We're not talking about any particular orbit, we're talking about communication satellites in GEO. It's a straight line mapped on a sphere close to its equator. Each useful GEO orbit is a line on that sphere. A line is 1D. It's crowded.
I see no mention of anything of the sort in the article. With engine power outputs on the order of megawatts, of what possible use is adding fragile solar panels to an airframe?
"But hey, it's not theft, because those people choose to work at that wage and if they're not happy, it's not like we're preventing them from flying to where the jobs are, right?"
"That's not your point at all, because there is a choice. There are multiple choices."
There aren't.
"So what you're saying is that it's not in any way impossible to get a bank account on account of being "too poor"."
Sure, because they first thing a warehouse worker does on payday Friday is fly over to a place where the laws are different... What universe are you in?
"Expensive. But that's entirely different than being "stealing"."
Maybe there's a better word for it, but the whole idea is that we in the West are a post-industrial society, and the best way to make money is to become a middleman to questionable transactions like 15% cheque cashing, or make money off the other rentiers.
Both transactions produce nothing, yet transfer money up. Theft.
"A product or service is worth what its purchaser is willing to pay for it. "
If there's no choice, there's no will. A warehouse worker who can't get a bank account and has to use a sketchy place isn't going to be able to just magically go to a jurisdiction that favors him...
You have continuously wiggled your way out of the truth by using ridiculous counter-examples that apply to no poor person. You will continue to hide your obvious psychopathy and lack of empathy by pretending to be this intellectually rigorous debater when you're just a cunt.
Which I believe I addressed here "people can't afford lawyers and in any case it's hard to do legal research when you're hungry or too tired from a day at the warehouse."
There's a whole ecosystem of systemic poverty that psychopaths can exploit.
Say, why don't you open a business to help people open bank accounts for 14% of their paycheck? Should be simple and very ethical, right?
I love it when well-fed, well-rested, well-educated people pontificate about what poor people should do...
Eh, who cares, let's screw them over some more. I've got a perfectly legal business to run here, it's not like the poor didn't have the same chances you and I got, eh?;)
Banks don't offer bank accounts to people with bad credit, they have bad credit because they can't get a bank account... Help the people get a bank account, or charge 15% off every transaction?
I think the answer tells a lot about you as a person, and us as a creature.
That's often how people become rich: first you steal from the poor, then you steal from the rich.
Example: there's a guy in my neighborhood who ran one of those "cheque cashing businesses" for a while. People so poor and destitute they can't even get a bank account. So he charges them 15% or whatever, it doesn't matter because poor people can't afford lawyers and in any case it's hard to do legal research when you're hungry or too tired from a day at the warehouse. (A job where incidentally you need to bring your own workboots and gloves).
Then he just sits there for a few years with his "holdings company" while the money comes in and he pays no income tax...
When he got enough money he brought in a real estate agent and a development team into the same neighborhood and started evicting the working class people that rented there and put in fancy restaurants, upscale hair salons, tattoo parlours, you name it. All the useless shit people with too much money buy.
Here the people willingly go in to spend money.
Ta dah, he's set for life. University? Education? Hard work? No, no, and no.
Steal from the poor so you can steal from the rich.
I'd bet he also made sure that banks didn't have to offer bank accounts to "riskier" people (wait, I thought businesses were all about taking risks? Oh wait, YOU take the risk, they'll take the money! I get it!)
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Who is "we"? Did Branson sit his geriatric ass in there? Funny how the risks are always taken by the plebes, the rewards taken by the already rich.
We're not talking about any particular orbit, we're talking about communication satellites in GEO. It's a straight line mapped on a sphere close to its equator.
Each useful GEO orbit is a line on that sphere. A line is 1D. It's crowded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"Satellites in geostationary orbit must all occupy a single ring above the Equator."
Orbits are actually 1D structures.
It's pretty crowded up there, can we still afford to play "1965 Cold War" in 2014?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
I see no mention of anything of the sort in the article. With engine power outputs on the order of megawatts, of what possible use is adding fragile solar panels to an airframe?
Who let Elon read Rudy Rucker's Software series?
"no clear counterexamples found yet, therefore forever proven".
I don't think anyone really claims that.
"No, falsifiability means you could at least envision a test by which the theory would fail."
Yeah, how is that different from " that you have to be able to *look* for it!"
Look and envision is pretty much the same thing.
" It is, scientifically, not understood better than "magic""
Considering that magic uses a lot of science to make its tricks work, that's pretty funny.
So are you talking about abiogenesis or evolution?
"And if we find a case where it doesn't behave that way,"
And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. We haven't found any, so we moved on. Why can't you?
"What is the case in which you would -not- call a biological change "evolution""
Biological change in what? An entire species, an individual, before he reproduces, after? What? Describe your experiment a bit better.
