This is my favorite pet theory for some type of nuclear war. Some islamic crackpot will get a hold a small nuke. They will set it off some place in Israel taking out a small city. Israel will just say "fuck it" and nuke someone, don't matter if they had something to do with it or not. All of a sudden its arabs vs jews in the grudge match to end all of them. Nukes flying and everyone over there dying.
Or that is what I hope happens. I hope that when them crazy fuckers over there decide o kill each other off the US, Russia, and China all just say "Fuck it. You fruits have been aching for this for 2,000 years. Have at it."
The US and USSR may have been questionably sane when they made 10,000+ bombs but we weren't so nuts we start using them. Some of them islamic fuckers are not so sane. They won't think of nothing of killing themselves, a small city, or the whole fucking planet if it gets them into their version of paradise.
Good point. We should just bury this mess and forget it ever happened.
I've heard lots of things about the Richard Hatch's trailer but I refuse to watch it. I don't think I could handle what could have been over what we have. I've walked away from the series a few times only to get drug back into because one of the trailers looked good. Only to find out the trailer was the best thing about that episode.
It's like watching a couple of passenger trains collide in slow motion. The first impact is awesome then the guts and gore start to fly. We know how its going to end, in tragedy, but we can't take our eyes off it because we want to see how it ends.
Ya, because stealing copper should be punished by death
No, but I think we all agree that if your own stupidity gets you killed then you had it coming. In this case these dumbasses decided to steal something they had no idea what it was for. Didn't even bother to test if it was live. Didn't even think it was powering the subway.
So I'm going to rule that they where killed by their own stupidity and call "they had it coming." Any objections?
I heard a story awhile back about a couple of copper thieves that got what they had coming. Seems these two where fresh off the boat from Somalia or some other 3rd world hell hole. They decided the best way to earn a living was to ply the same trade here as they did there.
So they slipped over a fence one night to steal some big ass copper bars. They where to stupid to notice the train tracks next door. The copper bars where feed lines to the subway 3rd rail. They say that when the bodies where collected the current exiting had actually blown the feet off at the ankles. The shoes that the feet where in where still in fine condition.
I can't verify if this story is true or not so I really doubt it happened but when copper theft comes up I always remember it.
Then the rescue off new caprica where I think the most awesome cut scene in the bloody history of scifi/drama has ever happened, and then
I know the scene. Your talking about where the Galactica jumped in to the atmosphere, fell like a fucking rock while launching vipers, then jumped back out before it hit the ground. God damn that was sweet. WTF happened?
If I want drama and space with out space ships I'll watch reruns of the first few seasons of SG-1. At least you could count on Jack Oneal to fire off something funny every now and then. "For the record I voted we blow it up."
I wouldn't mind watching a remake of Buck Rogers. Just with less disco and no roller skates. Maybe be a little more like the original newspaper series too.
And, if The Register and its headline on this story can be believed, without spaceships either.
And no hawt skinjob Cylons either. Why, exactly, would I watch this?
I totally agree. Really, who cares what happened 50 years before the current series? Back biting and family bullshit is why I stopped watching BSG. I want to see space ships, hints of 13th tribe, and cylons getting their ass kicked. I don't care if Tye drunk off his ass 90% of the time, apollo is fucking starbuck or his old man. And I really really don't give a rats ass about baltars love cult.
More spaceships, more ass kicking, and more story about earth. Fuck the rest.
Now if they did a series about the first cylon war, that might be worth my time.
but "no-one would care" is a fucking stupid argument.
You may think it's fucking stupid but that doesn't make it any less true. Truth is sometimes hard to swallow but facts are if the British sent commands in today nobody would send troops or challenge the British in any real way. That sounds to me like nobody cars.
Real world example. Tibet. Before China decide that it wasn't any longer Tibet was a sovereign nation. In went the Chinese; out with the Lama. Tibet was a nation no more. Sure there was some protests and some bitch'n and a moaning from the hippy crowd. Lots of free tibet bumperstickers where sold but nobody is sending in the troops. There are no boots on the ground or tanks and planes trying to free tibet.
