entertainment industry. The law of imported movies is the government. I'm not really familiar with that, except what i've seen in the news.
You are correct in your analysis of US-Al Qaeda opposition in ideals; Indeed, that is the core of the situation.
However, I AM talking about Bush, and not the US policy, since the parent of this discussion was comparing Bush to Bin Laden.
I am not a politician, nor a political analyst, but I deem myself able to understand the basic principles that makes democracy the best we've got. And one of those principles is that the individual vote is sacred. I'm american, but live in Denmark, and here all votes are counted by hand, since this is the only way to be 100% sure about the outcome. Even the fact that Gore got 200000 votes more than Bush isn't as bad as having a voting system that doesn't count right. And having a doubted outcome fine counted and then aborted isn't the prevention of some sort of War of Succesion, it's just the american judicial system, which I (sorry) find to be deeply corrupted.
It may be a bit ideallistic of you to think that the president doesn't influence US policy. Remember the Clinton Impeachement vote? As far as i recall, there was just a single senator that didn't vote what his party told him to vote(a democrat). That should tell us something about the enormous influence that each body of government and more importantly, each party and their leaders exert over the doings of the US.
However, i concur with most you have to say about the basic validity of the US' actions. Hey, I was actively seeking a tour of duty to Afganistan for this very reason.
The point, maybe, would be that Bush bases his political agenda on private beliefs(religious or economical) and that has great influence on the world, since he is the Chief Executive Officer.
And while the USA IS a pluralistic democratic nation, Bush is neither.
Pluralistic? "The only acceptable intercourse is between married folks."
Democratic? Then why did he get his brother to stop the process of fine counting votes to establish democratic superiority?
So while it IS extreme, and probably even wrongheaded to compare him with a terrorist monster, they are not diagonally opposite in ideals.
As much as I hate being at the risk of this scenario, I'm quite happy with the extremely restrictive weapon laws in Denmark, which cause shooting incidents to be so rare, that when they happen it's always in the major national newspapers the next day. Even for a small nation(5 million), thats pretty good security.
No, the danish way of protecting your privacy has always been to just bitch really loud, like me. Sometimes it works in small countries.
Unfortunately, most of the material available is in danish. However, I found something about it on wired, cdfreaks and infoanarchy. The most important link in danish is here. Siffan, the guy I mentioned in the parent, is working on an english translation of the bust, which happened in september. Currently, AntiPiratGruppen's methods of obtaining evidence are under investigation by the government.
Correction, you've got 50-300 angry, angry, frustrated, confused teenage geeks sitting at their computers, not knowing whether this is lawful or whether they should do anything. Maybe just being scared shitless that they too could be subjected to fines in the order of $$$$$.$$. And yes, the group makes my blood curl, almost as much as Bush.
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... Unfurtunately, I happen to live in Denmark, one of the two. We have a small, private organization going by the name of Anti Pirate Group, who get issued warrants from local judges, and afterwards basically bust into people's homes, rummaging through their computers and CD collection in search of pirate material.
There have been cases where they have denied the owner the right to an attorney, on the grounds that "it would take too long", and other similarly unfair treatment of suspected pirates.
Another case was when they confiscated a computer from a 13-year old attending a LAN party, and then have him, to his great embarrasment, hauled downtown for questioning without attendence of his legal guardian.
A recent competition of their making was hacked, and the email addresses of the participants were signed up on just about every spamlist in existance.
The reason we'll not see a real supersonic (or hypersonic) fleet of airplanes is the stress on the environment it will produce.
It was actually planned for several years ago, but (in a rare exception) the politicians listened to environmental chemists, who predicted that this would cause major damage to the ozone layer, and the project was scrapped. The europeans went ahead and built the concorde anyway.
Frankly, I was pleased to see the Concorde getting in trouble, as I much prefer waiting another 5 hours in the airplane as opposed to statistically cutting away an unknown amount of years from my(and everyone else's) life expectancy.
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Whose best guess? Well, mine, actually. first off, let me ask you this: if your "ribbon" weighs 7.5 kg/km, its radius would be 5 cm. Now, carbon nanofibers arestrong, but i would like to see anybody hanging a space station the end of a 72000 km cable with that with. Furthermore, the deformation of such a ribbon would be incredible. I'm not going to do the math, but if you are interested try to calculate what poissons modulus would have to be, integrated over 72000 km. By the way, i have read Kim Stanley Robinson, but just as science fiction books do not science make, so do wacko websites not reality make.
Wrong.
The elevator would have to be built by a material at least 100 times stronger than hardened steel. This figure is cable-radius-independant.
