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>> LinuxPPC has been fairly critical of OS X and Darwin for some time now
> Have they? Or are you just quoting that one guy?:)
I seem to remember back when OS X Server was announced in 1999, the LinuxPPC page had a fairly negative response.
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Well, because it comes from a company with presumably more engineering resources than LinuxPPC. What do you think companies are more likely to support natively, OS X or LinuxPPC?
MacNN has an interesting article featuring a talk with Jeff Carr from LinuxPPC, in which he once again slams OS X needlessly ("Mac OS X is very limited regarding hardware support" - well, duh, it's not actually out yet, but I bet it'll support USB and FireWire sooner than LinuxPPC does natively), claiming Apple can't win against a free OS and that they should throw out the Mach kernel. But OS X is built on a free OS, and BSD appears (have to be careful here) to have an easier upgrade path, something Apple is finally interested in - the Software Update feature of OS 9 took way too long to make it into the system, IMHO.
LinuxPPC has been fairly critical of OS X and Darwin for some time now. Why don't they cooperate instead? Then, everybody wins.
will Real allow the server to be used without their licensing fees?
Royalty-free serving of content was touted as one of the big advantages of the Darwin Streaming Server, which is already available for Linux (better known as the QuickTime Streaming Server under Mac OS X).
<disclaimer> yes, there's no QuickTime Player for Linux. Yes, you can play older QuickTime movies (one snot encoded via Sorensen) on Linux. Yes, Apple should consider a client that includes the codecs. No, I don't work for them. </disclaimer>
BTW, one of the employees on the project is Andy Hertzfeld. It will therefore NOT suck. (Andy is about the closest thing to a Linus the Mac OS has, other than Bill Atkinson and a select few others.)
For Mac users reading this, try this experiment. Find a copy of PepsiCaps. Run it in the OS X blue box. Marvel that a 15-year-old Mac application still works on today's machines, even if it does deviate slightly from the human interface guidelines.
at least, according to the guy's statement. How could it have let him log in with the (presumably) reserved ID for the typist is beyond me.
Hope CNN recognizes this as what it is, an exploit of a technically bogus program rather than an all-out attack on truth, justice, and the American Way...but I doubt it.
Nothing I like better than reading an article full of ']' characters in place of apostrophes. Not everybody reads slashdot on a Unix box (well, sometimes I do via Lynx if I'm in a hurry or there's not enough memory to open Explorer).
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.5; Mac_PowerPC), fer shure....
for kicks, I downloaded the second program listed in the article posting (the one from staff.washington.edu that comes as source) and compiled it on a 2.2.12smp box. I had to comment out the LIBS line to get it to compile, and I don't know enough about Linux libraries to know whether that was a good idea or not. It seems to do what it says when run as root, and it didn't find anything on my machine or one of the others in my area. FWIW.
They show Linux at a 4% desktop share, trailing MacOS's 5%. They also say that the Linux share comes out to around 3.9 million users. This would make the MacOS share roughly 4.9 million (just under a million per percentage point). Does that seem low to anybody else, considering that Apple sold 1.3 million machines last quarter alone? I would think Apple's shipment share in 1999 would have been at least 5-6 million, including sales of Mac OS 8.6 and 9 to users who didn't necessarily buy a new machine.
All I can say is if you use eBay, fer chrissakes don't start the bidding at $20,000,000 unless the name in question is microsoft.com, or something similar. If I have to read through one more stupid auction describing the "next big this-or-that" domain name for sale I'll have to beat somebody with a stick. Makes it a real pain in the ass to serach for old NeXT hardware, I can tell you.
Of course, maybe I'm bitter because some loser picked "simple2use.com" (simple2use@earthlink.net being my old email address for over a year) before I got a chance to do so, then posted it for $1.5M *and* he had the nerve to post a note on the "site" saying nothing more than "I'm a squatter, buy my domain and make me rich cuz I'm a lam3r". Squatter bad. Squatter go away. Servo kill squatter.
Anyway, if you're going to do the auction thing, I would suggest 1) setting a reserve and prominently mentioning it in the posting, 2) make clear your requirements for authorizing the transfer, and 3) document why this is such a great name, rather than just saying "it's the next Yahoo!".
I registered my domain with TotalNIC and it was fast and easy, $35. Of course, I haven't had to change any info with them yet.
Unfortunately, since my DSL provider charges $30 extra for hosting the name, I'm going to have to take the route followed by an earlier poster and figure out my own DNS. Fortunately, I have an old IIci I can use as a firewall/DNS box while the SE/30 serves the site. (Yes, I am insane.)
...and check out the alarmingly high percentage of 'k12' addresses they list, too. What, don't schools in this country pay top dollar for their net admins just like real companies do?
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Having read the book, I can say that if even half of that third chapter is true, thank god he didn't wind up at On-Line Systems. Hey John, how about letting id take over the Mac port of Half-Life from those chintzy fucks at Sierra?
AKA herpes....I get them pretty regularly in droves (lips, tongue, back of the throat) and they suck fucking rocks. No doctor or dentist has been able to suggest anything other than hydrogen peroxide and various antifungal medications, but something that would wipe them out after a day or so would be worth just about any price to me (and probably lots of others)...
