Interesting point. However, back when the imacs were G4's the 15" model had an 800MHz while the powerbooks were at 867-1000. The imac is not a high end competitor, the powerbook is.
HOWEVER
a core duo ibook would compete directly with a powerbook, since the slowest available model for the core is 1.67. The ibook will have a cheaper graphics engine, but a DP 1.67 w/radeon x1300 or Geforce 6200 would still be a bargain at $1299 compared to a Macbook that has other options, but is still a 1.67DP @$1999.
LOOK FOR a 13.3" ibook with a 1.67GHZ solo @ $999 and a 1.67GHz duo for $1299. They have done this to create room for their products coming to market on their aniversary April 1.
What happened to the people who preordered a 1.66GHz for the same price as the 1.83 when they hard launched? Did they get the prototype they ordered or the real deal?
Note to self: never preorder new tech!
My first computer was a used Mac plus my dad got sometime when I was in middle school. It had an external floppy so you could load extra programs once it was booted up. We played shareware games that were probably made in hypercard (RPG style games), I remember using that program in the school computer lab in 7th grade. I didn't do anything with computers for a while, and in 1995 around may my dad bought a 486 DX4-100 system with 16MB of RAM, a 1.275GB hard drive, and 4x CD drive. In 1996 when Diablo was released it wouldn't run without a pentium. Thats when I learned how to build my own computer, and I never looked back. Until I fell in love with Mac's again while studying New Media, and now I own a computer I built myself and a powerbook. I want a new imac and the circle will be complete if I ditch my system.
This reminds me of findings a few years back regarding autoimmune hepatitis, which nearly killed my mom. No causes are known for sure (possibly genetic), but findings show that many times there are isolated XY chromosome cells found in women who had had son's and developed the disease. The theory was that cells from a son could have remained in the system, causing an immune rejection response. Wikipedia on autoimmune hepatitis that all autoimmune disease are 8 times more common in women than men. I wonder how many of the women with such diseases had children whose cells led to an immune response of scuttling the "invasive" tissues?
I always expected a sterling engine rather than steam in this sort of arrangement. It must be ease of implementation that has them going this way, but the temperature differential between exhaust and atmosphere would give you a good bit of sterling power. Oh well, the technology just isn't there yet I suppose.
Let's play a little game. It's called "kill the artis's music". Sounds like fun to me. How about if we have the kids create an album, pour their hearts into their work, and then buy it from them. Then, we'll decide it doesn't fit into our marketing scheme and shelve it. They can't play the songs, they can't print their own copies, their music belongs to us and they can go sit on a street corner and whine about how no one will ever be able to hear what they have created. Then they'll be broke AND not have their music. Or they can put it up for download and make thousands of people happy and be broke. Clearly everybody wins when they give it to us to destroy.
I am in an information ethics course right now, have taken a computer ethics course at Vanderbilt University, and keep up with new technologies and ethical issues. I will not be contributing to the issues that need to be addressed, because as SickBoy pointed out you have to have a great deal of experience in an area to teach it. And while the/. crowd shares most of my opinions on tech ethics in general it is a heavily biased place to get feed back. I mean, you won't even get any comments on the morality of exploitation through monopolizing an industry or the ethical problems that have to be overcome in a purchase of a competitor. I wonder what attendance would be like if these students knew the lesson plan was from this site...
It may seem like an overly exuberant reaction, but it does need some consideration. I am an engineering student at U. Maine. Maine has some of the largest areas of old growth forrest in the nation. Lets face it, there isn't much up here. But still, you have a hard time finding an area where you are more than 10 miles from land inhabited by humans. The proportion is probably much higher up here than most places, but in my opinion it is still far too high. We need to increase our efficiency in use of land and return more stretches to a natural state.
It seems to me the point they make is that they don't want to patch their software. Isn't that the point of the free source community? You can't make a product unbreakable, but if it is broken it gets fixed fast.
