I imagine that volume for everything but the binaris groups is halving now instead of doubling. I used to keep few dozen groups on a 10 mb partition on my old Amiga 500 back in the '80.
When I started on Usenet, right after the flood waters receded, you had to know someone to get a feed from them. I used to get my daily usenet fix over a 2400 bps modem to an amiga 500 running dnews 1.13, I think. I was a collaborative effort.
Maybe in the future usenet can be reborn but with in a closed system again. You have to know someone to get a feed from.
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Google groups is a pain in the ass to use. They are great when I'm researching something or just wanting to take trip down memory lane. Take a trip through comp.sys.amiga.* and remember what the big deal was about.
But compared to a full function news reader with thread control and kill files, it's a poor imitation.
I've heard of grabit. I searched long and hard for a usenet "harvester" program. The one I settled on was called usenet explorer. I really don't do much "strip mining" of usenet anymore. So Xnews works nicely.
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www.usenet-access.com. They are 6 bucks a month and you get 2 GB per day. An unholy shitload of groups with the retention from hell. I've been able to snag stuff going back almost 2 years. I know they are a reseller for someone, I just don't know who. I've been using them for almost 6 years and never had issues with them at all.
Possible issues are, well 2 Gb per day but hell that an average of 60 GB per month. And you can only have 3 simultaneous connections but hell they are only 6 bucks a month.
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Not when the quality of the comment is to land a +5, Funny.
I felt awkward at first till I got to the parts about my boy. Then I stopped giving a damn about her privacy. It was a good thing too. I was going to agree to giving her partial custody and unsupervised visitation rights. I gave them to my lawyer, then he showed them to the judge. I got full custody and a restraining order.
I still find it kind of funny that she stole the wrong damn computer. If they would have bothered to turn it on and read the display it would have requested the host be on for it to boot. I still wonder why they didn't just take both of them. They had the time. They took my swords, bow, 400+ cds, the stereo, and emptied out the freezer.
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Holy Shit! Usenet is dead. For some reason my Xnews, open right now, seems to not have noticed.
Death Of Usenet has been predicted since its birth. Nothing to see here.
Screw that. It maybe their network but I have issues with them plastering signs up saying unlimited internet 60 bucks a month. Then sneaking in some shit in the contract written in flyspeck 3.
My story. I almost signed up for this 3G bullshit from AT&T. I asked the sales monkey what unlimited meant. He said it meant I could do anything with no limits, just what it said. I played 20 questions. I ask him could I watch unlimited video over it. He said yes, no limit. I ask him about running VPN on it 24/7. Same answer. I stated that I sometimes use bittorrent to download openSuse DVD iso, 4.5 GB. He nodded and said no problem.
So the fucker lied didn't he? He said to me point blank I could use p2p over the network but the contract woudl state I can't? This is the BS I have issues with. In the end I didn't get the service. Something about the way the sales monkey smiled.
Yeap, there it is, that magic word unlimited. I'm starting to think these isp have a different dictionary than the rest of us. One where the definition of unlimited changes to suit what they want it too. How building a bittorrent network that uses port 80 with encrypted data? Then when they cut you off for using p2p maybe you can sue them for breach of contract.
Well it all depends on how you use it. Back when I was married to The Bitch we had one master computer running linux that we both used. Sharing time on it was a bitch because I used it for work, and she used it for play. To solve this issue I rounded up a old '486, a 20 MB HD, and a 15" display. Piece of crap. I installed a very slimmed down linux, just enough to boot and connect the X server to central host.
She had her play computer and I had a work computer and everything was fine.
Actually there is was a interesting turn on that set up. After we separated her and some of her cult buddies broke in to my house and stole that X terminal I made her. I found out through a friend that they did that because they didn't me reading the email she left on "it" or having access to her icq logs. I found it very amusing that she had stole the wrong computer.
And if you wondering. Yes, I did look through the icq logs and email. I did show them to the judge and use them in court. I found out her nuttiness was more nutty then I ever imagined. I found out she had been abusing my son and what she had planed. So if your going to bitch about her privacy or some such BS, save it.
Those restore the crap disks are almost useless. They rely on there being a recover partition on the HD to work. Kind of SOL if its your HD that takes off south.
