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Y2K Rollover - Post Your Experiences Here!
fredm8 writes "Since the Slashdot article, When Does Y2K Begin, New Zealand has experienced the Y2K rollover. Yes the power still works, the water still flows, my Windows98 PC still runs, my Linux box rocks, and my supported *nix boxes still run." We're getting lots of stories like this one submitted. We might as well have them all in one place, so please post yours below instead of sending it in as a story submission. This thread ought to make an interesting chronicle of Y2K events -- or non-events, as the case may be.
Yes, but it's not midnight GMT yet. Similarly, I don't expect anyone to be Raptured until then. 7PM EST! I'll be eating dinner when that happens.
Y2k != millenium
Actually, according to the US ABC network, NZ *did* have an outage--but it was a temporary thing due to a strong wind :)
Then again, ABC also talked about "welcoming in the second millenium"... I knew they couldn't count when they kept claiming that the new millenium starts in 2000, but I thought they could at least count to 3. Or wait, maybe they consider the first one the "0th" millenium, eh?
Hehe. I am never buying a Swiss watch again.
Of course they are no Y2K bugs in New Zealand, according to http://www.s wissinfo.net/cgi/worldtime/clock.pl?Wellington,New =Zealand you are in 19100. :-)
Humph! Always knew that daylight savings thing was evil... :-)
Ok, on the OLD calendar yes, but on the CURRENT calendar (Common Era) 2000 is in the new millenium since on the CE calendar there is a year zero. So there! :-)
The southeast part of Australia is now about half an hour after midnight. No major obvious problems yet. But i haven't had a close look at the Windows boxes yet. Also there could be minor problems at 11am local time because a lot of stuff runs GMT. And i was here at 10pm local time to see if New Zealand disappeared off the map, just to get 2 hours early warning :-)
2000 CE = NEW MILLENIUM!!!
dink.
Does this mean I cant loot the vending machines here at work tonight??? That was the only things I was looking foreward to... Bummer!! Sitting in a room with 16 server racks, and changing DLT tapes to get 4 backups of everything for NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh well, at least I get to set up the corperate overhead projector screen to watch the ball drop on a 20' screen :-) Who says you cant take advantage of technology in corperations!!!
Light growing.. brighter.. Beam me up.. God..
NOTE: 93696.1
Y2K: NEXT_DATE CHANGES TO 1900 AND REPLICATION STOPS
LAST UPDATED: 31 DEC 1999 12.05 P.M. GMT
see http://metalink.oracle.com (if you have access) Note the date and time of the note (5 minutes after GMT+12)
[quote]
When a dbms_job is submitted, the current nls environment (in particular
nls_date_format) is bound to the job permanently. This is done by populating
the nls_env column of dba_jobs. If an invalid date format was in place when
the job was submitted then subsequent job executions may run into problems
if the procedure being executed contains date logic.
This will not effect the scheduling of jobs of when they are executed, but may
cause problems during execution.
[endquote]
This may get people who have recurring jobs that have not been re-created since they moved to a Y2K compliant NLS_DATE_FORMAT. I suspect anyone who did a rollover test would have caught this already, but the (late) timing of this alert does worry me a little.
I understand that this is not actually a bug in oracle's RDBMS. You do not need to explain that to me.
I hit refresh and it's back down to 1... what was that all about?
Here in Melbourne, the Linux box on my desk at work appears to have died. No idea why at the moment -- I'll go in tomorrow to check it.
All the other linux severs are fine, though (as I expected they would be).
I TOLD YA SO
I'm in Sydney and it's: Sat Jan 1 00:49:51 EST 2000. Everything is still working just fi#$&%@#$!
NO CARRIER
Meanwhile no one is working on fixing the Y10K bug.
I work for major credit card company, and all of our Asian servers are fuckin crashing. HOLY SHIT! Some transactions are being recorded with 19100 dates. We're running out of time. THE WORLD IS GOING TO END. REPENT YOUR SINS!
You'll need this fish in your ear ...
http://www.swissinfo.net/cgi/worldtime/clock.pl?Au ckland,New=Zealand
Damn..mine still thinks its 1978. Well, it always did, so no problem there.
Wow.
Could you be a more cynical bastard?
You sure told us, oh omnipowerful righteous boy.
I fear thee.
Really.
This is a pretty cool link to what the rest of the world are doing. (cept for programmers who are celebrating in their offices)
Seems Saudi Arabia isn't partying though:
Saudi Arabia has banned all New Year's celebrations.
"Celebrating the holidays of the infidels is not allowed, even if it's out of courtesy," said Sheik Abdullah bin Jabrain, a member of the Saudi Islamic legal committee.
God damn. You are so right. That's the best argument I've ever heard against the cynical, preaching, perfectionist, "it's not the new millennium; I'm smarter than you cause I know this," crap that people keep spitting out.
Thank you.
Just wait... the real computers use GMT, not localtime.
The real Y2K starts at GMT, so that would be 19:00 SST (Slashdot Standard Time.) This is the real time to start popping the tops of those beer bottles.
Well I've been checking up on our 24 hour a day customers in and none of their servers are having any problems. Mainly Sco Openserver machines and HPUX 10.20's. I haven't installed any Y2K patches from SCO or HP on any of these machines and everything is sweet. All the Linux boxes we have are working fine (as expected). Most of these are 486 / early pentiums running redhat. I've had to fix one minor y2k bug in our software but that was expected. The real test will be Tuesday when the administration staff come back to work and start running reports! Good luck everyone.
We've seen some "minor" problems at this Wall St. firm; minor in the scheme of things. Had these problems shown up on any other day, heads would have rolled. All-in-all, so far, nothing that wasn't fixed in a matter of hours.
The big day for us is Monday when transactions take place and settle in 2000.
Good point, that's just about when all the operating systems are going to stop working! (give or take a few years)
Y2K all over again!
Sorry. The Common Era year zero is simply the year before the year one, which is also noted as 1 B.C. Since the first century was the year 1 through the year one-hundred, the year zero was the last year of the zero century. That said, centuries end on December 31st of the one-hundredth year. The twentieth century ends on December 31st, 2000.
So the year zero was the last year of the zero millenium, as the year 2000 is the last year of the second millenium.
See you in a year.
I came into work this morning to see that we are still running on a DOS based server, and the most recent version of Windows that is running is 95. I sit alone with my Mac, and laugh laugh laugh. I tried to explain to my boss that installing Office 2000 isn't the same thing as OS 2000. Oh well, they will find out soon enough.
My place of employment is as backward as can be. We are still using a DOS based server with external hard drives 3.
Our most recent version of Windows is good ole 95'.
When Y2K comes, how am I to keep this place alive?
I sit and cuddle my wonderful G3.
At midnight I quit, and no more for me!
Today Microsoft Finland wanted to hire an Enterprise Program Manager, job starting on 1.1.1900.
you can't very well ram people in reverse with your cuda if you are towing your trailer full of dog food. perhaps put all the dogfood in the passenger seat!
now excuse me as i go back to playing i76 =)
Believe me, it's been thought of.
Looks like foxtel.com.au's program listing for today turns up devoid of any actual programs - other dates like 2/1/2000 and on work fine though.
DEDICATED TO LACEY CHABERT AND NATALIE PORTMAN
:) :) :(
Natalie Portman
First, she takes off her pants, then
I turn her to stone!
Natalie is stone!
Now she is my statue friend.
But the chaffing hurts.
Lacey Chabert's hot
Cripes, I've been arrested for
Statuetory rape
"Lacey, turn to stone!"
That is what I said to her
Now she is my rock
Chabert and Portman
As they kiss I transform them
I have two statues
all you really need is a motorcycle, a mel gibson haircut, a mechanical hand / swappable chainsaw attachment, leather pants, and a shotgun.. hail to the kind, baby..
2000 = new DUH-lennium, for those who can't do simple math.
Actually I'm waiting for the press to pick up on the REAL millenium sometime in the next few months and start all this millenium hype all over again.
I'm sure all the people who rent hotels and sell party supplies are hoping this will happen, then they get 2 chances to sell all this overpriced crap for both millenium celebrationss.
BTW, last night a local TV station talked to a store owner who complained that he had stocked his store with extra bottled water and canned food in anticipation of Y2K hoarding (and probably raised prices, too) AND NOW HE'S STUCK WITH IT 'CAUSE NOONE CAME IN AND BOUGHT IT!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!!
That the same car Groove Champion used, except his was orange.
Catch something of a clue, technically sure it is 2001, but I guess then the nineties began in 1991 also!!!!!!
sorry mr o&cw dude but mobilenet's been rockin on strong all night long dude
It will probably list the 2 digit date as "**". that's what ours did. Older version, tho. We didn't have the time or budget to do this one so we set the date back 28 years to keep the days of the week correct (it's a non critical system). It thinks today is 12/31/71 and will roll over to 1972 tonight.
© 1996 swissinfo.net- --------------------------------
- --------------------------------
Local time Chatham, New Zealand
-----------------------------------------------
Current time in Chatham, New Zealand is:
Saturday, January 1, 19100 - 05:18:32
-----------------------------------------------
Happy 19100 Everyone in New Zealand!
in all my computers, the date says its the year '2000', not the year 'Y2K'.. what the hell is going on?!!
you mean you don't have a UPS to handle power cleanup power to your machines ?
Okay if it's "A thousandth anniversary", millennium isn't 2000, it would be 2001. The first anniversary of 1BC is 2BC, 10th anniversary is 11BC,...
www.userfriendly.org appears to be down. anyone have details? just overloaded perhaps, since I don't imagine Y2K has hit them yet.
oh well.
