I wish I could have said that so well. (But it's more like 600 million at the top and 6 billion at the bottom when it comes to screwing the Earth.)
But where to start?
Transparency and accurate information without the snails pace and obfuscation of the academics would help us rescue politicians from the lies they are forced to tell.
I wish some of the good pieces from/. could be more easily presented elsewhere to non-nerds.
I do pass some on to politicians which is based on./ discussions but its often hard work.
Btw. If anybody were to summarise/. on certain topics what's the position? Is/. GPL?
NetNexus did something along those lines that did affect UK Government policies - possibly. I think a better job could be done with the/. archives.
Nature's report on Lonnie
Thompson's work (Ohio State University) says
This may well dent Kilimanjaro's status as a tourist attraction,
and people in surrounding communities who rely on the mountain's
glaciers to release water during the dry season will suffer.
Similar effects will be seen in Peru, where the meltwater from
Andean glaciers generates hydroelectric power.
Over the past 25
years, Thompson has been documenting the impact
of climate change on ice packs near the equator. "These tropical
glaciers are probably the most sensitive sites on Earth to [climate]
change," he says.
Seems convincing to me. Especially since it's the Andes as well
BUT are we talking decreased flow all year round or just the dry
season months, when melting ice feeds the rivers?
100,000 melting ice cubes can fill a bath. 10 fill a glass
How then do you explain the graphs. They show four ice-ages in the past 400k years. Taken from ice core studies, for each dip of the CO2 graph there is a similar dip in the temperature graph. The extended CO2 graph shows CO2 is well outside the range of the past 400k years. The rise is almost a vertical jump.
I have seen some speculation that the Sun has helped flip the Earth from ice-age to interglacial, driven to the extremes by CO2 feedback. But now we have changed CO2 seriously we are well out of that cycle.
Personally I am hoping that the weakening Gulf Stream (a consequence of Global Warming) will not cease in my lifetime. Then we will see some nasty localised cooling in Europe.
Probably a more noticeable effect than Global Warming is Global Wetting, due to increase evaporation. We are certainly noticing that.
Ice Ages, CO2 and Temperature are very strongly connected. See the graphs here. These suggest that the sun is not the main cause and human activity has prevented futher ice-ages. We wait to see what the other consequences are.
But Ice Ages, CO2 and Temperature are connected..
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Ice Ages, CO2 and Temperature are very strongly connected. See the graphs here. These suggest that the sun is not the main cause and human activity has prevented futher ice-ages. We wait to see what the other consequences are.
But I still don't know anyone who uses "data" in the singular.
I refer you to the Google searches in my earlier post:
Searched the web for "data are". (i.e. plural)
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,070,000. Search took 0.36 seconds
Searched the web for "data is". (i.e. singular)
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,970,000. Search took 0.60 seconds.
You may not know anyone who uses "data" in the singlular but
there are almost 3m pages on the web where it appears in the singular in
the above phrase.
I treat "data" and
"datum" as two different words. The surveyor measured from five different
datums. - This makes perfect sense.
As for your examples, let's take two words
information - singular noun. Plural: none
number - singular noun. Plural numbers
Your examples translate to
"Where's the information.". Singular.
"Send me the information.". Singular.
"The information seems to imply....". Singular.
"Some of the information". Singular.
"Pieces of information". Singular.
Just in general..
"the information". Singular.
and
"Where's the numbers.". Plural. -- Incorrect
"Send me the numbers.". Plural.
"The numbers seems to imply....". Plural. -- Incorrect
"Some of the numbers". Plural.
"Pieces of numbers". Plural.
Just in general..
"the numbers". Plural.
You may notice two of your examples do not
work for a plural noun. All the examples work
for a singular noun.
Apologies to Chambers Pocket Dictionary. The sentence should have been
The data is entered from the forms by a keyboarder. And the spelling
mistake was all my own.
But what gives you the right to say this dictionary
is wrong. If I remember well, I have seen a similar "singular
noun" entry in Web-sters-Dict-ion-ary. And it's
the tops!
But still no explanation of "analog datum".
"Data" is clearly a word that is finding its place in the
English language. As a plural noun, it sometimes nonsense. As a singular noun, it always makes sense.
Thank's for your politeness, given my irrational hatred (but rational
argument).However...
Dictionaries describe terms in language they do not define them.
In the end they follow useage and Google searches give the following.