Consumer grade computers are mostly the problem with crapware. I wouldn't say that Dell is not guilty of it ether. On Dell's business class machines like the laptop I use came clean with no crapware. But my niece's Dell came preloaded with shit that made it almost unusable. It was one of those 500 buck dells, single core 1.6Ghz, 1GB of ram, cheaply made. Totally unusable for a professional machine but prefect for a 16 year old that needed a cheap laptop to do her school work on.
It ran like a dog out of the box. I "decrapafied" it by removing all the useless toolbars and shit that came preloaded on it. Tuned the OS, installed more recent drivers, and replaced the 4200 rpm HD with a 5400. It's not the fastest laptop in the world now but meets my minimum standards for being usable.
So over a year later, I got a new desktop machine at work. Athlon 64 3800+, 2Gb RAM, SATA drive. For giggles, I let it boot up into Vista. It was something like 20 to 30 minutes to get to the desktop, since it was a first boot. From there it was still dog slow. I had my Athlon 2400+ with 1Gb RAM running XP sitting beside it, and the performance difference was really sad.
I'm going to call BullShit on this! I loaded vista enterprise on an old Athlon64 3500 with 1GB and SATA drives to see what kind of HTPC I could make out of it. I noticed no abnormal boot time. I didn't time it but it was up by the time I got back from taking a piss. About 2 to 3 minutes. I didn't make an acceptable OS for the htpc because I couldn't find a driver for my remote for it. But during the time that I was messing with it I noticed no sluggishness out of the ordinary.
I don't use vista everyday. My uses need OS with less limits on it, Server 2003/2008 and RedHat Enterprise/Suse, so my exposure to it is limited. But the times that I have been exposed to it I have yet to encounter really any of the problems that people seem to say it has.
I'm thinking there was other reasons that computer was running slow other than vista. There might have been a shit load of crapware that was the problem and not the OS. Manufactures are notorious for sicking that crap on there.
Then I need to take a step back, maybe you are not part of the problem. There are several loop holes that I've thought about in any African quarantine. One of those would have been teachers going in to teach other teachers. Not to run classes for the Africans but to teach them to teach themselves.
Another would have been students coming out to learn but with the express implication that they would be returning to Africa once they are done. I say this because if the best and the brightest are allowed to learn in other countries then decide to stay, it helps no one.
Some of the lesser things I have though of would be to forgive all African debits since they are almost impossible to collect anyway. I see no reason to keep trying. I could be for a limited trade of food, medicine, and some cultural artifacts. Anything else is off limits. This trade would be African companies trading with foreign companies. At no time would foreign companies be allowed to set up shop in Africa like they do now.
Everything would be "cash on the barrel head" so to say. No credit or hand outs. That is part of the current problem now. I don't think they really have a grasp of what credit really is and hand outs just teach them to reply on others again.
Force is not really a realistic option in Africa. The amount of man power and the destruction required would be staggering. Might as well nuke the place down to the bedrock and be done with it. No, invasion was never really an option at all. Trying to subdue that a diverse place like Africa would be a fools quest.
I didn't mention western influence because I didn't think it was required. That is why I say cut it all off. Nothing going in or out then the western influence ends. Africa would be free to steer is own course.
And I would have to say that you are part of the problem then. What is it exactly that you are doing in Nigeria? You may think that you are helping them but in reality you are not. All you are doing is teaching them that if something is wrong someone from the outside will come in and fix it.
That applies to the people and the governments of Africa. They know that if they get hungry enough there will be boat load of gain in unending supplies coming from everywhere. The people know this and, worse, their leaders know this. Their leaders know they don't have to have any responsibility to their people because someone like you will do it for them. So that they can continue their little wars and actions to keep them in power.
You may think you are helping these people but you are not. You are just teaching them to be dependent on someone else. When an African child falls people like you rush in, pick it up, sooth it's tears, and tell it that it's going to be all right. When what you need to do is stand aside and let that child pick it's own self up or let other African pick it up.
I would have to say that I agree with you but there is nothing we can do about that now. We tried to make up for that and it's pretty much made things worse. Africa will have to come to grips with it's own problems. That will involve a lot of fucking blood shed too.