It's fixed now. As of 15:50 GMT But i still got to see it in 19100! Hurray
Your cat works? Mine just sleeps.
How'd you manage that? The new Millennium doesn't start for a whole 'nother year.
Did you test the condom on your friend?
:-)
Diesel engines will run on damn near anything that will burn - And there's no ignition system to fail either. Yes - my 81 vw, I think, needs only a small amount of power to a solenoid on the fuel pump - push start - and plan to utilize above ground home heating fuel storage tanks while raping/pillaging across the post apocalyptic nuclear scarred wasteland, tomorrow after breakfast. Boojum
The calender we use was put in place by Pope Gregory (thus the Gregorian calender). Today is 31 Dec 1999 A.D. A is for Anno, D is for Domni and does not mean and is not equivalent to AFTER DEATH. It is measured from the alleged birth of Jesus. Therefore, it does start from 0. Jesus was not, miraculous birth or not, a 1 year old at birth. He was, 1 minute old then 1 hour old then 1 day old, etc. Just trying to keep it real folks.
it's an interesting site to watch these days ... but in the upper right corner of the map it say the next day is 01/01/100
counted it in, and the beer taps still flowed, the loud music still played... yeap, was quite..... normal. toilets still flushing (should know, i puked in it :))
Everything fine and dandy so far. Ooh... what was that bright light...
on the official time-lord sanctioned rollover, but we'll let them have fun with the triple 0's this year. It's sooo much easier to understand! Be sure to type 'cal 9 1752' sometime. Boojum
it is mille_N_N_ium !!!
Half an hour into y2k and everythings dandy over here (Malaysia). Frankly, I'm a tad disappointed... where's the promised Big Bang(tm)?
Apache and Linux - the choice of the U.K. Governemt. See one of my earlier posts for all the URLS. Seasons greetings from Glasgow, Scotland.
ASP can execute (on the server OR the client) any registered scripting language. Perl, JavaScript (JSCript, whatever), and VBScript.
I use Javascript on the server and the client.
Young lashious female... long blond hair, blue eyes.... long legs... intersting hobies... interseted in part-time work.... maybe full-time later... any openings? willing to work evenings and nights.
COBOL database can still read the punched cards correctly after midnight. Guess I'd better log into the teletype machine and check a few things. Boojum
CNN bad compared to BBC? You've got to be joking! But then again, you probably like BSkyB too.
www.auckland-airport.co.nz/airpor t_newsflash.html :)
www.countdown2000.com/worldtour/singaporeframe.htm l Below Webcam image note the following: Image was captured at 32/Dec/99 12:43 am (local) We have to come up with a new verse for the "30 day has September....."
Hmmm, now that you mention it, I use NISTIME32 TCP time client on our NT box, and just sync'd w/ time-a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov and got a correct response at 12/31 11:59AM EST Boojum
It is true that 2K would equal 2000 in a metric system, but time is not metric! I guess Y2K really has no meaning other than some word made up for the media to use.
It would be interesting to know who created the term "Y2K"! If it was someone trying to use computer terminology then Y2K does equal 2048!
You must be posting this with a laptop and an irdium phone, right?
I've heard of a lot of people having DNS troubles, and wonder how much of this is because of automated perlscripts that change the serial in the bind conf files to a number beyond acceptable limits or to a number lower than the previous serial (1999123100 -> 19100123100) given the current convention of using year/mon/day/modified. (if the serial is lower, the nameserver will not necessarily notice changes made.)
I expect none of this type to be submitted ... but you can still reload this page (with newest messages first) to see if some of these "everything OK" posts are missing from a certain area ...
... most errors will occur on UTC turnaround ...
anyway
There's nothing more fun than having the AntiChrist feed you your own eyeballs while dogs of Hell rip out your intestines.
Personally, I'm disappointed, too. I wanted to blast Marilyn Manson while my stinking remains get incinerated in holy hellfire. It would have been cool.
neat.. the most commonly used letter in the US isn't compliant :)
Try an Amersand followed by "lt" then a semicolon for left bracket and then the same thing with "gt" instead of "lt" for the right one. If you preveiw you'll gotta change them back again but usually works ok for me.
:-)
</Anon>
remember, we discussed this. If its spelled millenium, then its the end of 1999. If its spelled millennium, then its the end of the 20th century, which is next year
Digital_Fiend writes:
> www.eyeonbrisbane.citec.com.au. Notice the date on the pic from the webcame (1/1/9999)...
I had just started laughing at that date when my eye caught on the URL... It's one of the web sites we host....
Now *that* was an unexpected and disturbing moment. Fortunately I have since been told that we don't control or maintain the webcam software. [relieved grin]
Black Alys
(still waiting for my emailed password to arrive, dammit)
Yawn - more MS FUD. ASP can't magically fix idiot script/program writers.
Running a diesel on the used grease from a Burger King is not theory, it is actually done.
Me, I'm all set with my '72 Mercedes 240D, which has almost as much carrying capacity of a Hummer, and a lot more class. Armaments are wanting though. I'll have to mount a custom potato cannon on the roof.
Well, if you're going to be anal-retentive about it, the millennium started sometime in the mid 90s (Jesus Christ was actually born between 6 and 3 BC)
Who cares when your odometer rolls to 100001? Besides, the millennium actually started sometime in the mid-90s (as our calendar is based on the birth of Jesus Christ, who was actually born sometime between 6 and 3 BC)
int Millennium[2000]; int i = 1999; Millennium[i++]=NEW_MILLENNIUM; -> segfault So it is the new millennium... or is it *the* Y2K Bug ? --Benji2
Thank you. I have a "wall of shame" up where I work. Remember folks, don't let the webmasters of these sites know why there's the increased traffic-it's much more fun to see how long it goes unnoticed 8*)
YOu don't have a girlfriend, do you?
The eighth decade of the twentieth century was not the 1980's. The eighth decade of the twentieth century was January 1, 1981 through December 31, 1990. The 1980's extended from January 1, 1980 through December 31, 1989.
Let me know if you need more help with your counting.
Already fixed.
Everything is destroyed here! And it's not Y2K yet! Everybody is looting Fry's! Nothing works anymore! I'm sending this message via RFC 1149!
Tested their GPS?
The GPS issue was back in August. Checking it would be, not a bad idea, but four months too late (you'd already know.)
It was funny for maybe a couple of posts, now it it's getting old and cold fast. Buddy, if you're going to troll why not be creative and post different garbage each time?
WHat's a `millenium'?
I don't know what this `millenium' thing is. But it smells like a gathering of a thousand assholes.
even better than that, there is no number
lo -
hi 70
Umm...ASP is server side, NOT client side.
why's the above moderated redundant? it should be stupid.
Xah
xah@best.com
http://www.best.com/~xah/PageTwo_dir/more.html
fascinating. The grits thing has passed from trolling ACs to logged in normal users. Soon it'll probably be on CNN.
Heck, wonder if anybody would be interested in a Hot Grits IPO?
i woke to a nasty taste in my mouth and raspy breath.. i groaned alot and rolled over in my blanket. then i took a piss, drank some water, watched tv, and went back to sleep. woohoo
Thanks so much! Those are great!!
I am posting this as a an AC because until yesterday, I was just an ordinary kitty, and I did not have sufficient intelligence to use a computer. Then, midnight hit, and I saw a really bright light ... guess my cat brain was not y2k compliant. So much for all of my much vaunted self-superiority. Anyway, sometimes bugs do weird serendipitous things; I can use a computer now. Still cannot talk however; no changes to the voicebox. Oh, yeah, and my toy mice died. Damn computerized toys ....
Expect some problems to creep up when GMT switches over to next year (poor brits ... they may be struck hardest).
... just like there were some Y2K-related problems that happened earlier
Other problems will only be noticed (but be present before) when normal work resumes = on 2000/01/03
And finally there are probably some problems that occur some time later
What is there the media can really report about after all their Y2K hype .... no reactors going wild, no planes crashed (so far ... time of writing = GMT 1999/12/31/ 18:05, 19:05 local time)
...
the worst thing yet is some 19100 output errors...
boring
if yeltsin would not have resigned there would be nothing to report about
Has anyone noticed that tick.usno.navy.mil is not responding? The web page isn't working either. This is the official time source for the US...it stopped responding last night I believe from my NTP stuff mailing me.... Does anyone one see this also?
Most slashdoters don't realize that 99 percent of the software in the world is written by companies for their own internal use. Publicly available software has been tested throughly. By this I mean software that is either open source or software that can be purchased at a retail outlet. My clients use a mixture of proprietary operating systems i.e. SCO, Solaris, Win NT, and open source i.e. Linux, BSD. All the off the shelf software is working without problems. The internally generated software is not. For example, one of my clients, provides heavy machinery to construction sites. This particular client uses their Linux system to schedule the delivery of equipment. This morning they discovered that for the past week they have delivered several million dollars worth of equipment to job sites that have not requested delivery to next year. This is the typical Y2K failure scenerio. Out of 85+ clients, I've got over 80 reports of this sort of problem. These aren't show stoppers but they are annoying. The sad thing is that when a problem occurs in an environment with both Microsoft and open source solutions, Microsoft is telling management that the fundamental problem is the open source.
All looks ok here: http://www.auckland-airport.co.nz/airport_newsflas h.html :)
Here's the correct link -- nuke the .html...it's just .htm
s h.htm
http://www.auckland-airport.co.nz/airport_newsfla
It's another "1 Jan 100" error
"Millenia" isn't a word--at least, not one for polite company. "annus" != "anus".
There's no such thing as a `millenium'.
The space is there because the 'link text' has a space in it.
www.linuxgazette.com/issue49/lg_mail49.html How come the letters are date 1 Dec 2000? Or can I borrow their time machine?