Searched the web for "data are".
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,070,000. Search took 0.36 seconds
Searched the web for "data is".
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,970,000. Search took 0.60 seconds.
My chambers Pocket Dictionary Dictionary says
"When referring to
collective information, especially in electronic form,
data
is increasingly treated as a singular nown, since a unified concept
is often intended - The data is from the forms from a keyboard.
WHen the composite nature of the information is important, the
plural is often used - As more data accumulate, it may turn
out that there are differences - The data were easily converted
into numerical form. However, in these examples the singular
is also possible.
As a supporter of Constructivist Mathematics, who thinks the works
of Georg Cantor were a wasteful wrongminded distraction, I challenge
you to demonstrate that a datum of analog data (an "analog datum"?) is a
rational concept.
Try asking any surveyor how many data he measured last
week.
Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. This is off topic. But I can't help myself. "Viri" for "viruses" irritates me like f*** but using "data" as if it were plural makes me foam at the mouth.
I think this trend started in fringe science subjects that needed to appear posher than they actually were. Clearly perl.com's arguments apply mutatus mutandi to the "data" word too.
First of all. The CO2 levels created by recent industrialisation
have taken the world into a different pattern of weather already.
CO2 levels are already much higher than any of the four warm periods
between the ice ages of the last 400,000 years see
this graph.
Temperature data and graphs are
here
CO2 data and graphs are
here
There is possible disagreement as to the direction of causality - does temperature
drive CO2 or does CO2 drive temperature? But if CO2 drives temperature we are in
unknown territory and moving fast.
Dr. Gagosian says the possible change in Ocean Circulation is like
heading towards a cliff of unknown size. But there are other ways the world's
climate might change dramatically now it is rolling.
For example, there are enormous amounts of methane as methane hydrate
under the oceans (probably much larger than all the reserves of oil and
gas). As one leading researcher put it to me.
Methane hydrates have not had much effect over the past 400, 000 years
but now we are into a whole new ball game. Over longer time spans
catastrophic methane burps from under the sea have been shown to be part
of the Earth's climate. These have caused mass extinctions.
This, of course, is just one of several possibilities. The truth is
we've started changes we cannot control - we are travelling too fast
and we are in the dark. I don't know if we are going to fall of a cliff or
hit a tree but I am more than happy to pay for some headlights.
Tell the politicians to support internet learning.
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I have just emailed my Member of Parliament suggesting that our government encourage universities here to do the same at MIT.
To be effective the universities should be given credit that leads to increases in funding.
I hope others will contact their MP's too. A good way is Fax Your MP
Peer review worries me. It can be a club of academics with the same mad ideas and they will obviously accredit each others work. Mad ideas may have their place in helping us discover better ones but too often subjects protect themselves from the outside world by a range of entry barriers: eg. special language that is unnecessarily obscure or disbarring the "unqualified" from comment.
Software at least has some sort of empirical basis. We can actually ask "Does it work?"
But perhaps this last point is too naieve. Inb the UK we have failure after failure on large Government software projects. And the government IT "gurus" are still pushing the same old methodology.
I'm no expert on sleeping pills but I've come across those that know the dangers. The effects of Benzodiazapines, for example, are reported here.
I've also spoken to people that have taken SSI drugs, who say they are extremely addictive. One of these said that she got so sweaty that her make-up slid off her face!
>And I pay the government a *lot* of money for the privilege of driving on it. You may pay the government but you don't compensate for the ill-health and
deaths due to pollution. See, for example,
The Independent's story
Asthma in children: the damning new evidence we cannot ignore I suggest there is a market for a healthy environment for our
I don't suppose Ken Livingstone wants to go this far but wouldn't it be lovely to have towns without cars: Kids playing in the street, no pollution, peace and quite, less asthma, shops you can walk to.....
Why doesn't our so-called market economy cater for people like me... and lots of people I know
If my memory serves me well, I heard Negroponte talk about this sort of thing in the early 70's. I remember his example as an admrial directing nuclear submarines with arm gestures. Glad to see some progress.
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I wish I could have said that so well. (But it's more like 600 million at the top and 6 billion at the bottom when it comes to screwing the Earth.)
But where to start?
Transparency and accurate information without the snails pace and obfuscation of the academics would help us rescue politicians from the lies they are forced to tell.
I wish some of the good pieces from /. could be more easily presented elsewhere to non-nerds.