That would be something I agree on. The way I see it there is only two ways the world could solve Africa's problems, with force or ignore it.
The first solution requires an all out land invasion. Going in and tearing out all the old structures, beliefs, and basically bringing peace to Africa at the barrel of a gun. How well do you think this would work?
Next solution would be to basically wall off Africa, noting and nobody goes in or out. Cut them off from the rest of the world. Famine, war, and plague will pretty much take care of the rest.
Yes, it's heartless and pretty fucking sick but its the best I can think of. We've poured hundreds of billions of dollars of aid in to Africa over the last 60 years and all it has done is make it worse. They can't feed themselves but yet they continue to breed like flies forcing use to bring in more aid. AIDS is running ramped in Africa but yet they continue ignore all attempts to control it. And when they are not starving or dying of a disease they are shooting each other and fighting countless land wars over really nothing.
If we cut them off now from any outside sources they would be forced to figure out their own problems. And that is a main part of the problem. They don't have to deal with it because the west always comes to the rescue.
Millions will die if we cut them off, that is true. But what happens in 10 or 30 years when we can no longer afford to send aid to Africa. How many millions more will die that shouldn't have ever been born?
Really, who gives a shit anymore? If it's not this, it would be diamonds, gold, oil, or something else. Hell, if it wasn't somethign else they would just kill each other for the hell of it. Africa is one big hell hole and noting is going to change that in the next 200 years.
Thus is a good thing. Patenting software is like patenting a math equation. I can understand software copyrights but not a freaking patent. I wonder how this will affect the cases that where already in court.
Now if we can only get some sense in patents regarding biology. By the way my patent on the biological reproductive process in humans will go into affect today. So all you with kids prepare to cough up.
Ships are always supposed to be female, but it's part Russian so that must count for something.
It all comes down to money is what it does. I hate to use examples like this but you know what type of ship we could build if we had the $$$ they spent on the Iraq war?
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I imagine that volume for everything but the binaris groups is halving now instead of doubling. I used to keep few dozen groups on a 10 mb partition on my old Amiga 500 back in the '80.
When I started on Usenet, right after the flood waters receded, you had to know someone to get a feed from them. I used to get my daily usenet fix over a 2400 bps modem to an amiga 500 running dnews 1.13, I think. I was a collaborative effort.
Maybe in the future usenet can be reborn but with in a closed system again. You have to know someone to get a feed from.
Google groups is a pain in the ass to use. They are great when I'm researching something or just wanting to take trip down memory lane. Take a trip through comp.sys.amiga.* and remember what the big deal was about.
But compared to a full function news reader with thread control and kill files, it's a poor imitation.
I've heard of grabit. I searched long and hard for a usenet "harvester" program. The one I settled on was called usenet explorer. I really don't do much "strip mining" of usenet anymore. So Xnews works nicely.
www.usenet-access.com. They are 6 bucks a month and you get 2 GB per day. An unholy shitload of groups with the retention from hell. I've been able to snag stuff going back almost 2 years. I know they are a reseller for someone, I just don't know who. I've been using them for almost 6 years and never had issues with them at all.
Possible issues are, well 2 Gb per day but hell that an average of 60 GB per month. And you can only have 3 simultaneous connections but hell they are only 6 bucks a month.
Not when the quality of the comment is to land a +5, Funny.
I felt awkward at first till I got to the parts about my boy. Then I stopped giving a damn about her privacy. It was a good thing too. I was going to agree to giving her partial custody and unsupervised visitation rights. I gave them to my lawyer, then he showed them to the judge. I got full custody and a restraining order.
I still find it kind of funny that she stole the wrong damn computer. If they would have bothered to turn it on and read the display it would have requested the host be on for it to boot. I still wonder why they didn't just take both of them. They had the time. They took my swords, bow, 400+ cds, the stereo, and emptied out the freezer.
Holy Shit! Usenet is dead. For some reason my Xnews, open right now, seems to not have noticed.
Death Of Usenet has been predicted since its birth. Nothing to see here.
