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Competition for Jolt/Dew/Coffee?
bl00d writes "Noticed this advertised in "Maxim"
magazine, then checked out their website. The caffiene this
stuff is made with is 2.5 times stronger than that in Coffee/Tea/Soft
drinks. Their "Model" is rather scary, but the drink
sounds like the stuff for coding marathons." The scariest
part is the name: The stuff is called
Bawls. I guess its easier
than disolving penguin mints in my morning expresso.
Like the subject says ;-).
Guarana drinks have long been available in the US. Hell, if you're that desperate, just go to Rodizio and get some with your meat.
Yeah, right.
I, for one, do not drink coffee. It's disgusting.
I'll never turn away from Jolt.
The original "Caffeine X2", and still the best
Having Bawls doesn't matter if your pipe is too small!
I don't think I will be putting anything called bawls, in my mouth.
Actually it is a cool name, but not good for a grocery item.
Perhaps they sould be selling day-glow jock-straps.
Yeah. A friend of mine had a case of Bawls about eight months ago. The drinkis great for those network parties or for when you just need to stay up. The bottle was blue with bumps on it, so we told a lot of jokes about it, like: "Can you hold my Bawls for a second?" or "How do you like my blue Bawls?" I think that is enough of these lame jokes.
Evil things, penguin mints are. I didn't know they were caffeinated, and ate a whole box while drinking a six pack of bud and watching a movie. Afterwards, I was... entertaining.
I know that there is a Brazillian company that sells a soft drink called Guarana, that contains guarana. I also thought there was an American company doing this as well. I can't remember the name of the company right now, but one of their products is Fuckola Cola.
Crosseyed is right - Bawls has been out for a while. Blue talks about this stuff all the time - he even had a link to an interview with the guy from Bawls a while back I think he's been on CNN as well. For my money it tastes WAY better than Mountain Spew. Jolt reminds me of, uh, transmission fluid. Without the kick, of course.
Wow, nothing like destroying your body for the sake of the code! Meet that unrealistic deadline by destroying more brain cells! Yay!
Recently due to an illness I had to stop drinking caffeine cold turkey as well (the antibiotics didn't mix well with caffeine, so I didn't have a lot of choice). The first three days were miserable, but then I was sick away so... I've been caffeine-free for two weeks now and I feel so much better than I have in YEARS. (and no, it's not due to not being sick anymore; I wasn't sick for _years_, afterall). I didn't plan to stop drinking caffeine, but I'm not going to start again.
Funny thing, my productivity is up and there are fewer bugs in my code. But even if my code turned to garbage and my productivity sucked, I'm staying off the drug. My body is more important than my code. (I wonder if I'll be burned as a blasmapher for saying that...)
I have a better slogan for them:
"Don't just drink it, SUCK IT!!!"
The commercial would have some hussy
running her mouth around the top of
the bottle in a seductive fashion...
A special commercial for San Fran
could use a guy instead....
I'll second that motion. It tastes like eating burned and charred meat... Ick!
So a drink which contains a lot of caffeine seems to be more news worthy than a petabit network which is being lain across europe? Whatever you guys have been smoking, I want it too.
Bah, you small people are annoying... ;-) This is why I can't take enough ASA (2 pills, the reccommended maximum dosage in Canada, is just _barely_ enough, I switched to Advil because it's the only stuff where the maximum dosage is enough...).
:-( I suppose I could have 4 tylenol and not have any problems, but I won't (I don't like to tempt fate...). Actually, I've been told by doctors with most of the stuff on the shelves it is possible to take all of the package at once and not die (but, then again, if you're 120 lbs...). Don't do the above, though. I won't be held liable if you do, etc...
I weigh 220 lbs. (ok, SO I could stand to lose a few pounds). But those people who weigh 120 lbs. are so are who the Max. dosages are geared to..
Hrm, seems they didn't notice that the whole entry page/"Click here to enter" fad died a looonnnnggg time ago.
Is this a new trend in consumer products?
So what's next? Licorice (anis) flavored
lolly pops called "Aynis"? As in "Lick your
Aynis" or "Would you like to lick my Aynis?"?
How about a soft bag of small pointy candies
called "Titties"? How about an imported
German beer called "Schlonger" in a tall,
thin and slightly bent bottle?
I can only guess that Austin Powers would
say "Yeah, Baby, Yeah"!
Anyone here have access to Pepsi MAX? I drank a can or two whil in europe and it was the strongest friggin thing I ever had...
The Pepsi MAX we have here in Finland is just regular Pepsi without the sugar (probably uses Nutrasweet instead.) OTOH I did once work without sleep for four days straight using just 3 litres of Pepsi. I've found that many things affect the effect various boosters have. Sometimes I can go on forever on a single coffeine pill while at other times I fall asleep shortly after popping two or three. Once I drank half a can of a guarana drink called Black Booster and immediately felt like I'd slept 12 hours while at other times I've drunk a couple of Red Bulls and didn't feel a thing.
What I've noticed at times is that some uppers just makes you not sleep, but instead you become so tired that work is out of the question. When your eyes can't focus on the screen and you can't remember the last line of code you wrote, the only thing that can help you is sleep.
so, what exactly is "guarana"?
Honestly, check out:
l , Bawls has less caffeine than JOLT!
http://www.bawls.com/what_is_it.html
There claim to fame is that they use he Guarana berry contains a naturally-occurring form of caffeine which is 2.5 times stronger than the caffeine found in coffee, tea, and soft drinks
In other words, they use less guarana so that the final amount of caffeine in Bawls is equal to coffee! So BAWLS® Guarana, with its 80mg/12 oz.. is no more caffeine than a cup of coffee.
According to http://www.ccnet.com/~boo-yah/dew/dewcaffeine.htm
Jolt 100.0
Afri-Cola 100.0
Mountain Dew 55.0
Diet Mountain Dew 55.0
Mello Yellow 52.8
Tab 46.8
Coca-Cola 45.6
Diet Cola 45.6
Mr. Pibb 40.8
OK Soda 40.5
Dr. Pepper 39.6
Pepsi Cola 37.2
...but according to http://hersheys.com/consumer/caffeine.html, Bawls has more than Jolt!
Coca Cola 46
Diet Coke 46
Pepsi Cola 36-38
Diet Pepsi 36-38
Tab 46
Jolt Cola 71
Dr. Pepper 40
Mountain Dew 54
Either way, Bawls sounds kind of weak, and doesn't live to it's implied (2.5x coffee) strength.
Viva la Vivarin!
i prefer Ginseng over caffeine too, for the same reason. unfortunately it seems to have a positive(?) effect on my libido so sometimes I end up having sex instead of hacking ;)
Not exactly the advertising slogan I would have used...
I've been told by doctors with most of the stuff on the shelves it is possible to take all of the package at once and not die (but, then again, if you're 120 lbs...).
