There is plenty of proof that we went to the moon with out looking for the flags.
The first if the radio signals themselves that the moon mission used. Those messages where on an open channel so anyone could listen in. You bet the Soviets where listening in to every word said. They would have went over those communications with a tweezers and microscope. If they found anything specious they would have screamed bullshit. Plus you know they had spies inside nasa watching everything.
The only people with reason and the technology to question the moon landings never has.
Okay, it looks cool, I'll give you that. An it is much better design than that repackaged Apollo wanna be that nasa is going to put up. But you know what? It's still dead end technology. It's the same crap we've been doing for the last 40 years, just in a shinny new package. The landing thrusters are something new, I'll give you that.
But it's the 21 century now. Time to do something new. Why don't we build a fucking space ship? Not capsules or orbiters but a honest to god ship. We've got most of the technology on the shelf now and what we don't have is almost finished. Time for most space fairing countries to end the space race and lets work together and build a Discovery or Leonov.
We've got nuclear power plants used in submarines that are small enough to power the bitch. There where plans and tests for nuclear rockets in the '60s. There are test phase plasma rockets being tested now. There are still some issues to workout. Active shielding using magnetic fields is still in the test but looks good. And long term life support is still and issue but that to is looking good. But these are not unsolvable problems.
Mass. Venus is the closest planet to Earth in the system. In many ways its more Earth like than Mars will ever be. If we can find ways to fix the rotational problem, jump start the plate tectonics, and add oceans to it we can make it another earth. We do have to clean up the atmosphere but that is small taters compared to the rotation and plate tectonics issue.
What Venus offers is a place to build another living breathing planet. Something Mars will never become. Venus has enough mass that it can hold a Earth like atmosphere and we can create a self sustaining biosphere. In other words a biosphere that can be made to be self maintaining like Earth.
You can never do that with Mars. The planet just isn't massive enough to hold an atmosphere. Sure you can terraform it but it will never be a self sustaining planet. Every few million or so years you will have to jumpstart it again. If done right you will never have to do that with Venus.
Good points. You don't have to get rid of the atmosphere
Water. What you need is water, and I mean shit loads of it. More than shitloads.. what ever is next up on the scale above shitload and more of that.
You use the water to wash the sulpher and co2 out of the atmosphere. The co2 gets dissolved in the water and becomes limestone in the future. You introduce sulpher eating bacteria to take care of the sulpher in the water.
The addition of water, oceans of it, will also act as a lubricant to help start the plate tectonic process in the future. Good luck with that.
Increasing the planet's angular momentum would solve this, but the sheer amount of energy needed is mind-bending. I'm not even sure what spinning up a world would do to it's surface or internal structure. Forget centuries, we'd need a millennium or two to fix this
This is not that hard to do, at least on paper. The idea is you bring in a rock the size of the moon, Jupiter has a few. You place it in a long term orbit so every few years it passes close to Venus. Some of the angular momentum get transferred from moon to planet speeding up rotation and slowing down moon. Eventually you want to settle the moon into a long term orbit to act as anchor to stabilize the planet. YOu want to do this over many years to keep from ripping the planet apart.
Truthfully we never worked out the math on this plan because another theory predicted that instead of changing the rotation of venus you would just change its orbit. You would ether fling it out of the solar system or right into the sun. Ether way not good for your future terriforming plans.
What is the point then? If we are going to have to shield them from the atmosphere and radiation any way, why make it more complex and build them 50 km up? Just build them on the surface and be done with it. That way you don't have to deal with the extra layer of complexity of "floating" them, or whatever, 50 km up in the air.
Tim Flannery is a crackpot. He lost all credibility when he suggested filling the air with sulfur.
Just because we couldn't have survived in the environment 3.5 billion years ago does in no way invalidate my statement. We clean up our act and the environment will do just fine.
Personally I'm starting to think that most of this planets problems would be solved if we just dropped a 8 mile wide asteroid in the south pacific. North Atlantic would work too.
That is pretty much it. People who keep trying to come up with stupid ass ideas to fix the environment are almost always dumb asses anyway. First of all there is nothing wrong with the environment that needs fixing. We are not yet at the point of no return. What the environment needs from us is for us to start acting in a more reasonable manner.
Once we start doing that the environment will correct itself. It has gotten along fine without our help for 3.5 billion years. I'm pretty sure if we left it alone and fixed our issues then it will do just fine.
I'm calling Bullshit! ISP shutting down usenet does nothing about anything. Hell, how are they shutting down usenet? Blocking port 119? That is bullshit too.
Shake the google tree for usenet access and see what falls out. You'll get at least half a dozen dedicated usenet providers alone. Most of the offering unlimited access and SSL connections for around 20 bucks a month. All most every one of them offers SSL connections and connections on ports other than 119 just to get around blocking 119. Hell, the one I use even has port 80 and 25 open for nntp. They use SSL connections just so some dumbasses can't see what your downloading.
No this is feel good bullshit that won't even put a dent in kiddy porn.