Screw that. It maybe their network but I have issues with them plastering signs up saying unlimited internet 60 bucks a month. Then sneaking in some shit in the contract written in flyspeck 3.
My story. I almost signed up for this 3G bullshit from AT&T. I asked the sales monkey what unlimited meant. He said it meant I could do anything with no limits, just what it said. I played 20 questions. I ask him could I watch unlimited video over it. He said yes, no limit. I ask him about running VPN on it 24/7. Same answer. I stated that I sometimes use bittorrent to download openSuse DVD iso, 4.5 GB. He nodded and said no problem.
So the fucker lied didn't he? He said to me point blank I could use p2p over the network but the contract woudl state I can't? This is the BS I have issues with. In the end I didn't get the service. Something about the way the sales monkey smiled.
Yeap, there it is, that magic word unlimited. I'm starting to think these isp have a different dictionary than the rest of us. One where the definition of unlimited changes to suit what they want it too. How building a bittorrent network that uses port 80 with encrypted data? Then when they cut you off for using p2p maybe you can sue them for breach of contract.
Well it all depends on how you use it. Back when I was married to The Bitch we had one master computer running linux that we both used. Sharing time on it was a bitch because I used it for work, and she used it for play. To solve this issue I rounded up a old '486, a 20 MB HD, and a 15" display. Piece of crap. I installed a very slimmed down linux, just enough to boot and connect the X server to central host.
She had her play computer and I had a work computer and everything was fine.
Actually there is was a interesting turn on that set up. After we separated her and some of her cult buddies broke in to my house and stole that X terminal I made her. I found out through a friend that they did that because they didn't me reading the email she left on "it" or having access to her icq logs. I found it very amusing that she had stole the wrong computer.
And if you wondering. Yes, I did look through the icq logs and email. I did show them to the judge and use them in court. I found out her nuttiness was more nutty then I ever imagined. I found out she had been abusing my son and what she had planed. So if your going to bitch about her privacy or some such BS, save it.
Those restore the crap disks are almost useless. They rely on there being a recover partition on the HD to work. Kind of SOL if its your HD that takes off south.
Consumer grade computers are mostly the problem with crapware. I wouldn't say that Dell is not guilty of it ether. On Dell's business class machines like the laptop I use came clean with no crapware. But my niece's Dell came preloaded with shit that made it almost unusable. It was one of those 500 buck dells, single core 1.6Ghz, 1GB of ram, cheaply made. Totally unusable for a professional machine but prefect for a 16 year old that needed a cheap laptop to do her school work on.
It ran like a dog out of the box. I "decrapafied" it by removing all the useless toolbars and shit that came preloaded on it. Tuned the OS, installed more recent drivers, and replaced the 4200 rpm HD with a 5400. It's not the fastest laptop in the world now but meets my minimum standards for being usable.
So over a year later, I got a new desktop machine at work. Athlon 64 3800+, 2Gb RAM, SATA drive. For giggles, I let it boot up into Vista. It was something like 20 to 30 minutes to get to the desktop, since it was a first boot. From there it was still dog slow. I had my Athlon 2400+ with 1Gb RAM running XP sitting beside it, and the performance difference was really sad.
I'm going to call BullShit on this! I loaded vista enterprise on an old Athlon64 3500 with 1GB and SATA drives to see what kind of HTPC I could make out of it. I noticed no abnormal boot time. I didn't time it but it was up by the time I got back from taking a piss. About 2 to 3 minutes. I didn't make an acceptable OS for the htpc because I couldn't find a driver for my remote for it. But during the time that I was messing with it I noticed no sluggishness out of the ordinary.
I don't use vista everyday. My uses need OS with less limits on it, Server 2003/2008 and RedHat Enterprise/Suse, so my exposure to it is limited. But the times that I have been exposed to it I have yet to encounter really any of the problems that people seem to say it has.
I'm thinking there was other reasons that computer was running slow other than vista. There might have been a shit load of crapware that was the problem and not the OS. Manufactures are notorious for sicking that crap on there.
Then I need to take a step back, maybe you are not part of the problem. There are several loop holes that I've thought about in any African quarantine. One of those would have been teachers going in to teach other teachers. Not to run classes for the Africans but to teach them to teach themselves.