Reason? Nobody gives a shit about tibet. Hell the US, who should be bitch'n the loudest, has a billion (trillon?) dollar trade surplus with China. And I know that if no one gives a rats ass about tibet, sure as hell nobody is going give a shit and piss about sealand.
Honestly? Who gives a shit what the Russians where thinking? Georgia and sealand have nothing in common. Georgia is a chunk of ground clammed by people and has a somewhat government with international recognition on some fronts.
Sealand is a gun platform from WWII clammed by a bunch of crackpots and clamming it as a nation. Other than the loons and the birds living there they have no population, no formal government, and no standing army or currency that is worth a damn. I admit that I thought is was a novel idea when I read about it but no one takes it seriously. Sealand isn't recognized by any country as a real country. So to say, by international law, it doesn't fucking exist.
Shit, come to think of it I wonder how that platform is holding up. Fifty years at sea an that fucker has to be showing some signs of wear. I wonder how much longer before Britain evicts the squatters and declares it a public nuance.
Very doubtful that any one would really care beyond the academia and geek circles. Most of the world regards sealand as just a bunch of crack pots on a abandoned oil derrick. Never mind it wasn't abandoned and its not a oil derrick. If some point couldn't be made about it, it would be on page 6 of the paper right next to an add for toilet paper.
Look at the incidences in the US in the past 20 years of ruby ridge and david koresh in texas. Yeah, I misspelled it and I don't care. There where some serous legal issues involved how that was handled but since the public at large though they where all loons nobody really cared. Sad, maybe, but that is how it is.
Sealand is no more an independent nation than my asshole is. Seriously, if the British took it out it would be no more than a blip on the road, if that. I doubt any but a few geeks would bitch or care.
The only reason that it hasn't happened already is he hasn't done anything worth the effort. I imagine the official British stance is he is just some nutter setting on a platform calming to be his own nation. Yeah, whatever. Truly, nobody really cares.
Very simply, I don't because they don't exist. There are groups of delusional youths running sucking blood calling themselves vampires but they are no more vampires than I am.
Will machines have souls, and do souls exist? Those are both unprovable ideas. The better question would be will machines ever have the moral and ethical guidance of a soul?
Conclusion: anti-matter bombs are not cost effective compared to nukes, and are unlikely to ever become so, unless we find a natural source of anti-matter
Cost effectiveness and military thinking often do not go hand in hand. Bring up the Manhattan project, it cost just over 2 billion dollars in 1945 to develop the A-Bomb. That was a lot of freaking dough in 1945. Now one can argue that it would have been more cost effective to put that money in better aircraft and incendiary weapons and simply burn Japan to the ground. No, the army wanted its big bomb and got it.
Same thing applies to antimatter weapons. That and there are other thing to think about with antimatter bombs. Their effectiveness and the ease at which they can be used. The smallest effective nuke, about 3kt, fits in a backpack and probably would weigh a 100 kg after shielding is added. Harder to sneak something like that past a border guard. With out the shielding it would be smaller and lighter but then there is detection from radiation leakage.
A antimatter weapon of several times the destructive power would fit in a fedex envelope. Would require no radiation shielding. Deployment could be as simple as mailing it to a target. Now this is only possible if containment devices can be gotten that small. I'm sure they can because there is no law of physics stating they can't. There is a law of physics stating how small a nuke can be.
Of course you don't have to ship a nuke in, in a backpack. You just shoot it from a missile or drop it from a plane. But all these methods can be detected and traced back to the source. Plane and missile have to come from somewhere.
There are many benefits to antimatter weapons to the right parties would offset their costs. One more thing your assuming that we can't come up with a cheap way to make antimatter. The same assumptions where made about the atomic bomb back before 1945. We know how wrong those where.
ve always thought the Cold War was more of a media thing than anything else
And you would be wrong. The Cold War was very much real. There was a number of time we came very close to nuclear extinction. One of my earliest memories of school happened in kindergarten. They where doing a nuclear attack drill, setting off the sirens, and getting the civil defense going and shit like that. They told us to get under our desks and put our books over our heads. Like that shit was going to help. One of the things that is burned into my memory while hiding there was the sound of the little girl behind me crying.
