1) I did quote 2) I know a lot of html and have been using sgml probably longer than you have been alive (for more than 30 years) 3) Wrong version and I followed proper style for it as directed by its publishers.
Just because you don't like a message... don;t just go and make up crap about someone saying it. Learn to be a bit more accurate.
Oh and accusing someone falsely of a crime in a public forum... At least in the US where I live and the servers are located is a crime its called slander.
I don't know what you were reading, but the only things I quoted are: Hebrews 7 (which I did cite) and the post I was replying to.
Now if you are accusing me of plagiarizing God by quoting and attributing scripture then I suppose it should be noted that He did in fact approve it for evangelical purposes.
it does only have seven events that necessitate a reboot: 1) Installing anything 2) Uninstalling anything 3) Being connected to a network 4) Not being connected to a network 5) Running an application 6) Not running an application 7) Starting up
I would never ask anyone to believe with blind faith. There is a point where faith must take over, but let me describe it with a little astronomy.
Christianity is a rational religion. From a particular world view and rule/ moral set everything starts to make sense. Are there somethings that deny rationality? Certainly there are since rationality is based on history, empiricism and logic, while if there is a super-natural (and I would propose that there is) the super part means it denies both logic and empiricism (since miracles by their nature do not tend to be repeated for experimentation if they did they wouldn't;t be miracles or super-natural but rather natural)..
Anyway, I promised an astronomy illustration.
Logic is like astronomy years past. In years past we believed that the stars were basically fixed and in a shell around the earth. So you should be able to navigate from one star to another around the shell example: see those two stars that are right next to each other? well from there go... Logic operates in a similar way, from this thing then this other must occur logically speaking... Well today we know that those two stars are not necessarily close together and most likely not right next to each other. I propose that logic may be 3 dimensional also so that things that appear to be right next to one another may not be and things that appear far apart also may not be. This is the realm of faith for me.
Where does this all come down to? For the most part christianity is rational and it is certainly consistent. That said there are some things that you just simply have to accept about it. Example the Trinity. The trinity is consistent and fits in with christianity just fine but it is not logical and I do not completely understand it. One God three persons... So I take it on faith.
Have I said anything that is informative, or have your expectations been fulfilled?
You're telling me that without intentionally harming anyone else, I'm bad and will go to hell.
Even if it were the case where you had never done any harm to another person, nor thought of harming another person, Yes that would still be the case. This is my point about self righteousness vs real christianity... Real christians realize that everybody is bad and going to hell. Yes that is right everybody. God then reached down and took some folks who were going to hell and for no reason in them and for His own sake chose to redeem them. Real christians do not try and legislate morality outside the church.. well except for theonomists who I think have things a little bit wrong. Real christians remember that outside of Christ in our lives we would be no different, and possibly worse than the average heathen (meaning One who adheres to the religion of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of Christianity in this case). Further, one does not expect non-christians to behave like christians.
That sounds awfully self-righteous to me.
No see thats the point christians realize that any righteousness that they or anyone else can have must be foreign, and cannot be from themselves.
Saying specifically that God knows I'm bad and am going to hell doesn't make you any less self-righteous because use of the word "knows" tells me that you believe it as well and carries the same message: "I know you are bad and going to hell."
Why does it matter what I think? You going to hell or not is in God's hands and quite honestly I have no say in the matter. I do know that God is consistant and has said that there is only one way. The one way is through the redeaming work of Christ on the cross, His subsequent resurrection and ascention and His eventual return. That honestly is the only hope that any of us have.
Let me give you a finite example by giving you my take on this whole GTA/ESRB/Rockstar/ Hillary clinton/ everyone else thing. 1) I do not like the game, played it once just to take a look see and didn;t like the game play style or anything about it. 2) The game got an M rating IIRC which means that it was intended for 17+ year olds If it had the tea tiome segment enabled would it have still gotten an M rating? I think that would likely be the case or it simply would have been not rated. 3) that said (2) Rockstar did disable the "mini game" 4) ESRB has withdrawn the rating... Well that is there business but if it would have gotten the rating with the mini game in then they sould not have done so, if they would have not rated it had the game been public then maybe but I still think they are giving into pressure and I don't like it. 5) Hillary and most others are making a big deal about this because they want their names heard in the press. 6) Overall I would never buy the game, and I would hope that no one else would either. That being said you can spend your money on whatever you want to, and so long as it does not harm another person, or give the potential of harming another person/ people group I really do not expect that I would need to step in and stop you from doing it. Instead I would rather bring people to know Christ and have a relationship with Him, then they wouldn;t want to play this game either. Convert enough people and rockstar suddenly doesn;t sell any games and I don;t have to worry about it anyways. 7) In the same light I can and may take time to go through what is bad or wrong about the game, but unless I bring the focus back on Christ the prevous 6 points I made kicj in and it is all pretty useless.