I do pass some on to politicians which is based on ./ discussions but its often hard work.
Btw. If anybody were to summarise /. on certain topics what's the position? Is /. GPL?
NetNexus did something along those lines that did affect UK Government policies - possibly. I think a better job could be done with the /. archives.
Nature's report on Lonnie Thompson's work (Ohio State University) says
Seems convincing to me. Especially since it's the Andes as well
BUT are we talking decreased flow all year round or just the dry season months, when melting ice feeds the rivers?
100,000 melting ice cubes can fill a bath. 10 fill a glass
How then do you explain the graphs. They show four ice-ages in the past 400k years. Taken from ice core studies, for each dip of the CO2 graph there is a similar dip in the temperature graph. The extended CO2 graph shows CO2 is well outside the range of the past 400k years. The rise is almost a vertical jump.
I have seen some speculation that the Sun has helped flip the Earth from ice-age to interglacial, driven to the extremes by CO2 feedback. But now we have changed CO2 seriously we are well out of that cycle.
Personally I am hoping that the weakening Gulf Stream (a consequence of Global Warming) will not cease in my lifetime. Then we will see some nasty localised cooling in Europe.
Probably a more noticeable effect than Global Warming is Global Wetting, due to increase evaporation. We are certainly noticing that.
And buy some long airline flights. Turn up the heat. Forget the future.
Ice Ages, CO2 and Temperature are very strongly connected. See the graphs here. These suggest that the sun is not the main cause and human activity has prevented futher ice-ages. We wait to see what the other consequences are.
Ice Ages, CO2 and Temperature are very strongly connected. See the graphs here. These suggest that the sun is not the main cause and human activity has prevented futher ice-ages. We wait to see what the other consequences are.
But I still don't know anyone who uses "data" in the singular.
I refer you to the Google searches in my earlier post:Searched the web for "data are". (i.e. plural)
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,070,000. Search took 0.36 seconds
Searched the web for "data is". (i.e. singular)
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,970,000. Search took 0.60 seconds.
You may not know anyone who uses "data" in the singlular but there are almost 3m pages on the web where it appears in the singular in the above phrase.
I treat "data" and "datum" as two different words. The surveyor measured from five different datums. - This makes perfect sense.
As for your examples, let's take two wordsYour examples translate to
"Where's the information.". Singular."Send me the information.". Singular.
"The information seems to imply....". Singular.
"Some of the information". Singular.
"Pieces of information". Singular.
Just in general..
"the information". Singular.
and
"Where's the numbers.". Plural. -- Incorrect"Send me the numbers.". Plural.
"The numbers seems to imply....". Plural. -- Incorrect
"Some of the numbers". Plural.
"Pieces of numbers". Plural.
Just in general..
"the numbers". Plural.
You may notice two of your examples do not work for a plural noun. All the examples work for a singular noun.
Apologies to Chambers Pocket Dictionary. The sentence should have been
The data is entered from the forms by a keyboarder. And the spelling mistake was all my own.
But what gives you the right to say this dictionary is wrong. If I remember well, I have seen a similar "singular noun" entry in Web-sters-Dict-ion-ary. And it's the tops!
But still no explanation of "analog datum".
"Data" is clearly a word that is finding its place in the English language. As a plural noun, it sometimes nonsense. As a singular noun, it always makes sense.
thanks to your help I may now be able to stop approaching people on trains and busses to argue about this.
Thank's for your politeness, given my irrational hatred (but rational argument).However...
Dictionaries describe terms in language they do not define them. In the end they follow useage and Google searches give the following.
Searched the web for "data are".
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,070,000. Search took 0.36 seconds
Searched the web for "data is".
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,970,000. Search took 0.60 seconds.
My chambers Pocket Dictionary Dictionary says
As a supporter of Constructivist Mathematics, who thinks the works of Georg Cantor were a wasteful wrongminded distraction, I challenge you to demonstrate that a datum of analog data (an "analog datum"?) is a rational concept.
Try asking any surveyor how many data he measured last week.
Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. This is off topic. But I can't help myself. "Viri" for "viruses" irritates me like f*** but using "data" as if it were plural makes me foam at the mouth.
I think this trend started in fringe science subjects that needed to appear posher than they actually were. Clearly perl.com's arguments apply mutatus mutandi to the "data" word too.
There are no datums in analog data.