In other words, something very similar to Apple's new KidSafe. See? Parents who love their children and want to protect them from pr0n on the net should buy them an iMac! (Or at least an upgrade to Mac OS 9.)
Specifically, the new PowerPC motherboards that some companies are planning to build...is VA planning any systems around these boards, or do you see a market for platforms other than i386 in your company's future?
Well, Woz wouldn't have known about the new Apple site stuff unless he was briefed on the MacWorld Expo keynote (not impossible, but still pretty improbable). Here's his reaction to the speech (from the San Francisco Examiner):
Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak was spotted walking over to the exhibit hall after the speech. "I cried," said Wozniak, in reaction to Jobs' decision. "It felt just like the old days, with Steve making announcements that shook my world."
Asked if he saw himself returning to the fold in Apple's Cupertino headquarters, Wozniak said, "Well, not really. But who knows?"
Whether or not he's referring to OS X or to the new site stuff is unclear. It should be noted that the reviews and cards sections are largely available for everybody; only the tools and certain customization sections of the cards require the Mac OS, unlike (for example) Intel's WebOutfitter service for P-IIIs, which requires both a P-III and Windows 98.
1. Lucas isn't necessarily afraid of DVD. IIRC, he redid a scene from "American Graffiti" in the beginning where the sun is setting; the new version features a digitally-redone sky which apparently makes it look much better than the VHS version.
2. A friend of mine received a VideoCD version of TPM for Christmas. I haven't seen it, but the point is clear: illegal copies already are out there.
3. How hard is it to hook up a DV-converter to your VCR and digitally copy the TPM VHS tape? Apple sells just such a converter (from Sony) on their web site for turning your old movies into stuff you can edit with iMovie or Final Cut Pro. Maybe the VHS tape is copy-protected somehow with Macrovision or some other quality-degrading format.
4. Having said this, the only way I would watch a pirated copy of TPM is on an Apple Cinema Display or something of that nature; anything else will be smaller than my 27" TV set (which is barely big enough for most DVDs anyway). Then there's the sound issue. My computer doesn't output AC-3 Dolby Digital sound, ergo I'm losing out on much of the joy of watching a DVD movie to begin with.
Apple is responsible for two of the biggest products in computer lore, the Apple II and the Macintosh. Do you think Apple can change computing in such a dramatic way again, and what do you envision such a product to be?
Ten years ago I wrote a HyperCard stack to countdown to 1990. Tonight, I took the easy way out; I synched the Date & Time control panel and then watched it flip. Ten years from now, I'll just flip open the G10-powered Newton and watch the clock icon...
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>> LinuxPPC has been fairly critical of OS X and Darwin for some time now
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> Have they? Or are you just quoting that one guy?
I seem to remember back when OS X Server was announced in 1999, the LinuxPPC page had a fairly negative response.
Well, because it comes from a company with presumably more engineering resources than LinuxPPC. What do you think companies are more likely to support natively, OS X or LinuxPPC?
MacNN has an interesting article featuring a talk with Jeff Carr from LinuxPPC, in which he once again slams OS X needlessly ("Mac OS X is very limited regarding hardware support" - well, duh, it's not actually out yet, but I bet it'll support USB and FireWire sooner than LinuxPPC does natively), claiming Apple can't win against a free OS and that they should throw out the Mach kernel. But OS X is built on a free OS, and BSD appears (have to be careful here) to have an easier upgrade path, something Apple is finally interested in - the Software Update feature of OS 9 took way too long to make it into the system, IMHO.
LinuxPPC has been fairly critical of OS X and Darwin for some time now. Why don't they cooperate instead? Then, everybody wins.
will Real allow the server to be used without their licensing fees?
Royalty-free serving of content was touted as one of the big advantages of the Darwin Streaming Server, which is already available for Linux (better known as the QuickTime Streaming Server under Mac OS X).
<disclaimer> yes, there's no QuickTime Player for Linux. Yes, you can play older QuickTime movies (one snot encoded via Sorensen) on Linux. Yes, Apple should consider a client that includes the codecs. No, I don't work for them. </disclaimer>
Jeez, and I just submitted this, too... :-]
BTW, one of the employees on the project is Andy Hertzfeld. It will therefore NOT suck. (Andy is about the closest thing to a Linus the Mac OS has, other than Bill Atkinson and a select few others.)
For Mac users reading this, try this experiment. Find a copy of PepsiCaps. Run it in the OS X blue box. Marvel that a 15-year-old Mac application still works on today's machines, even if it does deviate slightly from the human interface guidelines.
at least, according to the guy's statement. How could it have let him log in with the (presumably) reserved ID for the typist is beyond me.
Hope CNN recognizes this as what it is, an exploit of a technically bogus program rather than an all-out attack on truth, justice, and the American Way...but I doubt it.
OK, so it had Lea Thompson and "Forever Man" by Eric Clapton. But still...
Nothing I like better than reading an article full of ']' characters in place of apostrophes. Not everybody reads slashdot on a Unix box (well, sometimes I do via Lynx if I'm in a hurry or there's not enough memory to open Explorer).