So responding directly to an article is trolling? Fortunately the alternative to rejecting the truth is an eternity in hell, so there is no need for me to get angry with you. Your choice is simple, Hell or the service of the God who created everything.
Even the troubled relationship between Jude 'mind-blowing in bed' Law and Sienna 'pictured without engagement ring' Miller is more interesting than this limp tale of adolescent sex fantasy, Christian self-righteousness and coding
Before the mods decide to mod this post into oblivioin as a troll, flimbait or being off topic I would like to say that I am responding the the last line of the summary directly. Logically this cannot then be off topic and, a troll, flamebait or any other negative mod. That said the truth is more important to me than moderation, and I am not trying to please you in any way.
What the editors and most people on slashdot fail to realize, likely because they cannot get over their own rejection of God, is that real Christians are not "self righteous" in fact the two are mutually exclusive.
Christians by definition realize that we are NOT righteous, nor can we be on our own. In fact nothing we can do will make us righteous. Instead we are forced to rely on a foreign undeserved righteousness.
Hebrews 7: Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of the Highest God. He met Abraham, who was returning from "the royal massacre," and gave him his blessing. Abraham in turn gave him a tenth of the spoils. "Melchizedek" means "King of Righteousness." "Salem" means "Peace." So, he is also "King of Peace." Melchizedek towers out of the past--without record of family ties, no account of beginning or end. In this way he is like the Son of God, one huge priestly presence dominating the landscape always.
You realize just how great Melchizedek is when you see that Father Abraham gave him a tenth of the captured treasure. Priests descended from Levi are commanded by law to collect tithes from the people, even though they are all more or less equals, priests and people, having a common father in Abraham. But this man, a complete outsider, collected tithes from Abraham and blessed him, the one to whom the promises had been given. In acts of blessing, the lesser is blessed by the greater.
Or look at it this way: We pay our tithes to priests who die, but Abraham paid tithes to a priest who, the Scripture says, "lives." Ultimately you could even say that since Levi descended from Abraham, who paid tithes to Melchizedek, when we pay tithes to the priestly tribe of Levi they end up with Melchizedek.
If the priesthood of Levi and Aaron, which provided the framework for the giving of the law, could really make people perfect, there wouldn't have been need for a new priesthood like that of Melchizedek. But since it didn't get the job done, there was a change of priesthood, which brought with it a radical new kind of law. There is no way of understanding this in terms of the old Levitical priesthood, which is why there is nothing in Jesus' family tree connecting him with that priestly line.
But the Melchizedek story provides a perfect analogy: Jesus, a priest like Melchizedek, not by genealogical descent but by the sheer force of resurrection life--he lives!- "priest forever in the royal order of Melchizedek." The former way of doing things, a system of commandments that never worked out the way it was supposed to, was set aside; the law brought nothing to maturity. Another way--Jesus!-a way that does work, that brings us right into the presence of God, is put in its place.
The old priesthood of Aaron perpetuated itself automatically, father to son, without explicit confirmation by God. But then God intervened and called this new, permanent priesthood into being with an added promise:
God gave his word;
he won't take it back:
"You're the permanent priest."
This makes Jesus the guarantee of a far better way between us and God--one that really works! A new covenant.
Earlier there were a lot of priests, for they died and had to be replaced. But Jesus' priesthood is permanent. He's there from now to eternity to save everyone who comes to God th
and you might take a reading class since cessation of tax payments did not constitute cessation of support ( note I have a significant legal background and am currently working on a MS in church history)
It is a matter of history, and this a matter of fact, not subject to your wanting interpretation.
You moght want to read your history again because you are incorrect in your interpretation of my statement. Mandatory attendence abolishment is not the same as not having a state sponsored church. Moreso teh state church of Va was teh anglican chuch aka The Church of England.
