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"Jericho" Fans Send Over Nine Tons of Nuts to CBS
nuts-to-CBS writes "After presenting 'Jericho' fans with a cliffhanging season finale, CBS promptly cancelled the program. The shocked fans quickly banded together, many using CBS' own public "Jericho" discussion forum, and began brainstorming on ways to convince the network to bring back the show for a second season. A plot point in the final episode of "Jericho" involving the expletive "Nuts!" (in reference to an historic conversation between generals) was turned into a campaign to send large quantities of nuts to CBS' NY, LA, and affiliate offices. Fans have sent a total of $26,000 for a pooled campaign hosted at Nuts Online to ship over 19,000 pounds of peanuts to CBS.
Other efforts acquired over $9,000 to publish full page advertisements in
Variety (National Edition)
and The Hollywood Reporter for Tuesday, May 29th. This is expected to become the largest ever fan campaign to bring a television show back from cancellation." There's more about the massive fan rollout below.
CBS created rich, interactive content online to accompany their show "Jericho," in order to extend its fan base
to the Internet-savvy, TiVo-owning generations. Despite suffering through the all-too-familiar mid-season
hiatus employed by many shows, the "Jericho" fan base remained strong throughout the break, partially due to the episodes being posted both for free on the CBS site as well as for purchase on iTunes. "Jericho" returned from the hiatus in the same timeslot occupied by "American Idol." CBS — which apparently still
determines programming primarily on Nielsen ratings — decided to drop the show, regardless of the ever-growing
and loyal fan base. Nuts Online includes live blogging from Jeffrey Braverman, the
company's 26-year old CEO. Jeffrey's company has been shipping up to 5,000 pounds of peanuts a day to the CBS New
York headquarters, and has been using their site to describe his experience along the way. Three other fan sites are documenting the progress:
CBS Jericho Message Board,
Jericho Lives, and
Jericho Rally Point. Fans of Roswell were successful in bringing back their favorite program by sending mass quantities of
tiny bottles of Tabasco sauce."
First off, I'm sure that the people at CBS are enjoying the free lifetime supply of tasty peanuts. Hopefully they'll send back a thank-you card. Maybe one of those new Star Wars Hallmark cards. (After all, it's the least they can do.)
That being said, Jericho went off the air because the show took a wrong turn at Albuquerque. When it first started, the premise was intriguing. A post-holocaust world from the perspective of those who have no idea what could possibly be going on. It makes for a great setup. The first few episodes were even fairly good, with the early problems from the detonation wreaking all kinds of havoc. After that? Things went downhill.
Pretty soon the show was focusing more on love triangles than it was on the fact that everyone was just trying to survive. Emergencies were regularly forced into the story rather than the characters having to deal with realistic difficulties. There was so much that they could be exploring, yet the show was being "the O.C. after the bomb". (Or whatever the latest "pop" show is for stupid teenagers. Anyone remember that scene from Stargate-SG1 "200"? Yeah, that.)
As interesting as it had been, I just lost interest in the show. Checking my iTunes library, it looks like I stopped at "The Day Before". 13 episodes watched, and I just couldn't stand it anymore. So is it really any surprise that Jericho got cancelled?
I realize that many fans are begging for a conclusion to the cliffhanger, but that will pass with time. Remember the show Sliders? Remember how it died in the 5th season with both the main characters wiped out, Wade killed off in a twisted experiment, the reason for sliding gone, and a hokey story about a mad scientist stuck its the place? The show lost its purpose, yet the producers ended the season with a massive cliffhanger in hopes that fan outcry would bring the show back. And after watching the final episode, you do get a feeling of, "You can't leave it there!"
But in hindsight, it's best that it stayed off the air. There was about a zero point zero zero chance that the O'Connell brothers were going to return to the show, and the writing had been of poor quality anyway. If the show had returned, we would have gotten another season of the show's slow and agonizing death. Why? It was best that it was put out of its misery.
(Of course, the show "jumped the shark" in the third season with the loss of John Rhys-Davies, but at least the "finding Earth" and "looking for Ma and Pa" subplot was interesting.)
So I'm sorry to say this, but let it die. It was a nice try, but hopefully a better show will take its place.
Seriously.
occultae nullus est respectus musicae - originally a Greek proverb
This is expected to become the largest ever fan campaign to bring a television show back from cancellation.
Stop me when I've mentioned a fan campaign you've actually heard of. Like the campaign to get the third season of the original Star Trek. Or the one that got a Space Shuttle renamed. Or all those DVDs that got Family Guy back in regular episodes and Futurama in direct-to-DVD movies. Or the ridiculous amount of money Save Enterprise raised that threatened to make the fifth season purely on fan money (which, of course, led to all the controversy, but eh).
TV shows get cancelled. Millions are outraged. Then millions forget until Fox screws up the next show.
Wait, CBS you say? Weird. The token /. response doesn't work here. I think teh slash-verse is going to assplode!
Did you know peanuts are actually completely deadly, quite contrary to their more mainstream position as being considered an edible and tasty snack/spread/ingredient?
It's a TV show. Get over it. They cancelled Firefly, now Jericho is gone. As an alternative, these people should consider:
1) Going to the gym
2) Taking a loved one out to dinner
3) Taking up art
4) Relaxing with friends over the internet
5) Fixing some of those pesky things around the house
6) Getting a dog for companionship instead of a television
7) Volunteering for experiments on drugs to treat obsessive compulsive disorder
8) Going for a walk in the woods and experiencing nature
9) Getting a tan
There are so many other things to do in life that worry about a man soap opera.
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He found a way to make a buck out of a canceled show. My hats off to him.
I wonder if I use bold in my signature, people will notice my posts.
Seriously, I wonder...maybe that would be a better use than bringing back a freakin' network TV show. Our culture is soo narcissistic and self-centered. Don't mod this down...leave it alone at the most, but what I'm writing is unavoidably true.
