In the presence of genius? That is a matter of option. I've read all three of those books and I think they are all garbage. I can't even remember any detail about the The Great Gatsby and I'm good at remembering books that I've read. I tried to read Lolita making no judgments on its subject material. To my horror I found that Vladimir Nabokov can't write.
But what is considered good reading is a matter of personal tastes and changes over time. Maybe I should try to read them again. Twenty years later and my option of them might have changed. I used to think that Ender's Game was a great master piece. It pissed me off to no end when OSC whipped out his dick and pissed all over it. I went back and read it again, it's amazing how your views can change over the years.
A classic has been defined as something that everyone praises as a classic but no body reads. A good thing to, because I think if everyone that praised them read them we would have fewer classics. For a point I used to praise Lolita because my english teacher did. Then I tried to read the damn thing. It sucks. Not because of the subject material, which I won't go into, but because Vladimir Nabokov can't fucking write.
Same with Moby Dick. Holy Shit! The was the most painful thing I've ever been held at gun point to read. My literary grade was riding on it. fucking hippy teacher
On a subnote not related to a damn thing here. If you liked the Harry Potter stories you might want to look into the Harry Dresden books. Horribly written and as ciche as hell but a fucking hoot to read. Think a cross between Harry Potter, Coulmbo, and Dirty Harry.
Okay, I agree with you on all points. But I'm still not convenced that you are not waisting your time with it. The dumb asses are going to believe what they are told in church no matter what. The smart ones will realize its a crock on their own. Since you can't do nothing about former and the latter seem to be a okay on their own.
Besides I find that these things tend to die on their own. It's a new thing right now, in a year or so people will have lost interest in it and that will be it. Evolutionist, like me, will go to it for its entertainment value and the True Believers will go for the religious expirence. Once they have gone it's, been there, done that.
Since is by nature can never have nothing new to offer ether, it is a self correcting problem.
Evolution is a science. Why is it a science? Because it follows the scientific method. There is evidence and rules what can be treated as evidence. When the evidence no longer fits the model the model will be changed to fit the evidence. An this goes on and on until the evidence and the model fit together like a fine wine and cheese.
Creationism on the other hand cannot follow the scientific method. For one thing there is only one theory and that theory can never be modified. Where on the other hand the theory of evolution has changed in the last 150 years since is formulation. Creationism is just the opposite of science. Since you can't change the theory you have to change the evidence. You can't do that in science. You have to go by what the evidence says.
My friend as Penn & Teller say, "Creationsim is Bullshit!"
Which I why I try not to get interested in a TV program till well into the 3rd or 5th season. That way the show will have a proven track record of good shit worth watching. SG-1 was like that. I didn't get interested until 4th season. I should have jumped ship in the middle of the 6th season, but for some reason I've decided to ride that bitch right into the wall.
What was a I yammering about? Oh yeah, if I pick up a show then I can go back and netflix the first seasons or just watch them in reruns. Usually by the time I get caught up the show is out of my system and I no longer give a shit. CSI and The Shield was like that. I caught CSI in the middle, got interested in it. CBS ran a rerun of the show like every 5 minutes so I was caught up real damn quick.
Holy Crap! Your true believer. I've meet a few of you but it aways stuns me when I encounter one in the wild. You've actually bought into that Jimi was god and Dylan can sing hook, line, and sinker. Well, being a true believer there is nothing I can say to change your mind.
In a way that is really sad because you'll never be able to appreciate true artists like Joe Satriani and BB King. Because to really appreciate them you will realize how sad Jimi's music is compared to them. What makes them great is they don't need cheap tricks like playing a guitar with their ass. They just simply are.
You know many people say that being a true believer in something is the first step on the road to hell. It closes your mind to better things in the world around you. You might want to get some help for that. There are drugs out there that can do wonders things for mental disorders such as what you have. You might not be to far gone to get help.
Holy Fucking Shit! You think I'm 14? Talk about me being clueless. God, I wish I was 14 again.
Jimi, as you put him, was a mediocre guitar player at best. If he just died yesterday of what he died of we would be laughing at him for his future Darwin award. I've already given you a list of players he can't hold a candle too. This discussion is over, I'm right and you're wrong. Period.
PS Dylan singing sound slightly better than a '57 Chevy stripping it's gears.
I'll give you that, music does come down to personal tastes. I also maybe to hard on Hendrix fans. I guess what I'm bitch'n about is people who say Hendrix was God and close minded about anything else out there. There are lots of players out there than can play circle around him. While I will not say that Hendrix is the greatest guitar player that ever lived, I will say this. He did a Damn good job of blazing a trail for those that followed.