The current candidate is carbon nanotubes(even though these currently cannot be made longer than 1 mm).
And it wouldn't be a ribbon. This would have to be a big, fat cable to handle the immense forces that gravity and acceleration inflicts over 72000 km.
The best guess currently is 5 m radius. That would give a cable weighing in at the order of 10^13 kg. So its not megatons. Its gigatons. It would by far be the biggest structure ever built.
However, the acceleration outwards from the end of the cable, at one g, could be the most effective launch platform imaginable.
To hell with the sick! I want to know if this can make me immortal!
Even if you're right, the reason for this would be because the stars and other sources of neutrinos are spewing them out. And these neutrinos can not be more massive than the stars that generated them.
The fact is, neutrinos are EXTREMELY abundant, but they are about as isotropic as the background radiation.
Neutrinos cannot be the dark matter we are talking about here.
The reason is that our problem at hand is within the galaxies: they seem to be spinning much to fast when comparing them to the observable mass. About 90% is missing.
However, since neutrinos are so goddam fast, they aren't "loyal" to any galaxy, and are almost certain to have an equal density, all over the universe. This, of course, means that the resultant gravitational pull will be zero, anywhere you stand.
So neutrinos won't give us an explanation for galactic dark matter, but it helps toward explaining COSMOLOGICAL dark matter, where the subject of gravitational pull is the entire universe.
A photon is an example of a particle with energy, but without mass, and the neutrino could have been related. Also, the somewhat famous equation E=mc^2 , which is a contraction of a bigger formula(which I forget), also predicts that the only particles travelling at the speed of light will be massless ones. It allows for these having energy.
The earth will indeed fall back into balance, after a period. Bad news is, it takes the carbon cycle in the order of 200000 years to make a complete ocean cycle and thus absorb the CO2 that we've spewn out over the last ~100 years.
Actually, over 97% of global carbon dioxide(above the lithosphere) is locked in the oceans...
Don't assume I just pulled this stuff out of my hat!
The conscious experience has absolutely nothing to do with this. What I'm talking about is the subconscious ability to process of experience assimilation, which is an entirely different matter. You may not remember passing a large guy last time you were out shopping, but if you dig deep enough(if, for example, if your life depends on it) you can consciously recall experience you never consciously stored in the first place. But don't take my word on it... ASK a pro about this.
Simply not enough space? How would you know? How would anybody? The BEST theories on the volume of memory suggest that it is gargantuan, perhaps holographic in the sense that complete memories may be reconstructed from fractions if necessery.
Finally, bear in mind that this isn't exactly a scientific discussion, as neuroscientists know a lot about lobes and centers of the large scale brain, and know a lot about simple brain tissue, but next to nothing about the all-important scale in between. That is, how the wet computer in our skulls actually processes information and expands upon it.
So even if you would get a collection of neuropsychs to agree that I'm a pothead, what you're saying is also (empirically) speculation, because no one really knows the big picture.
I disagree. The infant brain is most certainly functional already at birth, and even before.
The brain will not be able to process information the way an adult or grown child will, because it will not have assimilated enough experience to relate one thing to another.
However, it is this very assimilation of experience that causes the brain to evolve into the adult, functional brain. Memory is not the only way this is done, but is definitely an important factor.
There is empirical evidence that the brain stores memories even before birth, and it is the opinion of many professional neuropsychologists that the brain in fact remembers EVERYTHING, but is generally unable to access very early momories, because the ability to order and catalogue these is not fully developed.
That story is really sad. That kid should have been sent to Caltech or something like that, not some aircraft carrier, swabbing decks.
Yeah, sorry, I missed the "where i come from" part. But these people weren't just barging in and harrasing people. They had an inside agent, and knew exactly who they were going after, and where he sat. They had a computer expert, a lawyer and 2 police officers with them. (This is all 2nd hand, I wasn't there).
It is my general observation and experience that one thing is saying to yourself what you would be doing in a given situation, another is having to think and act on your feet when this situation actually happens. And though this situation may not seem like the hellish scenario of, for example, combat, imagine being a teenager, deeply immersed in your CS game, when these guys suddenly come barging in. I'm being honest here, 7 or 8 years ago, I certainly wouldn't have had the guts to stand up for my beliefs.
BTW, the kid got off the hook, and the parents are now suing APG for legal fees(one cannot sue for mental anguish in Denmark, which I see as basically a Good Thing).
No. AntiPiratGruppen are a privately funded organization founded by the entertainment industry. The law of imported movies is the government. I'm not really familiar with that, except what i've seen in the news.