I'm sorry but the campaign to save the StarTrek Enterprise series for a 5th year was far larger. This quick search garnered a BBC News story showing over 3million US raised and if my memory serves correctly the fans were close to 20 million before being told that there was no way ?paramount? would run another series without an industry backer. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4312767.s tm
Jericho had fans?
They will be donated to City Harvest, a New York-based program that takes excess food and distributes it to community food programs for the poor, according to Phil Gonzales, a CBS spokesman. Some of the nuts are also on their way to troops in Iraq and Afghanistan through the Staten Island Homefront Project.
On one side, I think: The collaborative force that the Internet empowers is astounding... really, nothing like it in human history. Yet, I think of the world as a whole, with all our energy problems and even food supply problems in various parts of the world, I think: Human beings are fucked up! Nobody is giving up any money for alternative fuel research or public transportation. But, how many thousands of people will pay money to send food-stuffs to a producer of meaningless television entertainment? Do these people vote?
...it was "Nuts!" and not "Crap!"
and i would feel very different about this if Jericho was some form of high art or something that uplifts the human spirit or culture...that is also a good use of resources...but it isn't. It's a shitty tv show that people are mindlessly addicted to, just most of the rest of shit on tv.
This is a thinly veiled biological attack made by terrorists.
The producers of Jericho are allergic to peanuts!
Wow. Thousands of Americans are dying in a foreign war that by all accounts we are not doing well in, and the opposition party is much less concerned with fixing the problem than making political hay. Our health care system is a shambles. A major American city is also still in shambles more than a year after an enormous natural disaster.
After all that, what makes Americans stand up and say "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" but a canceled television show.
My fellow citizens, and all you others, I fear that this may be a grave sign of the failure of the American Experiment.
"This is expected to become the largest ever fan campaign to bring a television show back from cancellation."
I've never seen Jericho, and I bet the series is great, (I just watch very little TV nowadays) but
This makes me wonder how this will compare to the "save farscape" media frenzy that lots and lots of 'scapers took action to get Sci-Fi's rectal-cranial inversion syndrome diagnosed, and cured. It was on CNN Headline News for chrissakes!
All in all, I'll probally check out Jericho now. Good luck to all the Jericho fans, I hope you get your show back.
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Talk to me in 3.5 years and lets see if Jericho is still in the top 100 of amazon sales.
I enjoyed the show, but I feel okay that it ended where it did. The so-called cliffhanger pretty well summed up the whole spirit of the show: stuff's really messed up, some people will descend into savagery, but others will hang together and try to keep things soldiering on. Sure, if they did decide to bring it back, we might learn how that final battle would have ended, but where to from there? Better to end on something of a high point* than to fizzle through a second, lackluster season.
*I say something of a high point because upon reviewing, it's clear how much better the early episodes were compared to the later ones. The more we learned about the bombs and the plot behind them, the less interesting the whole story became.
Okay, you got me for not R-ingTFA (I wrote the bit about feeding the poor), but what I imagined was the case isn't unbelievable this day and age.
Personally, I think the uproar would have been greater if American Idol was pushed off by any other TV show.
CBS just went with the bigger crowd. Live with it.
Peanuts aren't nuts.
Watered-down - If a show is good, and gets good ratings, TPTB will require more seasons to be produced, than can be reasonably sustained at the same quality of the current story arc.
Word-of-Mouth - If a show is good, but gets so-so ratings in the begining, TPTB will cancel it before word of mouth can have an effect.
Sabotage - If any show is sabotaged by TPTB then there is no saving it. Examples are playing episodes out or order, or postponing the 2-hour premiere that introduces all the characters, to air as the season finale.
...isn't that CBS cancelled the show, but that it's being axed to make room for New Insipid Reality Show #462 and "Ooh! Pirates!"
The "Tiffany Network," eh?
Sam! If you will let me be,
I will try them.
You will see.
On the other hand - one series that I'm missing is Max Headroom, it's dark, it's about a near future and it's all about money, media companies, viewer figures and shady affairs. (Sounds familiar?)
It may be time to pick up the show again - the old episodes are a little outdated; no internet, no flat-screen TV:s etc.
But on the other hand RIAA and MPAA may not want to see this...
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
Jericho was a steaming pile of crap. Annoying characters, the worst dialog since Titanic, And don't even get me started on that music. Anyone joining a campaign to save it needs to have their head checked.
The will of the people hasn't been lost, it's been hijacked. How's that for irony?
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Where were you people when they took The Dating Game off the air?
What?
"Carnivale"
If there was ever a show crying out for uncancellation, HBO's Carnivale was it. Wish we'd come up with some gimmick like this. And, please, no nonsense about "it was the show's time to go" with this one. The final episode set up all kinds of fascinating places to explore, with the whole series maintaining interest throughout. The writers had four more seasons planned. That was one that got killed in its prime!
Shiny! I'm sure we can do _at_least_ 20,000 pounds of Ramen to whatever gorram executive cancelled our show.
Parent is right. And this is no ordinary "don't you have better things to do with your time/money" troll. It's not like it's that much more effort to send food to the needy via a charity. After all, it is only a TV show...
You know, there is a difference between trolling and pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. Just saying.
Brigadier General Anthony McAuliffe was the acting commander of the 101st Airborne Division in the Battle of Bastongne during the Battle of the Bulge. The 101st was surrounded, outnumbered, and unable to get resupply by air. When Axis forces demanded their surrender, McAuliffe's one-word response was "Nuts."
Obviously, after sixty years, this necessarily led to trying to save a canceled show with peanuts.
I for one welcome our new nutty.... Forget it.
Brilliant world.
They're using their grammar skills there.
Since the show dealt with terrorists, maybe this is a massive attack against all of the people at CBS that are allergic to peanuts.