As for Bob Dylan, people need to face it, he can't sing. He may be a great song writer and I'll give him that, but sing, no chance. Bib Dylan has been declared to be the greatest singer who can't sing.
And you would be wrong. I used to think Hendrix was a god until I started listening to him. Then I started playing him. I'm not that good, in fact I suck. If I can play him just as good as him then he wasn't that good to start with. I don't know a 14 year old aspiring guitar player that can't play that national anthem thing he did. That was my second clue that he wasn't that good. Oh, and he can't sing ether.
I'm not even going to discuss Bob Dylan. Anyone who thinks Dylan has any talent what so ever option is not even worth considering. In fact I have no reason why I'm even responding to you.
Why? I may like their guitar playing but doesn't mean I agree with them about who is a great guitar player. I like U2's music, well older U2, but I don't give a rats ass about what Bonno thinks.
But privately you will find that most people agree with me anyway. You see people have gotten it pounded into their head that Hendrix was a god and it would be uncool to speak ill of him. So to seem like they are cool they just go along with the crowd. It like people who like Bob Dylan only less. Have you ever listened to Bob Dylan? He sucks, I mean he really sucks. The only thing bob Dylan ever did that was good for the music was introduce the beetles to pot.
Two years ago the battery in my car dropped dead. The anti-theft device on my car radio though it was being stolen and locked its ass up. Now it just asks me for a key when I turn it on. Guess who doesn't have the key code? The car dealership wanted to charge me a 100 bucks to unlock the damn thing. Fuck that, I can buy a walmart radio for a 100 bucks and it better than the one I have now.
I don't think that anymore. I don't think there is any better radio than the one I have now. Now , I know why I think that.
Yes you can. Jimi Hendrix was a no talented hack. He did a couple of semi interesting guitar tricks in front of a few drugged out hippies. Have you ever listened to his ass while your sober? The fucker can't even carry a tune in a bucket. Hendrix against real guitar players like Jeff Beck, Randy Rhoads, and Joe Satriani. Up against them and the only thing that is Hendrix's claim to fame is he is dead.
Whoops, my bad. Randy Rhoads is dead. So much for that.
I saw no references to piracy in the orginal post. Not that I have problem with that option. But there is always netflix or some other form of rental. For instance I have see every episode of showtimes Bullshit and I shit canned my showtime subscription years ago.
The reason it's good to rent than buy these type of productions is you get to see the show, while the spawn of evil, mpaa, doesn't get one god damn red cent of my money.
We also have to take into account messages that are sent to multiple people and those short push button replies. With my phone I can push a button and send yes, no, ok, or fuck off with one push. I love programable phones. Then we have to take into account if she gets charged for incomming messages. Cingular users bend over and grab your ankles. Still even with all this I can't imagine 6000 text messages and my phone has a full keyboard on it. I cringe when thinking about sending that many messages if you have the standard 12 key phone.
Oh yeah she would be paying me back and I would take my 1000 bucks out on her phone. As a parent myself I expect that as my kids get older I will be paying for unexpected but normal child good growing expectations. Bicycles, skateboards, trips to the ER,... bail. But a 1000 buck phone bill. If you don't understand the word cheap please look it up, that will be my picture illistrating it. But a 1000 bucks, not only would she find herself with her phone in a doggy bag but her next phone she would be paying for with her own money.
Wow! An I thought I was one with apathy. But, you know, he has a point. I had a home phone with the number in the book. All I got was shit from telemarketers, shit on the answering machine. Sure the donot call list cut out a shit load of it but then people started calling that thought they had a business relationship with them. Finally I just pulled the plug on the damn thing and went with my cell phone. My motto is if you don't know my cell phone number I don't want to talk to you.
Same way I guess with my public email address. Sure I have spam filters from hell, gets 98% of the shit I guess. Still there is at least half a dozen peices of shit in there every other day. Maintaining spam filters is a bitch but I do it. A couple hours at least a month if I add it all up.
Then the spam still gets dumped into a junk folder and I have to sort though that at least once a week, more often if I'm expecting something important.
Fuck It! I'm deleting the fucker when I get home. You want to get in contact with me, I hope you have my cell phone.
There is nothing wrong with character developement. There is something wrong with useless and irrevelent character developement. There is also something wrong with character development that doesn't advance the plot line or over developing characters.