I actually thought about Mandarin but disregarded it because how complex a language it is. I decided on languages with a Latin base because while they are similar they are different enough to be apparent that they are different languages. Spanish would be good. I didn't think about Hindu and Arabic though. I added elvish, but klingon works, just to fuck with their minds.
How about we just simply write the warning in several languages and trust that any future civilizations would be smart enough to translate it? I mean it worked for the Egyptians didn't it? We figured out that, that writing was warning us of a curse on King Tuts tomb. Didn't slow us down but was nice of them to warn us. I would think that a similar warning on a drum of nuclear waste would have the same effect but it would be nice to warn them.
Write it in english, latin, spanish, and elvish and be done with it.
It may not say "naked children" in the law but that has been what it has been interpreted to mean. So now they will send your ass to jail and take your children if you have a picture of them in the bathtub.
I've seen this. It was remounted to point straight up with the feed horn removed. The base had been made to look like a large stand and some of those plastic pink birds had been in it.
There are other ways to get around this too. I've seen compatibility mode work sometimes for this. Just tell the installer that you are installing in vista or xp. This is one of the few times I've actually had compatibility mode ever do something useful.
Another is to use something like winrar and crack the install open and lay it out. Most of the time you can find a second install program inside the first that by passes these checks.
This is not the issue I had with ClamAV. I think its close to the perfect AV for me. What I like the most is it doesn't hang around in the background soaking up cpu resources by checking everything I load into memory.
When I download something or have something I don't trust, I right click on it and scan it. I have it scheduled to scan the entire system at night to pick up anything I missed. It mails me a nice report that I read through in the morning.
Of course I'm much more careful of what I download and what sites I visit so virus and other shit have really never been an issue with me. The last virus that infected my primary system was back on my Amiga 500. I keep a sandbox PC around with a base load to test shit I really don't trust.
Turn the crap off then. I've been running server 2003 as my workstation OS for several years. I just made the jump to 2008 in the last few months. I have yet to see anything annoying that couldn't simply turned off. Sounds like issues with IE enhanced security. Just turn it off and be done with it.
I've heard something like that but my sources say it goes back much farther than the U.S. Army. I've heard that the reference goes back to the 1700 when an assload was defined as how much gun powder an ass could carry. I think it worked out to be 4 kegs or right about 80 pounds.
Unlike you I have no references, just a hazy memory.
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And your point would be?
There is plenty of proof that we went to the moon with out looking for the flags.
The first if the radio signals themselves that the moon mission used. Those messages where on an open channel so anyone could listen in. You bet the Soviets where listening in to every word said. They would have went over those communications with a tweezers and microscope. If they found anything specious they would have screamed bullshit. Plus you know they had spies inside nasa watching everything.
The only people with reason and the technology to question the moon landings never has.
Yeap, we are going to get brother jeb in the whitehouse. May god have mercy on us all.
I've often been told that if I had enough money that I was just one white cat of a James Bond super villain
Okay, it looks cool, I'll give you that. An it is much better design than that repackaged Apollo wanna be that nasa is going to put up. But you know what? It's still dead end technology. It's the same crap we've been doing for the last 40 years, just in a shinny new package. The landing thrusters are something new, I'll give you that.
But it's the 21 century now. Time to do something new. Why don't we build a fucking space ship? Not capsules or orbiters but a honest to god ship. We've got most of the technology on the shelf now and what we don't have is almost finished. Time for most space fairing countries to end the space race and lets work together and build a Discovery or Leonov.
We've got nuclear power plants used in submarines that are small enough to power the bitch. There where plans and tests for nuclear rockets in the '60s. There are test phase plasma rockets being tested now. There are still some issues to workout. Active shielding using magnetic fields is still in the test but looks good. And long term life support is still and issue but that to is looking good. But these are not unsolvable problems.
Mass. Venus is the closest planet to Earth in the system. In many ways its more Earth like than Mars will ever be. If we can find ways to fix the rotational problem, jump start the plate tectonics, and add oceans to it we can make it another earth. We do have to clean up the atmosphere but that is small taters compared to the rotation and plate tectonics issue.
What Venus offers is a place to build another living breathing planet. Something Mars will never become. Venus has enough mass that it can hold a Earth like atmosphere and we can create a self sustaining biosphere. In other words a biosphere that can be made to be self maintaining like Earth.
You can never do that with Mars. The planet just isn't massive enough to hold an atmosphere. Sure you can terraform it but it will never be a self sustaining planet. Every few million or so years you will have to jumpstart it again. If done right you will never have to do that with Venus.
Good points. You don't have to get rid of the atmosphere
Water. What you need is water, and I mean shit loads of it. More than shitloads.. what ever is next up on the scale above shitload and more of that.
You use the water to wash the sulpher and co2 out of the atmosphere. The co2 gets dissolved in the water and becomes limestone in the future. You introduce sulpher eating bacteria to take care of the sulpher in the water.
The addition of water, oceans of it, will also act as a lubricant to help start the plate tectonic process in the future. Good luck with that.