(Simpsons)"BOMBARDMENT! BOMBARDMENT! BOMBARDMENT!"(/Simpsons)
I think I've been exposed to too many Amnesty International announcements at my school, but I have to ask...are those nuts fair-trade nuts or free-trade nuts?
DRM 'manages access' in the same way that a prison 'manages freedom'
Hey.... It IS TV... What? You still watch that analog stuff? Grow up will you? (Yeah you got me. I never even heard of it)
A tadpole is a pollywog
Peanuts are legumes!
:(
The TV industry will never take us seriously now.
Holland style? I would hope not, as Holland doesn't get any hurricanes. That's a good thing too, because we'd be well and truly fucked if we did.
fire the writers and hire some technical advisers who know what they fuck would actually happen then bring the show back.
It's a far better look at what could happen if the bomb dropped - none of this watered down drivel.
Alternately, Jeremiah was also a far better written post-apoc series, though it's a lot more fantastical.
rally late in the game gathering $32,000 to send 12 tons of scrap metal to the doors of Fox Studios roughly resembling a sculpture of Jane.
No sig for you! Come back one year!
Your entire comment does not have to be a two line long hyperlink.
I think this sums it all :
No second season? CBS are going nuts!
Read and Comment at my BLOG
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Isn't this a scam just to push nuts from this website? Aren't the guys running the whole 'lets sent nuts to CBS' the owners of this nutsonline website?
Some people say we're vapid. (:
Good old American values!
Quack, quack.
I think you have a better chance looking here to find closure than waiting for a network to revive it.
Blame the producers. They must have know they were on the skids; instead of facing it and wrapping it up they leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth with an unresolved cliffhanger. Personally I've never seen it; it was on my list of things to watch when the DVD was available, but now, knowing that it's cut short, I won't bother at all.
In the Old days of the Republic, we could have sent a thousand nuts to a thousand execs to have them obey our slightest whims...
...Go out and buy the DVDs. It wasn't sending massive amounts of food to Fox that resulted in Serenity being made, it was the phenomenal DVD sales that made the network realize that they were missing out on a ton of money. If Jericho DVD sales doubled overnight, you can bet that CBS would at least order a direct to DVD movie to tie up loose ends, but 9 tons of peanuts simply isn't worth that much to them.
I'll go one step further and say what needs to be said here.
Fuck Jericho.
Interesting premise?
yes
Interesting execution?
Not from the first fucking episode.
Friends of mine were obsessed with Jericho, but jesus, Jericho's writers couldnt write drama for shit.
Not even deaf meghan could save it for me, and she's fucking awesome.
'OMG, the world is coming to an end! but wait, you know what's even more interesting? bland interpersonal drama and bullshit quasi-moralistic plotlines and the melodramitcist of all melodramatic skeet ulrich performances!'
Dont care... dont care... *DONT* *CARE*
Fuck Jericho. With so much *decent* television on, its no wonder that CBS decided to pull a fox and replace a lackluster, if rabidly followed and obsessed over by its 3 fans, serial drama with a REALITY SHOW ABOUT CHILDREN BEING LEFT TO RUN A TOWN BY THEMSELVES. Yes, Jericho got replaced with Lord of The Flies 2: Electric Booglaloo: Lord of The Flies Reality TV.
Yes, this is flamebait.
Yes, I'm an asshole.
But,
No, I'm not wrong.
Fuck Jericho.
Shomer-FUCKING-shabbas!
Come read my stupid blagablog. Rants and Giggles
Does anyone have any idea what would happen if Soviet Russia were to cancel a television show?
on the other side there is a lot more and better series that were recently canceled (bsg only gets one more season, whimp, cry) -- anyway, a 'feelgood' post nucklear drama where people are sitting at a caffee drinking cappuchino a few weeks after the bombs have fallen is probably not what the audience expects. Though I must say that it wastly improves towards the end of the season. Could it be that CBS canceled the show based on the reception it got at the begining, because to be honest, it did really suck then.
So how long until a homeless guy who is allergic to peanuts sues CBS?
Wouldn't it be better for all the people that watched the show, if they're truely that upset, to just not watch that network anymore? I would think losing number of the people that watch your network because the show they liked was no longer being played would make more of an impact than sending some nuts to the corporate office.
"It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." -Albert Einstein
Oh, and I mean the ones by CBS because a guy in the mail room is allergic to peanuts and the packages weren't clearly marked. That first one is legit.
The second one will be from twelve of the the mail clerk's friends who will claim mental anguish over the loss of companionship of their co-worker, then the vet bills for one of the the suing-co-worker's twin siamese cats who are out of sorts from the stress of the lawsuit... lathter rinse, repeat...
Hey, if Josh Hancock's dad can sue the driver of the disabled car and the tow truck that Hancock hit in a drunken stupor, this isn't too far off.
"Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
NUTS to CBS...bring back Jericho www.nutsonline.com www.jericholives.com
In Soviet-Russia television kills you!
--- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..
Totally not meant to troll (own opinion); I still do wonder myself why it is more possible for people to protest for television shows and not against their current way of their government deals with them. Is television so much important next to privacy and environment?
Such actions against the government would for sure wake up -some- sleeping animals and would for sure also attract the attention of a lot more people because of the media. I call such action "thrown away" only to get back a television show while it could be lots bigger than that. OK; great for them fans, but, couldn't that amount of money be spend more wisely to protect eachothers lives and interests on a way higher level?
--- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..
I have read the many comments regarding those of us who have contributed money to this "campaign." Many feel that the money could have gone to much more worthy causes. The good thing is that CBS is donating the nuts to homeless shelters in New York City, so the money spent is, indirectly, going to something "worthwhile."