Uhm, yeah, like Simetap or Nyquil. But Tylenol and most of those other medicines thrash your liver. Take 3 a day for most of your life and you will most likely develop liver disease before you are 45. I can't guarantee that, but I do know that taking about 8-10 tylenol can kill a lot of people, if they don't vomit it up first...
If you are experiencing chest pains from too much caffeine use, you really need to cool it a bit. If you keep these habits up you will regret it when you're approaching fourty-ish. I'm assuming you're probably well under thiry, most likely late teens to early-mid twenties maybe. And yes, you'll live to be 40 and then some. Been there in your shoes and wish I could go back and not do some of it now. The quality of life now could have been made better.
Just call me: Doc Wannabe
Yeah, the bumblebee pollen thing kinda bothered me, because I'd always figured pollen came from plants and not bees. ;-) That, and the fact that it claimed to be pollen, but it didn't cause anaphylactic shock and I'm still here.
Well, looking at the bottle array to my right, I see (among other empty containers):
Snapple 'Rain', 'Moon', 'Sun', 'Fire'
SoBe 'Power', 'Orange Carrot Elixir'
Mistic Herbal Tea
Arizona Herbal Tea and Green Tea (w/ and w/o plum
juice)
and as far as a caffeine experience goes, some years ago I typically downed 4+ Dews every mornin' just trying (futilely) to stay 'wake during 2h economics lectures. AFAIK, I built up a decent tolerance during that time...
Off-hand, they're all decently tasty (they appeal to me more than Coke/Pepsi on that front). Taste-wise, I'd think the SoBe beverages are up there w/ the GT+PJ, but eh. Effects? My level of wakefulness varies moreso with whether I'm engaged in any particular task rather than with what I'm drinking. YMMV.
I wonder when that page will appear.
-Sean
Pound for pound Guarana may be stronger than the caffeine we find in cola and coffee; however, they put less in each bottle, so the overall kick is the same...while a shot of whiskey is a lot more potent than a shot of beer, it carries the same buzz as whole mug. Am I reading this correctly? "So BAWLS® Guarana, with its 80mg/12 oz.. is no more caffeine than a cup of coffee."
I can just picture someone asking for this stuff at the counter..."Hey, have you got bawls..."
clerk respond, "What?" and then hits you.
mmmm...battery acid...
I've been wondering about that myself...is 77-79 bpm resting the slightest bit normal? It's funny, NO MATTER WHAT I'M DOING, sitting, walking, running uphill (tested this one...it really wigged me out), my heart's _always_ pegged down at 77-79 bpm. Could this be some sort of freaky effect of constant caffination?
Hands shaking from cafeine? You are sensitive! That's something I only have when I use cocaine.
...when we shot up a mouse with so much caffine that it died within 10 miniutes. I had REALLY cool HS biology/chem teachers (Malin and Sanger were the names, I believe). We did all sorts of sadistic shit that I'm *ABSOLUTELY* positive the front office had no ideas was happening (sadistic shit has a way of filling the seats so that the attendance reports never bring the principal down to your end of the school) It was a good teacher/student relationship.
BTW, the mouse did some pretty amazing mouse type things in those 10 miniutes though. I don't know how much of the effect translates over to the mental exercise of programming; however, I'm sure Microsoft has considered putting Meth in their vending machines more than one time. The only problem with ICE addicts is that they tend to go out with a big fireball type of bang. Having dual-burners take out the office when they go postal at the end of their rope kinda' has a way of keeping some of the more feindish managerial styles in check.
Still, if you're just an average shit, what better way to make your mark than burn twice as bright. Death by over stimulation? Nah, I'm good enough that I can just fade away... which is more than I can say for most people.
Now stop reading slahsdot on your coffee break and get back to work, you fscking hack code monekey.
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You obviously aren't there target audience.
Avoid too much caffine. It is potentially fatal. I was doing about a gallon of tea, coffee, and jolt per day (combined, not each!). I was getting about 4 hours sleep per day and working about 15 hours per day. I developed heart problems and even after I stopped caffine it took several months for my heart to recover. Some people don't recover. I guess I was lucky.
Half the people you know are allergic? You obviously hang with some neurotic people. I'm quite sure that clinical trials revealed very few problems with the average person. Do these friends also have multiple chemical sensitivity?
Maybe you should conduct a double-blind study on this effect.
Anyone else tried this? I came across some in Indiana during a drive from Chicago to Florida. It helped me to churn on past Nashville late at night. I can't remember the name of it. It was something like "Extreme RC"
I have a similarly low level of dependency (e.g. 1 cup per day to function correctly), and I've found that I can shake that degree of caffeine addiction with about 3-4 days of cold turkey. Not that there's much need to shake a one-cup habit, but I definitely notice adverse effects during those life periods where it escalates to 4-6 cups/day...
That was my drink of choice for whenever I wanted to go bouncing off the walls. The great thing I noticed about guarana is that it not only keeps you awake, but I didn't get dry/tired eyes like with regular caffiene. I could pull all-nighters w/out any trouble. Noticable heartbeat irregularities after several cans. I'd drink it and become the evil bastard from hell in Goldeneye because all my responses would be super-quick and instead of taking glances at opponents' screens I could watch them all simultaneously. BUT NOW I CAN'T FIND IT ANYMORE! WAAH! (And this 'Bawls' stuff is much more expensive and sounds stupid.) (I think PepsiCo made Josta, perhaps still does, but I can't find it in Santa Fe NM anymore.)
Hehe... I could go on... You have to go down to Atlanta and visit the World of Coca-Cola ;-)...
And while you're there, don't forget to try a nice big cup of Beverly! Mmm-mmm Yeah!
(Blargh! MUCH worse than Tab!)
i like the warning: Natural Diuretic. This means that the effects of alcohol will feel stronger if you use it as a mixer? sign me up.
I'm still a die hard, though. Nothing's more intense than slammin a Dew. It's totally in my face. To the Extreme.
...derranged American kids will be drinking Bawl's and eating Pop Rocks in crowded rooms full of their school mates, taking many of them out without firing a shot.
I used to consume massive amounts of caffeine back in college. I even tried some caffeine-pills once...
All I can say from the experience is that it was very hard to code when my hands wouldn't stop shaking... (I didn't OD. I just had a low body mass.)
Later on, I came to realize that I could not function (think) without consuming substantial quantities caffeine. My mind would just shut down. I couldn't add 2 + 2.
So I started adding up how much caffeine I was actually consuming. It came out to the equivalent of about 3 liters of coke a day.
I quit cold turkey. Had a really *REALLY* bad couple of days. And then things got a lot better. And for some strange reason, my resting pulse dropped from 110 to 80 all by itself.
Mind you, I still load up on sugars while hacking... I just make a point to use non-caffeinated fruit juices...