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.5; Mac_PowerPC), fer shure....
for kicks, I downloaded the second program listed in the article posting (the one from staff.washington.edu that comes as source) and compiled it on a 2.2.12smp box. I had to comment out the LIBS line to get it to compile, and I don't know enough about Linux libraries to know whether that was a good idea or not. It seems to do what it says when run as root, and it didn't find anything on my machine or one of the others in my area. FWIW.
They show Linux at a 4% desktop share, trailing MacOS's 5%. They also say that the Linux share comes out to around 3.9 million users. This would make the MacOS share roughly 4.9 million (just under a million per percentage point). Does that seem low to anybody else, considering that Apple sold 1.3 million machines last quarter alone? I would think Apple's shipment share in 1999 would have been at least 5-6 million, including sales of Mac OS 8.6 and 9 to users who didn't necessarily buy a new machine.
All I can say is if you use eBay, fer chrissakes don't start the bidding at $20,000,000 unless the name in question is microsoft.com, or something similar. If I have to read through one more stupid auction describing the "next big this-or-that" domain name for sale I'll have to beat somebody with a stick. Makes it a real pain in the ass to serach for old NeXT hardware, I can tell you.
Of course, maybe I'm bitter because some loser picked "simple2use.com" (simple2use@earthlink.net being my old email address for over a year) before I got a chance to do so, then posted it for $1.5M *and* he had the nerve to post a note on the "site" saying nothing more than "I'm a squatter, buy my domain and make me rich cuz I'm a lam3r". Squatter bad. Squatter go away. Servo kill squatter.
Anyway, if you're going to do the auction thing, I would suggest 1) setting a reserve and prominently mentioning it in the posting, 2) make clear your requirements for authorizing the transfer, and 3) document why this is such a great name, rather than just saying "it's the next Yahoo!".
I registered my domain with TotalNIC and it was fast and easy, $35. Of course, I haven't had to change any info with them yet.
Unfortunately, since my DSL provider charges $30 extra for hosting the name, I'm going to have to take the route followed by an earlier poster and figure out my own DNS. Fortunately, I have an old IIci I can use as a firewall/DNS box while the SE/30 serves the site. (Yes, I am insane.)
...and check out the alarmingly high percentage of 'k12' addresses they list, too. What, don't schools in this country pay top dollar for their net admins just like real companies do?
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Er, I meant "company domain". Sorry.
That has to be a record for lowest price paid for the purchase of a dot-com company in recent memory....
I gave to the EFF. Did you?
AKA herpes....I get them pretty regularly in droves (lips, tongue, back of the throat) and they suck fucking rocks. No doctor or dentist has been able to suggest anything other than hydrogen peroxide and various antifungal medications, but something that would wipe them out after a day or so would be worth just about any price to me (and probably lots of others)...
Specifically, the new PowerPC motherboards that some companies are planning to build...is VA planning any systems around these boards, or do you see a market for platforms other than i386 in your company's future?
Even though AOL will be the purchasing company in terms of stock, will Time-Warner's influence alter the nature of the Mozilla project?
Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak was spotted walking over to the exhibit hall after the speech. "I cried," said Wozniak, in reaction to Jobs' decision. "It felt just like the old days, with Steve making announcements that shook my world."
Asked if he saw himself returning to the fold in Apple's Cupertino headquarters, Wozniak said, "Well, not really. But who knows?"
Whether or not he's referring to OS X or to the new site stuff is unclear. It should be noted that the reviews and cards sections are largely available for everybody; only the tools and certain customization sections of the cards require the Mac OS, unlike (for example) Intel's WebOutfitter service for P-IIIs, which requires both a P-III and Windows 98.
1. Lucas isn't necessarily afraid of DVD. IIRC, he redid a scene from "American Graffiti" in the beginning where the sun is setting; the new version features a digitally-redone sky which apparently makes it look much better than the VHS version.
2. A friend of mine received a VideoCD version of TPM for Christmas. I haven't seen it, but the point is clear: illegal copies already are out there.
3. How hard is it to hook up a DV-converter to your VCR and digitally copy the TPM VHS tape? Apple sells just such a converter (from Sony) on their web site for turning your old movies into stuff you can edit with iMovie or Final Cut Pro. Maybe the VHS tape is copy-protected somehow with Macrovision or some other quality-degrading format.
4. Having said this, the only way I would watch a pirated copy of TPM is on an Apple Cinema Display or something of that nature; anything else will be smaller than my 27" TV set (which is barely big enough for most DVDs anyway). Then there's the sound issue. My computer doesn't output AC-3 Dolby Digital sound, ergo I'm losing out on much of the joy of watching a DVD movie to begin with.
5. Forget TPM. I want my Buckaroo Banzai DVD!
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Apple is responsible for two of the biggest products in computer lore, the Apple II and the Macintosh. Do you think Apple can change computing in such a dramatic way again, and what do you envision such a product to be?
Ten years ago I wrote a HyperCard stack to countdown to 1990. Tonight, I took the easy way out; I synched the Date & Time control panel and then watched it flip. Ten years from now, I'll just flip open the G10-powered Newton and watch the clock icon...
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