For me, this is not just about bringing back one canceled show that I happened to really enjoy. It is more about making a personal statement about my upset with the entertainment industry. The second that a project appears to be generating less revenue for the mother ship, it gets tossed out like so much other cosmic debris. I just can't take being treated like this any more.
Finally, what I find insulting, they filled Jericho's time slot with a reality show called "Kid Nation." Ouch.
Kung pow> Thats a lot of nuts! http://kungpownuts.ytmnd.com/
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To all the haters, we get your point. I would remind each of you however that many years ago a letter writing campaign saved a show called Star Trek and got it two more seasons. Back then, that was unheard of but today campaigns of this nature (Save Jericho) and size are also unheard of. I'd like to remind the posters here that were it not for shows like Star Trek, a lot of our technological comforts might not exist today. Star Trek caused people to think about the technology involved and inspired generations of fans to create, explore and experiment with new technologies.
In a very loose comparison, Jericho has also caused many people to stop and think. In a world that is often times uncertain, Jericho took us away from our usual worries and got us to examine ourselves a little more closely.
In a world gone completely mad, the residents of Jericho struggled to keep their humanity about them. What would any of us do in the same situation? The show challenged us to think about just such a possibility. I grew up in the Cold War era and I remember a movie called The Day After. Back then, we had to think about a full out Nuclear War. Today we have to think about dirty bombs. Not much difference is there?
So, while you may hate the fans of this show for trying to save it, remember that a movement like this can show what's best about humanity because we have pulled together people from all over the free world and united them in one common voice. We've done it faster than anyone ever has and in larger numbers as well. CBS wanted to reach the 18-49 market and with new delivery methods like the Internet. They did reach us, but failed to recognize it and canceled our show. Now, we will fight to get it back and no ammount of criticism will impede us from finishing what we started. Keep hating our movement if you must, but we'll keep on truckin'.
20,000lbs of nuts, an ad in Variety and The Hollywood Insider, articles in the NYT, ABCnews.com, E!, syfiportal and countless local media outlets have been the first wave of our voices being heard. We know that they are being heard b/c the cBS execs have failed to strike the sets and have stopped returning the rented props for the show. Thanks to slashdot for helping us get the word out.
If you are interested in seeing what the show is about go to cbs.com\jericho and watch the episodes. If you lost interest in the middle of the season, go watch the second helf...it was really good. The love triangle is just a natural part of humantiy in a situation like that and was a part of the show...like it or not. It is resolved, and they move on in the second part of the season.
Save Jericho
NUTS to cBS
Thanks to nutsonline.com
jerichorallypoint.com
Shaun O'Mac and his radio show
and countless others who are working tirelessly to coordinate our campaign.
Joint the fight...it's not too late.
but now I really want some freakin peanuts!
I've never watched the show, never had even heard of it, and maybe the NutsOnline guys hadn't either.. but at least they're making money like never before.. I'm left with a major craving for peanuts. Half tempted to order from NutsOnline myself and see if they're even any good (assuming I'll get the order before the end of the year).
Hm.
I, for one, am going to be backing these guys. I agree with everything one of the PPs said. This show got lame in a big hurry. Good premise, too much kissing. That being said, I think sticking it to CBS is a great idea.
It's not that a TV show is more important in the grand scheme of things, but as a prefered form of entertainment which has a weekly impact on these people it really does affect them more.
Trying to put it in perspective:
1. If statistics are correct, most of the people who watch that show haven't flown on a commercial airline in the last year. Almost 1% of their waking time every week is spent watching the show. The show has higher priority simply because of the promenent spot it occupies in their life. If they flew once a month or more frequently, they'd probably be more interested in what the TSA is up to.
2. $26,000 is nothing. Oh, it's a noticable gesture, but it has no real impact in the world of politics, or desease research, or world hunger. I recently learned that it costs about $300,000/yr to even get a sniff at hiring a lobbiest to fight for your cause in Washington. Most foodbanks have effective budgets in the millions/yr. Treating AIDS can easily cost over $12k/yr/person for just the drugs. The war in Iraq is burning through about $2200 per second.
Do I think this is a good way to spend $26,000? Not really, though if it gets the series back for those who really like it it's a good idea for them. We spend a lot of money on frivilous things; this just happens to be a frivilous thing which a lot of people agree on, and it's getting some press. It's really not that big a deal in the grand scheme.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Right now this campaign is being waged by people who just happened to be the biggest posters on the Jericho message board. Trekkies had access to 1)people who know how to make money 2)people who were experienced PR people, advertisers, and marketers 3)people who used spellcheck The Jericho bunch has a chance to get it together. They have branded themselves well with the nuts. I don't think they will come anywhere near Star Trek's 3 million, but I think over 100,000 is a possibility. for a CBS show, that's pretty good ;-)
OK, the 1970s was known as the sexual revolution but I have a lot of arguments about this craziness. First, the demographics CBS is trying to reach by canceling Jericho - most weren't even born in the '70s yet! I was born in the early 70s and there is no way I could've been involved in any type of sexual revolution at the time!
Um... you could be a product of it
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I agree with you. Jericho was one of the only shows on tv I could actually watch with my family. I am sick of reality shows and the mindless fluff the networks want me to watch. Finally, we had an action-packed, thought-provoking drama. I loved the show, love the characters and feel that we are being cheated by this cancellation. The network put it on the airs, got me interested and watching then they pull the plug. The show did better in the ratings than many others that actually were renewed for another season. I think this campaign gives tv viewers an ideal place to make their voices heard. We have had enough. We want our show back. I think the people taking part in this are terrific. To those who see this as a waste of time, please go save the world on the 'politics' section. Oh, and by the way, Fighting for a tv show does not stop you from fighting for more 'worthwhile' causes.
Give the people what they want! They want Jericho! Some guys have their computers, we have Jericho! Let's all just get along
Damn, I wish this post could have been higher in the thread, but here it is anyway.
