The banner can tell you program version information and sometimes the host OS, machine architecture and running modules. Apache's webserver banner is a good example. It can, if set up to, tell you the version of apache, the version of PHP, the host OS kernel revision, and what processor is hosting that OS. That's a lot of information that really isn't necessary. Usually it's displayed when a ErrorDocument handler returns a 404 itself.
Well, there's a whole slew of developers who want unsigned types. They would be really happy to have them in Java, instead of having to use something like C# to get the same functionality. Therefore, someone aside form me might like it. Maybe more people want it than don't, and just maybe the only way to get it is to have someone put it in there and commit it?
Simple enough for you? Now you can take your gay little acronym (just say fuck for crying out loud, this is a big boy site), and shove it. And where the fuck do I 'keep posting' I don't care. I said it once. Your argumentative skills require work.
I don't care about anyone else. This is something I would like on my implementation, and I could even "open source" it so others could share in the glory of unsignedness.
The only thing restraining orders provide is another charge when the perpetrator is apprehended. Instead of battery, you have battery and violating a restraining order. That's not saying much, but sometimes you need these things documented to the hilt.
That all said, I really enjoyed browsing the link in your.sig.
I sort of regret writing what I did, it was at the end of the work day in haste. I had a whole thing detailing almost exactly what you have here, except taking about Django, JSP and Rails instead of TurboGears. Then I erased it and wrote that so I could go home.
Anyhow, to address your points, I suppose I don't consider the available frameworks part of the language. I talk rather academically about languages, so to me it's all about designing the problem properly. From my perspective, web development is childs play. The problem is already solved: With TurboGears, a machine literally does all the work for you. How much Python do you really write? 10 lines per page, maybe 30 if it has a lot of form elements. That's not writing code, you've got a machine to do it all for you, the choice of language is already made. In this aspect, I concede, I don't even think of this when I'm discussing writing code, so you can go ahead and lambaste me if you want. I do feel, however, that maintenance of that code is not much easier than any other well-designed solution.
That said, the custom back-end business code to that webpage could be in almost any language and it would take nearly the same amount of development time. VB, C, anything. Almost any problem you could create have had libraries written to solve them in almost every language, just utilize them and be done. Or, like TurboGears, if there's a package already written for you, use that, and then fire your programmers.
I will never understand why people feel the need to be so assertive about things of which they have only limited understanding. A good programmer should keep an open mind about systems they are unfamiliar with. A wise man admits he knows nothing, and so forth.
Are you directly addressing me in your statement or am I reading into it wrong?
Come on, 3D graphics have been around a lot longer than 15 years. OpenGL itself is almost 15. Even a 286 PC could render 3D (fixed point or on a 287), it's only linear algebra, it just wouldn't look as pretty or be as fast on that old hardware, but the math is the same and you can do it in assembler just the same.
And no, the compiler is not "smarter" than a properly educated assembler programmer who understands the problem domain. The compiler is better than a poor assembler programmer, sure, and probably even an average one, but it will not beat a well thought out, hand tuned assembler program.
There's no reason C/C++ development has to take longer than Java/Python/Ruby (except for some trivial exercises you will never see outside of academia).
Where is time being "wasted" developing C/C++? Most of the time, if there is a waste occuring, it's due to lack of foresight in design spec rather than language choice. Even a team of experienced assembler programmers can pump out an application pretty quickly, given a proper spec and APIs.
None of the people I know who actively copy movies and songs have every mentioned once screwing any institution.
I do. If I like a song, I look up the artist on riaawatch.com. If I cannot find an album containing that song that is not produced by an RIAA member, I "obtain" it for no price, if I can find a non-RIAA album, I buy it right then and there.
10 million writes, writing once every 5 seconds, not accounting for defect balancing, leaves you at about 578 days. If the disk is constantly full, this will be a problem, unless it's cheap and easily hot swappable, or if the disk is under 50% utilization for its life. I'd still probably keep logs on a regular magnetic platter-based drive.
Yeah, I do this. While it adds a small level of complexity and a tiny extra hit at the initial page load, you can save the status of that in the session and send pages accordingly.
Come on. Uranium is hardly a weapon of mass destruction. Using the logic that since you can kill someone with a specific property of an object, the object should be banned from public use is dumb anyhow. You can kill anyone with anything, as a close example, smoke detectors contain radioactive Americinium. Get enough and not only can you severely poison someone, but you can make an atomic pile. Put that in someone's offie and they will die too. People die, people cause other people to die, welcome to the harsh reality of planet Earth.