Still, I am constantly amazed by people who insist on taking the absolute maximum of a drug. The "Lets figure out how much will kill me and then back off a little" philosophy. Even when I take something like acetaminophen, I intentionally take half the recommended dose. That's enough for me. Why should I take more?
What I do before coding is smoke a few crack rocks, and then shoot up with some freebase coke. After that, I eat as much amphetamines as I can, and then I can code like a madman.
/0ding d00ds".
OH yeah, I was just kidding about that. But, this seems to be the mentality of "xTr33m
No offense, really, but I think, if you're tired, sleep. Wake up and begin coding the next day, espically if you are working for an evil corporation!
I always have fresher ideas after sleeping anyway, jittery hands, sweaty palms, and racing thoughts never help.
Not everyone needs to be a crack-head Microsoft coder! =)
Official drink of Microsoft?
Yeah. It's cola with a smooth, chemical taste. Oh boy. Pepsi forever.
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Your honor is perfectly understandishable.
Caffine (if I could spell it right,) Dosen't destroy your body, it messes with your head and makes your body weaker after the effect wears off, but after a good sleep your fine again.
:)
Haven't you ever heard the saying what dosen't kill you only makes your stronger?
You must leave on the east cost, I don't think their are more then two people in south west Flordia that read slashdot.
Wouldn't caffeine and alcohol kinda cancel each other out?
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Adderall has some nasty side effects. At certain levels, you start to experience ticks, I personally get frigging eye tick at 30 mg. It also kills your appetite (which some people would consider good) and basically prevents sleep while you are using it :)
Dexydrine lasts almost as long (8-10 hours as opposed to 10-12 hours) and doesn't have as many side effects.
They also make a time-release Ritalin which supposedly lasts 8-10 hours as well.
Also, these pills aren't cheap. 10 mg adderall pills run about $1/pill, but they definately help me focus and stay awake. They aren't that strong, I mean if I don't sleep, 10 mg of Adderall isn't going to keep me awake. Some people get perscribed as much as 50 mg doses.
Also, remember these are all amphetamines, which means they are government controlled and regulated. It is not easy to find a doctor which will diagnose you for ADD, I personally had to go to an ADD institute (basically shrinks) which ran $200/visit.
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Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
"We have the tastiest bawls on the market."
"Nobody will care if your breath smells like our bawls."
"Special flavor, limited time only. Salty chocolate bawls."
"A mouthfull of bawls in the morning can perk up your entire day."
"Tell your mom, you want some bawls."
"Tell your dad, your mom buys bawls when you go out shopping."
"Bawls, share them with a friend."
"Bawls, 2.5 times the active ingredient of the competition."
Hot Dog ventors crying out "Bawls! Bawls! Get your frosty bawls here!"
At McDonalds "You want bawls with that?"
At Burger King "The bawls combo meal, 25% more meat than McDonalds"
Imagine endorsements...
Dennis Rodman "After a hard game, there's nothing I like more than sitting in the locker room enjoying the refreshing taste of bawls."
Rosie O'Donnel "Bawls, I never tried that, but if Tom Cruise asks me, I might."
Jim J Bullock "Bawls! I've been a fan since day one!"
Michael Jackson "Um, Uh, Ya know, woooo, BAWLS! Hee Hee, BAWLS!"
Chef from South Park (Isaac Hayes)"Come on children, gather 'round and get a good taste of bawls."
Bill Clinton "I tasted bawls once or twice, but I didn't swallow."
I have to stop here or I'll go on forever.
LK
For me, ginseng has been my primary stimulant ever since my stomach complained about my consumption of latte and Jolt.
"We mustn't be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology" -- Aldous Huxley
I tried not doing the usual get-the-coffee-right-after-I-get-up a few days ago. Didn't get the legendary headaches, but I was an absolute dumbass. Forgot keys, wrote some REALLY bad code, and was generally useless. The experiment lasted until noon.
And what could be better than that smell right after you pour the water onto the grounds in the press?
Time for a fresh cup.
As for the Bawls, I enjoy the amount of Coke I consume as well as its caffinated effect. This new drink seems to either remove one or overdo the other. Not for me thanks. Prediction: will recieve little to no shelf space in short order.
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Yeah. I'm Brazilian as well, and we have several different brands of Guarana soft drink. The stuff tastes like water with a LOT of sugar added. Yet it doesn't have nearly as much caffeine as a good'ole cup of Brazilian coffee! :)
On the other hand, guarana root, available as a bitter powder, has enough caffeine to make cocaine feel like kids' candy.
Later,
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This seems to be pretty rare in the US - I couldn't find it in San Jose or San Diego this year - but it's the UK Clubland drink of choice, mixed with Vodka. Basically, it has (from http://www.red-bull.com ) :
;) )
;)
* Taurin and glucuronolacton (natural and body-own agents, which serve as metabolism transmitters)
* caffeine
* b-complex vitamins
* carbon hydrates (carbohydrates?
This stuff is serious. I've had Jolt (bit hard to get in the UK) and Jolt has *nothing* on Red Bull. Two red bulls will get you 24 hour uptime with no concentration loss (drink when tired: repeat as necessary. Kicks in in ~15 minutes). I keep a can in the car in case I start to fall asleep on long drives.
With alcohol you get to be wide awake and drunk. Have too many (5 in one night) and from personal experience I got to be sick on a bouncer (and then got thrown out of the club, not suprisingly), went home with someone I really should have avoided, and then couldn't sleep for the whole night (no, it wasn't the girl... I desparately needed sleep at that point).
This and Pepsi Max (no more caffeine than normal cola as far as I know, but a nice taste) are the official drinks of the empeg, and they're always in my fridge
Hugo
The whole subject of Bawls was brought up on the majority of web sites that go for that sort of thing six months ago, if not further in the past. I find it ironic that people are still making silly jokes about it. Sure, it's a wacky name. Yes, it comes in an interesting bottle. But it's a beverage, you drink it. Get over it. :)
I was always under the impression that trendy beverages originate either on the east or west coast or in another country, meaning by the time it makes it to the midwest US, it's probably not really news. And I hate to say it, but Bawls has been fairly easy to find in Iowa for quite a long time. The real irony is I was just finishing off a bottle as I read this post.
some ideas...
...along the lines of "leggo my eggo".
"Nothing like kicking back and wrapping your lips around some Bawls."
"Bawls... put them in your head(mouth,etc..)"
"Time to suck down some Bawls".
"Keep your hands off my Bawls!"
"To avoid leakage, please don't shake your Bawls."
"For the ultimate in refreshement, go out and grab some Bawls."
and so on. Someone must be on crack over there...
This is so awful... Terrible. Probably one of those products which will dissapear when people start ODing on it.
When will it be in variety stores :-)
They're lots of authoritative sources on the subject available online; I came across the Coffee and Caffeine FAQ a while ago, and just found http://www.coffeescience.org/, to give only examples...