Increasing the planet's angular momentum would solve this, but the sheer amount of energy needed is mind-bending. I'm not even sure what spinning up a world would do to it's surface or internal structure. Forget centuries, we'd need a millennium or two to fix this
This is not that hard to do, at least on paper. The idea is you bring in a rock the size of the moon, Jupiter has a few. You place it in a long term orbit so every few years it passes close to Venus. Some of the angular momentum get transferred from moon to planet speeding up rotation and slowing down moon. Eventually you want to settle the moon into a long term orbit to act as anchor to stabilize the planet. YOu want to do this over many years to keep from ripping the planet apart.
Truthfully we never worked out the math on this plan because another theory predicted that instead of changing the rotation of venus you would just change its orbit. You would ether fling it out of the solar system or right into the sun. Ether way not good for your future terriforming plans.
What is the point then? If we are going to have to shield them from the atmosphere and radiation any way, why make it more complex and build them 50 km up? Just build them on the surface and be done with it. That way you don't have to deal with the extra layer of complexity of "floating" them, or whatever, 50 km up in the air.
Cool, now I don't have to talk to the remaining friends that I have.
Tim Flannery is a crackpot. He lost all credibility when he suggested filling the air with sulfur.
Just because we couldn't have survived in the environment 3.5 billion years ago does in no way invalidate my statement. We clean up our act and the environment will do just fine.
Personally I'm starting to think that most of this planets problems would be solved if we just dropped a 8 mile wide asteroid in the south pacific. North Atlantic would work too.
That is pretty much it. People who keep trying to come up with stupid ass ideas to fix the environment are almost always dumb asses anyway. First of all there is nothing wrong with the environment that needs fixing. We are not yet at the point of no return. What the environment needs from us is for us to start acting in a more reasonable manner.
Once we start doing that the environment will correct itself. It has gotten along fine without our help for 3.5 billion years. I'm pretty sure if we left it alone and fixed our issues then it will do just fine.
Yeah, I know. I just used it to get off a damn fine bullshit rant.
I'm calling Bullshit! ISP shutting down usenet does nothing about anything. Hell, how are they shutting down usenet? Blocking port 119? That is bullshit too.
Shake the google tree for usenet access and see what falls out. You'll get at least half a dozen dedicated usenet providers alone. Most of the offering unlimited access and SSL connections for around 20 bucks a month. All most every one of them offers SSL connections and connections on ports other than 119 just to get around blocking 119. Hell, the one I use even has port 80 and 25 open for nntp. They use SSL connections just so some dumbasses can't see what your downloading.
No this is feel good bullshit that won't even put a dent in kiddy porn.
Thus is Bullshit, I say, Bullshit!
I actually thought about Mandarin but disregarded it because how complex a language it is. I decided on languages with a Latin base because while they are similar they are different enough to be apparent that they are different languages. Spanish would be good. I didn't think about Hindu and Arabic though. I added elvish, but klingon works, just to fuck with their minds.
How about we just simply write the warning in several languages and trust that any future civilizations would be smart enough to translate it? I mean it worked for the Egyptians didn't it? We figured out that, that writing was warning us of a curse on King Tuts tomb. Didn't slow us down but was nice of them to warn us. I would think that a similar warning on a drum of nuclear waste would have the same effect but it would be nice to warn them.
Write it in english, latin, spanish, and elvish and be done with it.
It may not say "naked children" in the law but that has been what it has been interpreted to mean. So now they will send your ass to jail and take your children if you have a picture of them in the bathtub.
Change the puddin to jell-o, green. Throw in half a dozen bimbo's and you have a party.
For radio uses- add one high powered tesla coil and, well go figure :).
You think this would actually work? Cool. One more thing to have my friends bail me out of jail for.
I've seen this. It was remounted to point straight up with the feed horn removed. The base had been made to look like a large stand and some of those plastic pink birds had been in it.
There are other ways to get around this too. I've seen compatibility mode work sometimes for this. Just tell the installer that you are installing in vista or xp. This is one of the few times I've actually had compatibility mode ever do something useful.
Another is to use something like winrar and crack the install open and lay it out. Most of the time you can find a second install program inside the first that by passes these checks.
This is not the issue I had with ClamAV. I think its close to the perfect AV for me. What I like the most is it doesn't hang around in the background soaking up cpu resources by checking everything I load into memory.
When I download something or have something I don't trust, I right click on it and scan it. I have it scheduled to scan the entire system at night to pick up anything I missed. It mails me a nice report that I read through in the morning.
Of course I'm much more careful of what I download and what sites I visit so virus and other shit have really never been an issue with me. The last virus that infected my primary system was back on my Amiga 500. I keep a sandbox PC around with a base load to test shit I really don't trust.
Turn the crap off then. I've been running server 2003 as my workstation OS for several years. I just made the jump to 2008 in the last few months. I have yet to see anything annoying that couldn't simply turned off. Sounds like issues with IE enhanced security. Just turn it off and be done with it.
I've heard something like that but my sources say it goes back much farther than the U.S. Army. I've heard that the reference goes back to the 1700 when an assload was defined as how much gun powder an ass could carry. I think it worked out to be 4 kegs or right about 80 pounds.
Unlike you I have no references, just a hazy memory.