Holy crap, it's bizarro-me. I just did the *exact* same thing. If you haven't picked up a wavebird wireless controller yet, do so. Probably one of the best pieces of hardware I've ever used.
You must not realize how much of a son of a bitch it is to make something work in IE along with everything else. In a very short amount of time I can have a nice looking site with proper nav bar, menus, and content working on FireFox, Opera, Safari, Lynx, Links, and it will even degrade properly in Netscape 6... but then if I were to open it in IE, everything is hosed.
I have a huge project I'm working on right now to upgrade my company's website design and functionality, and I would be lying if I said refactoring proper valid HTML into some mess of shit to get IE to render it properly wasn't taking up 25-30% of our development time. And by development time, I'm including not only totally new HTML/JSP pages, but new backend Java, new Javascript and new SQL tables, procedures, views and a new SQL database. Thirty percent. We cannot use any select controls because Microsoft managed to design IE in such a way that the select bar, out of all the controls on the page, is the lucky control to get its own HWND. This somehow precludes it from obeying z-ordering. So I had to write some javascript to emulate that behaviour. Let that sink in. I had to basically emulate a simple HTML form control because IE was designed by what I can only presume are retards.
So your opinion about having web developers "aim to make their sites usable for as many different browsers as is reasonably possible", to me, is poorly thought out. Instead of forcing hordes of web developers to pour hundreds of extra hours into basically developing shit, why can't Microsoft write a browser that simply TRIES to not suck? Cut the infection off at the source instead of trying to force everyone else to deal with it. It doesn't even need to be too much better, but all these hacks are the epitome of poor design and they certainly don't promote best practices. What happens to my hacks when IE7 comes out? Am I going to have to refactor my fucking code? I should send a goddamn bill to Microsoft for the fucking coronary I'm going to experience from being so pissed at their incompetence. Sorry, I got a little hot headed there. Goddamnit I'm tired of IE.
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The banner can tell you program version information and sometimes the host OS, machine architecture and running modules. Apache's webserver banner is a good example. It can, if set up to, tell you the version of apache, the version of PHP, the host OS kernel revision, and what processor is hosting that OS. That's a lot of information that really isn't necessary. Usually it's displayed when a ErrorDocument handler returns a 404 itself.
Ok.
Well, there's a whole slew of developers who want unsigned types. They would be really happy to have them in Java, instead of having to use something like C# to get the same functionality. Therefore, someone aside form me might like it. Maybe more people want it than don't, and just maybe the only way to get it is to have someone put it in there and commit it?
Simple enough for you? Now you can take your gay little acronym (just say fuck for crying out loud, this is a big boy site), and shove it. And where the fuck do I 'keep posting' I don't care. I said it once. Your argumentative skills require work.
Troll? Please describe how I'm trolling so that I may better understand.
Tell these guys that too: http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id =4504839
Working on unsigned data coming in from another source is VERY bug prone in Java. Writing file format readers in Java is a nightmare.
I don't care about anyone else. This is something I would like on my implementation, and I could even "open source" it so others could share in the glory of unsignedness.
What the fuck are you talking about? I simply want unsigned integers.
... so that I can personally add the 'unsigned' keyword.
The only thing restraining orders provide is another charge when the perpetrator is apprehended. Instead of battery, you have battery and violating a restraining order. That's not saying much, but sometimes you need these things documented to the hilt.
.sig.
That all said, I really enjoyed browsing the link in your
Castle Rock v. Gonzales: http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/04-278.ZS.ht ml
I sort of regret writing what I did, it was at the end of the work day in haste. I had a whole thing detailing almost exactly what you have here, except taking about Django, JSP and Rails instead of TurboGears. Then I erased it and wrote that so I could go home.
Anyhow, to address your points, I suppose I don't consider the available frameworks part of the language. I talk rather academically about languages, so to me it's all about designing the problem properly. From my perspective, web development is childs play. The problem is already solved: With TurboGears, a machine literally does all the work for you. How much Python do you really write? 10 lines per page, maybe 30 if it has a lot of form elements. That's not writing code, you've got a machine to do it all for you, the choice of language is already made. In this aspect, I concede, I don't even think of this when I'm discussing writing code, so you can go ahead and lambaste me if you want. I do feel, however, that maintenance of that code is not much easier than any other well-designed solution.
