Where I used to work (I quit 2 months ago) it was a contant battle to get users to use ssh instead of telnet. Yes, that's right, telnet. When I first started working there, a little over a year ago, I was shocked to discover that thousands (no exageration) of developers were still using telnet to access unix hosts.
When I asked my manager about this, his explanations ranged from "that is how they have always worked" to "some of them just don't know how to use ssh."
When I spoke to the users themselves they just could not understand what is wrong telnet.
Of course, I should point out that this is also a company that suffered a massive data theft (something like 90,000 email addresses) last year...
I am saying that if Red Hat expects OSS projects to sit on security updates until Red Hat has a new package ready, that is just plain rude.
Are all users not equal in the eyes of Free software? We should all be able to have a crack at the security update as soon as it is ready. Some of us do in fact maintain our own packages. Why should we be forced to wait?
Other projects make sure that the vendors know of a security vulnerability, supply the patch and new tarball (if applicable, which it is in mozilla.org's case), give a brief period of time for the vendors to catch up, and then do a synchronous release with them at a planned time.
Ok, I do agree that OSS projects should supply security patches when they have them, and new releases as well, but what good does it do to let the vendors at them first?
Why should end users not be offered the same patches as soon as they are ready? If it takes a vendor 24 hours to get a new package out, that sounds reason able to me, but again, why limit access to the update for that 24 hours?
Yeah, not only that, but Microsoft was far from tiny and unknown at the time. Jobs just mistakenly thought that Gates was his pal.
Gates' only pals are money and power.
That's only ironic if the software that makes the computer run slower is actually intended to make it run faster.
Otherwise it is unfortunate, but not ironic. Please stop the abuse of the word ironic. All it takes is for each one of us to do our part.
The different (sic) is that FUD - fear, uncertainty, doubt - can in fact be grounded in reality
Actually, you are incorrect.
The term FUD was coined by Gene Amdahl, who had left IBM to design and sell competing mainframes. He used the acronym FUD to describe IBMs marketing tactices. Namely that IBM salesmen (sorry ladies, they were all men at the time!) would use various missleading statements to leave a potention customer with Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt about by products from companies other than IBM. Hence the saying "No one ever got fired for buying IBM."
In more recent times FUD is used to describe similiar, missleading statements by Microsoft, such as "Linux costs more to use than Windows."
Bottom line, saying "I will sue you for stealing my code" when one has no grounds to sue, is FUD. Saying, "You will be more vulnerable to viruses if you do not use anti-virus software" is not FUD.
Viola, you've captured their signature and can forge it whenever needed
Actually, no. At least, you can't beat signature recognition devices that way. They look at presure changes, speed, and strokes, none of which are captured by this device.
I don't get it. Didn't you just invalidate your argument?
Well, no. Here is the thing: You don't have to understand how a thermos stays cold to understand what it does. Most people can get their head around "Put a drink in here and it stays cold." Seems the problem here is that there aren't really very good words to explain to people what a TiVo does, because they are so used to what a VCR does.
I find that most people live by assumptions, assumptions that are often false. This is why it is easy to win bar bets.
don't rip someone for not having a clue when you too lack the knowledge:
it wasnt Amiga, it was Commedore Amiga: always was.
Wrong! Amiga, Inc was funded by 3 dentists as a company called Hi-Toro, in 1982. They later changed the name to Amiga... Comodore didn't buy them until 1984, when the designs and prototypes were already well under way.
TiVo will fail because most people cannot understand what it it.
Most people fail to understand that what they see on the TV screen does not control what their VCR records.
Most people do not understand that when they dial the phone, a bunch of computers are digitizing their voice and routing it around, converting back to sound, and playing to the person they called.
Most people do not understand why the refridgerator gets cold inside.
Most people do not understand that modern "Analog" clocks are also digital.
Most people have no idea how a thermus knows when to stay hot and when to stay cold.
Most people in places where snow is uncommon do not understand that it makes the roads slick.
Most people pay for expensive water when it is free at water fountains everywhere.
Most people do not understand that the Coke in the can costs less then the can itself.
Most people don't understand what is wrong with Microsoft software.
Most people don't understand the difference between a surge protector and an outlet strip.
Most people (in the USA) don't vote.
Most people don't understand that silica is not edible.
Most people don't understand that they should not touch hot surfaces.
Most people don't understand that coffee is served hot, unless the word "iced" appears in front of it.
Add to that the fact that the author seems to have no clue as to the history of the Amiga. It wasn't Comodore's vision at all. It was the vision of Amiga, Inc. Comodore bought the Amiga only after the company was cash strapped and hurting. Then they marketed it into the ground.
Giving the impression that Comodore had some grand vision is taking credit away from the true visionaries at Amiga. Also, they didn't design it to be a video editing machine. That was the contribution of a third party company, and came much later.