While the threat of nuclear annihilation is greatly diminished, the risk of nuclear war has increased. The US and Russia still have massive stock piles of aging weapons but its doubtful that we will use them in a full exchange. The threat of nuclear war on a limited scale is still there.
When a terrorist organization was to get a hold of a nuclear weapon they won't have as many qualms about using it. I say when because it is only a matter of time before one does. What will happen then? US policy has always been total retaliation with nuclear weapons if attacked with them. What will happen when a US city goes up under a terrorist mushroom cloud?
Time until US military develop this into a weapon?
That is the first question that I though of. Is it cheaper to produce antimatter this way instead of the standard. With a large ass atom smasher. The air force has already stated that it is interested in a antimatter weapon.
Never fails to amaze me how stupid people can actually be. People don't realize how dangerous a antimatter bomb would be. Antimatter weapons are not like nukes. Nukes can't go off on their own. They require a trigger. A antimatter weapon can. Just the slightest change in energy level or failure in the containment.
Take the there types of weapons, fission, fusion, and annihilation. Named after their core detonation processes. And put them in a field with no maintenance. On their own the fission and fusion weapons will fail but will never go off. Eventually both bombs will be inert and completely harmless.
But the antimatter weapons will eventually go off 100% of the time when the containment eventuality fails. Messing with these weapons is simply fucking insane.
The laws of physics forbid the conversion of normal matter into antimatter
Can you quote what law forbids this? I don't doubt you but my brain is vacationing in Bermudan this week, sent me a post card and everything "Glad your not here.." Anyway I'm just a little fuzzy today.
So what if they can identify the make and model of camera. I own a D70. There are 300 billion d70 out there. Good luck on tracking a picture to my camera.
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Even actually been to the middle east ?
This is my favorite pet theory for some type of nuclear war. Some islamic crackpot will get a hold a small nuke. They will set it off some place in Israel taking out a small city. Israel will just say "fuck it" and nuke someone, don't matter if they had something to do with it or not. All of a sudden its arabs vs jews in the grudge match to end all of them. Nukes flying and everyone over there dying.
Or that is what I hope happens. I hope that when them crazy fuckers over there decide o kill each other off the US, Russia, and China all just say "Fuck it. You fruits have been aching for this for 2,000 years. Have at it."
The US and USSR may have been questionably sane when they made 10,000+ bombs but we weren't so nuts we start using them. Some of them islamic fuckers are not so sane. They won't think of nothing of killing themselves, a small city, or the whole fucking planet if it gets them into their version of paradise.
You wouldn't have a link to that would you? I could use a good laugh.
Good point. We should just bury this mess and forget it ever happened.
I've heard lots of things about the Richard Hatch's trailer but I refuse to watch it. I don't think I could handle what could have been over what we have. I've walked away from the series a few times only to get drug back into because one of the trailers looked good. Only to find out the trailer was the best thing about that episode.
It's like watching a couple of passenger trains collide in slow motion. The first impact is awesome then the guts and gore start to fly. We know how its going to end, in tragedy, but we can't take our eyes off it because we want to see how it ends.
Ya, because stealing copper should be punished by death
No, but I think we all agree that if your own stupidity gets you killed then you had it coming. In this case these dumbasses decided to steal something they had no idea what it was for. Didn't even bother to test if it was live. Didn't even think it was powering the subway.
So I'm going to rule that they where killed by their own stupidity and call "they had it coming." Any objections?
I heard a story awhile back about a couple of copper thieves that got what they had coming. Seems these two where fresh off the boat from Somalia or some other 3rd world hell hole. They decided the best way to earn a living was to ply the same trade here as they did there.
So they slipped over a fence one night to steal some big ass copper bars. They where to stupid to notice the train tracks next door. The copper bars where feed lines to the subway 3rd rail. They say that when the bodies where collected the current exiting had actually blown the feet off at the ankles. The shoes that the feet where in where still in fine condition.
I can't verify if this story is true or not so I really doubt it happened but when copper theft comes up I always remember it.
a swear word. It doesn't take much to figure out what frak or frell mean. Now feltercarb. That takes a little imagination.
I got called into the principals office the other day to discuss my kids use of the word "frell" all the time.