That said, the custom back-end business code to that webpage could be in almost any language and it would take nearly the same amount of development time. VB, C, anything. Almost any problem you could create have had libraries written to solve them in almost every language, just utilize them and be done. Or, like TurboGears, if there's a package already written for you, use that, and then fire your programmers.
You've gotta be kidding me. Whatever. Listen, if you suck so bad that you can't just jump into a language and write, you should go back to school.
Come on, 3D graphics have been around a lot longer than 15 years. OpenGL itself is almost 15. Even a 286 PC could render 3D (fixed point or on a 287), it's only linear algebra, it just wouldn't look as pretty or be as fast on that old hardware, but the math is the same and you can do it in assembler just the same.
And no, the compiler is not "smarter" than a properly educated assembler programmer who understands the problem domain. The compiler is better than a poor assembler programmer, sure, and probably even an average one, but it will not beat a well thought out, hand tuned assembler program.
There's no reason C/C++ development has to take longer than Java/Python/Ruby (except for some trivial exercises you will never see outside of academia).
Where is time being "wasted" developing C/C++? Most of the time, if there is a waste occuring, it's due to lack of foresight in design spec rather than language choice. Even a team of experienced assembler programmers can pump out an application pretty quickly, given a proper spec and APIs.
He probably crucified his thumb while hanging drywall or something.
Goddamnit, I meant http://www.magnetbox.com/riaa/ (RIAA Radar, not RIAA watch)
10 million writes, writing once every 5 seconds, not accounting for defect balancing, leaves you at about 578 days. If the disk is constantly full, this will be a problem, unless it's cheap and easily hot swappable, or if the disk is under 50% utilization for its life. I'd still probably keep logs on a regular magnetic platter-based drive.
Yeah, I do this. While it adds a small level of complexity and a tiny extra hit at the initial page load, you can save the status of that in the session and send pages accordingly.
Come on. Uranium is hardly a weapon of mass destruction. Using the logic that since you can kill someone with a specific property of an object, the object should be banned from public use is dumb anyhow. You can kill anyone with anything, as a close example, smoke detectors contain radioactive Americinium. Get enough and not only can you severely poison someone, but you can make an atomic pile. Put that in someone's offie and they will die too. People die, people cause other people to die, welcome to the harsh reality of planet Earth.
A computer might be deterministic for a given set of inputs, but what happens when the sensors throw bad data?
Holy crap, it's bizarro-me. I just did the *exact* same thing. If you haven't picked up a wavebird wireless controller yet, do so. Probably one of the best pieces of hardware I've ever used.
Cedega - http://www.transgaming.com/
that taking a piss takes about an hour. Seriously, the timescale on that action is ridiculous.
You must not realize how much of a son of a bitch it is to make something work in IE along with everything else. In a very short amount of time I can have a nice looking site with proper nav bar, menus, and content working on FireFox, Opera, Safari, Lynx, Links, and it will even degrade properly in Netscape 6... but then if I were to open it in IE, everything is hosed.
I have a huge project I'm working on right now to upgrade my company's website design and functionality, and I would be lying if I said refactoring proper valid HTML into some mess of shit to get IE to render it properly wasn't taking up 25-30% of our development time. And by development time, I'm including not only totally new HTML/JSP pages, but new backend Java, new Javascript and new SQL tables, procedures, views and a new SQL database. Thirty percent. We cannot use any select controls because Microsoft managed to design IE in such a way that the select bar, out of all the controls on the page, is the lucky control to get its own HWND. This somehow precludes it from obeying z-ordering. So I had to write some javascript to emulate that behaviour. Let that sink in. I had to basically emulate a simple HTML form control because IE was designed by what I can only presume are retards.
So your opinion about having web developers "aim to make their sites usable for as many different browsers as is reasonably possible", to me, is poorly thought out. Instead of forcing hordes of web developers to pour hundreds of extra hours into basically developing shit, why can't Microsoft write a browser that simply TRIES to not suck? Cut the infection off at the source instead of trying to force everyone else to deal with it. It doesn't even need to be too much better, but all these hacks are the epitome of poor design and they certainly don't promote best practices. What happens to my hacks when IE7 comes out? Am I going to have to refactor my fucking code? I should send a goddamn bill to Microsoft for the fucking coronary I'm going to experience from being so pissed at their incompetence. Sorry, I got a little hot headed there. Goddamnit I'm tired of IE.