Search your heart and find that "God-shaped hole" and fill it with the truth that comes only from a relationship with Jesus Christ. Only He can save you from the anger and insecurity you obviously feel as well as the hell that awaits you if you deny Him. Everyone will have eternal life after this one...the choice you have to make is whether you want to be in smoking or non- smoking. http://www.ccci.org/laws/index.html
The only way tomorrow is the start of a new millennium is if it's the start of the second millennium, and of the twentieth century. If you're going to be zero-based, do so consistently.
Remember: the century is first two digits of the year, so next year is the start of the 20th century.
this is not a bug, it's a feature
at the said month (september 1752), science people decided to remove about 12 days to the calendar. at the time, some extra days (from wrong cellestial calculations) had to be removed to synchronize the calendar with cosmic time...
(any amateur astronomer knows this)
As a shareholder of Andover, I believe that Andover should observe the Millennium on both days, in order to reap the maximum number of page-views and advertising click-throughs from its readers.
Last night for my stocking-up. Just more of what I usually get. AND I was with a guy from Australia. But a dingo did not, regrettably, eat the baybay
Don't be an idiot. The century is the first two digits of the year.
WTFO?
Yes there is, tonight at 12 midnight there will be a "millenium" celebration. Those of us with brain cells will simply know it as the year 200, and await the "millennium" around this time next year...
Let's hear it for y-u-k!
Cool. Barbara WahWah is in Paris. What else.
BAh
"Times shown on the maps are the times of the last received incidents (if any). "
Is that a North African or European...nevermind. Now that the "millenium" is almost over, Tom, I have a confession. I want some of your karma. I've wanted it for years. Say you'll be a donor for a karma-transplant operation...:)
What's a "millenium"?
the titles says it all.
However, you realize that, in America, you are probably being placed under surveillance right this moment and have had an extensive FBI/CIA/NSA profile written about you and your "terrorist tendencies".
Yes, it sounds like sarcasm, but....
EXACTLY!!!
Someone took all the Es? Party on dude :)
in 1969 the univac system i worked on contained a 4 digit date. the last day of the year was 9365 and the first day of 1970 was 0001. trust me on this, it was a problem then also. for several weeks we solved the problem by making the sorter believe 9 was 0 . but of course, you could read the holes in the card by just looking at them too.
I've never noticed a Score:6 before -- is there a limit on how high posts can go?
Nope, it's 19:42 GMT (11.46PST) and the site is up.
I was in santa cruz for one of the precious new years riots at the town clock and it was lame. It was about as riot like as a high school foot ball game (a 1992 harbor football game even). Dave Ninja
Not always (had the low for the day) .. ask anyone who lives in the Midwest about freaky storms and cold fronts.. we've had days that started in the 50's at 1am and by 6pm it was zero. :)
Where did you learn that? The century has always been one digit larger than the first two numbers of the year, i.e. the 18th century is the 1700s, and the 1900s are the 20th century. It's a common fact. The year 100 AD was the second century because the time between 0 and 100 was considered the 1st century of the A.D. calendar. Therefore the time between 100 A.D. and 200 A.D. was the second century, making the time between 1900 and 2000 the 20th century, and 2000-2100 the 21st century.
why are you assuming the person you are talking to is a man or a lesbian? =P The truth is the truth and it is the truth.
I am trapped in the bunker at work, all managment thinks that hell is about to enter this reality, and all the engineers are deciding whether to watch another western (Eastwood or Wayne? Eastwood or Wayne?) or play another round of StarCraft. Hmmmm, wonder which group is correct in their assumptions about the impending "milliniem"?
Interesting how it's "hoarding" when you can't find what you want at the grocery store, but it's "prudent disaster preparedness" that I have the emergency candles I need... (BTW, they have already come in handy in the frequent and probably not Y2K related power outages we have here.)
Say I owe you 3000 dollars, and I pay it to you one dollar at a time. When I've paid you 2000 dollars, 2001 starts the next 1000, right? But if I pay you a PENNY at a time, then it starts at 2000.01.... (I'm sure everyone will disagree with that, but I like to muddy the waters. And yeah, there was no 0, but this kind of argument fucks with people. :)
I can't believe there are still idiots left who can't fucking figure this out. Items 1-100 are from the first set of a hundred, 101-200 from the second set of a hundred, etc.
It's a 6
Well everyone's doing their end-of-the-centry celebrations. You might want to check out public tv's (were available) countdown. Dare to be different.
BTW I heard (rumour) that japan was having some problems with their cellular phone system due to y2k. Can anyone confirm?
here's mirrored page:
http://www.sci.fi/~harriv/microsoftbug.htm
Just logged into our servers in singapore and sent an email using elm back here to the states... our elm is compiled back in 1996 too - check it out: Date: Sat, 1 Jan 100 05:19:17 +72800 (SGT) From: Super-User You have to love it! Thanks for the tip! ;) (Though w/ the atachments and html mail and everything people use these days, I wonder if anybody even uses elm at our sites anymore?)
In NZ, 10:40am. No problems as of yet (bar a few 486s that thought that Fri 1980-01-04 (yyyy-mm-dd) was a pleasant alternative to the truth). Squid 2.2 Stable 5 just returned Generated Fri, 31 Dec 1999 21:41:58 GMT so will post again after date ticks if Squid craps out.
Mine rolled over properly. Both a standard Palm III and a Symbol SPT1500.
I don't know anything about unix time keeping, but if it is in signed integers, then wouldn't it be in 2's complement form?
If it has been a while since a used 2's complement, but as I remember:
1000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
is not 0 but your most negative number (or in this case 1901, as some people have sugested) and
1000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001
is your second least most negative number. Therefore time won't be going backwards as sugested above.
var year = today.getYear(); //year = 00; if (year >= 98){ document.write ('Last updated ' + thismonth + date + ', 19' + year); } else { document.write ('Last updated ' + thismonth + date + ', 20' + '0' + year); }
Those were only SCUD-type launches in Chechnya -
Just "theater events".
Gotta say NORAD is pretty impressive.
I'm suprised, because mine will do it without any help at all!!!!
I think they close inactive accounts after a couple of months. You might not have a valid username anymore.
The rollover was an hour ago and .. well .. NOTHING happened. Even my old 486-box from 1994 survived :) Getting bored to death at work, though of course it's nice to get the extra salary from doing nothing.
a happy newyear from denmark!
Happy New Year to everybody from Switzerland as well!
You may find it uninteresting, but when your
bill comes w/ a due date of 1900 and you are
charged 100 years of late fees because of that
you won't be so noncomplacent.
Just like the newspapers said, the power will go cause of some crazy buggar in a car smashing in to a pole.
I'd like to report that Starcraft-Brood Wars is Y2K Compatible =o) Regards, Guy in Sweden
Uhmmm... Sorry... The last one was a commercial... Good movie though!
Goddamit, am I sad or what?! Just rolled over to 0:00:00 2000 GMT. (in the UK, is where I am at) and feck all has happened. Power, phones (obviously - otherwise this wouldn#t be posted) work. And £100000 worth of fireworks have been burnt. And the much touted river of fire DIDNT WORK! hehehe! Happy New Millenium.
Just kidding. It worked OK really ;-)
What? http://www.millennium-centre.gov.uk/bulletins.htm down? The page cannot be found The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
For anyone out there who might be interested, the EverQuest game servers had a packet loss spike at 5:40 and one just now at 5:59 (my watch). Sounds like a few routers weren't totally complaint, eh?
Squid/2.2.STABLE5 Ticked over here in NZ without hickup. I think I shall have a coffee.
Check out this two pages http://www.telekom.com.my http://www.tmsol.com.my Do you notice some weird date? Year 202000 for http://www.telekom.com.my Year 192000 for http://www.tmsol.com.my
The only millennium glitch heard of in Australia so far was with some mobile ticket validation machines on the buses in Hobart and Adelaide, and that's already been fixed.
There's going to be an awful lot of pissed off religious nuts, and it couldn't happen to a nicer lot.
BTW - on TV here we have crosses to CNN, which seems to be obsessed still with the Y2K bug despite the fact that probably 3/4 of the world's population has seen in the new year. Wakey, wakey!!!!!
The year 2000 has arrived and so far things are looking as follows:
:-)
OpenBSD 2.4/i686 box ok
Dual boot win98/rh6.1 box ok
Dual boot win3.11/freebsd 3.1 box ok
FreeBSD 2.8 box ok
HPUX 10.20 Series 9000/700, applied y2k core patch and running ok
Solaris boxes on 2.5.1, 2.6 and 7 all ok
My Palm V on Palm OS 3.1 rolled over ok
So did my Nokia 6110
If your timezone has already passed midnight, try visiting http://www.ugu.com/y2k to see an interesting glitch.
Have a nice rest of the millennium!
The year 2000 has arrived and so far things are looking as follows:
:-)
OpenBSD 2.4/i686 box ok
Dual boot win98/rh6.1 box ok
Dual boot win3.11/freebsd 3.1 box ok
FreeBSD 2.8 box ok
HPUX 10.20 Series 9000/700, applied y2k core patch and running ok
Solaris boxes on 2.5.1, 2.6 and 7 all ok
My Palm V on Palm OS 3.1 rolled over ok
So did my Nokia 6110
If your timezone has already passed midnight, try visiting http://www.ugu.com/y2k to see an interesting glitch.
Have a nice rest of the millennium!
My Win98 machine is down! I wonder why? :-)
/trojankill.htm
http://www.cai.com/press/1999/12
Dun't care. I'm fucxking stoned and i don't give a shirt about your whytookay probbbblem.
Also i have trubblezsss tupping.
Stijn.