Then the rescue off new caprica where I think the most awesome cut scene in the bloody history of scifi/drama has ever happened, and then
I know the scene. Your talking about where the Galactica jumped in to the atmosphere, fell like a fucking rock while launching vipers, then jumped back out before it hit the ground. God damn that was sweet. WTF happened?
If I want drama and space with out space ships I'll watch reruns of the first few seasons of SG-1. At least you could count on Jack Oneal to fire off something funny every now and then. "For the record I voted we blow it up."
I wouldn't mind watching a remake of Buck Rogers. Just with less disco and no roller skates. Maybe be a little more like the original newspaper series too.
And, if The Register and its headline on this story can be believed, without spaceships either. And no hawt skinjob Cylons either. Why, exactly, would I watch this?
I totally agree. Really, who cares what happened 50 years before the current series? Back biting and family bullshit is why I stopped watching BSG. I want to see space ships, hints of 13th tribe, and cylons getting their ass kicked. I don't care if Tye drunk off his ass 90% of the time, apollo is fucking starbuck or his old man. And I really really don't give a rats ass about baltars love cult.
More spaceships, more ass kicking, and more story about earth. Fuck the rest.
Now if they did a series about the first cylon war, that might be worth my time.
Yeah, okay, whatever. If you and they want to believe that more power to you. Who really gives a shit?
Horse Hockey. Its just recognized that its outside jurisdiction. Not that it is a sovereign nation.
In order. Yes they can. Not it sin't. Yes they can. No it wouldn't.
but "no-one would care" is a fucking stupid argument.
You may think it's fucking stupid but that doesn't make it any less true. Truth is sometimes hard to swallow but facts are if the British sent commands in today nobody would send troops or challenge the British in any real way. That sounds to me like nobody cars.
Real world example. Tibet. Before China decide that it wasn't any longer Tibet was a sovereign nation. In went the Chinese; out with the Lama. Tibet was a nation no more. Sure there was some protests and some bitch'n and a moaning from the hippy crowd. Lots of free tibet bumperstickers where sold but nobody is sending in the troops. There are no boots on the ground or tanks and planes trying to free tibet.
Reason? Nobody gives a shit about tibet. Hell the US, who should be bitch'n the loudest, has a billion (trillon?) dollar trade surplus with China. And I know that if no one gives a rats ass about tibet, sure as hell nobody is going give a shit and piss about sealand.
Reality sucks sometimes.
Honestly? Who gives a shit what the Russians where thinking? Georgia and sealand have nothing in common. Georgia is a chunk of ground clammed by people and has a somewhat government with international recognition on some fronts.
Sealand is a gun platform from WWII clammed by a bunch of crackpots and clamming it as a nation. Other than the loons and the birds living there they have no population, no formal government, and no standing army or currency that is worth a damn. I admit that I thought is was a novel idea when I read about it but no one takes it seriously. Sealand isn't recognized by any country as a real country. So to say, by international law, it doesn't fucking exist.
Shit, come to think of it I wonder how that platform is holding up. Fifty years at sea an that fucker has to be showing some signs of wear. I wonder how much longer before Britain evicts the squatters and declares it a public nuance.
Very doubtful that any one would really care beyond the academia and geek circles. Most of the world regards sealand as just a bunch of crack pots on a abandoned oil derrick. Never mind it wasn't abandoned and its not a oil derrick. If some point couldn't be made about it, it would be on page 6 of the paper right next to an add for toilet paper.
Look at the incidences in the US in the past 20 years of ruby ridge and david koresh in texas. Yeah, I misspelled it and I don't care. There where some serous legal issues involved how that was handled but since the public at large though they where all loons nobody really cared. Sad, maybe, but that is how it is.
Sealand is no more an independent nation than my asshole is. Seriously, if the British took it out it would be no more than a blip on the road, if that. I doubt any but a few geeks would bitch or care.
The only reason that it hasn't happened already is he hasn't done anything worth the effort. I imagine the official British stance is he is just some nutter setting on a platform calming to be his own nation. Yeah, whatever. Truly, nobody really cares.
Vampires and demons and other nasties?
Very simply, I don't because they don't exist. There are groups of delusional youths running sucking blood calling themselves vampires but they are no more vampires than I am.