Hey You got a problem with my PDP 11/24? Its got everything I need, PT readers, dual bootable 8.5 inch drives and a 3 mb HD... boots up in 5 minutes flat
A typist I am not.. I run a spell check once and thats usually it ( I have a marked habit of typing teh instead of the) I think that if you will re-read your comments.. nah you wouldn't.. sorry there is no real reason for arguing with you about it. you may claim to be agnostic, but you certainly do not appear that way:)
Oh I would be willing to trade stories... I have yet to find anyone who would be willing to trade histories if it were possible. I am not saying things haven't been difficult or even seemingly impossible, but don't you fond it interesting that you are so vehemently opposed to G-d? especially if as you seem to esposuse He doesn;t exist:)
What an amazing thing it would be if after all these years of suffering you came to realize that hell will be far worse and perhaps you are yet to be called. Or maybe you are just here to rant against your creator, in either case you will ultimately be used for H-s purposes, you can give in and see that and stop trying to live on your own or you can continue to live with a large blind spot. Either/Or.
Ah, you should read Augustine of Hippo some time I would start with confessions if I were you then move to De Civitate Dei contra Paganos aka City of God.
Only exception I have to this is that if the CO was constructed and is maintained with tax dollars then I would like to see the portion of the bill for its specific use either be nonexistent or sufficient to cover the install and maint only. Otherwise i think that effectively the customer is paying for it twice. Aside from that I think you are on the right trail.
Because it is not about abstinence training, it is about giving sex meaning and value as well as valuing relationships. In all honesty I do not expect you to get it. Fundamentally you can't since you have a large blind spot. You can provide all think links you want but there are only 3 kinds of people:
Those that are citizens of the kingdom Those that will be citizens Those that will never be
For the second two groups I don't expect that they understand I just hope that they will one day and so I keep telling the truth.
LIke I pointed out to another poster, You just have more faith in Govt. than I do.
If private companies are not providing the service.. I see where you are going but I have seen some whacked out Govt. programs so that sentence could lead to weird crap like cow painting.. I mean after all if private companies are not providing the service then the Govt. should. And if you think I am being silly you should take a look to see what tax dollars actually get spent on sometime.
Due to a fundamental ability to read in a manner that befits understanding, you have taken my comments out of context as you have the documents you purport to understand. What you have completely failed to understand are these parts of the US Constitution:
Article 1 Section 8 which begins:"The Congress shall have Power To"
Article 2 Section 1The executive Power shall
Article 3 Section 1The judicial Power of the United States, shall
You fail to see that these are explicit definitions of what the branches can do, Simple reasoning shows that since the constitution explicitly states what they may do then they may not do anything else. This is further evidenced by the Tenth Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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1) I did quote
... don;t just go and make up crap about someone saying it. Learn to be a bit more accurate.
... At least in the US where I live and the servers are located is a crime its called slander.
2) I know a lot of html and have been using sgml probably longer than you have been alive (for more than 30 years)
3) Wrong version and I followed proper style for it as directed by its publishers.
Just because you don't like a message
Oh and accusing someone falsely of a crime in a public forum
And so they prove it again...
I don't know what you were reading, but the only things I quoted are: Hebrews 7 (which I did cite) and the post I was replying to.
Now if you are accusing me of plagiarizing God by quoting and attributing scripture then I suppose it should be noted that He did in fact approve it for evangelical purposes.
So what exactly did I not properly attribute?
it does only have seven events that necessitate a reboot:
1) Installing anything
2) Uninstalling anything
3) Being connected to a network
4) Not being connected to a network
5) Running an application
6) Not running an application
7) Starting up
If you haven't figured it out yet mods don't need a "right" they just smoke some serious crack and mod away.
I would never ask anyone to believe with blind faith. There is a point where faith must take over, but let me describe it with a little astronomy.
... Logic operates in a similar way, from this thing then this other must occur logically speaking ... Well today we know that those two stars are not necessarily close together and most likely not right next to each other. I propose that logic may be 3 dimensional also so that things that appear to be right next to one another may not be and things that appear far apart also may not be. This is the realm of faith for me.
... So I take it on faith.
Christianity is a rational religion. From a particular world view and rule/ moral set everything starts to make sense. Are there somethings that deny rationality? Certainly there are since rationality is based on history, empiricism and logic, while if there is a super-natural (and I would propose that there is) the super part means it denies both logic and empiricism (since miracles by their nature do not tend to be repeated for experimentation if they did they wouldn't;t be miracles or super-natural but rather natural)..