PS: whAt the h3ll is BURKING?
http://news.cnet.com/news/search/results/1,10199,0 -1002,00. html?tag=st%2Ene%2E1002%2Esbsr&qt=netscape&cn=&ca= 1002
The guy who created our calander coded it in Pascal, and every Pascal weenie knows that in Pascal we start counting at 1.
I just talked to a friend who called her brother in Tokyo at 1AM Tokyo time. He was surprised that she got through because nobody in his part of Tokyo had been able to make a phone call since midnight. Overloaded phone system or Y2K? Who else has called Japan today?
Check out http://www.2600.com they didn't make it.
haha 2600.com
What's the difference between "thus" and "thusly"?
The only penalty would be from being a year early.
Christ's birthyear is completely unrelated to the commoners' current inability to count in discrete sets.
I did an online update at 2:14am Central European Time from MS Money to my ETrade account... it updated the stock prices for the day with one small problem... ETTIX..an Etrade Tech mutal fund updated with a misplaced dot in teh number and apparently my 123 shares of that are now worth $1421.00 each!! They were worth $14.77 last night.. what a gain!!!!!!!! The quote is a correct $14.21 on their site, so don't know to blame it on MS or Etrade!!
I was just walking down valencia street in san francisco and saw an accident - a small car rammed into the back of an suv stopped at a light, and lost. Looking into the back window of the car, I saw that it was loaded with those huge water cooler jugs and other y2k supplies. Clearly, preoccupied with the wrong potential disaster.
Also in Minnesota... No real problems to report but coincidences that are amusing. A certificate expired today of all days and needed renewal (fortunately they were staffed). Cel phones acting up, but thats probably traffic. Pretty much bored.
It's now half one in the morning and my RH6.0 box is working as normal, phones are still here, TV and videos are on, life, goes on.
The only glitch here is that the news server on my machine (serving only me) is giving me all the newsgroups regardless of whether they are new or not... A morning fix I think.
I'm taping the New York celebrations - good luck USA, will wake up and find out how things are going.
JG.
There are several server-side methods of creating HTML. ASP, PHP, and (I think) Servlets, etc. This isn't necessarily a fake, although it might be.
-Drane
my y2k mirror page:
http://www.x5ca.net/~drane/y2k/
And sort it out later ;) from a small island in the pacific.
I just wanted to wish everyone that still is in 1999 a happy new year from germany ... ....
everything working fine as always even after local time and UTC rollover so the only thing left to do is CELEBRATE
All is fine here in Australia. I'm just trying to recover from last night right now :) Some IRC networks are having problems with their irc daemons, Austnet for example:
*** ozemail.nsw.au.austnet.org 946690891 0 Saturday January 1 19100 -- 12:41 +11:00
It should be adding 1900 to the year, not prepending '19' - more recent irc servers (ie. undernet) seem to not have this bug.
Cheers, and happy new year to all!
Maybe you should read a book like _Gods of the New Millennium_ (by Alan Alford, www.eridu.co.uk) first before coming to such conclusions that the year 2000 is 'just another date'. In one aspect, you're right since the Gregorians just began counting from Christ's birth - but as it happens many religions talk about many different things happening around this era to humanity and it also so happens that the Earth's precessional cycle (which changes every 2160 years) is moving from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius... So who knows?
http://www.rog.nmm.ac.uk/leaflets/new_mill.html
Well the date has officiallk gone over to 2000 and mk Win95 skstem has gone and changed all the k's (rhkmes w/ pie) to k's Aaaargh Can ank of kou help me?
"We can't fix the bug, so let's just move this one month earlier. At least we'll look good."
We're from Germany and so far no nuclear powerplant and no computer has crashed.... So when does the apocalypse really start??? Lets see what happens, when New York celebrates the new year... The Millennium Hit of today is : Tom Jones and The Cardigans with "Burning down the House"
And they call weather "WX," passengers "PAX," and maintenance "MX." Go figure.
Anyone else noted the date on www.apple.com just below the image of a G4 ?? ...
And they really want to sell Gigaflops-computer in 20100 ??? what a pity
... or does this mean the bug that won't allow the G4 to reach >450 Mhz won't be fixed until then ?
Actually, the odd thing was that the link text DIDN'T have a space in it, according to IE- and retyping it didn't solve it. Of course, the moral of the story is to use Netscape, but you may have noticed that Win32 Netscape is even less stable than IE.
-You might want to reconsider the engine choice: The Hemi is a great engine for power, but a pain to keep running, while the 440 six-pack has almost as much power with the added advantage of being more reliable and easier to find parts for. Yeah and I bet synchronizing three carbs and all having to mantain an overly complicated fuel system would be a fun chore for those boring days
It's 03:59 in Sweden and everything works fine, sadly Sweden is so well organized that nothing seems to screw up, boring really. I suppose Y2K is about to reach the USA in a few hours and I hope you are as lucky (or unlucky) as we've been. -Andreas
Your spuds will be shredded miles away with my air compressor and stainless steel whistle cannon.Very low tech (and deafening) but can drop just about anything on the ground or in the air. My schwinn bicycle and baby carrier modified to transport my whistle will make deliver a sonic shock at a range of about two miles around our suburban fortress. scared of nothin! in the post-Apocaplyse hot dog contests.
They have Kenny Rogers on! He looks just like the parody they do on Mad TV! And Lou Gramm and that other Foreigner guy. Is that Don McLean? There was the horrible horrible Kenny G y2k song thing, which he FAKED the playing of! And Bill and Hillary trying to act like "white soul brothers" who are down with the soul that Will Smith is belting out. This shit is happening on the steps of the Lincoln Monument? Is nothing sacred anymore? I hardly ever watch TV and this is having a very bad effect on me. I think I have suffered a fatal blow to the mind. I am trying to bend but I feel the structure breaking... Is that Trisha Yearwood and somebody singing "Abraham, Martin, and John"?!!?! PLEASE NO MORE! NO MORE! NO
I was in Central Auckland at work for Telecom Managed Services, and I had a most boring night... Spent most of it browsing the web and talking to some guys from work who stayed until 5am drinking.... So a most normal night... Back in again tonight from 11pm to 7am.. I'm on standard shift work, so there goes... Anyway HAPPY NEW YEAR....
Actualy its about the year 3170 or so, ifyou go back to the original calander before it was reset to 1AD reference, they should have left it as it was from the first date.
Its the damn Romans who took the calander system from the Egyptions and then the Christians re ferenced it from 1AD for some stupid reason, it was DENIS'S fault , thats his name
cept he wouldn't really have to pay that cuz no one, except possibly you, would actually do that.
still don't give a fuck .
Oh my god! The machines at my work are falling apart like crazy! We're running all Win 3.1 boxes and none of them are working correctly anymore. We just passed midnight 45 minutes or so ago. We can't even leave the building because our doors are controlled by the security system which is running on a Win 3.1 box as well. I am trapped in here with the rest of the IT team. I can't beleive this is happening. The copiers are spewing paper as if they were possessed. Everything is a mess! Some of the junior IT staff is panicking and making matters worse by tearing apart the place. I never pictured it like this! Woah. What's this? Oh my god... I can't be.. no.. I won't believe it. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.........
http://www.westwood.com/newindex.html Year = 1900
My JVC camcorder is going crazy.... cant take video, all the lights are on and going nuts..... cant change the date back..... im screwed. on a better note, all computers are working great
it's a Y2K Javascript bug: Missouri Mental Health Web Site
What's a `milenium'? I don't see why you should expect other people to be able to count when you can't even spell.
Happy New Year to y'all from Buenos Aires!
Did anyone else notice the countdown clock on ABC's coverage of New York? I'm in maryland, USA and the on-screen clock that was super-imposed on the new-york picture read: 15:02 15:01 14:00 14:59 14:58 ... It seems people were so enthused about the fireworks and y2k that no one bothered to check their own work!
While nothing happens. Did I mention I'm drunk off my ass???? Cheers from Cali.
All is well in Des Moines, Iowa! No cows spewing spoiled milk from the 1900's or farmers chasing people with pitch forks. I think the capital of Iowa could of done a little better Y2K celebration though.
Happy New Years! -Josh
Rediculous. How can you say everything is fine when you live in Canberra?
my xdaliclock is backwards too, showing 12:10:51 (posting from silicon valley, where the lights, water, and dsl are all still working at the moment)
Everything still up and running in Los Angeles. My linux is running ok; win95 is ok and WINNT is up. Hey and guess what no pages from work to come in and fix anything. Hmmm. Maybe the paging service is done?
My machine refused to boot from IDE-0, then when I boot from floppy, the serial port and network card are not recognized. After I changed/saved BIOS settings, Power off, changed BIOS date, reinstall chos boot loader, and all of a sudden everything works fine. Dare not to boot into my Windows 95 yet.
My computer rolled over to January 4th 1980, but after manually changing the date to Jan 1 2000 everything seems okay! That's the only problem I've encountered to this point.
Local radiostation seems to have real mixed up playlist... We had year change about 11 hours aga, so don't if this actually Y2K bug... Anyway all the DJ pieces and actual songs playing are different... Quite funny actually. Station can heard all over the Finland and in Sweden too. They are in web; www.kiss.fi and also have RealAudio stream available : http://www.kiss.fi/ontheair/live.htm Yeah, live indeed :)
Maybe it is a y2k bug :-)
http://www.jc-news.com/pc
Minnesota: Macalester College's network is unreachable. I wonder if the problem lies with the Mac network or with the SP (mrnet/onvoy). Anyway, I created a slashdot account to send this message but I can't get to the password which was sent to my macalester email account. :|
Well, in Scandinavia we have cell phones with email access, whereas in the US most people are still on analogue... :b
Welcome to the club, I created an account earlier to post and it hasn't come through in about 20 hours.