The ideal behind the show is lost tribe, ass kicked by cylon, off to find earth. Not drunk ass tigh under a cot, father and son bullshit that takes up more than 15 mins a season that is not important to the plot. Seeing Starbuck want to get into apollo's pants, cute, for 5 mins once. After that nobody gives a shit.
Can we have an a fucking men here? I don't care about adamn and his fucked up son father son bullshit. I give less than a rats ass about said son/jackass's death wish. Kill the fucker off and lets get on with it. If tigh wants to drink himself into a stooper more power to him, just do it off screen.
I give so little a fuck about the characters personl problems. Blow more fucking shit up, find more shit, and get on the fucking road to earth. The rest is just bullshit!
You people are forgetting the most obvious conclusion to the series. I came to this right after the pilot movies.
You see, kobal wasn't the home of the human race. It was a planet colonized by seeder ships from Earth thousands of years ago. We'll call humans from Earth humans 1.0 and the seeded humans, humans 2.0. Well humans 2.0 build a civilization apart from human 1.0 on Earth. Mean while humans 1.0 are carefully watching over humans 2.0 from a distance. When human 2.0 are threatened by a natural disaster humans 1.0 guide human 2.0 to safety at the new colonies. This is where the names of the ancient gods came into play.
During all this or before this the humans on Earth, humans 1.0, underwent a vorlon like transformation and became humans 3.0. Now the new humans 3.0 decided that after they had lead humans 2.0 to safety it was time for human 2.0 to live on their own. So humans 3.0 left humans 2.0 to fend for themselves.
Now when human 2.0 reach Earth followed by the Cylons they will find a civilization so far in advanced that they can barely comprehend them. Humans 3.0 will simply tell them there is nothing for them at Earth and they cannot interfere in their affaires. They will send humans 2.0 to their fate.
As for the thirteenth tribe, they didn't go discover Earth, they just went home.
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In the presence of genius? That is a matter of option. I've read all three of those books and I think they are all garbage. I can't even remember any detail about the The Great Gatsby and I'm good at remembering books that I've read. I tried to read Lolita making no judgments on its subject material. To my horror I found that Vladimir Nabokov can't write.
But what is considered good reading is a matter of personal tastes and changes over time. Maybe I should try to read them again. Twenty years later and my option of them might have changed. I used to think that Ender's Game was a great master piece. It pissed me off to no end when OSC whipped out his dick and pissed all over it. I went back and read it again, it's amazing how your views can change over the years.
A classic has been defined as something that everyone praises as a classic but no body reads. A good thing to, because I think if everyone that praised them read them we would have fewer classics. For a point I used to praise Lolita because my english teacher did. Then I tried to read the damn thing. It sucks. Not because of the subject material, which I won't go into, but because Vladimir Nabokov can't fucking write.
Same with Moby Dick. Holy Shit! The was the most painful thing I've ever been held at gun point to read. My literary grade was riding on it. fucking hippy teacher
On a subnote not related to a damn thing here. If you liked the Harry Potter stories you might want to look into the Harry Dresden books. Horribly written and as ciche as hell but a fucking hoot to read. Think a cross between Harry Potter, Coulmbo, and Dirty Harry.
Okay, I agree with you on all points. But I'm still not convenced that you are not waisting your time with it. The dumb asses are going to believe what they are told in church no matter what. The smart ones will realize its a crock on their own. Since you can't do nothing about former and the latter seem to be a okay on their own.
Besides I find that these things tend to die on their own. It's a new thing right now, in a year or so people will have lost interest in it and that will be it. Evolutionist, like me, will go to it for its entertainment value and the True Believers will go for the religious expirence. Once they have gone it's, been there, done that.
Since is by nature can never have nothing new to offer ether, it is a self correcting problem.
Evolution is a science. Why is it a science? Because it follows the scientific method. There is evidence and rules what can be treated as evidence. When the evidence no longer fits the model the model will be changed to fit the evidence. An this goes on and on until the evidence and the model fit together like a fine wine and cheese.
Creationism on the other hand cannot follow the scientific method. For one thing there is only one theory and that theory can never be modified. Where on the other hand the theory of evolution has changed in the last 150 years since is formulation. Creationism is just the opposite of science. Since you can't change the theory you have to change the evidence. You can't do that in science. You have to go by what the evidence says.
My friend as Penn & Teller say, "Creationsim is Bullshit!"
Why are you protesting? Who gives a shit? As long as they keep their creationist crap out of our schools, that's all I care about.