Anyway, I promised an astronomy illustration.
Logic is like astronomy years past. In years past we believed that the stars were basically fixed and in a shell around the earth. So you should be able to navigate from one star to another around the shell example: see those two stars that are right next to each other? well from there go
Where does this all come down to? For the most part christianity is rational and it is certainly consistent. That said there are some things that you just simply have to accept about it. Example the Trinity. The trinity is consistent and fits in with christianity just fine but it is not logical and I do not completely understand it. One God three persons
Have I said anything that is informative, or have your expectations been fulfilled?
Real christians do not try and legislate morality outside the church
No see thats the point christians realize that any righteousness that they or anyone else can have must be foreign, and cannot be from themselves.
Why does it matter what I think? You going to hell or not is in God's hands and quite honestly I have no say in the matter. I do know that God is consistant and has said that there is only one way. The one way is through the redeaming work of Christ on the cross, His subsequent resurrection and ascention and His eventual return. That honestly is the only hope that any of us have.
Let me give you a finite example by giving you my take on this whole GTA/ESRB/Rockstar/ Hillary clinton/ everyone else thing.
1) I do not like the game, played it once just to take a look see and didn;t like the game play style or anything about it.
2) The game got an M rating IIRC which means that it was intended for 17+ year olds If it had the tea tiome segment enabled would it have still gotten an M rating? I think that would likely be the case or it simply would have been not rated.
3) that said (2) Rockstar did disable the "mini game"
4) ESRB has withdrawn the rating... Well that is there business but if it would have gotten the rating with the mini game in then they sould not have done so, if they would have not rated it had the game been public then maybe but I still think they are giving into pressure and I don't like it.
5) Hillary and most others are making a big deal about this because they want their names heard in the press.
6) Overall I would never buy the game, and I would hope that no one else would either. That being said you can spend your money on whatever you want to, and so long as it does not harm another person, or give the potential of harming another person/ people group I really do not expect that I would need to step in and stop you from doing it. Instead I would rather bring people to know Christ and have a relationship with Him, then they wouldn;t want to play this game either. Convert enough people and rockstar suddenly doesn;t sell any games and I don;t have to worry about it anyways.
7) In the same light I can and may take time to go through what is bad or wrong about the game, but unless I bring the focus back on Christ the prevous 6 points I made kicj in and it is all pretty useless.
So responding directly to an article is trolling? Fortunately the alternative to rejecting the truth is an eternity in hell, so there is no need for me to get angry with you. Your choice is simple, Hell or the service of the God who created everything.
Saying there isn't a God when there is is in fact rejecting God ...
What the editors and most people on slashdot fail to realize, likely because they cannot get over their own rejection of God, is that real Christians are not "self righteous" in fact the two are mutually exclusive.
Christians by definition realize that we are NOT righteous, nor can we be on our own. In fact nothing we can do will make us righteous. Instead we are forced to rely on a foreign undeserved righteousness.
Hebrews 7:
Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of the Highest God. He met Abraham, who was returning from "the royal massacre," and gave him his blessing. Abraham in turn gave him a tenth of the spoils. "Melchizedek" means "King of Righteousness." "Salem" means "Peace." So, he is also "King of Peace." Melchizedek towers out of the past--without record of family ties, no account of beginning or end. In this way he is like the Son of God, one huge priestly presence dominating the landscape always.
You realize just how great Melchizedek is when you see that Father Abraham gave him a tenth of the captured treasure. Priests descended from Levi are commanded by law to collect tithes from the people, even though they are all more or less equals, priests and people, having a common father in Abraham. But this man, a complete outsider, collected tithes from Abraham and blessed him, the one to whom the promises had been given. In acts of blessing, the lesser is blessed by the greater.
Or look at it this way: We pay our tithes to priests who die, but Abraham paid tithes to a priest who, the Scripture says, "lives." Ultimately you could even say that since Levi descended from Abraham, who paid tithes to Melchizedek, when we pay tithes to the priestly tribe of Levi they end up with Melchizedek.
If the priesthood of Levi and Aaron, which provided the framework for the giving of the law, could really make people perfect, there wouldn't have been need for a new priesthood like that of Melchizedek. But since it didn't get the job done, there was a change of priesthood, which brought with it a radical new kind of law. There is no way of understanding this in terms of the old Levitical priesthood, which is why there is nothing in Jesus' family tree connecting him with that priestly line.