The windows 98 installation program crashes soon after starting it where before(2000) it worked fine - seems like a bug in win98.
What's a `millenium'?
I live in Auckland, New Zealand in a suburb called Remuera where the power went out at 9pm for a couple of hours - not y2K though, a car hit a power poll and took out the suburb's power until a new poll was installed. My GSM Digital mobile still works fine, and so does the TV and my home pc which is (for reasons that shall remain confidential) still running windows 95. However, due to the above mentioned power cut, it was powered down at the turn of midnight. Still, after the champagn breakfast in the morning I'll head to the office and see if the NT or Linux servers need re-booting.... Bets are that NT will... Still, NZ survived the turn of the Mil ok...
http://www.y2k.govt.nz/home/Navigati onpage.htm supposedly has relatively up-to-date info on Y2k troubles in New Zealand...
Currently up to four incidents (up from the one water station a few hours ago)... and the map still thinks it's 9 seconds to midnight- wonder if that's a bug, or a precautionary measure?
In the true spirit of procrastination, I head out in a few hours to install some compliant billing software... and the man in charge just told me he'd like to see that office network wired to the internet before the end of the day... Had to pick the worst day of the year to want it done, and I know jack about firewalling or IP masqing and don't intend to learn while doing something that actually has to stand up under fire.
-FIRST GRIPE OF THE NEW YEAR - www.jerkcity.com HUAGHUAGHUAGH
P.S. - Someone tell me why that space appears in the link text when it's not in the entry field- and why it DOESN'T appear in the actual HREF..?
The number zero was introduced, along with the Arabic numerals we use today, in the 13th century, but the church refused to allow them to be used, simply on the grounds that they were invented by Muslims.
However, zero and the numbering system we use today did eventually make it into acceptance by the 16th century, and greatly simplified mathematics in Europe.
We can't really blame the church for 2000/2001 issue, because the current year numbering system that we used (2BC, 1BC, 1AD,...) was originally designed by a monk in either the 7th or 8th century, before we even heard of the Arabic numbering system or zero.
The 20th century started January 1st, 1901, according to every document out there (See the NY Times Jan 1, 1901 edition). Unless we are about to finish a 99 year century, we will be in the twentieth century and the third millenium for the next year.
Also, the reason Author C. Clark named his epic "2001, a Space Odyssey" is because way back in the late 1960's, the year 2001 represented the dawn of a new millenium.
And if these "new" CE calendar people have added a year zero, then this must be 1998.
This is a combination of stupid people and a media that is hype obsessed. Given the total flop that is this new years, with celebations cancelled, cruise ships half empty, and hotels begging for patrons, I fully expect the hype for the next new years to be "Celebrate the REAL Millenium".
Drane here. Mirrored the swissinfo site and whatever else I find at:
http://www.x5ca.net/~drane/y2k/
Feel free to mail me the HTML of any other sites that do stupid things. My mail address is on my site, or anyone with half a brain can figure it out from my URL above.
Wow! Y2k just hit here in Japan! There's hookers rioting and I think our television shows stopped causing seizures. Also, my friend and I have taken to burning the city with torches. Oh, and I found out condoms don't work after Y2k.
we really need another moderation choice:
"Unimaginably stupid"
It might be abused, but it is sorely needed.
Not quite right. There was a "end of week roll over" a few months ago which is a seperate issue. Some units are 2000 complient and some not. Most have to be re-started at the changeover if they are up and running.
I'v found that for som r ason my comput r is no long r abl to print out th l tt r " ". And wh n I s t my syst m tim back to 12/31...
it once again works! Unbelievable! Well, I'll just have to keep rolling back the date, I guess.
I drive and engineer race cars in my spare time, so I figure I'd share some observations with you before you start wandering in the desert:
.50 cal - dirt simple, highly reliable, easy to maintain, and ammo is simple to fabricate.
:)
- The Car: The 'Cuda is a good choice as far as technology goes - no EMP-sensitive ECU to blow out in case of a nearby nuke, and all the engine sytems are mechanical. This means you have wear issues to worry about (on things like ignition points) but it's a whole lot easier to fabricate a set of points in a high school metal shop that it is to fab a transistorized ignition.
However, your fuel system needs some thought. At roughly 7 lbs/gal, your fuel tanks will mass 770 lbs when full. And then a trunk full of concrete (huh?) is probably on the order of 500lbs - for a total weight addition of 1320 lbs.
Now a 'Cuda is probably 3700 lbs, and has a weight distribution of 60/40 - so that means roughly 1480 lbs over the rear wheels. All your new mass is right over the rear end, so now you've got 2800 lbs over the rear end.
This changes your weight distribution to 44/56.
Now to handle the extra weight, you welded the rear suspension solid. Yow! With a rear-weight bias and a solid rear suspension, this is going to be one EVIL handling car. It's going to be undrivable loose - the back end in going to keep trying to pass the front end.
But before you even get to that point, you're going to have to locate a set of rear tires with a load capacity of 1400 lbs each - nearly 3 times higher than the rating on the stock tires. Good luck!
And then there's the questionable wisdom of placing large, fixed masses directly _behind_ the driver. The first big impact is probably going to tear those tanks and that concrete block loose from their mountings, and you'll be crushed against the engine block. Ouch!
No, the well-equipped post-apocolyptic car gang member is going to be driving a diesel AM General Hummer:
- Diesel engines will run on damn near anything that will burn. In theory, you could filter the grease pit behind your local Burger King and run on the used cooking oil. And there's no ignition system to fail either.
- The Hummer is rated to carry large loads. In fact, you've got enough capacity for 3 of those drums, plus a barrel of engine oil too.
- Many Hummers, if sourced creatively, come already equipped with weaponry of various sorts. I, personally, would recommend a Browning
Although it's hard to pass up on the TOW-2 pintle mount version.
- The Hummer has lots of ground clearence - good for climbing over spurious obstacles.
Good luck!
Over here in Breda, the Netherlands nothing bad happened.. just a lot of fun.. even the NT servers at work are functional (at least to pings)
It's 1:11 AM right now (0:00 UTC) and still no problems.
Sorry for any (spelling) mistakes: blame the beer and champagne!
Happy New Year to Slashdotters everywhere!!
To be most specific, it is a first-century-turning-after-computers-are-invented bug. Any new invention will start out minimal, and slowly evolve larger/better. Computers were born this century, and naturally, back then memory was expensive so they cheated on dates. Were computers invented in 1850, or 2050, it would be the same situation. Heck, there probably was some programs that were made to operate only the year they were written, and would suffer a similar new-year bug.
You've got it all wrong:
cat man
While you're at it:
apropos 'What to wear to the party?'
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
After seeing "Anna and the King" last night I wanted to know more about King Mongkut. I searched on "Mongkut" at Excite and tried the first reference:
g kut.html
http://www.geocities.net/Athens/Aegean/7545/Mon
IE took me to this disgusting site instead:
http://www.youcansave.com/healthbeauty.html
In fact, any attempt to access geocities seems to be routed to this site. Has geocities been hacked? Does my computer have a really sick URL reroute virus? I'd like to know!
I do agree that the name millenium bug is silly (for more reason than one), but somehow I seriously doubt that that's the idea was what that spokesperson wanted to express. :-)
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Linux user since early January 1992.
Not neccessarily. 2Km = 2 Kilo meter = 2000 meter. Only in computerland 2K equals 2048, and while The Bug mainly is a computer problem, counting years is not a computer concept. Besides, what to do with paper forms on which the 19 has been preprinted? It's the basically same problem even with no computer in sight.
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Linux user since early January 1992.
It is now 00:05 here in Tokyo and the invasion has started. The grey aliens flying a huge purple and pink santa sley (being pulled by 200 orange penguins) have landed in the middle of Roppongi (huge party district in Tokyo) on top of the GasPanic Club 99. They exited the ship and began distributing Elvis key holders to the masses all the while screaming, "Akemashite Omedeto-gozaimasu!!"
Power is on. Beer is flowing. I'm stuck at work!
Actually, you can teach a donkey how to sing, but he will still sound like an ass...
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Kir
3cx.org - A truly bad website.
Everything ok here in Texas so far. Power, water, TV, Phone, Internet etc...
Linux says:
Sat Jan 1 01:31:54 CST 2000
No problems there...
Codifex Maximus ~ In search of... a shorter sig.
Guess what happened? (go on...guess)
Nothing!
Happy New Year!!!
VENI! VIDI! VICI!
If you're interested in seeing the coming apocolypse for yourself, check out the chaos in every timezone.
Hi! Its been 2h30 of 2000 Now and everything is still as it was. Both our Cellphone and Landline providers were overloaded from just after 00:00.
Otherwise, our Electricity is still here, our toilets are still flushing and hopefully the sun will come up in a few hours.
Linux x86&Alpha, Digital Unix, Irix, etc. boxes are humming all happilly into the new millennium.
how did that happen? I haven't seen a 6 in months, and there are none in the hof
is this now officially the best comment ever?
/ k.d / earth trickle / Monkeys vs. Robots Films /
Large print giveth, and the small print taketh away
The real interesting effects won't happen until 2038 when all 32 bit time structures roll over to 1901. Unfortunately, since the average suit can't relate to a base 16 rollover in the same way they can relate to a base 10 rollover you can be sure the 2038 overflow won't make so much as a blip on the public consciousness. Just think about how many programs hard code their time structures in int32 to avoid debugging on 64 bit chips, how many solid state devices rely on 32 bit registers to cut costs.