This is why I hope that on-demand programming over the Internet, using services such as iTunes or something similar, eventually takes off. To do away with the networks completely.
Think about it. What if Jericho wasn't beholden to the networks to decide their fate? What if instead of sending peanuts to CBS, you could donate a few bucks to the show's production company instead? If you're a loyal viewer of the show, would you be willing to pay $2 an episode, or $30-$40 bucks for an entire second season of it? I know that for the shows I like, I sure would, especially if I didn't have that stupid cable/satellite bill to pay (which I don't any more, incidentally.
Wouldn't it be nice if whether or not you watch Jericho did not depend on if CBS wanted to put another Dancing with the Stars clone on in its time slot? With on-demand payment and viewing, you can have an infinite number of time slots, and whether or not a show gets picked up and/or renewed would depend entirely on whether or not the viewers of that show were willing to directly support it financially.
This would also have a great impact on the quality of programming, too. For one thing, with big corporate advertising sponsors out of the picture (or at least, relegated to minor financial support instead), shows' creators would have complete artistic freedom over their shows. If they want to take on a controversial subject, as long as people are willing to pay to see it, they could have at it. If they wanted to appeal to a niche audience, as long as people are willing to pay to see it, they could have at it. You get the idea.
Personally, I never cared for Jericho. But hey, if you and enough other people do, then by all means, it shouldn't be killed just because millions of people aren't watching it on CBS.
I cannot agree more. I was interested for the first 10 episodes. There were a couple good story lines to run with. It seems like there have been a few shows on network television like this in the past three years...and the writers pick the WRONG storylines to run with...what the heck!!
Who is making these decisions? Remember those two or three 'alien' shows? They had some promising development, and then they fell flat...
I think there just aren't enough good writers to go around...
Again: what a waste of food. The donation to City Harvest is great, though.
(And I know I'm gonna be modded flamebait for not Supporting The Troops(tm), but I'm not gonna censor myself because of that.)
butter the donkey
"He found a way to make a buck out of a canceled show. My hats off to him."
You manage to wear more than one hat at a time?
He who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.
Remember the cliffhanger from the season 2 finale of Weeds? Maybe Showtime will cancel Weeds to see what the fans will send in....
Well stated. Jericho is a quality tv program that every member of my family enjoys. I think that the writers do a fantastic job including story lines that would appeal to every member of our family. Our family of 7 (ages 42 to 10) is proud to support the Save Jericho campaign. We decided that this quality program was worth investing our time into. I get up a little earlier and go to bed a little later writing emails and snail mail, we call and yes we have ordered nuts also. For my family this show is wonderful entertainment. We monitor what is viewed by our children and not once during any episonde did I have to cringe and turn off the TV due to language or content. Jericho is an interesting and entertaining program that we would like to see back on the fall schedule.
If you were e real Browncoat you'd know it was spelled Jayne.
The battle to save jericho is more than just trying to keep a great show on the air. It is also an attempt to get the major networks to adapt to the realities of "new media." Due to high production costs, only broadcast TV has the resources to create high-quality, serial dramas, yet the networks still see enamored by the lower costs of reality TV. Of course, the web has the competitive advantage when it comes to producing "reality-based" programming. Networks will continue to hemorrhage viewers until they focus on their strengths and leave the "reality" shows to people who still have some sense of what reality is. Therefore, the fight to save Jericho is really a fight to save CBS from itself.
If you are a fan, we need you to get involved - ASAP
I hate television. I hate it as much as I hate peanuts. But I can't stop eating peanuts. - Orson Welles
That money could have been donated to charities for the poor and hungry. I'm glad these people feel a TV show is more important then human lives.
People need to get their priorities straight.
Chosen one: I'll take a pound of nuts. Shopkeeper: *yelling* That's a lot of nuts! That'll be four bucks, baby! You want fries with that?!?
A little advice. Once the upfronts happen you're going to need a miracle to get on the schedule. I'm not saying it's never happened, but the size of you're campaign isn't unprecedented. Roswell fans raised over $25k in one fundraiser and donated the money to help fight hunger in the name of the show. Part of their success what because they got the show and cast to donate things to the fundraiser because it was for charity. Also, fans usually had more than one save-our-show campaign a year and those smaller onces dealt with buying ads in Variety. So you may or may not have the largest campaign to date, but the size is definitely not "unheard of."
I liked Jericho so I'm not tried to say that you should give up. Just a bit of caution not to rest on your achievements. Also remember, it's not about the press or popularity, it's about the profit to the network and studio. Does anything in this campaign tell them that they are going to or can make more money next year (or sellabled items)?
If you're talking about putting a show on the scant and expen^H^H^H^H^H scarce air waves, sure let it die.
But if you're talking about keeping the show going for their audience, "Nuts" to you.
They could run a podcast production, and distribute it that way too, until there's not enough people interested in doing it anymore; until there's not enough fans writing new episodes etcetera.
Just because it can't compete for the expen^H^H^H^H^H scarce air waves, doesn't mean it can't survive on another medium.
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Pam wakes up from a fitful sleep, goes into the bathroom and opens the shower door, and Bobby steps out. It turns out that it was all a dream and they're back in Dallas together again.
Money was originally budgeted and a Holland-style flooding protection system was started in New Orleans back in the late 1970s. The reason it was never completed has nothing to do with government incompetence, corruption, or the Army Corps of Engineers. It was never completed because the crazy psycho environmentalists kept suing the government over the project, and after a couple of hundred lawsuits, the budget was GONE, and the project was cancelled!!!