You are correct in your analysis of US-Al Qaeda opposition in ideals; Indeed, that is the core of the situation.
However, I AM talking about Bush, and not the US policy, since the parent of this discussion was comparing Bush to Bin Laden.
I am not a politician, nor a political analyst, but I deem myself able to understand the basic principles that makes democracy the best we've got. And one of those principles is that the individual vote is sacred. I'm american, but live in Denmark, and here all votes are counted by hand, since this is the only way to be 100% sure about the outcome. Even the fact that Gore got 200000 votes more than Bush isn't as bad as having a voting system that doesn't count right. And having a doubted outcome fine counted and then aborted isn't the prevention of some sort of War of Succesion, it's just the american judicial system, which I (sorry) find to be deeply corrupted.
It may be a bit ideallistic of you to think that the president doesn't influence US policy. Remember the Clinton Impeachement vote? As far as i recall, there was just a single senator that didn't vote what his party told him to vote(a democrat). That should tell us something about the enormous influence that each body of government and more importantly, each party and their leaders exert over the doings of the US.
However, i concur with most you have to say about the basic validity of the US' actions. Hey, I was actively seeking a tour of duty to Afganistan for this very reason.
The point, maybe, would be that Bush bases his political agenda on private beliefs(religious or economical) and that has great influence on the world, since he is the Chief Executive Officer.
And while the USA IS a pluralistic democratic nation, Bush is neither.
Pluralistic? "The only acceptable intercourse is between married folks."
Democratic? Then why did he get his brother to stop the process of fine counting votes to establish democratic superiority?
So while it IS extreme, and probably even wrongheaded to compare him with a terrorist monster, they are not diagonally opposite in ideals.
Which probably is exactly what Bush wants... A never ending cold war on an enemy not only remote, but formless and without voice.
US citizens have an admirable quality of backing their leader in crisis situations, which he can exploit by basically doing whatever he wants...
Like making a war over oil..
Or calling anybody who disagrees with him a terrorist..
Or screwing the environmental issues(which are bad for business) by giving their much-needed funding to the military..
Yeah, DEFINATELY!!!! Oh, you ment "Bushes" as in the president... nevermind..
An interesting comment from a nation where you can become leader of the "free" world without even getting more votes than your opponent.
The Netherlands... what were they SMOKING?
Hey, they don't smoke crack in the Netherlands!
They smoke weed!
Yeah, like my telescoping totensläger baton...
As much as I hate being at the risk of this scenario, I'm quite happy with the extremely restrictive weapon laws in Denmark, which cause shooting incidents to be so rare, that when they happen it's always in the major national newspapers the next day. Even for a small nation(5 million), thats pretty good security. No, the danish way of protecting your privacy has always been to just bitch really loud, like me. Sometimes it works in small countries.
Unfortunately, most of the material available is in danish. However, I found something about it on wired, cdfreaks and infoanarchy. The most important link in danish is here. Siffan, the guy I mentioned in the parent, is working on an english translation of the bust, which happened in september. Currently, AntiPiratGruppen's methods of obtaining evidence are under investigation by the government.
Correction, you've got 50-300 angry, angry, frustrated, confused teenage geeks sitting at their computers, not knowing whether this is lawful or whether they should do anything. Maybe just being scared shitless that they too could be subjected to fines in the order of $$$$$.$$.
And yes, the group makes my blood curl, almost as much as Bush.
... Unfurtunately, I happen to live in Denmark, one of the two. We have a small, private organization going by the name of Anti Pirate Group, who get issued warrants from local judges, and afterwards basically bust into people's homes, rummaging through their computers and CD collection in search of pirate material.
There have been cases where they have denied the owner the right to an attorney, on the grounds that "it would take too long", and other similarly unfair treatment of suspected pirates.
Another case was when they confiscated a computer from a 13-year old attending a LAN party, and then have him, to his great embarrasment, hauled downtown for questioning without attendence of his legal guardian.
A recent competition of their making was hacked, and the email addresses of the participants were signed up on just about every spamlist in existance.
Can't say I feel much sympathy...
The reason we'll not see a real supersonic (or hypersonic) fleet of airplanes is the stress on the environment it will produce.
It was actually planned for several years ago, but (in a rare exception) the politicians listened to environmental chemists, who predicted that this would cause major damage to the ozone layer, and the project was scrapped. The europeans went ahead and built the concorde anyway.
Frankly, I was pleased to see the Concorde getting in trouble, as I much prefer waiting another 5 hours in the airplane as opposed to statistically cutting away an unknown amount of years from my(and everyone else's) life expectancy.
That is, if I could ever even afford it...