As long as the OS permits users to turn down or turn off security measures- experienced users in order to do something they deem useful and noobs for just not knowing any better- followed by forgetting to turn them back on/up and then surfing to some-malicious-site.com or opening some-malicious-email then the liklihood of an unwanted installl/download > 0 yes?
Sounds like we will always need utilities to help out.
As technology evolves, so will the malware.
Compare this topic to that of graphics- in the beginning there was the.BMP. And Microsoft gave us the Paint program. But images evolved into other formats and movies. And that necessitated all kinds of cool graphics software-- needs not even Microsoft itself could fully imagine or fulfill.
There will always be a market for some next-big-thing..:-)
Downloading legal, content-owner-authorized movies is great. However, the majority of downloads now are illegal copies. And to be responsible to their stock holders the movie companies have to make this move.
Seeing a movie in a theater can be a great experience.
Paying $5.00 for a 40 cent box of candy is NOT.
Watching a P2P illegal movie downloader led off in a made-for-TV perp walk.. Priceless!
Below someone makes a great point about the Print button in Turbo Tax. That is, this could cause more people to shy away from electronic filing- which is the opposite of what the IRS wants.
These other companies (potential Oracle clients) have a responsibility to their stockholders to maximize their ROI. If they find high-quality, low-cost / no-cost open alternatives they would be crazy not to follow upon them.
This kind of analogy is no different than an individual buying a better-deal Honda over a GM car or shopping at Walmart instead of Ma-n-Pa's Shop-Of-Over-Priced Sundries.
Of course many will point the finger-of-evil at Walmart and Honda but that brings two other questions to mind-
How large does an entity have to be before folks begin to consider it evil?
Does it only apply if they MAKE money?
Things that make ya go "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm."
I usually hate open source because it is anti-capitalist, however, if it can help "companies" I find myself in uncharted territory. They have to act in the best interests of their companies and their clients too. What a fine little web we weave.
My point is that in America we are given opportunity, not promised success. For example, to get to my happy point in life I had to work the night shift at a 7-11 in a dangerous part of Norfolk, Virginia while I attended college at Norfolk State University during the day. In that time we were robbed twice, lived on danish that was being thrown away for being too old, and barely survived.
This wasn't working-for-the-man. This was my investment in my version of the American Dream. It made me a better, stronger person and I'm very glad I did it.
Many younger people aren't willing to make the sacrifice that would bring them their version of the American Dream and instead prefer to whine, point fingers, and plow forward with a negative attitude. But it doesn't have to be that way...
Nobody said it was all about money- it isn't. But the riches that can come with running one's own business can offer another opportunity- the opportunity to give back to the community. NOT through higher, confiscatory taxes but through voluntary donations, scholarships, and more.
This CEO is trying to have it both ways- support the stock holders desire to grow the company by putting the company foot in China (hoping for future business opportunities) while trying to not tick-off the Western world user-base.
It's quite Ferengi of him- and I respect that.
Plus watching him juggle all these balls at the same time is quite entertaining.
If this hypothetical Amateur software developer had skills good enough to create a competitive product then he would be in demand in the marketplace. If this were the case he would have a decently paying job wirting code for someone else until he finished his product in his spare time.
He would definately earn enough to purchase Visual Studio.Net and whatever else he needs.
The real barrier to Amateur software developers making it big are within their own minds- they really have to want this as their dream and never give up in pursuit of it.
Most give up too quickly-
Oh-- Apple gives away their development tools in an attempt to make up for the fact their user base (read: potential customer base) is sooo small that a serious entrepreneur-developer won't consider the ROI in supporting their platform worth the effort.
Yet another example of why it sucks to live in America: the idiocy in the air is thick as pea soup..
Indeed- you are correct and clearly representative of this position.
America is the land of Opportunity not the land of free-software-and-candy-for-everyone.
..wages have stagnated and prices are skyrocketing..
What real American would sit on his hind quarters waiting for his verison of the American Dream to be handed to him? In order to realize the American Dream one has to make it a priority in his life and chase after it.
Whining about the inequities of life do not advance one's position in life. Go for your dream- it's sitting out there waiting for you!
Maybe for the same reason so many people steal cable TV service even though there's really nothing good on to watch.
It's safe for us to assume each person will define good in his own way- so if a person is sitting in front of the cable tv (or software) he stole then he found something good for him.