I have been reading many of the comments over the Jericho issue the last week and, not that I am not singling you out specifically as you comments are somewhat benign, but I feel I must add my thoughts to the issue. It seems many feel Jericho should be cancelled because they do not like it. Surely this is the wrong reason. I own the DVD of Sliders, Stargate SG1 and Atlantis, Lone Gunmen, Harsh Realm, Outer Limits, Dead Like Me, Firefly, Deep Space 9 ... and the list continues. I obviously have a preference for certain story lines. My daughter and I have similar tastes, but some of the shows she likes ... well I would sooner have my teeth removed. I am sure the same is true for her on some shows I watch.
In many of these series the stories weakened and they eventually disappeared, but for the most part I faithfully watched them and held out hope they would improve. Ironically StarGate SG1 was one of those shows I hated during the first, fifth and ninth seasons, but eventually I found the story improved making the wait worth while. You mention Sliders, I can't stand it, any season, but my daughter likes it. I hated Enterprise when it started, and my daughter loved it; by the end of the forth season when it was cancelled I was a regular and she was on itunes.
My wife thinks both my daughter and I are crazy. She like American Idol, and Dancing with the Stars, but hates so you think you can dance. I only watch these shows with her when forced to do so. Ironically none of us have ever felt a need to publically criticize the other's taste in entertainment. For a fact we help each other see our favorite shows.
So it was with Jericho, my daughter and I have both taken an interest in the show. The characters presented are like my neighbors. Yes my neighbors can be boring, but surprising when place in difficult situations. People tend to look for emotional support during crisis times, love triangles are not unreasonable even if you do not like them. Having characters that are "normal" is so far from the daily TV that has presented to us over the last 30 years, it is not surprising many individuals lost interest. It is hard to compare the Jericho characters to the likes of those portrayed on WKRP, Cheers, Friends, Seinfeld, or the drama of the Survivor Outhouse series, CSI everywhere, and Law and Order.
I like shows that when I am done viewing them, my imagination is stimulated. Usually I prefer shows not too close to reality. It was a surprise to me when Jericho hit my list of shows to watch. The events Jericho portrays could happen and that disturbs me. Jericho's portrayal of the bombings is no more unreasonable than the Lone Gunmen's portrayal of a plane flying into the world trade center months before it actually happened. Good people in the story die, some individuals abuse power, and it is up to the average person to set things right again. This sound like life to me. For some viewers this story line was boring, the actors sucked, the writing was weak, or it was too disturbing, but for 8 million viewers it is the right story to watch.
Because of the conflict of scheduling at CBS and my personal activities I was unable to watch Jericho when it was aired, so my daughter recorded it. Before Jericho was cancelled, several of my friends said they stopped watching it because they wanted to see and record American Idol more. They asked to borrow my recordings so they could catch up. I say this does not sound like a show that lost huge support, but one that died because it was not strong enough to gain support when pitted against one of the strongest shows on TV. This schedule was really unfair to the writers actors and viewers of the show. The time slot along with the season splitting doomed the show and those of us who viewed Jericho know this and that is why CBS is in our bad books.
You might be right, and a second season may perform worse than the first, but without the chance to prove itself we will never know. This is a dra
They won't get what they want with the TV show either.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
...for them to give Drive a fair shake? Cell phones or car keys?
What sound do people on rollercoasters make? Hint: it's not Xbox 360.
Why are people surprised by this? CBS is a business people - it makes it's money not by producing quality, but by producing shows that people will watch and advertisers thus be induced to buy commercials during. If American TV is crap - it's not because of an evil plot by the networks to produce crap, it's because the American public laps it up in such vast quantities. (And there is not a doubt in my mind that had Jericho even middling ratings - those numbers they now mock would instead be Exhibit A in their campaign. People are like that)
Note: This is not to say Jericho wasn't crap - it was, and derivative crap at that.
Thankfully, most of the folks fighting for Jericho are not quitters. Jericho is just a television show. Everyone watches television....we just want to watch something that entertains us. We don't want to be spoonfed crap reality tv. I am tired of seeing shows about doctors and lawyers banging each other. I am tired of watching 6 different versions of CSI or Law and Order. I pay for cable, I would like there to be something that makes you anticipate next week's episode.....without it being about who is banging who. Your grandparents grew up and were entertained by serial dramas on the radio......we just want a decent serial drama in our lives. Lost is fine.....but we liked JERICHO and we are fighting for it. If you are satisfied with bashing people on a website....great, more power to you. We, though, are joining together to try and achieve a change. Sit back and snipe from your computer.....or be a part of something. http://nutsonline.com/jericho
24 hour news cycles. Cameras everywhere, ready to roll on a story. Cable TV. That show was more predictive than any futuristic/sci-fi serial I can think of off the top of my head.
If you're up for a weekend of watching the present of news being predicted in the past, watch a bunch of Max Headroom followed by 1976's Network, an excellent, excellent movie.
I note quite a few folks don't get what it is all about. Let me say this: The effort to get Jericho renewed is about far more than just a show. It was just the trigger. If you don't like or appreciate Jericho, that is fine and is your right. Frankly I am glad we don't all have the same taste in things or the world might be rather boring. But consider this: What if it were your favorite show? What if you had strong convictions about the values (or lack of them) in a show that motivated you to watch it? What if a network mismeasured the fan base and arbitrarily canceled that show? If enough of you cared - would you do something about it - especially if you discerned a repeated bias of the network against the very programming you enjoyed? Many say "it's just a TV show". Well of course you are right. A number have indicated that the time spent in character development in the show was a waste of time (my summary of comments). For those that feel that way you probably would not enjoy reading a classic such as Les Miserables which spends hundreds of pages just giving background information on the characters. However, just as you have the right to not like a book (or a TV show) that does that, you should also respect that there are others who do enjoy such story development. So if it is just a show, why protest? Well, becasue we can. We do not have to accept big brother telling us what we would like to watch. In this case CBS themselves provided the social networking tools that hooked us in the first place and we are just using those same tools (and more) to provide the best customer feedback that we can. If it were your favorite show I would think and I would hope you might care enough to do the same. In the mean time, even if you do not agree with our taste in shows, I would hope you could appreicate the fact that we are not sitting back and just taking what big brother has to dish out. Next time it might be your show, or your rights taken away, or your (fill in your pet subject). I would be right there cheering you along!