Check this link? Chatham,New=zealand
http://swissinfo.net/cgi/worldtime/clock.pl
The server seems to have a small problem with the date change
http://www.xpurple.com
All that bottled water and canned goods will last be OK until he can sell it all.
Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.
- W. Wriston, former Citibank CEO
If you would like to know about other countries' Y2K preparedness, or whether or not they still exist, check out http://www.iy2kcc.org/.
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You're right, Tom, i phrased that badly. strftime() exists in Perl, within the POSIX module. BUT... i'll still say that it's somewhat more understandable that programmers would make the Y1C error (how's that for a turn of phrase?) in Perl than in C. ctime() is part of Perl without loading any modules. strftime() is not... unless you're already an experienced C programmer (enough to know about strftime()), or read a LOT of documentation on Perl, you won't know about it. In C, on the other hand, the standard libraries are MUCH smaller and easier to study, and more importantly, strftime() is documented right alongside ctime()... on the same page, iirc.
So Perl is no more prone to Y1C than C. However, Perl *programmers* are more prone to Y1C than C programmers. Is that better phrasing?
As for the prevalence of the Cut and Paste Programming Antipattern with Perl... again, it's a lot easier in Perl than it is in C. When i found 150+ scripts with the bug, many of those scripts didn't even USE the timestamp string generated. And virtually all of those scripts dated to Perl 4, or stuck to Perl 4 conventions. Was there a POSIX module then?
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Hand me that airplane glue and I'll tell you another story.
I have now seen a few instances of the "19100" bug, sometimes as the 100 bug - 2000 gets displayed as either 100 or 19100. Several people have commented on this, but missed a crucial point. So i thought i'd explain this bug some.
The 19100 bug comes from improper use of the header in the C standard library. It is much more common in Perl than C, but much more disappointing in C.
To learn about this, get out your battered copy of K&R (you DO have K&R, don't you? _The C Programming Language_, by Kernigan and Richie. If you only have one book on C, it should be this one). Turn to the reference in the appendix. Look at the description of struct tm. You'll see that tm->tm_year is the years *since 1900*. So, to print years correctly, in either two-digit or four-digit form, we must add 1900 to tm->tm_year.
Here's where naive, amateurish C programmers mess up. They do not learn their standard libraries, and thus reinvent them poorly. The strftime() function provides printf()-style formatting for struct tm. It will print the year correctly in either two-digit or four-digit form. Programmers who don't know their libraries just stick tm_year in a printf() somewhere, without accounting for the missing 1900, something like this:
printf("19%d", tm->tm_year);
which will print 1999, then 19100. The libraries are very good (with the glaring exception of some security holes!). Learn them and use them.
Perl is where this bug comes into its own. For various reasons either obvious or opaque to you, strftime() does not exist in Perl. And the contents of struct tm are handed back from ctime() as an array. Therefore, more programmers are likely to not look deep enough to see how this SHOULD be handled, and do the 19100 bug, since they don't have a nice built-in library routine to do it for them.
This is a tremendous problem. When doing Y2K checking for a previous job, i found this bug in over 150 Perl scripts, mostly due to cut-and-paste programming (Perl unfortunately encourages that approach). I also found it in the popular wwwboard online discussion script. I'll bet it's all over the place.
Hopefully, someone finds this informative, and maybe moderates it up so it actually gets READ.
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Hand me that airplane glue and I'll tell you another story.
Yesterday Microsoft Finland's open jobs page reported some jobs beginning at 1900. It was fixed faster than whetever, but I heard from local Holy War newsgroup it was yesterday in evening TV news... =)
They had let an "ASP Guru" loose at some point and, well, the results looked like it...
As far as personal problems: Well, it's 20:01 here and everything is fine... so far. I doubt anything special happens.
Very good point... Its like the television networks broadcasting when certain areas can expect to have their power restored after an outage. Um, if the powers out, how the hell are they going to get the broadcast?
THE END IS NIGH!!
BANG FLASHES AND CRASHES EVERYWHERE - THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
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Hahahhahha!
Hahhahaha!
Hahahahahah!
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And I say again!
Hahahhahha!
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I'm afraid that according to slashdot you're at:
12:09 PM December 31st, 1999 GMT
Hahahaa.
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and we even had an evil Win98 box sitting next to my Linux notebook. My notebook ran my customized JBC, displaying both the date and the time. Minor amusement to watch it roll over... my mom insisted on stockpiling water in the bathtub in case the water stopped so we still could flush, even though the local paper ran a front-page story on how the water supply was safe unless Newton's law of universal gravitation was repealed. I dropped a cork just to prove that it hasn't. Good thing the laws of physics still hold.
Jesus, my milk is nineteen hundred years out of date!! I want a refund!
I should be happy. At least the store still *had* milk to sell. I definitely see some hoarding here in Boston. All the candles in the supermarket were sold out.
Of course, I have my Baygen radio with a light, so I'm ready for the Y2K food riots and rape gangs.
For those who don't know, perl gives you back a year value which is the number of years SINCE 1900. Therefore, you calculate your year with $year = $perlYear + 1900; .. they probably just did "print '19$perlYear';"
AGH
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Never hit your grandmother with a shovel, for it leaves a bad impression on her mind...
But the century has never been the first two digits of the year. Nevermind the fact that it isn't even always the first two digits of the year plus one.
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Which doesn't necessarily mean it's down due to a Y2K bug; the San Jose, California, USA Mercury News had an article yesterday that began with:
Not all bugs that occur around the transition from 1999-12-31 to 2000-01-01 are Y2K bugs; there're plenty of bugs to go around....
The Optus Y2K Site claims, as of when I last checked, that
and, for what it's worth, the Optus home page says
It now, for what it's worth, says just "01 01 99".
Of course, it also says "Fireworks New Years Eve", while displaying a picture that, if it's evening, is early evening (unless, just as it's summer this time of year in the Antipodes, it's "evening" at 7 AM :-)), and looks suspiciously as if it's morning, as per the "07:15:56" it was displaying when I checked it; there aren't any fireworks to be seen, either.
Hot Grits, Inc.'ll have to buy out the domain name first.
Tempe, Arizona is fine. Nothing to see here folks. Move along.
I left the party before any of that happened.
I'm out of my tree just now but please feel free to leave a banana.
Yeah, I had a couple of scripts that did that. I had said something like:
printf( "%s%02d", $cent, $year )
The variable $cent contained either "19" or "20", depending on the value of $year. Looked fine, but when you get to y2k, that thing prints "19100". Ugh. RTFM time. Now it's like this:
printf( "%d", ( $year + 1900 ) )
Not the first time I have felt as stupid as a brick. But it made me feel a little better yesterday when the support team called me in a panic because they found the reference to "1900" in those scripts, "Oh, no! Hard-coded century! Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake!!"
I should have told them I had had to change it because it infringed the "windowing" patent >:-P
Just take a look at TV TODAY - tv program and have a big smile.
Until now I did not know that we germans had TV's since about 1900 years?
This one is especially for all those who cannot wait until midnight!
It is fixed! Seems there are really some people who have to work.
All fans of babelfish will be able to read this. They report some problems with nuclear power plants and some problem with earthquake detecting systems.
All systems (Optus, Telstra, Vodafone etc) have been up all night. The only reason you wouldn't have been able to get through is congested cell servers - which is why somepeople could get through and some couldn't. It is also why if you are in a non-popular area, your mobile phone will still work but if you are in the CBD, it won't.
Its getting its behavior from the way struct tm is defined in ANSI C. The year is 1900-based, but there isn't a Y2K problem since the year 2000 is just represented as 100. The tm structure can represent any year from (1900 + INT_MIN) to (1900 + INT_MAX).
Try this instead:
#!/usr/bin/perl
use Date::Calc qw(Add_Delta_Days Today);
($y,$m,$d) = Today(); #get today's date
print "$y $m $d\n";
($y2,$m2,$d2) = Add_Delta_Days($y,$m,$d,-1); #get yesterday's date
print "$y2 $m2 $d2\n";
Oh, and if you hadn't already guessed, your localtime routines failed because it returns the month as 0..11 instead of 1..12 like you were expecting. So you need to add 1 to the month variable when you use (localtime)[5,4,3]
Date::Calc didn't like it when you asked it to calculate for November 31 1999 because it doesn't exist.
It's caused by poor coding...after you get the time structure in 'C', the years is the number of years since 1900...you should print this as:-
printf("The year is %4u",year+1900);
...and not...
printf("The year is 19%2u",year);
....as the latter rolls over to 19100.
All your ghosts are just false positives.
Their clock momentarily went a minute early with each minute. Bad programming, I presume.
I have three words for you:
jour nal ing
i'm through
For your dad's machine, you might grab "Y2000" from Mega 16-Bit Freeware's DOS Utilities. Freeware, 31K. Prints out to the screen while testing. readme.txt explains in not-too-geekish terms about system clocks etc.
If the BIOS or CMOS is the culprit, there's a freeware workaround at the top of the same page. With source. I didn't need it myself, but purports to get around the annoyance of setting the date every time Dad reboots.
EVERYTHING IS GOING TO WORK.
Hmm. I don't think so. But still no reason to stockpile though. If there is something going wrong, it's going to be one type of shops say "A&P" being "down" (in the computer sense) in the next millennium. That however doesn't mean you can't get food, even if you normally buy all your food at A&P.
9600 9599...
Roger.
"cal 9 1752" is THE way to check if your "cal" program gets the difficult things right. The correct answer is the one you quoted.
The "bug" was in the calendar, which had 365.2500 days/year instead of the 365.2425 that we use now. A guy named Gregorius (or something like that) in the 1750-ies figured it out and they decided to drop 11 days out of september 1752....