Which I why I try not to get interested in a TV program till well into the 3rd or 5th season. That way the show will have a proven track record of good shit worth watching. SG-1 was like that. I didn't get interested until 4th season. I should have jumped ship in the middle of the 6th season, but for some reason I've decided to ride that bitch right into the wall.
What was a I yammering about? Oh yeah, if I pick up a show then I can go back and netflix the first seasons or just watch them in reruns. Usually by the time I get caught up the show is out of my system and I no longer give a shit. CSI and The Shield was like that. I caught CSI in the middle, got interested in it. CBS ran a rerun of the show like every 5 minutes so I was caught up real damn quick.
Yea, I'm definitely tempted to write them a little thank you note!
Yeah, same here. I'm tempted to write it with my ass, in a box. Then mail it to them. Feces package anyone?
Holy Crap! Your true believer. I've meet a few of you but it aways stuns me when I encounter one in the wild. You've actually bought into that Jimi was god and Dylan can sing hook, line, and sinker. Well, being a true believer there is nothing I can say to change your mind.
In a way that is really sad because you'll never be able to appreciate true artists like Joe Satriani and BB King. Because to really appreciate them you will realize how sad Jimi's music is compared to them. What makes them great is they don't need cheap tricks like playing a guitar with their ass. They just simply are.
You know many people say that being a true believer in something is the first step on the road to hell. It closes your mind to better things in the world around you. You might want to get some help for that. There are drugs out there that can do wonders things for mental disorders such as what you have. You might not be to far gone to get help.
PS Dylan still can't sing.
Holy Fucking Shit! You think I'm 14? Talk about me being clueless. God, I wish I was 14 again.
Jimi, as you put him, was a mediocre guitar player at best. If he just died yesterday of what he died of we would be laughing at him for his future Darwin award. I've already given you a list of players he can't hold a candle too. This discussion is over, I'm right and you're wrong. Period.
PS Dylan singing sound slightly better than a '57 Chevy stripping it's gears.
I'll give you that, music does come down to personal tastes. I also maybe to hard on Hendrix fans. I guess what I'm bitch'n about is people who say Hendrix was God and close minded about anything else out there. There are lots of players out there than can play circle around him. While I will not say that Hendrix is the greatest guitar player that ever lived, I will say this. He did a Damn good job of blazing a trail for those that followed.
As for Bob Dylan, people need to face it, he can't sing. He may be a great song writer and I'll give him that, but sing, no chance. Bib Dylan has been declared to be the greatest singer who can't sing.
And you would be wrong. I used to think Hendrix was a god until I started listening to him. Then I started playing him. I'm not that good, in fact I suck. If I can play him just as good as him then he wasn't that good to start with. I don't know a 14 year old aspiring guitar player that can't play that national anthem thing he did. That was my second clue that he wasn't that good. Oh, and he can't sing ether.
I'm not even going to discuss Bob Dylan. Anyone who thinks Dylan has any talent what so ever option is not even worth considering. In fact I have no reason why I'm even responding to you.
Why? I may like their guitar playing but doesn't mean I agree with them about who is a great guitar player. I like U2's music, well older U2, but I don't give a rats ass about what Bonno thinks.
But privately you will find that most people agree with me anyway. You see people have gotten it pounded into their head that Hendrix was a god and it would be uncool to speak ill of him. So to seem like they are cool they just go along with the crowd. It like people who like Bob Dylan only less. Have you ever listened to Bob Dylan? He sucks, I mean he really sucks. The only thing bob Dylan ever did that was good for the music was introduce the beetles to pot.
Two years ago the battery in my car dropped dead. The anti-theft device on my car radio though it was being stolen and locked its ass up. Now it just asks me for a key when I turn it on. Guess who doesn't have the key code? The car dealership wanted to charge me a 100 bucks to unlock the damn thing. Fuck that, I can buy a walmart radio for a 100 bucks and it better than the one I have now.
I don't think that anymore. I don't think there is any better radio than the one I have now. Now , I know why I think that.
Yes you can. Jimi Hendrix was a no talented hack. He did a couple of semi interesting guitar tricks in front of a few drugged out hippies. Have you ever listened to his ass while your sober? The fucker can't even carry a tune in a bucket. Hendrix against real guitar players like Jeff Beck, Randy Rhoads, and Joe Satriani. Up against them and the only thing that is Hendrix's claim to fame is he is dead.
Whoops, my bad. Randy Rhoads is dead. So much for that.