While I will admit that Star Trek has inspired numerous engineers to not only enter the profession but to also try and come up with the some of the gee-whiz gadgets that they have seen on the show, I wouldn't give the show credit for all of the creature comforts that we enjoy today. Just as I wouldn't claim that NASA is responsible for spin-off technology like Velcro, Teflon, and integrated circuits. All were developed and even sold commercially prior to their use by NASA.
One of the real issues with the original TV series of Star Trek was that the network was missing completely the demographic group of 18-40 year olds, who made up the bulk of the original Star Trek audience. It was a case of NBC (in the case of Star Trek) relying on lousy marketing information and a huge failure to market the advertising to those companies who perhaps would have even paid a premium rate for advertising on that particular television show. If the current Nielson rating system were in place in the late 1960's, Star Trek would have been the highest rated television show of the era and perhaps even of all time.
Now the question in regards to Jericho is if this is also the case. I would argue that CBS isn't mis-managing the marketing of this particular television series, but that is a valid argument to make that would also make some sense to the executives of the entertainment division of CBS. The goal here is to convince the management of CBS that they should continue the series not because a bunch of nut cases that deserve long term mental health services have raised a stink about the cancellation, but because they are missing a golden opportunity to market their advertising to a group of companies they haven't considered before.
If you can make this case, I promise you that you will see Jericho on the air next year. I just don't think that case can be made. Prove me wrong, please.
Hmm, I wonder which is going to win? I don't know if there's a show on Earth, especially serialized that can compete with the American Idol crazyness. CBS is just stupid for putting it up against that and expecting it to do very well. It still did pretty good considering that fact! Visit: http://www.savejericho.info/ for more!
Finish the Fight!
..I hate American TV and TV in general. You get a good story started that people love and then the channel cancels the show and the story is never finished(not saying this applies to Jericho, but in general).
I suppose that's why I mostly watch anime. The shows rarely get canceled in the middle of a story so you get to enjoy it to the end. Of course, it helps that the shows are planned so that the story gets told fully instead of being dragged out season after season(exception apply). I wish more shows were done like that. "Here's the plot and here's how it'll end. We'll need 12 episodes to tell the story and that's it."
corporations can afford a lot of peanuts.
Quack, quack.
CBS is counting its blessings that the thread didn't include the expletive: "Bullsh*t!"
Have gnu, will travel.
Until someone considers it a terroristic threat because they are allergic to nuts. You know someone will twist it around...
Ghost Chimp, M.D.
No, but why shouldn't it be? What exactly is your problem with a two line hyperlink?
I invite them and everyone else to come and help fight for Opie and Anthony on XM satellite radio, where they were suspended for 30 days, and perhaps fired, for a homeless man saying he would fuck condy rice and beat her up. XM is a pay service much like HBO, whoever they decided to start censoring their "uncensored" radio service. XM sold everyone their service claiming uncensored radio, much like HBO sells uncensored television. XM is simply trying to make nice with the government so that their merger with Sirius satellite radio goes through. Which will result in a monopoly of the Satellite radio market.
Opie and Anthony fans have canceled their subscriptions and advertisers have complained that XM is censoring content. XM is a pay service. People paid for the freedom of uncensored radio. XM lied. There are serious issues here at stake, even if you are not an Opie and Anthony Fan. Don Imus, and JV and Elvis were also fired for using free speech.
Do anything you can... and start at http://www.peopleagainstcensorship.org/
There is a serious mentality shift happening with reguard to what can and can not be said. I think we can all see that, whether its the content on the evening news which is nothing but teasers and scare tactics for ratings, or the lack of true public opinion on the television. Something needs to be done to stop this.
The internet: bringing nuts together.
Then I thought "Well, if people really want to take the time to protest for something they like, then good for them."
Then I thought "You know, it is pretty sad that THIS is what people will protest about when our government is bankrupting the country, making enemies for us around the world, putting our fighting forces in harm's way for no good reason, and generally fucking up this country for not only this, but probably the next couple of generations."
So to everyone who protests about your favorite TV show getting cancelled - fuck you.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Remember about 65M people, in a few hours, voted in American Idol as compared to the last election when 75M people voted, all day and longer.
-- A computer without Windoze is like a choclate cake without mustard
CBS pimped Jericho to the next generation of new media consumers... and guess what? It work! Trouble was, they had no idea how to harness that power... just like Xerox with the first GUI (which was sold to Apple for a song), they tried to grab a tiger by the tail, succeeded in spite of themselves, and had no idea how to hang on for the ride... NUTS to 'em, I say! In case anyone wants to know, in this case: CBS = "Critically Braindead Stumpjumpers"
It's over 9,000!
Regardless of how you feel about this show, you have to admit that technology has redefined the television experience in a way that is innovative and exciting and a welcome alternative to the mind-numbing reality television that has infiltrated the rest of society. Jericho was designed to give viewers options in a multi-media experience, providing episodes at scheduled times, as well as via TiVO, DVRs, On-Demand, and online. I expect that each of these venues are affiliated with their own means of revenue production. I suggest that the outdate ratings system used to make the decision to cancel has been unable to keep up with the times and is therefore starkly unrepresentative of the profit value of a show such as Jericho. I personally have donated money towards nuts and hope for a second season, but in the end, this will be an interesting case study in how the old guard chooses to respond to the digital revolution for all to watch.
Wow, its as if Mike Judge's Idiocracy is quickly coming to life. Reminds of the Hal Jordan fans back when I was in high school. Even at that age, I realize getting worked up over a comic book character but not knowing who your city councilman was or what the Bill Rights is shows just has screwed up we are as a nation.