Of course we reserve the right to cast the one-eyebrow-up look in his general direction;-)
The upside for smaller software companies is that law governing this kind of activity is more fully developed. Down the road this may help them if they find themselves in the same situation.
Just because technology allows copying of 1's and 0's doesn't mean one should do so.
Here's a question- if MS software is disliked by so many then why do so many pirate it?
It is worthy to note the extent to which the readers of this article are being misled.
The examples of people opting out are:
Male 47 year-old CEO - probably too busy running his business.
Female 39 year-old Finance person - uses the net during the day at work.
Female 57 year-old Lawyer - intellectual likely more comfortable with a book.
Female 50 year-old Flower shop owner - most people over 40 start to get set in their ways, choose hobbies they stick to, and have other priorities than surfing the net.
You want to impress me? Show some data that states people aged 15 to 40 are walking away from it. That would make my head turn.
On this point (botting) the EULA has been clear since the release of the game. If one knows something he is doing could be percieved as botting (at the discretion of the owner of the content) then why tempt fate by using it and then admit to using it?
They made a judegement call with their corporate reputation as the foundation upon which they stood to defend this principle. That didn't leave them any backing-down room. When you admitted to the programmable keyboard that gave them what they needed to completely defend their position.
(my) 32k compiled app, it takes about 15-20 seconds for the libs to load up.
We've written two VB.Net applications- one about 15,000 lines and another abour 35,000 lines and the larger one even allocates a 3,000,000 long integer hash table.
On the 1GB Ram/2.7Ghz machine neither takes more than 4 seconds to come up.
On a 256MB Ram/800Mhz laptop the larger one takes 20 seconds.
I've been dancing on the head of a pin here. I did commment on mucic but I specifically mention digital content and digital media. In this I'm referring to software- something also under assault by P2P and folks who think they have every right to redistribute it as they please.
This is why I've had to implement my own DRM and the law being determined for digital media now may very well also affect my small company.
And we do have the inherent right to protection of our digital property-- and therefore to realize revenues from it's regulated use.
In my case it's small-time commercial software- but the realities are the same-- P2P sharing of hacked code = loss in profits. Therefore I've got to implement my own DRM.
In the long-term, if I did make it big, the law being developed now will benefit little software guys too.
Struggling? Yes, that describes our little company. Struggling but happy nonetheless.
Me making a copy of some data you possess does not deprive you of that data.
It's the uploading to a P2P server or sharing with one's friends that does deprive the author of revenue. So that is the sealing aspect.
The true meaning of "information wants to be free" is that *everybody* can have a copy of the data and *everybody* can benefit from it.
Info wants to be free? Which communist manifesto does this come from? Information is a product just like my car. Steal the car, go to jail. Steal the data, there should be the same result.
The marginal cost of reproducing digital data is very close to zero. It only makes sense to not share data..
Whoa, now you are deciding for all authors how much money they are allowed to make? What if some random guy showed up at your job and said your efforts add marginally to our happiness, we are therefore reducing your pay to 25 cents per hour.
Bet that wouldn't fly too far. Now you understand how content owners feel.
Maybe we need a mechanism for society to compensate creators of interesting or useful information.. artifical scarcity..
We already have a mechanism: the marketplace. If honest people like something the vote with their dollars. If honest people do not like something they don't buy it. The only scarsity that exists is when one's wallet runs empty.
I promise you, if you open your wallet the music will be there waiting.
As a producer of digital media I would love to protect my investment.
But I do appreciate peoples desire to move it from one device to another.
I would make this wager, for most people on this site the only good DRM is no DRM. Most want stuff-for-free. So posting anything other than that will get one hammered most of the time.
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As long as the OS permits users to turn down or turn off security measures- experienced users in order to do something they deem useful and noobs for just not knowing any better- followed by forgetting to turn them back on/up and then surfing to some-malicious-site.com or opening some-malicious-email then the liklihood of an unwanted installl/download > 0 yes?
Sounds like we will always need utilities to help out.
As technology evolves, so will the malware.
Compare this topic to that of graphics- in the beginning there was the
There will always be a market for some next-big-thing..
Social skills are irrelevant..
You too will be assimilated.
Separately, if a person can afford all this techno-junk he can also afford to go to Charm School volunteer himself to go on Dr. Phil.
Downloading legal, content-owner-authorized movies is great. However, the majority of downloads now are illegal copies. And to be responsible to their stock holders the movie companies have to make this move.