Nice to see how well researched Slate articles are.
Linadium is a new chip that will be placed in all computers so that they only run code that Linus signs. Linus promisses to only sign code that is totally secure, in this way he will help Microsoft by saving them time and money.
Incedentally, it's pronounced so that the "lin" rhymes with bin, not wine.
I'm so sick and tired of all these companies complaining about not making enough money. A big part of the problem is the fat. You know, the middle men. The article mentions MindShare "a company the buys TV ads for companies" I'm sure they don't do this for free. Maybe instead of coming up with new and better ways to anoy me, all these companies could cut a little fat and make more with what they've got. Here's a redical idea, sell a product on it's merits, not on how many times you can jam it's image down my throat.
This is just another example of the Enron syndrome. Bloated business space scrambling to find ways to justify themselves. Enough already.
As other posters have pointed out, if you have a car, the government has all your details on file. If you buy fuel with a credit or debit card, that is on file, also.
Think about this... In the USA, the police generally do NOT need a search warrent to search your car. All they need to do is think that you have something going on in there. In addition, many intersections in the USA snap pictures of the cars going by to catch speeders and those running red lights. Do you think those cameras are blind the rest of the time? How about the cameras that are used to view highway conditions. In some states they run all over the highways.
Hey, a car is a technical thing. When will people realize that they need years of training to be able to drive down the street. When was the last time you saw a +1000 page manual for a car?
Ok troll, first off, ever noticed that you are expected to take drivers ed and trainging before you get to drive. Even then, you have to prove your skills to get a liscense. It seems also, that you have never read a shop manual for a car.
A car is a technical thing, and it only does one task: driving. A computer does a lot of things, so of course you need more training. Maybe people should have to prove their skills and get a computer liscense before they are allowed to operate one. That follows your logic.
It is far from their job to know how to do anything. From what I have seen. I could set them up with a fully configured KDE3 desktop with all their applications right in front of them and they would still have the same problems.
How is this different in any OS?
I'm so tired of people saying, "It's not his job to know how to use the computer, he's a marketing guru!"
The computer is just another tool he needs to learn to do his job. I don't mean learn how to setup and troubleshoot and such, but please, if the icons and right in front of you, and you have to be walked through everything on a daily basis, how effective can you be at whatever else it is that you do?
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I love ssh. I use it everyday.
Where I used to work (I quit 2 months ago) it was a contant battle to get users to use ssh instead of telnet. Yes, that's right, telnet. When I first started working there, a little over a year ago, I was shocked to discover that thousands (no exageration) of developers were still using telnet to access unix hosts.
When I asked my manager about this, his explanations ranged from "that is how they have always worked" to "some of them just don't know how to use ssh."
When I spoke to the users themselves they just could not understand what is wrong telnet.
Of course, I should point out that this is also a company that suffered a massive data theft (something like 90,000 email addresses) last year...
I am saying that if Red Hat expects OSS projects to sit on security updates until Red Hat has a new package ready, that is just plain rude.
Are all users not equal in the eyes of Free software? We should all be able to have a crack at the security update as soon as it is ready. Some of us do in fact maintain our own packages. Why should we be forced to wait?
Ok, I do agree that OSS projects should supply security patches when they have them, and new releases as well, but what good does it do to let the vendors at them first?
Why should end users not be offered the same patches as soon as they are ready? If it takes a vendor 24 hours to get a new package out, that sounds reason able to me, but again, why limit access to the update for that 24 hours?
And to think, his original name was PuckMan.
Yeah, not only that, but Microsoft was far from tiny and unknown at the time. Jobs just mistakenly thought that Gates was his pal. Gates' only pals are money and power.
That's only ironic if the software that makes the computer run slower is actually intended to make it run faster. Otherwise it is unfortunate, but not ironic. Please stop the abuse of the word ironic. All it takes is for each one of us to do our part.
This thing is overpriced and stupid. Of course teenagers will want it. I weep for the future.
Actually, you are incorrect.
The term FUD was coined by Gene Amdahl, who had left IBM to design and sell competing mainframes. He used the acronym FUD to describe IBMs marketing tactices. Namely that IBM salesmen (sorry ladies, they were all men at the time!) would use various missleading statements to leave a potention customer with Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt about by products from companies other than IBM. Hence the saying "No one ever got fired for buying IBM."
In more recent times FUD is used to describe similiar, missleading statements by Microsoft, such as "Linux costs more to use than Windows."
Bottom line, saying "I will sue you for stealing my code" when one has no grounds to sue, is FUD. Saying, "You will be more vulnerable to viruses if you do not use anti-virus software" is not FUD.
Son of a bitch! Now my ex is a moderator...