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Interesting point. However, back when the imacs were G4's the 15" model had an 800MHz while the powerbooks were at 867-1000. The imac is not a high end competitor, the powerbook is. HOWEVER a core duo ibook would compete directly with a powerbook, since the slowest available model for the core is 1.67. The ibook will have a cheaper graphics engine, but a DP 1.67 w/radeon x1300 or Geforce 6200 would still be a bargain at $1299 compared to a Macbook that has other options, but is still a 1.67DP @$1999. LOOK FOR a 13.3" ibook with a 1.67GHZ solo @ $999 and a 1.67GHz duo for $1299. They have done this to create room for their products coming to market on their aniversary April 1.
What happened to the people who preordered a 1.66GHz for the same price as the 1.83 when they hard launched? Did they get the prototype they ordered or the real deal? Note to self: never preorder new tech!
My first computer was a used Mac plus my dad got sometime when I was in middle school. It had an external floppy so you could load extra programs once it was booted up. We played shareware games that were probably made in hypercard (RPG style games), I remember using that program in the school computer lab in 7th grade. I didn't do anything with computers for a while, and in 1995 around may my dad bought a 486 DX4-100 system with 16MB of RAM, a 1.275GB hard drive, and 4x CD drive. In 1996 when Diablo was released it wouldn't run without a pentium. Thats when I learned how to build my own computer, and I never looked back. Until I fell in love with Mac's again while studying New Media, and now I own a computer I built myself and a powerbook. I want a new imac and the circle will be complete if I ditch my system.
This reminds me of findings a few years back regarding autoimmune hepatitis, which nearly killed my mom. No causes are known for sure (possibly genetic), but findings show that many times there are isolated XY chromosome cells found in women who had had son's and developed the disease. The theory was that cells from a son could have remained in the system, causing an immune rejection response. Wikipedia on autoimmune hepatitis that all autoimmune disease are 8 times more common in women than men. I wonder how many of the women with such diseases had children whose cells led to an immune response of scuttling the "invasive" tissues?
I always expected a sterling engine rather than steam in this sort of arrangement. It must be ease of implementation that has them going this way, but the temperature differential between exhaust and atmosphere would give you a good bit of sterling power. Oh well, the technology just isn't there yet I suppose.
Actually, wouldn't that be a copyright, which lasts much longer so you could keep it basically forever... No more nickname "mickey mouse law"...
Let's play a little game. It's called "kill the artis's music". Sounds like fun to me. How about if we have the kids create an album, pour their hearts into their work, and then buy it from them. Then, we'll decide it doesn't fit into our marketing scheme and shelve it. They can't play the songs, they can't print their own copies, their music belongs to us and they can go sit on a street corner and whine about how no one will ever be able to hear what they have created. Then they'll be broke AND not have their music. Or they can put it up for download and make thousands of people happy and be broke. Clearly everybody wins when they give it to us to destroy.
Macs are awesome, but they cost so much more than a PC I have to stick it out for now
Cool, wire the whole planet baby!
I am in an information ethics course right now, have taken a computer ethics course at Vanderbilt University, and keep up with new technologies and ethical issues. I will not be contributing to the issues that need to be addressed, because as SickBoy pointed out you have to have a great deal of experience in an area to teach it. And while the /. crowd shares most of my opinions on tech ethics in general it is a heavily biased place to get feed back. I mean, you won't even get any comments on the morality of exploitation through monopolizing an industry or the ethical problems that have to be overcome in a purchase of a competitor. I wonder what attendance would be like if these students knew the lesson plan was from this site...
no fair i saw it first }8^)>
Wow, your dick is huge. I only got it fri night. I don't feel like a man anymore
It may seem like an overly exuberant reaction, but it does need some consideration. I am an engineering student at U. Maine. Maine has some of the largest areas of old growth forrest in the nation. Lets face it, there isn't much up here. But still, you have a hard time finding an area where you are more than 10 miles from land inhabited by humans. The proportion is probably much higher up here than most places, but in my opinion it is still far too high. We need to increase our efficiency in use of land and return more stretches to a natural state.
Damn, thats going to make the fishtank case modes look lame. Perhaps a waffle iron in the future as well?
It seems to me the point they make is that they don't want to patch their software. Isn't that the point of the free source community? You can't make a product unbreakable, but if it is broken it gets fixed fast.