Let me guess. The mpaa gets a chunk of everything I rent? I actually thought of that right after I pushed the submit button.
I saw no references to piracy in the orginal post. Not that I have problem with that option. But there is always netflix or some other form of rental. For instance I have see every episode of showtimes Bullshit and I shit canned my showtime subscription years ago.
The reason it's good to rent than buy these type of productions is you get to see the show, while the spawn of evil, mpaa, doesn't get one god damn red cent of my money.
We also have to take into account messages that are sent to multiple people and those short push button replies. With my phone I can push a button and send yes, no, ok, or fuck off with one push. I love programable phones. Then we have to take into account if she gets charged for incomming messages. Cingular users bend over and grab your ankles. Still even with all this I can't imagine 6000 text messages and my phone has a full keyboard on it. I cringe when thinking about sending that many messages if you have the standard 12 key phone.
Oh yeah she would be paying me back and I would take my 1000 bucks out on her phone. As a parent myself I expect that as my kids get older I will be paying for unexpected but normal child good growing expectations. Bicycles, skateboards, trips to the ER,... bail. But a 1000 buck phone bill. If you don't understand the word cheap please look it up, that will be my picture illistrating it. But a 1000 bucks, not only would she find herself with her phone in a doggy bag but her next phone she would be paying for with her own money.
I get 1500 text messages with my plan. I used 6 last month. I never saw the need for 1500. I can't even imaging 6000+.
My isp sucks worse than yours. I have to use hughes net over satellite. The laws of physics demand that I have a min ping time of 500ms.
Hard to fight "the man" from a cardboard box.
Wow! An I thought I was one with apathy. But, you know, he has a point. I had a home phone with the number in the book. All I got was shit from telemarketers, shit on the answering machine. Sure the donot call list cut out a shit load of it but then people started calling that thought they had a business relationship with them. Finally I just pulled the plug on the damn thing and went with my cell phone. My motto is if you don't know my cell phone number I don't want to talk to you.
Same way I guess with my public email address. Sure I have spam filters from hell, gets 98% of the shit I guess. Still there is at least half a dozen peices of shit in there every other day. Maintaining spam filters is a bitch but I do it. A couple hours at least a month if I add it all up.
Then the spam still gets dumped into a junk folder and I have to sort though that at least once a week, more often if I'm expecting something important.
Fuck It! I'm deleting the fucker when I get home. You want to get in contact with me, I hope you have my cell phone.
There is nothing wrong with character developement. There is something wrong with useless and irrevelent character developement. There is also something wrong with character development that doesn't advance the plot line or over developing characters.
The ideal behind the show is lost tribe, ass kicked by cylon, off to find earth. Not drunk ass tigh under a cot, father and son bullshit that takes up more than 15 mins a season that is not important to the plot. Seeing Starbuck want to get into apollo's pants, cute, for 5 mins once. After that nobody gives a shit.
Can we have an a fucking men here? I don't care about adamn and his fucked up son father son bullshit. I give less than a rats ass about said son/jackass's death wish. Kill the fucker off and lets get on with it. If tigh wants to drink himself into a stooper more power to him, just do it off screen.
I give so little a fuck about the characters personl problems. Blow more fucking shit up, find more shit, and get on the fucking road to earth. The rest is just bullshit!
You people are forgetting the most obvious conclusion to the series. I came to this right after the pilot movies.
You see, kobal wasn't the home of the human race. It was a planet colonized by seeder ships from Earth thousands of years ago. We'll call humans from Earth humans 1.0 and the seeded humans, humans 2.0. Well humans 2.0 build a civilization apart from human 1.0 on Earth. Mean while humans 1.0 are carefully watching over humans 2.0 from a distance. When human 2.0 are threatened by a natural disaster humans 1.0 guide human 2.0 to safety at the new colonies. This is where the names of the ancient gods came into play.
During all this or before this the humans on Earth, humans 1.0, underwent a vorlon like transformation and became humans 3.0. Now the new humans 3.0 decided that after they had lead humans 2.0 to safety it was time for human 2.0 to live on their own. So humans 3.0 left humans 2.0 to fend for themselves.
Now when human 2.0 reach Earth followed by the Cylons they will find a civilization so far in advanced that they can barely comprehend them. Humans 3.0 will simply tell them there is nothing for them at Earth and they cannot interfere in their affaires. They will send humans 2.0 to their fate.
As for the thirteenth tribe, they didn't go discover Earth, they just went home.