How many people know more about Rosie O'Donnell going bat shit in the View on Elisabeth Hasselbeck than what they were actually talking about. We just had an article about how some idiots in Kansas are opening a creationist museum.
We're dealing with a nation of slack-jawed, loudmouth twits who are going nuts (pardon the pun) over a TV show but don't seem to bat an eye that working class survivors of Katrina are still effectively homeless.
May God Have Mercy on TV-hypontized, junk food gouring souls -
Cappa
I quit watching new shows.
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//weeps
I'll wait for the season stuff to come out for a few years, before I get into the show. Sci-Fi channel and Fox were particularly bad in Launching GREAT new shows and concepts - only to trash them for something cheaper, or dumb.
Tick, The lone gunman, Firefly
What do we get in return? Wrestling.
Professional twits in costumes fake wrestling on the sci-fi channel...
_ _ _ Go for the eyes Boo! GO FOR THE EYES!
I feel that a season two (at least) is needed for Jericho. I have been a loyal viewer since day one. This show has brought people together like no other and may very well change the way television ratings work. So far the fans have spent almost $40,000 to save this show! NUTS!
"'Jericho' Fans Send Over Nine Tons of Nuts to CBS..."
That certainly explains why the Halls of Congress suddenly turned up empty...
Bruce Lane, KC7GR,
Blue Feather Technologies
Noticed you have Crohns. Wife has it too, runs in her family so I can relate to a lot of what you are saying. We also live in Canada, Saskatchewan the home of Canadian Medicare. Our province has good universal hospital coverage and a provincial drug plan, but some years our costs can balloon. On my wife's last attack she was off work for over a year. She was taking the usual prescribed drugs (steroids/anti-rejection) to get it under control with minimal success ... the specialist started talking surgery.
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Her GP suggested she try a "food supplement" called VSL#3, a pro-biotic by Seafood pharmaceuticals (888-292-3193). The GP noted that there were some interesting studies showing good short and long term control of crohns in over 75% of the test subjects. First week she took two packages a day then went to 1 package a day. Within 2 weeks she was back to "normal" - or as normal as you can get with crohns. She has not had a major attack for over two years. When she gets "the feeling" something is wrong, she doubles her intake for a few days and blands down her diet.
I normally do not believe in the health food cure all VOODOO stuff. My wife had tried other pro-biotics with no effect, but the VSL#3 is different. I saw the change within days with my own eyes, this stuff is amazing. I have been passing this information along to others, and many of them have seen dramatic improvements. The GP and my wife have worked together to removed her off the drugs and she now take just 1 package of VSL#3 a day. At about $3.00 a day it a small price for good health! The downside is the entire cost is yours, no tax deductions or provincial drug assistance as it is considered a "food supplement".
The majority of studies seem to indicate some benefit. I only have two bookmarks on VSL#3, they are:
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00367705 (makes reference to an adult test)
http://www.crohns.net/Miva/education/ddw2002.shtm
If you look around I am sure you will find some additional reference material.
Buffy was in no way axed by WB.
UPN desperately wanted it as a "flagship" prestige show, and just outbid WB when the contract was up after 5 seasons. WB offered a lot more than it had paid for S1-5, but ultimately wasn't prepared to take as big a loss on it as UPN.
How much effect the network switch had on the quality I don't know. My guess is it was very little.
Now, I've got a REAL grassroots annoyance campaign - to bring Firefly back. It involves sending a herd of cattle to Fox headquarters every day until they relent and give Joss a huge bucket of money. I can promise that I'm not on Fox's payroll - Rupert hired me direc... no, don't type that. No, stop typing, or I'll get a new secretary. Don't you DARE click "Submit", or you're fired
CBS cancels a TV show and fans campaign to send over $30,000 of nuts to those in charge. The President of the United States of America suspends habeas corpus and nobody cares. Anyone else think our society has its priorities mixed up?
Regardless of whether or not you believe the show should be kept, or if you thought it was good or bad, this campaign is about something greater...it's standing up and telling the major networks that the viewers will not be silenced. We have been treated like lemmings, they assume we will follow whatever they put in front of us...they think they can tell us what to think and what to watch...it's time we tell them what we think and tell them what we will watch...this is what it's about. It started as a few fans wanting their show back, it's now one of the biggest stories on the net...it's a snowball rolling down hill about to become an avalanche that will bury CBS in NUTS!!!! We will be silenced, we will not back down, we will not go quietly into the night...we make our stand here and NOW NUTS to CBS
Send Over Nine Tons of Nuts to CBS
For a minute there I thought they packaged up the entire Westboro Baptist Church.
I started watching Jericho from the beginning, and I though the story was good. Unfortunately the show was rather corny and melodramatic and gave too much screen time to the wrong events. I mean, the episode is only about 45 minutes, and there was just a nuclear attack, and they spend 10 minutes on some some little girl's field tracheotomy?... Thanks for the absolute fluff. Some of us do not watch TV to be escorted from one emotionally-charged-yet-meaningless vignette to the next. How about advancing the plot? It felt like they were throwing in tear-jerker and romantic stuff just to make sure the female watchers were staying tuned in. Look, it's OK to make a show that doesn't appeal to everyone. But apparently the networks just think every show today should be a panacea of entertainment for all audiences.
Jericho also suffers from Jack Bauer syndrome. But it's the mayor and his son this time. They are the heroes, everyone must bow to them, they know all and only they are competetent enough to make decisions, save lives, and serve breakfast. Crisis? Move out the way, here comes the fucking mayor, he'll save the day. Yay mayor! Please.... did Rudy Giuliani bankroll the show or something?
A if you hear the h, an if you don't, arrgggghhhhhh...