Riots broke out because people felt robbed of 11 days of their life: They thought they were destined to die on say december fifth, and that this way they'd live 11 days shorter.....
Different countries dropped the 11 (or 13 by the time everyone caught up) days at different times. Russia, I believe only joined the rest of the world after the october revolution (1917).
So actually, calendars between september 1752 and 1917 need a country-of-validity. The switchover in september 1752 was probably "vatican".
Roger.
Ok. Cal is English. Gregory was two centuries earlier.
Well...it's 6:27 here (CET) and I'm still alive. We stockpiled a lot of booze, but it's alle gone now ;)
We have still got: Water, electricicity, 'net-connection and the telephones are working....
I hope you guys in the US make it....
Happy new year!!!
=Malthe
--
"No. No way, we Russians don't drink any more. We now work on computers, we use computers to send viruses to
the West and then we poach your money."
Vladimir Zhirinovsky 1999
Here in Hawaii, firecrackers and other kiddie stuff are legal (a 4 foot string costs about $2). Aerials and other more stout fireworks are illegal, but are very plentiful. This year was great. You can watch someone else put on a fireworks display (which is great if well done), but lighting the fuse yourself is not too shaby.
So to my good friends out there. Peace on Earth, software for everyone, and a sincere wish that there will be a Y3K celebration.
Aloha and haole makahiki hou!
Ummm... isn't that the definition of ANY Y2K bug? They are all "bad programming", or at least programming decisions based on assumptions that are no longer true.
Your Servant, B. Baggins
I'm a systems administrator at a large ISP in Tokyo, and we completed our first few rounds of systems testing and nervous anxiety after the 2000 rollover.
Nothing to report, which is good. One interesting note, perhaps: I was asked to power down the Linux systems a few minutes before midnight because if the power went out, the filesystems would take too long to fsck (we have a large RAID connected to a couple of them).
No power outages, sewage overflows, or anything abnormal. I'm ready to pop this bottle of Möet champagne now!
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Tom, you're blessed with being surrounded by
intelligent people.
I'm not convinced the average american can count to 8.
-fb Everything not expressly forbidden is now mandatory.
Coming up 3am and doubtless a few other countries now have had midnight come and go without the world collapsing in a chaotic heap of doom. Come 2000/01/01 12:00:01 the power was still on, TV still broadcasting (although after a few minutes of the moron they had doing the presentation I was starting to wish the TVNZ studios would have a localised Y2K power problem), just checked and water is still flowing from the taps (I don't need to go wee-wee or poo-poo just now so I'll take it on faith that the sewage system is still working). My main Linux box is running and knows what time it is, Internet connectivity is fine, ssh'ed to work and all the servers are up and know what time it is, the work web site is happy as Larry etc. Haven't turned on the other PC or the Amiga yet. Will be interesting to see what the SparcStation 2 running non-Y2K-compliant SunOS 4.1.3 does when I try booting it up...
:-)
Oh, in other news, I might've been on track for the first road accident of the new millenium when I found myself going sideways on a *very* slippery corner on a wet and windy road coming home a couple of hours ago. Managed to straighten up safely though, would have been heaps of fun if I'd done it deliberately
Apparently the morons who started to count the
years since christ didn't know about the number
zero and started to count at one.
Following their way the years would be from
1-2000 to get 2000 complete years.
On the other hand they also didn't know how to
count as they screwed up by 4 or 5 years or even
more.
Considering that nowadays many of us know how
to count we ignore this bullshit and count
correctly and yes the new millenium starts
tonight.
We've actually been in the new millenium for
at least 4 years but no one is asking to
change the calendar to please the purists.
It would be too much of a pain in the ass and
the year is just a reference in time anyway.
My advice is to get a life and stop looking
at life in the eyes of an idiot.
Your stupid argument is much like that of
the discussions about the sex of angels
in the middle ages.
>If we follow your logic and agree to begin a
... ...
>millenium with the year 0, and not the year 1 as
>it is in use in the Christian Era calendar, then
>we must also apply this to months and days. And
>tomorrow, we will be the 0 Jan of the next
> millenium!
Actually the months are like in a dozen
1/12, 2/12, etc
days are
1/30 (28, 29 0r 31), 2/30, etc
The year is a reference in time, in this
case to a mythical birth of the god of
christians which apparently is wrong anyway.
The 20th century had a year 1900, we just missed
the year 0 because people were too ignorant
in those days. But then again they screwed up
with the birth of their god (or messie). The
millenium would have been passed 4 years ago.
My message to all the fanatic "2001" morons.
Get a life and wake up to the modern world, a
world where some of us know how to count.
I wonder how many Y2K related pranks are going to be pulled in the next 24 hours? I can see this happening over and over:
A large group of friends and family gather together to celebrate the new year. The countdown commences.. 10..9..8..7..6..5..4..3..2..1.. HAPPY.. and the power goes out! Some prankster hanging around the circuit box had cut the power. A portable air raid siren could only help matters at this time.
Can you imagine the reaction? I think that will prove irresistable to some people.
to many fireworks sounds like a war zone
Yes, I actually use Netscape for an email program. For me, it's more than adequate. However, after coming back from a lovely murder mystery party, I've tried to email several people. The error I recieve is 'cannot resolve name, please check address in preferences and try again' or something close. In Pine, however, I can email just fine. So I'm not sure what the problem is. Just my .02
I'm sorry. What I meant to say was 'please excuse me.'
what came out of my mouth was 'Move or I'll kill you!'
Just finished cleaning up the "hopefully" last y2k issue. Nothing major, just a couple of minor programs, ie closed source, that decided not to work this morning. I've got open source replacements ready to go, but have to wait for Monday to implement.
What really sucks is that I have to go into work Monday. Damn, was so looking forward to the world ending... Grin
Lando
/* TODO: Spawn child process, interest child in technology, have child write a new sig */
.. but it only affects the subway and trams, and the rumours say that it has nothing to do with Y2K. Anyway; we haven't crossed midnight here yet. ;-)
Ah.. yes, well. We already know this (most of us anyway). BUT! We do not care!
Let us celebrate in peace. Don't bother us about small technicalities.
Sorry.
No, you have not been the first person to ring in the new millennium.
You have not been the first person to scream happy new millenium.
You have not been the first person to send new millennium e-mail.
You weren't the first to check your phone line and your computers for millennium downtime.
You didn't make the millennium's first fart.
You didn't crack the first joke of the new millennium.
You did _not_ make the first slashdot post of the new millennium.
You were not the first of the new millenium to turn off the main power switch as a practical joke.
TomG
Oka
The main Australian site for Y2k event reports, http://www.y2kaustralia.gov.au/ clearly shows no events in any sector, in any state. Yet, the ABC breaking news site has a story of Y2k problems hitting a transport ticketing system in one or two states.
This is just one I've spotted. How many other events aren't being reported on official Y2k event reporting sites?
transposed the r and o, and replaced r with h. should have used dvhoak keyboard--no, wait, that doesn't seem to help...
Liberty uber alles.
Well..
My recent machine is OK with the Y2K bug.
I installed the Y2K patch for the Windows.
But a 486 machine my father use is a DOS based
one.
It rolled back 1980!
Well.. Not all computers ( IBM compatibles ) has its time origin as 1900. Some BIOS starts from 1980!
And.. An application program that my father should use has reports its time "1980" although the developers said that it fixed the bug!
Hmm..
Anyway, I'm not sure that S/W on my recent machine is also Y2K bug free.
Although it is solved on the OS/System level, it should also be solved on the application S/W level.
So? There are Javascript engines for the server side as well (Netscape's server products use them, for instance).
Aside: Win-Python also registers itself so that it can be used for ASP.
Now everyone will blame those Blue Screens of Death and random system crashes they are so used to on the year 2000, rather than Microsoft's abject software engineering practices. This has to be the best PR move by Microsoft since their proclimation of Windows NT being the "most popular UNIX" in the world.
As for your web page, yup, as of 8:40 AM CDT it is still down. Before blaming Y2K or the apacolypse, may I suggest a good, hard look at the underlying system. After all, you did say IE, right?
:-)
The Future of Human Evolution: Autonomy
Best wishes for xx00
tom
--
"Just believe everything I tell you, and it will all be very, very simple."
Gee, that gives you a whole 'nother year to learn how to spell MILLENNIUM! :) Yay!
/set trollmode off
;D
SlashSigTheorem: Humorous, Political, Critical, Constructive- If you have a
according to
this story on News.com, Startrek- voyeger's web site claims that the next episode will be aired.. 99 years and 364 days ago.
check it out here.
(and it's running a ASP script... why isn't this suprising?)
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Well, so far, after three hours and 13 minutes, nothing has happened... at least, the water is still running, electricity is working without a hitch, I have two computers at home which rolled over during a Warcraft II and Alpha Centauri match... no problems there... and finally, my Linux and NT servers seem to work OK. So, at least so far, nothings happened... still have to go check my account balance on the ATM, though...
We didn't drop off the map. Although if we had, I probably wouldn't have noticed at the time...
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I ate something that disagreed with me. Maybe I should have cooked him first.
It makes the bold statement about the gullability (with relation to computers) of the computer illiterate, and how easily they might have been fooled by this bug. In essence, it is my statement that nothing will happen, and if you think otherwise, poo on you.
Merry Apocalypse y'all.
Jeff
Well, it's half past two in Sweden and the government has reported that everything works. Apparently my laptop works, as indicated by MiTAC. The mobile phones and cordless phones work. So does the wooden stove. The desktop computer doesn't work though, but that was because I by mistake ripped out a few cords yesterday when I was going to install a second harddrive, so let's not blame Y2K. Live reports from Ericsson's main Y2K center reports that nothing at all has gone wrong. Everything has been going so well that it's almost boring. Well, well, at least there is a screendump of Microsoft's site we all can laugh at @ http://members.xoom.com/_wannabe/images/msy2k.jpg .