However, speaking from experience, non-lethal doses (in the 500 to 2000mg range) can be extremely unpleasant. The hallucinations are very much not fun, and the cardiac arrythmia can be most disturbing. But at least it won't kill ya.
Big Fat Disclaimer: I'm not a doctor, so don't even think of using this information as any sort of accurate reference. Don't even think about taking any kind of drugs based on my advice. You may wind up very silly-looking, very dead, or quite possibly both. I got this information from another possibly inaccurate source. Don't go messing around with your body chemistry and then come whining to me about it.
Now, Jones soda, there's some good stuff. Green apple is my fave, with cherry a close second.
I don't know what you're talking about, but here in Sweden Pepsi Max is a sugar free pepsi that's supposed to taste like real pepsi, but doesn't. (Not that real pepsi taste so good either). It does not contain very much caffeine, perhaps a bit more than regular pepsi, but not more than Jolt.
It uses the slogan "Maximum Taste - No Sugar". The taste is mostly aspartam, as far as I can tell.
/El Niño
This stuff has been out for a looooonnng time. (In fact I submited a link about it over 6 months ago, funny how something is not important one day then the next it is...) It is great, it taste wonderfull and WILL keep you up at night. My mother in law works graveyard shift (10pm-6am), if she drinks one of these at midnight, at 6 in morn she is still wide awake (otherwise she has a hard time staying awake on the ride home).
And the company is good too. I saw this stuff advertised on TV a long time ago, thought it looked good, made a special trip to the store that they said sold it, and no employe there had heard of it. I send Bawls a e-mail, next day the local distributer calls me up, finds out what store did not have it, promises to make sure they will in the future (and they did start carring it the next week, I shop their all the time now). Plus, I got a e-mail from Bawls asking me for my address, I send it off to them, they send me a free 6-pack so I can try it out. Not bad for a little company.
Only thing i can say bad about this drink is it is not on sale enough. Most times it is selling for $1.29 to $1.39 a bottle, and when it is on sale it is $.99 a bottle. Plus, the stores that sell it around here are pretty stupid, when it is on sale the signs say "Bawls Water".
There name is great as well, once my motherinlaw was with us, we stop in at a gass station and she goes in wanting to buy some "Bawls" (I am sure you can see where this is going). She wonders around the store, does not see any and goes to leave, the guy at the counter says "can I help you find something?". Without thinking she just says "No, you dont got no Bawls." The guy got *pissed* and started cussing her out before she could explain. she just left in a hurry.
Great drink, just dont take one before bedtime.
Elwood (I got Bawls)
Elwood
Jolt & 151....mmmm....
Wired & wasted!
Try using fresh coffee instead. There is no such thing as vintage coffee, as some people seem to believe.
Replacement for coffee? Nonsense.
People have always been proclaiming the death of coffe. "Tea is so much so and so stronger than coffee" they say. "Some stupid corporate bullshit soda is so much stronger than coffee".
I give those people my coffee. They fall down. They twich for a few moments before finally giving in to total cardiac arrest.
Do not fuck with me about coffee.
I repeat do not fuck with me about coffee.
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I'm not sure whether this is just local to Australia, but there is a drink called Red Eye Gold which contains guarana, caffiene, and ten other types of crud, sickly sweet, and pretty much consciousness distilled. I imagine this Bawls stuff is similar.
Its the kind of thing i only take occasionally because i know anything this powerful has to be way addictive. Anyone know the effects of prolonged guarana usage?
I hear ya. As soon as I see a barely dressed woman modeling for a product I understand the following things.
1) It's a new product trying to gain customers.
2) Their advertisers are as dumb as rocks
3) The product isn't worth my time if they feel that they must try to catch my attention with a barely clothed woman, probably because there product isn't that good.
And then I disregard the product entirely and move on.
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Josta soda has been available at least in the SF area for a couple years. And it's a guarana (sp) based product.
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I'm neither a chemist nor a cook but it sounds like the difference between melting and burning. Carmel is burnt sugar.
I've finally had it: until slashdot gets article moderation, I am not coming back.
> Any ginko users? Have you noticed any difference in your mental stimulation?
Definitely. That and Chromium Picolinate (sp?) was what I took to stay awake when I was a tape ape, mounting tapes all night long. Much less edg than caffiene, did not wear off nearly as quickly. But long term, it may have been just as bad for me, where I became very emotionally unstable, though severe depression did not help either.
Caffeine gives me a short boost in that hyperfocused attention span that I need when coding, but in the long run it's destructive. I've actually written better code when drunk, but that's not really well-accepted at work.
I've finally had it: until slashdot gets article moderation, I am not coming back.
That's scary ... that's how strychnine works too. So hey, all the hax0r d00dz who think caffeine is free energy may as well take strychnine.
I've finally had it: until slashdot gets article moderation, I am not coming back.
Heinlein advocated (in Job: A Comedy of Justice) taking a shower as hot as you can possibly stand, then quickly throwing the temperature controls to ice cold. I've tried this, and it does seem to work, at the very least, it's like a reset switch for your nervous system. Try to keep your screaming down to a minimum for those who do have the hangovers though.
He then suggested a Bloody Mary for afterwards, and I believe that the axiom about the "hair of the dog that bit you" has been proven to ease hangover suffering. It had something to do with how the liver breaks down alcohol, and that the second stage of alcohol breakdown makes you feel crappy, but as long as you keep your liver doing some of the first-stage breakdown, you still feel okay.
When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout. --Robert A. Heinlein
heh its not, this drink is to classy for that, and too expensive, it wont make you jitter butit will damn good make you not be tired, I keep all the bottles, the bottles aret he shit, they are the reason i buy this shit... (caffeine has no effect on me) Most my friends drink bawls no one ever gets jolted, i myself have no efffect at all because ive been drinking and ingesting large ammounts of caffeine since i was a baby so its lost effect, its a damn curse!!! heyh, well in 2600's issue of like 3 quarter, in 1997 they have an article called hack your head, look into that article for some cool and safe recipes to keep ya up all night. by the way I have the poster at my wall, the one with the naked chick on the horse, it just makes me love my bawls...
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I can see my chest moving right now, and I'm doing something like 78 beats/min (is that too high for just sitting in front of a computer?). I'm skinny though and not in pain...
Is there any particular brand of Guarana powder that we should look for? I wonder if you can get that in the US? It seems a lot safer than smoking crank...
I wonder if the truck drivers and bikers know about this?
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>it tastes like shit.. not that I eat shit mind you. :)
:p
...but you've tasted it?
by Mike Buddha -- Someday the mountain might get him, but the law never will.
Drink name: Jumpstart
Recipe: Equal parts grain alcohol, Jolt Cola
Purpose: For people who want to make really stupid decisions at double normal speed.
i tried Pepsi MAX when i was in Italy this past March. it tasted like a cross between Pepsi and Pepsi One.... it didn't hit me as anything that had caffeine, though....