Will machines have souls, and do souls exist? Those are both unprovable ideas. The better question would be will machines ever have the moral and ethical guidance of a soul?
Just to set the record straight Nibbler shits DarkMatter, not Antimatter. WTF the difference is in this case I have no clue.
Conclusion: anti-matter bombs are not cost effective compared to nukes, and are unlikely to ever become so, unless we find a natural source of anti-matter
Cost effectiveness and military thinking often do not go hand in hand. Bring up the Manhattan project, it cost just over 2 billion dollars in 1945 to develop the A-Bomb. That was a lot of freaking dough in 1945. Now one can argue that it would have been more cost effective to put that money in better aircraft and incendiary weapons and simply burn Japan to the ground. No, the army wanted its big bomb and got it.
Same thing applies to antimatter weapons. That and there are other thing to think about with antimatter bombs. Their effectiveness and the ease at which they can be used. The smallest effective nuke, about 3kt, fits in a backpack and probably would weigh a 100 kg after shielding is added. Harder to sneak something like that past a border guard. With out the shielding it would be smaller and lighter but then there is detection from radiation leakage.
A antimatter weapon of several times the destructive power would fit in a fedex envelope. Would require no radiation shielding. Deployment could be as simple as mailing it to a target. Now this is only possible if containment devices can be gotten that small. I'm sure they can because there is no law of physics stating they can't. There is a law of physics stating how small a nuke can be.
Of course you don't have to ship a nuke in, in a backpack. You just shoot it from a missile or drop it from a plane. But all these methods can be detected and traced back to the source. Plane and missile have to come from somewhere.
There are many benefits to antimatter weapons to the right parties would offset their costs. One more thing your assuming that we can't come up with a cheap way to make antimatter. The same assumptions where made about the atomic bomb back before 1945. We know how wrong those where.
ve always thought the Cold War was more of a media thing than anything else
And you would be wrong. The Cold War was very much real. There was a number of time we came very close to nuclear extinction. One of my earliest memories of school happened in kindergarten. They where doing a nuclear attack drill, setting off the sirens, and getting the civil defense going and shit like that. They told us to get under our desks and put our books over our heads. Like that shit was going to help. One of the things that is burned into my memory while hiding there was the sound of the little girl behind me crying.
While the threat of nuclear annihilation is greatly diminished, the risk of nuclear war has increased. The US and Russia still have massive stock piles of aging weapons but its doubtful that we will use them in a full exchange. The threat of nuclear war on a limited scale is still there.
When a terrorist organization was to get a hold of a nuclear weapon they won't have as many qualms about using it. I say when because it is only a matter of time before one does. What will happen then? US policy has always been total retaliation with nuclear weapons if attacked with them. What will happen when a US city goes up under a terrorist mushroom cloud?
Time until US military develop this into a weapon?
That is the first question that I though of. Is it cheaper to produce antimatter this way instead of the standard. With a large ass atom smasher. The air force has already stated that it is interested in a antimatter weapon.
Never fails to amaze me how stupid people can actually be. People don't realize how dangerous a antimatter bomb would be. Antimatter weapons are not like nukes. Nukes can't go off on their own. They require a trigger. A antimatter weapon can. Just the slightest change in energy level or failure in the containment.
Take the there types of weapons, fission, fusion, and annihilation. Named after their core detonation processes. And put them in a field with no maintenance. On their own the fission and fusion weapons will fail but will never go off. Eventually both bombs will be inert and completely harmless.
But the antimatter weapons will eventually go off 100% of the time when the containment eventuality fails. Messing with these weapons is simply fucking insane.
The laws of physics forbid the conversion of normal matter into antimatter
Can you quote what law forbids this? I don't doubt you but my brain is vacationing in Bermudan this week, sent me a post card and everything "Glad your not here.." Anyway I'm just a little fuzzy today.
So what if they can identify the make and model of camera. I own a D70. There are 300 billion d70 out there. Good luck on tracking a picture to my camera.
Clearly one of us (if not both) is completely insane, and needs the help
Well I'm convinced that someone around here is ether insane or on crack. +4,Insightful? Yes, someone is definitely on crack....