I hope repitition isn't too boring or disallowed. But do look at this graph.
It does suggest that further ice ages are unlikely.
I hope repetition isn't too boring or disallowed. But do look at this graph.
It does suggest that further ice ages are unlikely.
First of all. The CO2 levels created by recent industrialisation have taken the world into a different pattern of weather already. CO2 levels are already much higher than any of the four warm periods between the ice ages of the last 400,000 years see this graph .
There are also other graphs which show a strong relationship between temperature and CO2 from the from the Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center.
Temperature data and graphs are here
CO2 data and graphs are here
There is possible disagreement as to the direction of causality - does temperature drive CO2 or does CO2 drive temperature? But if CO2 drives temperature we are in unknown territory and moving fast.
Dr. Gagosian says the possible change in Ocean Circulation is like heading towards a cliff of unknown size. But there are other ways the world's climate might change dramatically now it is rolling.
For example, there are enormous amounts of methane as methane hydrate under the oceans (probably much larger than all the reserves of oil and gas). As one leading researcher put it to me.
This, of course, is just one of several possibilities. The truth is we've started changes we cannot control - we are travelling too fast and we are in the dark. I don't know if we are going to fall of a cliff or hit a tree but I am more than happy to pay for some headlights.
I have just emailed my Member of Parliament suggesting that our government encourage universities here to do the same at MIT.
To be effective the universities should be given credit that leads to increases in funding.
I hope others will contact their MP's too. A good way is Fax Your MP
No, we cannot. A program cannot be proven correct.
Don't be daft. I meant "correct" in the ordinary everyday sense of the word that I learnt in childhood and still often use today.
You obviously mean "correct" in some post-Godel computer science way.
I have heard this behaviour called "Learn to Spell Forget to Think".
Peer review worries me. It can be a club of academics with the same mad ideas and they will obviously accredit each others work. Mad ideas may have their place in helping us discover better ones but too often subjects protect themselves from the outside world by a range of entry barriers: eg. special language that is unnecessarily obscure or disbarring the "unqualified" from comment.
Software at least has some sort of empirical basis. We can actually ask "Does it work?"
But perhaps this last point is too naieve. Inb the UK we have failure after failure on large Government software projects. And the government IT "gurus" are still pushing the same old methodology.
Are withdrawal symptoms an indication of "addiction"? I've just found "Antidepressant Seroxat tops table of drug withdrawal symptoms". The piece also says "In the top six, five of the drugs said to be causing withdrawal problems are SSRIs..."
Am I terribly wrong in mixing up "Sleeping Pills" with "Antidepressants"?
I'm no expert on sleeping pills but I've come across those that know the dangers. The effects of Benzodiazapines, for example, are reported here .
I've also spoken to people that have taken SSI drugs, who say they are extremely addictive. One of these said that she got so sweaty that her make-up slid off her face!
A better solution would be great.
>And I pay the government a *lot* of money for the privilege of driving on it.
You may pay the government but you don't compensate for the ill-health and deaths due to pollution. See, for example, The Independent's story Asthma in children: the damning new evidence we cannot ignore
I suggest there is a market for a healthy environment for our
>And I pay the government a *lot* of money for the priviledge of driving on it. You may pay the government but you don't compensate for the ill-health and deaths due to pollution. See, for example, The Independent's story I suggest there is a market for a healthy environment for our children. >And I pay the government a *lot* of money for the priviledge of driving on it.
You may pay the government but you don't compensate for the ill-health and deaths due to pollution. See, for example, The Independent's story Asthma in children: the damning new evidence we cannot ignore
I suggest there is a market for a healthy environment for our children.
>And I pay the government a *lot* of money for the priviledge of driving on it. You may pay the government but you don't compensate for the ill-health and deaths due to pollution. See, for example, The Independent's story I would suggest there is a market for a healthy environment for our children.
Just don't pollute me and my friends. If you don't smoke in my restaurant, please don't drive your car down my street.
I don't suppose Ken Livingstone wants to go this far but wouldn't it be lovely to have towns without cars: Kids playing in the street, no pollution, peace and quite, less asthma, shops you can walk to .....
Why doesn't our so-called market economy cater for people like me ... and lots of people I know
If my memory serves me well, I heard Negroponte talk about this sort of thing in the early 70's. I remember his example as an admrial directing nuclear submarines with arm gestures. Glad to see some progress.