:)
when i was in college, i used to go to my four-hour Electronics lectures with eight (8) cans of Jolt. I'd start out by chugging the first two before class started, then nurse the remaining six over the course of the class. on days when i felt i needed to "cut back", i substituted Pepsi for Jolt. did Jolt about three days out of five.
right now, i have between two and eight of those little "demi-tasse" cups of espresso every day...
hmmmm... maybe i'll cut back a little before i get cancer or something. nah.
When politicians are involved, everyone loses.
We we *lucky* enough to be a test market at my school when that stuff came out, and the pepsi guys came into one of my classes and gave us all free josta and shirts and hats. I took one sip and gave it to the first person who would take it. I think it is still around in limited quanities, in the coolers at gas stations it never took up more than one or two slots.
Definitely Quakers here :)
On another note, has anyone seen Bawls in Canada? I've heard Blue talking about it for ages, yet I've never seen it anywhere here. Not that I'm going to cry over it, I'm just curious.
Much higher coffeine concentration is also true
of the "Energy Drinks", eq Red Bull. BTW the
original Austrian Red Bull can says "Do not mix
with alcohol" in small print. (Everybody does of
course) I think this is due to some amino acid
that improves alcohol absorbtion into blood.
Ever wonder how the sys admin running the systems that the /.'d sites are on, feel? heh. It's taking 4 mins to load /. and this just aint cool.
:D
Remind me to avoid 4 million caffeine indulged fellow nerds next time
--
I used to take psuedophedrine HCL (generic Sudafed) when I had a lot of sinus headaches. I would conteract the slight sleepiness by taking half doses and drinking lots of Coke. I felt I was "stepping into" my monitor and just coding like crazy. No distractions, no interruptions to my train of thought.
However, I did jump a foot after a co-worker touched my shoulder to get my attention!
Devin
ps. I also love Bailey's and Coffee.
If you read carefully, it says that the *form* of caffeine is 2.5 times stronger than normal. The actual caffeine content is similar to a cup of coffee -- just like jolt.
I've been brewing iced tea lately with Celestial Seasonings honey lemon ginseng tea. It gives me a boost without getting me too jumpy. My hands start to shake if I drink too much coffee.
It tastes better than coffee, has a cool blue glass bottle, is cheaper than crack, allows one to walk around proclaiming that one has 'just sucked down some Bawls' and is otherwise pretty darn nifty stuff.
The downside -- you knew there had to be a downside, right? -- is that it's mucho very expensive a lot (for the cost of a 12oz bottle of Bawls, I can buy an entire pot of coffee) and is hard to find.
If you haven't had any Bawls, give it a shot. If you can't get it, you're not missing much.
InitZero
I always thought the way to get yer caffiene going was to brew a pot of coffee with Water Joe (or Krank20, or whatever they call caffienated water where you come from). That's where you really get your BANG...
I read a comparison chart of the caffeine in drinks. Coffee and tea were at the top, Jolt had about a third the caffeine of coffee, and Coke had half the caffeine of Jolt. So which one is this new guarana drink comparing itself to?
This drink sounds like pisswater compared to E-Maxx.. The ultimate beverage for programmers.
No..I dont work for them.
Bowie
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I've had an unopened bottle of that stuff on my desk for months now. I'm too scared to drink it because the bottle looks like a big nubby dildo.
_______
2B1ASK1
I remember when Jolt came out, there were mass predictions that coffee would become a thing of the past. Same when Red Bull came out (you do get that in the US, don't you?). I say now what I said then; nothing will replace coffee. Ever. It may have less caffeine that some of the funky drinks out there, and it may be trivial when compared to caffeine tablets, but coffee was, and always will be, the drink of choice. It's not just the drinking; it the wondering which machine to use; the cool-looking percolator, the fancy expresso maker, the baby expresso maker, the cafetiere... then there's the pouring into the huge Babylon 5 mug, the inhalation of that heady aroma, the first sip... pardon me, I'm getting aroused. Gotta go.
Old news in Brazil... we have here the best soft drink in the world, and it is called Guaraná Champagne Antarctica: http://www.antarctica.com.br./english/reguana.htm .htm (argh!), its mascot is... a penguin!.
Even if it is
Coca-Cola is for soft drinks what rWindows is for OSs. Guaraná is the real thing -- just like GNU.
Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
DA, DBA, SysAdmin, Data Modeller
GNU Project, Debian GNU/Lin
I don't know about Europe, but down here in New Zealand, Pepsi MAX is caffine free.
--- "If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?"
I grew up in Ecuador and guarana is very popular there. Mixed with alcohol, there is an increased effect, if that's your ultimate goal. I look forward to tasting this stuff.
Linux: Because rebooting is for adding new hardware.
I read a study once that determined that diuretics increased the amount of the subjects urine. This had a psychological effect on their "drunkeness." Kind of like having a keg party with O'Douls.
Linux: Because rebooting is for adding new hardware.
I love your perspective....
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if you do no want to sleep drink some guarana powder stirred in water . It will make you stay awaken for 3 or 4 days
Do you do this often?
Linux: Because rebooting is for adding new hardware.
... as long as we know you're kidding? (Bambi?)
What's with this whole retro-PC thing anyway. I'm starting to see it all over. I'll admit some the the PC stuff goes way over-board, but I don't think this is the way to get back at them.
I guess they're only targeting less than 50% of the population. That's marketing for ya.I'll stick with my mocha, thanx.
I drink my Dew everyday like a good little coder, but I don't like the side effects. I've quit and had the three-day headache from withdrawals many times. Unfortunately, I always end up back on the Dew train. This time I'm trying to slowly reduce my intake, rather than quitting cold turkey. It's a slow painful death..
cpeterso
Nope, You just get terribly tense AND you haven't
got the slightest sense of balans / concentration left.
Here are the best items to have on hand while
staying up at night coding:
1) Espresso machine from Starbucks
2) Espresso roast whole beans
3) Burr grinder
4) Chocolate covered espresso beans
5) Penguin caffeinated peppermints
-Mike
"there's too much blood in my caffeine system"
P.S. - it's spelled eSpresso.
--- witty signature
Yellow #7 says it all.
There is already a soda with guarana root in it.. Can't remember the name but tastes like bubble gum.
But I will always love my Jolt.
I ate my tag line.
I ate my tag line.
-=Ellis (D)25=-
I don't think it has caffine, but of course the site couldn't load. But I guess you could guinni pig your self off to test it out!
I ate my tag line.
I ate my tag line.
-=Ellis (D)25=-
This is way off the subject, but all the moderators and story reviewers hate me and /. crashes ie when I try to post.. But look at this (from http://www.microbytes.com/)
Intel Celeron 500 (128k) $310.00
I ate my tag line.
I ate my tag line.