Another would have been students coming out to learn but with the express implication that they would be returning to Africa once they are done. I say this because if the best and the brightest are allowed to learn in other countries then decide to stay, it helps no one.
Some of the lesser things I have though of would be to forgive all African debits since they are almost impossible to collect anyway. I see no reason to keep trying. I could be for a limited trade of food, medicine, and some cultural artifacts. Anything else is off limits. This trade would be African companies trading with foreign companies. At no time would foreign companies be allowed to set up shop in Africa like they do now.
Everything would be "cash on the barrel head" so to say. No credit or hand outs. That is part of the current problem now. I don't think they really have a grasp of what credit really is and hand outs just teach them to reply on others again.
Force is not really a realistic option in Africa. The amount of man power and the destruction required would be staggering. Might as well nuke the place down to the bedrock and be done with it. No, invasion was never really an option at all. Trying to subdue that a diverse place like Africa would be a fools quest.
I didn't mention western influence because I didn't think it was required. That is why I say cut it all off. Nothing going in or out then the western influence ends. Africa would be free to steer is own course.
And I would have to say that you are part of the problem then. What is it exactly that you are doing in Nigeria? You may think that you are helping them but in reality you are not. All you are doing is teaching them that if something is wrong someone from the outside will come in and fix it.
That applies to the people and the governments of Africa. They know that if they get hungry enough there will be boat load of gain in unending supplies coming from everywhere. The people know this and, worse, their leaders know this. Their leaders know they don't have to have any responsibility to their people because someone like you will do it for them. So that they can continue their little wars and actions to keep them in power.
You may think you are helping these people but you are not. You are just teaching them to be dependent on someone else. When an African child falls people like you rush in, pick it up, sooth it's tears, and tell it that it's going to be all right. When what you need to do is stand aside and let that child pick it's own self up or let other African pick it up.
I would have to say that I agree with you but there is nothing we can do about that now. We tried to make up for that and it's pretty much made things worse. Africa will have to come to grips with it's own problems. That will involve a lot of fucking blood shed too.
That would be something I agree on. The way I see it there is only two ways the world could solve Africa's problems, with force or ignore it.
The first solution requires an all out land invasion. Going in and tearing out all the old structures, beliefs, and basically bringing peace to Africa at the barrel of a gun. How well do you think this would work?
Next solution would be to basically wall off Africa, noting and nobody goes in or out. Cut them off from the rest of the world. Famine, war, and plague will pretty much take care of the rest.
Yes, it's heartless and pretty fucking sick but its the best I can think of. We've poured hundreds of billions of dollars of aid in to Africa over the last 60 years and all it has done is make it worse. They can't feed themselves but yet they continue to breed like flies forcing use to bring in more aid. AIDS is running ramped in Africa but yet they continue ignore all attempts to control it. And when they are not starving or dying of a disease they are shooting each other and fighting countless land wars over really nothing.
If we cut them off now from any outside sources they would be forced to figure out their own problems. And that is a main part of the problem. They don't have to deal with it because the west always comes to the rescue.
Millions will die if we cut them off, that is true. But what happens in 10 or 30 years when we can no longer afford to send aid to Africa. How many millions more will die that shouldn't have ever been born?
Really, who gives a shit anymore? If it's not this, it would be diamonds, gold, oil, or something else. Hell, if it wasn't somethign else they would just kill each other for the hell of it. Africa is one big hell hole and noting is going to change that in the next 200 years.
Nothing to see here.
Read Harry Turtledove's Worldwar books to get a idea what aliens might think of the human reproductive process.
"Superior sir, that was one of the most revolting processes I have ever had the misfortune to observe."
Damn Fine Books.
Thus is a good thing. Patenting software is like patenting a math equation. I can understand software copyrights but not a freaking patent. I wonder how this will affect the cases that where already in court.
Now if we can only get some sense in patents regarding biology. By the way my patent on the biological reproductive process in humans will go into affect today. So all you with kids prepare to cough up.
Ships are always supposed to be female, but it's part Russian so that must count for something.
It all comes down to money is what it does. I hate to use examples like this but you know what type of ship we could build if we had the $$$ they spent on the Iraq war?