"Your assumption is that "the evidence" is only open to one interpretation. "
And you're assuming there should be more than one interpretation. Why is that better?
Seems like you're talking about abiogenesis vs life appearing from a magic wand, by fiat as it were.
I don't think "falsifiable" means that *will* find any contrary evidence, just that you have to be able to *look* for it!
What about evolution prevents you from *looking* for any contrary evidence? I'm sure plenty of people have. Guess they didn't find any.
"Correlation != Causation."
Except when raising minimum wage is bad for the economy, then you have it all figured out?
"But hey, it's not theft, because those people choose to work at that wage and if they're not happy, it's not like we're preventing them from flying to where the jobs are, right?"
That's how some people think...
"That's not your point at all, because there is a choice. There are multiple choices."
There aren't.
"So what you're saying is that it's not in any way impossible to get a bank account on account of being "too poor"."
Sure, because they first thing a warehouse worker does on payday Friday is fly over to a place where the laws are different... What universe are you in?
"Expensive. But that's entirely different than being "stealing"."
Maybe there's a better word for it, but the whole idea is that we in the West are a post-industrial society, and the best way to make money is to become a middleman to questionable transactions like 15% cheque cashing, or make money off the other rentiers.
Both transactions produce nothing, yet transfer money up. Theft.
"A product or service is worth what its purchaser is willing to pay for it. "
If there's no choice, there's no will. A warehouse worker who can't get a bank account and has to use a sketchy place isn't going to be able to just magically go to a jurisdiction that favors him...
You have continuously wiggled your way out of the truth by using ridiculous counter-examples that apply to no poor person. You will continue to hide your obvious psychopathy and lack of empathy by pretending to be this intellectually rigorous debater when you're just a cunt.
"You will now continue the shrieking tantrum you have been throwing"
Hmmm....
"You will attempt to mask your impotent rage behind a facade of affected amusement, and you will continue to fail miserably."
Hmmmm....
"I did not do that"
You sure did: "They consent to the fee when they choose to cash the check"
They're not choosing. That's my whole point. They *have* no choice. That's the stealing part.
Yeah, except "fiber to the house" in rural Ontario means eating a bowl of All Bran and going to the outhouse.
"there are ways to get a bank account regardless"
Which I believe I addressed here "people can't afford lawyers and in any case it's hard to do legal research when you're hungry or too tired from a day at the warehouse."
There's a whole ecosystem of systemic poverty that psychopaths can exploit.
Say, why don't you open a business to help people open bank accounts for 14% of their paycheck? Should be simple and very ethical, right?
I love it when well-fed, well-rested, well-educated people pontificate about what poor people should do...
Eh, who cares, let's screw them over some more. I've got a perfectly legal business to run here, it's not like the poor didn't have the same chances you and I got, eh? ;)
"They consent to the fee when they choose to cash the check at the place that tells them up-front that there's a fee for cashing the check."
That's my whole point, there is no choice.
" banks don't deny accounts to people for having bad credit."
Banks vary depending in jurisdiction.
" you also described establishing businesses as "stealing from the rich""
What do you call a 250$ shave? Or a 50$ salad?? It's consensual theft, both parties know it's not worth that amount.
The 15% from a poor person's paycheck. Do you have to pay a 15% service fee on your paycheck?
Read it again slower if it helps.
Banks don't offer bank accounts to people with bad credit, they have bad credit because they can't get a bank account... Help the people get a bank account, or charge 15% off every transaction?
I think the answer tells a lot about you as a person, and us as a creature.
Could you emulate his "success"? Of course not.
No, when you have no choice because the system is rigged against you from the start, it's stealing.
That's often how people become rich: first you steal from the poor, then you steal from the rich.
Example: there's a guy in my neighborhood who ran one of those "cheque cashing businesses" for a while. People so poor and destitute they can't even get a bank account. So he charges them 15% or whatever, it doesn't matter because poor people can't afford lawyers and in any case it's hard to do legal research when you're hungry or too tired from a day at the warehouse. (A job where incidentally you need to bring your own workboots and gloves).
Then he just sits there for a few years with his "holdings company" while the money comes in and he pays no income tax...
When he got enough money he brought in a real estate agent and a development team into the same neighborhood and started evicting the working class people that rented there and put in fancy restaurants, upscale hair salons, tattoo parlours, you name it. All the useless shit people with too much money buy.
Here the people willingly go in to spend money.
Ta dah, he's set for life. University? Education? Hard work? No, no, and no.
Steal from the poor so you can steal from the rich.
I'd bet he also made sure that banks didn't have to offer bank accounts to "riskier" people (wait, I thought businesses were all about taking risks? Oh wait, YOU take the risk, they'll take the money! I get it!)