-=Ellis (D)25=-
A bench mark using the k7 500 w/ a viper 770 tnt card was scoring a fps rate of 70 in the crusher demo is also not worthy new according to them. I could go on with everything I have sent. Like alternative cases to fuels.
I ate my tag line.
I ate my tag line.
-=Ellis (D)25=-
It might be, but who know, they are sellin it there. Supposably it's only for canadians only.. Some bs like that.. I saw it on planethardware.com
I ate my tag line.
I ate my tag line.
-=Ellis (D)25=-
Hensens (www.hensens.com (i think)) Has a varity of diffrent soda in which they use herbs. I wish that the would come out with a mix of all the diffrent drinks into on. Combining gives you that cloud 9 feeling.
I ate my tag line.
I ate my tag line.
-=Ellis (D)25=-
I wish somehow we could stimulate ADH production when drinking. No urine->no dehydration->no hangover!
And no detoxification! Alcohol is a diuretic for a reason! It's a poision.
Don't get my wrong, I like alcohol, especially vodka, since you stay drunk for quite a while, and it has lesser diuretic properties.
Lowmag.net
It wasn't this drink, but 2 guarana pills, washed down with an mocha espresso. My heart rate jumped up to about 200 bpm. I could actually see my chest moving. And it hurt.
I just layed down and forced myself to sleep it off. There was no coding that day.
Now, I just hang on the edge of an over dose of Penguin Mints. About 20 a day. If my heart hurts one day, I just cut back for two.
I don't think I need this stuff.
Ginko and a hand full of Penguin Mints... Makes for an interesting combination. I had taken ginko in the past, but never had much effect. One day before a review class for Bio 201, I just desided to try the ginko thing one more time. This time I took 3 times what was recommended, and my usual 20 Penguin Mints. Lets just say that the descriptions of plants reproductive organs my teacher was giving in his lecture became a little to visual for me. Though I did remember everything for the test, and still to this day (6 months later), and probally for the rest of my life. Freaky.
No, diuretic just means it'll make you piss more. Mix it with alcohol, which is also a "natural diuretic", and you're just asking for an amazing hangover. Note: Hangovers are caused by dehydrating your body. To avoid them. Don't passout. Stay awake until you start to sober up a little bit. Drink as much pure water as you can. Go to sleep. Wake up and make lots of noise for the benefit of your friends who didn't follow these instructions.
When are hackers going to take up this delightful habbit? There are already a significant number of pot smokers amongst us, I think that's mostly just a social thing. Nootropics have been popular in some circles for a long time, I've never associated them with hackers since they are mostly just myths. Combine our love of caffine with the the demand for higher performance and we've got a community ripe for drugs. I've never taken EPO or doped but if you've got a marathon session coming up, doping and increasing the red blood count while injesting a good batch of some "high octane" caffinated beverage could produce better effects, you'd be perked up and you'd have more physical energy and energy to think with.
I've also known bikers who, for the final kick, take a couple shots of some triple strength espressor with a lot sugar (glucose) in it and a bit of rum "to take the edge off" After a really good solid caffine binge I tend to get a little twitchy, the rum sounds like a good idea, anyone do that? What you really want is alertness but you don't want that hyper caffinated feel.
Any ginko users? Have you noticed any difference in your mental stimulation? The only herbs I've really noticed a difference with is kava kava and St. John's wort, both of which are very calming and relaxing, a good cup of Celestial Seasonings Tension Tamer Plus works wonders after a particularly bad day at work. I've taken ginko before but never noticed any difference, I don't take anything regularly though. I'd imagine that echinecia, ginseng, ginko blends on a regular basis and then some doping a few days before combined with a highly caffinated beverage with a little rum might be about the optimal drug induced hacking session without getting it to really serious stuff. Not that I would encourage that but it would be interesting to know if you ever need that extra "punch" for something really important (like when WWIII breaks out and the need *me* to write the new code to control the bombs or something, I sacrifice my body a little for that job...)
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I just ordered a case off the website. I figured I might as well find out what Bawls taste like. I called the number instead to order it though, their website is getting hammered on.
It's $35/case of 24. Not too bad considering shipping is included, and shipping is probably aroudn $8 or so. So it ends up being just over $1/bottle.
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I'm not a big fan of carbonated drinks overall, but this stuff has SO MUCH caffine in it and so much sugar that I couldn't drink more than a couple sips... The bottle was pretty damn cool tho..
Maybe it's just my Englishness coming through, but I think coffee is pretty disgusting, and I don't really rate colas either. The only caffeinacious drink I touch is tea, and I drink that because I like it, not "to get wired". Like someone else above said: if I'm tired, I go to sleep. I'd rather not keep myself awake and alert artificially.
Guaranine (or Guanine, same thing) is caffeine. Gather round, and let me read from the xanthine book.
;). It can, however, be habit-forming, just like anything else. It's really a case of mind over matter - people are used to coffee, so they get headaches without it. I have never experienced withdrawal from any drug, and i've used caffeine, ephedrine, and pseudoephedrine on a semi-chronic basis. Crashing, however, is another matter.
Xanthines are chemical structures related to uric acid. They are processed similarly (By the enzyme xanthine oxidase), so inhibitors of this enzyme are often used in the treatment of gout.
In any case, the xanthine we know and love, caffeine ((1,3,7)tri-methyl-xanthine), is an adenosine blocker. This is the inhibtory neurotransmitter we talked about earlier. It makes you tired. Blocking it makes you un-tired, but not necessarily stimulated. Caffeine is really an "anti-somnolent" rather than a true stimulant, but it can stimulate the release of adrenaline. Certain xanthines (theobromine, theophylline) are found in chocolate and tea, and as you pointed out, are less potent than caffeine. Dogs process xanthines much slower than humans - thus the chocolate toxicity (which sets in around 200-250 grams, it's quite a bit).
Cocaine works a little differently. It doesn't block receptors, it inhibits the reuptake of adrenaline and dopamine. By doing this, the brain is flooded with these "feel-good" monoamines. The addictive nature of cocaine lies in its dopaminergic quality.
So - caffeine isn't very addictive
Anyone seen these new Snapple "Element" drinks? They have Fire, Water, Earth, Lightning and things along that line.. The Fire (Energy) one has Ginseng, Gaurana, and Ginko Biloba in it, and I bought some today. I have yet to drink it yet.. I threw it in the fridge and went back into town. heh. Some of the others have different "uses" and have different ingredents. Heck, the relaxation one has St. Johns Wort. Another has bumblebee pollen, for who knows what. heh. Anywho, anyone heard of these? And if you have, and tried them, what do you think?
-- Len
So you say you want to get absolutely 'faced, but you can't bear to part with your beloved green can of fluorescent yellow Mountain Dew? Well, look no further. Mt. Dew and Bacardi Limon go fabulously together. You can even make it pretty strong before you taste the alcohol.