Seeing a movie in a theater can be a great experience.
Paying $5.00 for a 40 cent box of candy is NOT.
Watching a P2P illegal movie downloader led off in a made-for-TV perp walk.. Priceless!
Counting the days till we see that on MSNBC...
Below someone makes a great point about the Print button in Turbo Tax. That is, this could cause more people to shy away from electronic filing- which is the opposite of what the IRS wants.
Note to self: re-read the EULA on Turbo Tax.
These other companies (potential Oracle clients) have a responsibility to their stockholders to maximize their ROI. If they find high-quality, low-cost / no-cost open alternatives they would be crazy not to follow upon them.
This kind of analogy is no different than an individual buying a better-deal Honda over a GM car or shopping at Walmart instead of Ma-n-Pa's Shop-Of-Over-Priced Sundries.
Of course many will point the finger-of-evil at Walmart and Honda but that brings two other questions to mind-
How large does an entity have to be before folks begin to consider it evil?
Does it only apply if they MAKE money?
Things that make ya go "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm."
I usually hate open source because it is anti-capitalist, however, if it can help "companies" I find myself in uncharted territory. They have to act in the best interests of their companies and their clients too. What a fine little web we weave.
My point is that in America we are given opportunity, not promised success. For example, to get to my happy point in life I had to work the night shift at a 7-11 in a dangerous part of Norfolk, Virginia while I attended college at Norfolk State University during the day. In that time we were robbed twice, lived on danish that was being thrown away for being too old, and barely survived.
This wasn't working-for-the-man. This was my investment in my version of the American Dream. It made me a better, stronger person and I'm very glad I did it.
Many younger people aren't willing to make the sacrifice that would bring them their version of the American Dream and instead prefer to whine, point fingers, and plow forward with a negative attitude. But it doesn't have to be that way...
Nobody said it was all about money- it isn't. But the riches that can come with running one's own business can offer another opportunity- the opportunity to give back to the community. NOT through higher, confiscatory taxes but through voluntary donations, scholarships, and more.
This CEO is trying to have it both ways- support the stock holders desire to grow the company by putting the company foot in China (hoping for future business opportunities) while trying to not tick-off the Western world user-base.
It's quite Ferengi of him- and I respect that.
Plus watching him juggle all these balls at the same time is quite entertaining.
If this hypothetical Amateur software developer had skills good enough to create a competitive product then he would be in demand in the marketplace. If this were the case he would have a decently paying job wirting code for someone else until he finished his product in his spare time.
He would definately earn enough to purchase Visual Studio
The real barrier to Amateur software developers making it big are within their own minds- they really have to want this as their dream and never give up in pursuit of it.
Most give up too quickly-
Oh-- Apple gives away their development tools in an attempt to make up for the fact their user base (read: potential customer base) is sooo small that a serious entrepreneur-developer won't consider the ROI in supporting their platform worth the effort.
Yet another example of why it sucks to live in America: the idiocy in the air is thick as pea soup..
Indeed- you are correct and clearly representative of this position.
America is the land of Opportunity not the land of free-software-and-candy-for-everyone.
What real American would sit on his hind quarters waiting for his verison of the American Dream to be handed to him? In order to realize the American Dream one has to make it a priority in his life and chase after it.
Whining about the inequities of life do not advance one's position in life. Go for your dream- it's sitting out there waiting for you!
We should find another way to profit from such labor?
Interesting idea, what did you have in mind?
Is this the labor of software creation or the labor of litigation?
If it's software payment I still prefer $$$ because I can convert that into whatever I like.
If a pirate pirated 100,000 copies and couldn't pay the court-determined fines then he could get community service? Close enough to jail time.
Maybe for the same reason so many people steal cable TV service even though there's really nothing good on to watch.
It's safe for us to assume each person will define good in his own way- so if a person is sitting in front of the cable tv (or software) he stole then he found something good for him.
Of course we reserve the right to cast the one-eyebrow-up look in his general direction
It's ironic that people might not be able to afford software but they could afford jail-time.
People will continue to steal till they get their hands slapped- maybe that's the lesson then need to learn.
The upside for smaller software companies is that law governing this kind of activity is more fully developed. Down the road this may help them if they find themselves in the same situation.
Just because technology allows copying of 1's and 0's doesn't mean one should do so.
Here's a question- if MS software is disliked by so many then why do so many pirate it?