But the Melchizedek story provides a perfect analogy: Jesus, a priest like Melchizedek, not by genealogical descent but by the sheer force of resurrection life--he lives!- "priest forever in the royal order of Melchizedek." The former way of doing things, a system of commandments that never worked out the way it was supposed to, was set aside; the law brought nothing to maturity. Another way--Jesus!-a way that does work, that brings us right into the presence of God, is put in its place.
The old priesthood of Aaron perpetuated itself automatically, father to son, without explicit confirmation by God. But then God intervened and called this new, permanent priesthood into being with an added promise:
God gave his word;
he won't take it back:
"You're the permanent priest."
This makes Jesus the guarantee of a far better way between us and God--one that really works! A new covenant.
Earlier there were a lot of priests, for they died and had to be replaced. But Jesus' priesthood is permanent. He's there from now to eternity to save everyone who comes to God th
Actually that would be a simple fallacy ... Division
Only fools argue with fools, I guess I need to remember that.
and you might take a reading class since cessation of tax payments did not constitute cessation of support ( note I have a significant legal background and am currently working on a MS in church history)
It is a matter of history, and this a matter of fact, not subject to your wanting interpretation.
You moght want to read your history again because you are incorrect in your interpretation of my statement. Mandatory attendence abolishment is not the same as not having a state sponsored church. Moreso teh state church of Va was teh anglican chuch aka The Church of England.
Hey You got a problem with my PDP 11/24? Its got everything I need, PT readers, dual bootable 8.5 inch drives and a 3 mb HD
(scary things is I am serious)
A typist I am not .. I run a spell check once and thats usually it ( I have a marked habit of typing teh instead of the) I think that if you will re-read your comments .. nah you wouldn't .. sorry there is no real reason for arguing with you about it. you may claim to be agnostic, but you certainly do not appear that way :)
Oh I would be willing to trade stories ... I have yet to find anyone who would be willing to trade histories if it were possible. I am not saying things haven't been difficult or even seemingly impossible, but don't you fond it interesting that you are so vehemently opposed to G-d? especially if as you seem to esposuse He doesn;t exist :)
What an amazing thing it would be if after all these years of suffering you came to realize that hell will be far worse and perhaps you are yet to be called. Or maybe you are just here to rant against your creator, in either case you will ultimately be used for H-s purposes, you can give in and see that and stop trying to live on your own or you can continue to live with a large blind spot. Either/Or.
Which is why we need to get more strict constructionists in the court and stop the rampant silliness of the last 25+ years.
Ah, you should read Augustine of Hippo some time I would start with confessions if I were you then move to De Civitate Dei contra Paganos aka City of God.
Only exception I have to this is that if the CO was constructed and is maintained with tax dollars then I would like to see the portion of the bill for its specific use either be nonexistent or sufficient to cover the install and maint only. Otherwise i think that effectively the customer is paying for it twice. Aside from that I think you are on the right trail.
Because it is not about abstinence training, it is about giving sex meaning and value as well as valuing relationships. In all honesty I do not expect you to get it. Fundamentally you can't since you have a large blind spot. You can provide all think links you want but there are only 3 kinds of people:
Those that are citizens of the kingdom
Those that will be citizens
Those that will never be
For the second two groups I don't expect that they understand I just hope that they will one day and so I keep telling the truth.
LIke I pointed out to another poster, You just have more faith in Govt. than I do.
.. I see where you are going but I have seen some whacked out Govt. programs so that sentence could lead to weird crap like cow painting .. I mean after all if private companies are not providing the service then the Govt. should. And if you think I am being silly you should take a look to see what tax dollars actually get spent on sometime.
If private companies are not providing the service
What you have completely failed to understand are these parts of the US Constitution:
Article 1 Section 8 which begins:"The Congress shall have Power To"
Article 2 Section 1 The executive Power shall
Article 3 Section 1 The judicial Power of the United States, shall
You fail to see that these are explicit definitions of what the branches can do, Simple reasoning shows that since the constitution explicitly states what they may do then they may not do anything else.
This is further evidenced by the
Tenth Amendment
Which amazingly enough is precicely what I said
Given this thread, I find your .sig
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."
particularly appropriate.