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Actually, the carbonation in the soft drink makes the alcohol get absorbed more quickly.
I had a couple of bottles of Bawls _months_ ago. It really wasn't very strong. The bottles are cool though. I keep one on a shelf in my cube. Everyone asks, "What's this? Bawls...?" heh,heh,heh
Blue (of http://www.bluesnews.com) has been singing the praises of this stuff for quite a while now. I do too, since my buddy Back East sent me a case for Xmas!! Strange, but tasty and effective. Wonderful mixer!
Ever have a rum and coke?
or Jack Daniels and coke?
They both have those dark-red guarana berries in it.
Pepsi recently discontinued it, as I am told (this was how I was introduced to it about a year ago).
Similiar in taste to Cream Soda, but definitely caffinated [sp??] ...
Josta never gave me a buzz, though (and I've never really cared for coffee, so it's not like I have a high tolerence for caffine).
"He who questions training trains himself at asking questions." - The Sphinx, Mystery Men (1999)
Slightly OT, but, am I the only person that has felt neurotic after drinking Pepsi One? I drank one can and I felt like I was on a magic carpet ride. I've never touched the stuff since. A few of my friends have also had a similar experience with the stuff.
--- A Jesus Fish eating a Darwin Fish only proves Darwin's point.
i had JUST popped one when i read taco's posting
-- your knees hurt, don't they?
Guarana is one of the most popular soft
:)
drinks in Brazil. You can buy it in any supermarket and it has been available for decades!
You can even buy it in the US if you go to
some brazillian neighbourhood.
BTW, if you do go to a brazillian neighbourhood
try some feijoada
Cheers!
Zac
The resulting brew is indistinguishable from pure coffee, but it's much more effective. The immediate kick is the same as coffee, but it remains at the same level for 6-8 hours, instead of decaying after an hour or two as regular coffee does. Guarana's wonderful stuff.
Yeah, it's spanking stuff. However, I heard the the EU is thinking of making taurine illegal, meaning that RB will cease to exist in its current form.
Might not be true, though.
Is that a nude woman in the top corner of the home page?
No sig.
...needs some "Bawls". That was the slowest page load I've suffered in a while. :)
Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.
How about Corn Nuts' jingle? I was listening to the radio, and all of a sudden I hear these girls singing "Bust a nut! Bust a nut! Everybody loves to bust a nut!" Almost ran my car off the road laughing.
Wonderful stuff, Afri. Tastes horrible, gawd knows what's in it, but it sure works. IME, it's equivalent to about 3 bottles of Jolt.
;)
Or maybe it's just the taste that wakes you up.
blue of bluesnews has talked about this some time ago. he said it was better then dew/jolt. their jingle is sureal... i can't beleve they got it played on the radio.
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
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nmarshall
The law is that which it boldly asserted and plausibly maintained..
--Colonel Burr 1783
...hmmm must be work of discorda.
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
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nmarshall
The law is that which it boldly asserted and plausibly maintained..
--Colonel Burr 1783
In their "what is it" page, they say:
It's just more marketing. If it tastes like Josta, I'll pass. I tried some of that a couple of years ago and I thought it was nasty.
Oh, go on, check out my job.
This stuff is from Guarana. Read the caffeiene/coffee FAQ for more info.
m l
http://www.cs.unb.ca/~alopez-o/Coffee/caffaq.ht
I don't consume caffeine (even Dr. Pepper gives me a migraine) and I'm a fine coder :) My code works and makes sense... Except for once when I had a project that needed finishing by the next day, I satyed up all night without sugar or caffeiene and kinda blacked out at bout 5:30 in the morning because I had been pushing weird hours all week.. I got woke up at about 7 or so and noticed that the project was working, I didn't understand how I did it, or when I did it, and I couldn't make heads or tails out of the code that mysteriously written while I could not rememeber anything, but it worked and I used it :)
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
Yep, I am pretty sure it's the same thing --I used to consume a lot of Pepsi Max when I lived in Europe a year ago; came back to the US after a long absence and picked up Pepsi One: same thing, Max is a little bit sweeter, IMHO.
;-)...
No big surprise there; those of you who who spent significant amounts of time on both sides of the Atlantic and are caffeine-addicted would probably agree that the Euro versions are usually a bit sweeter than the US (but with little less flavor tho). E.g. Euro Coke (not Coca-Cola Classic, the can and design are slightly different, Coca-cola never changed the formula in Europe, AFAIK) doesnt use corn syrup but plain sugar; actually it'd taste more like US Pepsi if it werent for Pepsi's vanilla flavor (which the Euro version has less of).
But if you think Pepsi One is bad, you havent tasted Euro 'Coca Cola Light' (not 'Diet Coke') which is absolutely horrible...
Hehe... I could go on... You have to go down to Atlanta and visit the World of Coca-Cola
Tea is by far the healthiest form of stimulant, for several reasons.
Firstly, it contains theobromine and theophylline in addition to caffeine. Some people find this increases the "hit" compared with caffeine alone, others, like me, find it produces a more gradual and sustained buzz without the crashing comedown at the end, and aiding rather than hindering concentration, even towards the end of a 36-hour hackathon.
Secondly, it's absolutely loaded with flavonoids, antioxidants which can help to prevent heart disease, thrombosis, liver damage, even cancer.
Thirdly, a recent report suggests eating chocolate might actually be rather good for you, and the ingredients listed as beneficial are all present in tea. Again theophylline and flavonoids play a role.
So, eat chocolate, drink tea, and live a healthy life.
--
Jamm!n
Jamm!n
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Hmm, magic carpet ride? I better pick up a six pack, maybe mix it with a little St. John's wort and ginseng and enjoy.
George
I find that I can increase my productivity by switching to St. John's Wort tea after my 3rd mug of coffee, it calms the jitters and keeps me from punching cabinets when I'm on rough call.
Of course, since I'm doing overnights this week my caffeine intake has tripled.
George
ok ... so they caffine they use is 2.5x more potent ... but how much is in there? I see no where that it says cup for cup it has more kick than coffee.
.. anyone care to enlighten me with a url?
Then again the page is slow and I'm impatient
As long as we are on the subject of CNS (Central Nervous System) stimulants, I thought I might provide some information. I highly doubt that anyone will actually see this, seeing as the "Bawls" story will be forced out of the spotlight in a couple hours (it is 1:26am PST right now), but what the hell.
Two of the many different CNS stimulants are:
1. caffeine
2. strychnine
Plus a whole lot more like, pentylenetatrazol, doxapram, methylphenidate, picrotoxin, guarana, ma-huang (ephedrine), chromium picolinarate, and numerous others.
Slashdotters are probably most interested in caffeine, as opposed to...nikethamide.