My fat ass ex takes up a shitload of space.
Actually, no. At least, you can't beat signature recognition devices that way. They look at presure changes, speed, and strokes, none of which are captured by this device.
The .NET framework is necessary for some of the functions of the Logitech io Software.
What the?!
Well, no. Here is the thing: You don't have to understand how a thermos stays cold to understand what it does. Most people can get their head around "Put a drink in here and it stays cold." Seems the problem here is that there aren't really very good words to explain to people what a TiVo does, because they are so used to what a VCR does.
I find that most people live by assumptions, assumptions that are often false. This is why it is easy to win bar bets.
it wasnt Amiga, it was Commedore Amiga: always was.
Wrong! Amiga, Inc was funded by 3 dentists as a company called Hi-Toro, in 1982. They later changed the name to Amiga... Comodore didn't buy them until 1984, when the designs and prototypes were already well under way.
Try reading a little history.
Perhaps you should take your own advice...
TiVo will fail because most people cannot understand what it it.
Most people fail to understand that what they see on the TV screen does not control what their VCR records.
Most people do not understand that when they dial the phone, a bunch of computers are digitizing their voice and routing it around, converting back to sound, and playing to the person they called.
Most people do not understand why the refridgerator gets cold inside.
Most people do not understand that modern "Analog" clocks are also digital.
Most people have no idea how a thermus knows when to stay hot and when to stay cold.
Most people in places where snow is uncommon do not understand that it makes the roads slick.
Most people pay for expensive water when it is free at water fountains everywhere.
Most people do not understand that the Coke in the can costs less then the can itself.
Most people don't understand what is wrong with Microsoft software.
Most people don't understand the difference between a surge protector and an outlet strip.
Most people (in the USA) don't vote.
Most people don't understand that silica is not edible.
Most people don't understand that they should not touch hot surfaces.
Most people don't understand that coffee is served hot, unless the word "iced" appears in front of it.
Most people don't understand the game of chess.
Giving the impression that Comodore had some grand vision is taking credit away from the true visionaries at Amiga. Also, they didn't design it to be a video editing machine. That was the contribution of a third party company, and came much later.
Nice to see how well researched Slate articles are.
Linadium is a new chip that will be placed in all computers so that they only run code that Linus signs. Linus promisses to only sign code that is totally secure, in this way he will help Microsoft by saving them time and money.
Incedentally, it's pronounced so that the "lin" rhymes with bin, not wine.
I'm so sick and tired of all these companies complaining about not making enough money. A big part of the problem is the fat. You know, the middle men. The article mentions MindShare "a company the buys TV ads for companies" I'm sure they don't do this for free. Maybe instead of coming up with new and better ways to anoy me, all these companies could cut a little fat and make more with what they've got. Here's a redical idea, sell a product on it's merits, not on how many times you can jam it's image down my throat.
This is just another example of the Enron syndrome. Bloated business space scrambling to find ways to justify themselves. Enough already.
As other posters have pointed out, if you have a car, the government has all your details on file. If you buy fuel with a credit or debit card, that is on file, also.
Think about this... In the USA, the police generally do NOT need a search warrent to search your car. All they need to do is think that you have something going on in there. In addition, many intersections in the USA snap pictures of the cars going by to catch speeders and those running red lights. Do you think those cameras are blind the rest of the time? How about the cameras that are used to view highway conditions. In some states they run all over the highways.
Sheesh, haven't any of you moderators seen a recent Yoplay (sp) commercials? Not Flamebait, but in fact a joke.
Yeah, mac cases are inter-racial-lesbian-road-trip good!
Hey, a car is a technical thing. When will people realize that they need years of training to be able to drive down the street. When was the last time you saw a +1000 page manual for a car?
Ok troll, first off, ever noticed that you are expected to take drivers ed and trainging before you get to drive. Even then, you have to prove your skills to get a liscense. It seems also, that you have never read a shop manual for a car.
A car is a technical thing, and it only does one task: driving. A computer does a lot of things, so of course you need more training. Maybe people should have to prove their skills and get a computer liscense before they are allowed to operate one. That follows your logic.
Good work!
Garage: Like house, but faster, and with jungle sounds. Characterized by fast, catchy bass grooves.It is far from their job to know how to do anything. From what I have seen. I could set them up with a fully configured KDE3 desktop with all their applications right in front of them and they would still have the same problems.
How is this different in any OS?
I'm so tired of people saying, "It's not his job to know how to use the computer, he's a marketing guru!"
The computer is just another tool he needs to learn to do his job. I don't mean learn how to setup and troubleshoot and such, but please, if the icons and right in front of you, and you have to be walked through everything on a daily basis, how effective can you be at whatever else it is that you do?
You are so two years ago!