If the government could find a way to track it and then TAX it this would not be an issue.
This is already done with alcohol, tobacco, and tangible items.
Because they cannot capture the technology genie in a bottle they can't effectively tax it.
And there are plenty of lobbyists working for taxable gambling interests who have issue with the wild-west of internet gambling as well.
It is worthy to note the extent to which the readers of this article are being misled.
The examples of people opting out are:
Male 47 year-old CEO - probably too busy running his business.
Female 39 year-old Finance person - uses the net during the day at work.
Female 57 year-old Lawyer - intellectual likely more comfortable with a book.
Female 50 year-old Flower shop owner - most people over 40 start to get set in their ways, choose hobbies they stick to, and have other priorities than surfing the net.
You want to impress me? Show some data that states people aged 15 to 40 are walking away from it. That would make my head turn.
On this point (botting) the EULA has been clear since the release of the game. If one knows something he is doing could be percieved as botting (at the discretion of the owner of the content) then why tempt fate by using it and then admit to using it?
They made a judegement call with their corporate reputation as the foundation upon which they stood to defend this principle. That didn't leave them any backing-down room. When you admitted to the programmable keyboard that gave them what they needed to completely defend their position.
Step 1: ditch programmable keyboard.
Step 2: obtain new credit card.
Step 3: Hellooooo Level 1.
good luck - EULAs can be tough.
Who knows what his code is doing- the only time I've seen delays is with slow machines or sucky code.
(my) 32k compiled app, it takes about 15-20 seconds for the libs to load up.
We've written two VB.Net applications- one about 15,000 lines and another abour 35,000 lines and the larger one even allocates a 3,000,000 long integer hash table.
On the 1GB Ram/2.7Ghz machine neither takes more than 4 seconds to come up.
On a 256MB Ram/800Mhz laptop the larger one takes 20 seconds.
Is it the machine or is it the code?
I've been dancing on the head of a pin here. I did commment on mucic but I specifically mention digital content and digital media. In this I'm referring to software- something also under assault by P2P and folks who think they have every right to redistribute it as they please.
This is why I've had to implement my own DRM and the law being determined for digital media now may very well also affect my small company.
And we do have the inherent right to protection of our digital property-- and therefore to realize revenues from it's regulated use.
I do see your point on music.
In my case it's small-time commercial software- but the realities are the same-- P2P sharing of hacked code = loss in profits. Therefore I've got to implement my own DRM.
In the long-term, if I did make it big, the law being developed now will benefit little software guys too.
Struggling? Yes, that describes our little company. Struggling but happy nonetheless.
Upload it to a P2P server, and people will hear it. If it isn't pure shit, they will open their wallets and beg you for more.
Once it's uploaded to the P2P server it has become free. There is no need to open the wallet for something they can get.... FREE.
Back to your original point, I'm not going to buy a song I've never heard.
Using this logic you wouldn't buy the follow-on work I produce either because.. you haven't heard THAT yet either. So again, you want it free.
At this point one would have produced two works desired by people and realized nothing for it.
How do we do it? Volume!
Me making a copy of some data you possess does not deprive you of that data.
It's the uploading to a P2P server or sharing with one's friends that does deprive the author of revenue. So that is the sealing aspect.
The true meaning of "information wants to be free" is that *everybody* can have a copy of the data and *everybody* can benefit from it.
Info wants to be free? Which communist manifesto does this come from? Information is a product just like my car. Steal the car, go to jail. Steal the data, there should be the same result.
The marginal cost of reproducing digital data is very close to zero. It only makes sense to not share data..
Whoa, now you are deciding for all authors how much money they are allowed to make? What if some random guy showed up at your job and said your efforts add marginally to our happiness, we are therefore reducing your pay to 25 cents per hour.
Bet that wouldn't fly too far. Now you understand how content owners feel.
Maybe we need a mechanism for society to compensate creators of interesting or useful information.. artifical scarcity..
We already have a mechanism: the marketplace. If honest people like something the vote with their dollars. If honest people do not like something they don't buy it. The only scarsity that exists is when one's wallet runs empty.
I promise you, if you open your wallet the music will be there waiting.
As a producer of digital media I would love to protect my investment.
But I do appreciate peoples desire to move it from one device to another.
I would make this wager, for most people on this site the only good DRM is no DRM. Most want stuff-for-free. So posting anything other than that will get one hammered most of the time.