Caffeine is a member of the methylated xanthine family that goes by the chemical name of 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine. The methylated xanthines are:
They stimulate the CNS, act on the kidney to produce diuresis, stimulate cardiac muscle, and relax smooth muscle. Caffeine is a powerful CNS stimulant, theophylline less so, and theobromine is virtually inactive in this respect. Caffeine excites the CNS at all levels.
Strychnine is is the primary alkaloid in Nux Vomica, the seeds of a tree native to India. Strychnine was introduced into Germany for use as a rat poison, but was not used in medicine until 1540. It's use did not become widespread until about 200 years later.
Strychnine produces excitation in all portions of the CNS, and is a powerful convulsant. Strychnine can also affect blood pressure.
Wait a minute, why am I writing this? It is now 2:04 PST and what have I to show for it? I guess I told everyone stuff they already know about caffeine, and a bunch of irellevant information regarding strychnine, a substance that few will happen across.
The moral of the story? Don't spend 45 minutes writing up a story that people either a)don't care about, or b)already know.
I guess that I just can't pass up a chance to copy stuff out of big textbooks from the bookshelf.
Anyway, all the information came from The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics by Gilman and Goodman.
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Who neeeds those flavored cafeine drinks?
Try krank20 -- Cafinated water.
I can't seem to find a website for it, but I had itin Guelph, Ontario, Canada, at one of the UoGuelph's coffe shops.
And if you still want flavour, a) Make coffee with it (guarenteed 3 waking days), or Kool-aid... The possibilities are endless!
More Caffeine. NOW
Am I the only one for whom the bawls page refuses to load? Looks like the /. effect claimed another victim
Tell a man that there are 400 Billion stars and he'll believe you
Anyone here have access to Pepsi MAX? I drank a can or two whil in europe and it was the strongest friggin thing I ever had... I was wired all day. From what I hear, it's illegal in the states because there's so much caffeine in it. It was mighty tasty too boot. Anyone out there care to start a service to allow those of us who can't buy it at the local 7-11 to get some of this stuff? Would be mighty handy for those late night coding sessions...
Tell a man that there are 400 Billion stars and he'll believe you
nothing much right now, just the usual Drum. Ofcourse since I'mdutch I'll be doing the real smoking tonight... gotta love the dutch coffee-shops, where coffee is seldom poured. And so the circle is full, and we're back on coffee :)
No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness.
--Sheikh Abd-Al-Kadir, 1587
Correct me if I'm wrong but:
A diuretic causes you to piss because it supresses the level of ADH (anti-diuretic hormone) in your body. The lack of this hormone in the body triggers urine production.
I wish somehow we could stimulate ADH production when drinking. No urine->no dehydration->no hangover!
The truth is more important than the facts.
-Frank Lloyd Wright
does anyone no how much of this b awls you would have to drink in comparison to 50-100 cups of cofee to prevent poisoning from radation?
-DAVEO
If I remember correctly I think Blue started drinking this stuff at least a year ago or so. He's still alive, so I guess it's not particularly harmful...
:)
I had some kind of guarana-flavored soda test-marketed by Coke when I was out in California in 97 and didn't find anything special about it. I don't think it was severely caffeinated, though.
But I'll try anything once.
(excluding veggies)
Stick to amphetamines... much better buzz.
t o b e
Hmmmmmm.........where'd all my bandwidth go?
Oh, yah. www.bawls.com is on my network. I've been slashdotted ! =)
But on an on topic thread, Bawls is fairly interestsing stuff. Being new to this area (Miami Florida, where I work and where Bawls is from) I tried Bawls recently. LOTS of caffeine. I don't think i slept that night (seeing as i had it at 11pm). The taste was interesting- hard to place...
But you should all go out and buy some bawls - its the perfect "I have to code for 3 weeks straight and have no time for sleep" drink.
And yes, for those of you who wondered. The woman on the page IS naked.
-Rit, a SysAdmin whose still trying to find his bandwidth after a link from /.
Im from brazil , and here I drink guarana soft drinks since I was a kid and it never made me feel awaken....
if you do no want to sleep drink some guarana powder stirred in water . It will make you stay awaken for 3 or 4 days .
of some effects of radiations existence?
Perhaps we should have always spelled the word "reradiation" with the colon and question mark, to remain mindful of quantum chromodynamic's insidiousness?
Heat table sugar on your stove (students; that means hotplate or "BIC" array, or even candels), in a double boiler, (the temperature it burns at is extremely close to the temperature it "cooks" at) and it first turns to a clear liquid. But then it turns brown (becomes caramel). Why?
Is the answer to that question the basis for the effects (experience?) of such beverages (at the "mind's" quantum levels)?
Hint: Because, isn't everything caused by the cause of that cause?
According to a fabulous book called Buzz, which is about alchohol and cafeine, here's how caffeine works.
When your neurons fire, they excrete, seemingly as a by-product, a chemical which has an inhibitory neuro-transmitter effect. There are receptors on your neurons which uptake this by-product and it makes it less likely for the neuron to fire. Caffeine resembles this by-product enough for it to lodge in the receptors, but not enough for it to WORK as a signal. So the by-product is less likely to be a signal to inhibit the neuron, and thus the neurons keep firing longer, until the concentration of the by-product is high enough in relation to the caffeine to have the slowing effect. The more caffeine you drink, the more of the by-product you need before your brain stops cycling madly on conections.
But if you test performance (in some way) of non-caffeine drinking people before a dose of caffeine and after, then give them the same dose for two weeks, and test them again, you find that the second test of the second set is identical to the first test of the first set. That is, they've completely adjusted to the caffeine.
So after two weeks of constant dosage, you're not getting anything out of it. You're only suffering the effects of not getting it. So the way to get a buzz out of caffeine is to not drink it when you don't need it. OR DRINK A LOT WHEN YOU DO.
But guanine (the active ingredient in guarana) isn't caffeine. It resembles it a great deal, just as the caffeine-like substances in chocolate do (there's also honest-to-goodness caffeine in chocolate). One caffeine-like substance in chocolate is much less potent than caffeine (7 times less?) -- but that's made up for by the fact that there's many times more of it in chocolate than there is caffeine.
So here are a few questions I don't know the answer for: how potent is guanine compared to caffeine per miligram? Is bawls quoting by effect or weight?
And, since guanine is related to caffeine and cocaine (this is a general description I've seen) does it have an addictive quality?
As a Brazilian, I must say this industrialized stuff is no real match for real guarana. Drink a big cuppa of real guarana with vodka and you'll be up and running for at least 8 hours...
We have stuff out this way called Boost! [No, it's not that healthy crap.] It's great for sugar/caffeine intake :). http://www.takaboost.com. It also goes great when mixed with Absolut.
-Kris
You're all forgetting about Afri-Cola. It's made with cane sugar and ranks twice as strong as jolt. It's the superior caffinated beverage for those with distinguished tastes..
Are you sure this isn't an OC'ed 333?
Intel's site only lists Celerons up to 466 Mhz.
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