Happy new year everyone, and I hope that the rollover will work as painlessly in USA as in the rest of the world.
Did you see the Football Players answering basic questions on Leno last night?
Absolutley hillarious.
What is the planet closest to the Sun? (one wrong answer: earth)
At what Temperature does water Boil? (one wrong answer 32 degrees)
Who is the Govenor of WI/CA?
What country borders California? (wrong answer: Canada) (one response was is this a trick question?)
If it's not mutliple choice like who wants to be a millionaire, americans can't answer it.
Not Quite as difficult as why we have seasons, but some things should be basic knowledge.
I'm underground right now in the Graymalkompound. Topside it's raining and cold and the power has been poopie all day long. Luckily for those of us here underground our supply of Sweet Tarts and pepsi is going strong. I was kinda hoping I'd be one of the few people left to repopulate the planet. At least I get to be one of the last people to find out if I'm Y2K compliant. We love you Boris!!
I'm a loner Dottie, a Rebel.
Mac I am on gives date as 1/1/00.
About to boot into LinuxPPC, which I'm sure will go smoothly.
Happy New Year, everyone!
=moJ
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I don't see why people have such a hard time handling this. Most people can accept the fact that the 20th century is the 1900's. The same principle is at work. We start counting from 1, not zero when it comes to centuries and years. It wouldn't make much sense to talk about the zeroth century, or the zeroth year of our Lord.
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Celebrate the finer things in life
check out http://www.iy2kcc.org/summary_chart_az.ht ml for an alphabetical list of countries and their status.
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Celebrate the finer things in life
yes, that would work. I guess we could just declare today to be December 31st, 1998. :)
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Actually, that's been a bit of a perl in-joke for some time since perl returns the current year as the number of years since 1900 -- in #perl there was talk of having YAPC 19100 next year :-)
David
What were we expecting, exactly? People writing in saying "The power's out, the phones are out, and I can't connect to the Internet"? One way or another, no one's gonna post comments like that ;-)
David
Since the Y2k rollover the cashless vending machines at our workplace (in UK) have stopped working! We're here on site (it's now 2:10am)providing Y2K support and if you insert your smartcard they say 'General Error - Date not set'!
rm -rf / is the evil of all root
Ever I switched from Fortran60 to C I've preferred zero based addressing. So I also advocate using a zero year. (Nobody who lives there is going to complain anyway, so why not!)
If you feel that you really must, just insert a zero year in between 1 AD and 1 BC. Almost all dates that old are sufficiently uncertain anyway that nobody will notice the difference. (The season they might notice. Shepards watch their flocks by night during the summer, as I understand it.)
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
Here, also in Minnesota, we've had a couple more-than-minor Y2K problems, but they started December 10th. The contact management database, Telemagic v14.0, is not Y2K compliant. It hit a recall date (take the current date and add 3 weeks) of past 2000. Once that happened, the entire customer database got hosed. All 55,000 records. On the 21st, Telemagic came out with a patch, but it only fixes the program so it won't screw up any more databases. This one is already screwed up...
Also, the launcher program KickOff (from WordPerfect 6.0), like Cron, reports the next launch date as 6am on 1/1/100. It is used to start this report printing software every morning. There is only one server here with the problem, but I know of another site with over 200 installations of KickOff...
Photos of bits of the past hiding in the present: afiler.com
Those of you too lazy to figure it out (I had a friend to the work for me):
Well, it looks like the Y2K bug didn't rear it's ugly head.
Yep, the doomsayers have been proven wrong yet again.
DId you see that too?
Houston. We have a problem.
Copyright (c) 1900 Iliad
http://www.userfriendly.org/
Not only that, but the link to the previous comic seems to be broken, sending you to 00jan/19991231.html instead of 99dec/19991231.html. Coincidence? I think not.
PBS is doing a 25-hour live broadcast showing things in each time zone. Throughout the day that's what we'll be watching to see not only what happens, but what different events people have going on to celebrate.
PBS' website has information on their home page. Lots of neat things, sure looks more interesting that broadcast tv.
They're already in hour 7, so far, no Y2K glitches. I think we're fine.
This is a big conference call/telephone bridge. AT&T, Sprint, AOL, UUNet, Earthlink, Cisco, etc etc etc..
Nothing actually happened in the call of technical import, but the following quotes were pretty funny:
"But we really don't think that's Y2K-related, being as Germany is still in 1999, right?"
"Not Germany, Jamaica."
"What about that cable problem in Japan?"
"No, it's not in JAPAN, it's in JAMAICA."
I woke up am 5pm [yes night owl I am] to my radio proclamming to provide Y2K covrage.. Keep up on all the Y2K news... blah...
Called into work... directed someone to turn on my computer and radio modem.. modem dosn't want to work.. ok no biggy.. directed the person to shut down..
By the time I got to work the modem was fine and the person was online checking up on her stocks. She says there was some news on one company in the early morning hours and she wanted to put in a buy order on-line... according to the information she could get nothing is happening in the stock market.. she might be able to get a good deal...
When she was done and I got to set up for my day I switched over from her account to mine.. pulled up some Y2K music "It's all a conspericy man.. this is how the freemasons plan to take over the united states government..." kick on IRC... pull up some web sites and wait... Someone mentioned CNN and I rembered that I could watch CNN over real audio so I pulled it up over the RealPlayer G2 alpha for Linux [Looks like Realmedia dosn't plan to support Linux for very much longer... time to make our own format.. hint hint]
I occasionally mentioned that my brain wasn't Y2K complient... other Y2K jokes went around... looking for the pissed off survivalists... they seem to be staying underground...
Ok first Y2K bug.. accually this one is an oldly.... My XT at home [The Back up] is trapped in the 1980s.. I knew this allready.. but it works fine... so who cares...
Next Y2K bug.. apparently someone on IRCs lighters arn't Y2K complient... they all died... oh well...
Next a website PVP isn't pointed at the right location for the Y2K commic... still pointing at 1999 subdirection.. apparently the year is hardcoded and has to be changed manually every year...
Next bug... My security camra works fine except for the fact that there is no 13/1/99 [13th month].. I have to fix this every year.. no biggy.. did it before... Unfortunatly it uses a 2 digit year but then that clock is a convence we can live without...
Next annother website Giga-byte now for the fun part.. Mac and Linux report year 2100 but a test version of Windows gets 4000.. It's the website and I don't know why it malfunctions diffrently for Windows but I suspect being a test version is part of that... The website reports the wrong year eather way...
In short the "Y2Kbugs" are related to disposable lighters.. website defects.. new year bugs and old 198X bugs.
Power dosn't go off... my brains didn't explode all over my desk.. and where are those pissed off survivalists... I need to laff in there faces... dang it they must be in hinding...
I don't actually exist.
Do people forget how to program when they
. pl?THOUGHTS
have to start dealing with POST and GET???
The guy works for Bindview too... great
PR for them
oh, the link:
http://www.theknow.com/dave/cgi-bin/displaypage
ha! I wonmder nhow many people actually get that joke?
BTW, what date is in in Julian time?
"I just can't sit while people are saying nonsense in a meeting without saying it's nonsense" J Watson, Sci Am 288:(4)51
Well, at least the cyber cafe that I'm stuck in seems to be fine
Stuck? Well, that's fucking nice. I try to show you a good night out; a shit-fast connection to the world and the possiblity of seeing the world crash and burn, and what do I get? 'Suck in a cyber cafe'.
You pick the venue next fucking millennnium.
Apparently they were Scuds launched into Chechnya as part of the Russian offensive.
See this BBC article.
Well, perl hands you whatever it got in its
struct tm, which is the number of years since 1900
(point being it isn't perl-specific, this is a
feature of standard unix date-handling routines). So it's not necessarily a perl script.
demi
Well I'm in a hotel in Dusseldorf keeping an eye on CNN and wishing I could have a drink tonight. I'm supposed to be here in case of y2k problems with our systems but all that's happened so far is that I've realised just how bad CNN actually is... and I can't get BBC here!
I'd say the program is just prepending "19" to a date that starts from year 00 == 1900, but isn't limited to 2 date digits, so 2000 == year 100, and with "19" prepended, you get 19100. Someone really made a mess of the seconds-since-epoch date system here.
Well, the Quantas plane took off and flew over my house pretty much on time - I live across the Manukau, opposite the airport. Unfortunately the passengers missed my Y2K welcoming fireworks show of 180 fireworks going off on my veranda by about 30 seconds. Probably for the best...
:v)
Vik
Two out of two Symbol SPT1500 Palm devices running PalmOS 3.0 here failed to rollover to 2000.
:v)
The devices remained set at 31st December 1999 but did move to an AM time. They accepted a manual date change with no problems.
The SPT1500 is basically the same as a Palm III but has a Symbol laser barcode scanner built in to the top.
Vik
Well Its midnight central time here, but I can't check on my servers to see if they are ok because it seems the entire University of Alabama Network is unreachable. A traceroute shows the connection timing out in Auburn (I tried from my house in Mobile and a shell account I have in Michigan). I doubt this is Y2K related but its still an annoyance just the same. -Lee
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Everything is running smooth as silk here. The check engine light on my car kicked in about 10:15, but that is because I have a clogged fuel filter I think. Yuck.
One funny thing did happen though... on our ham radio emergency net the guy up at the Independence, MO police station had a bit of a scare. At precisely 12:00am the circuit breaker he was on popped. Guess it could not handle the load from the coffee pot, a computer, and a mobile rig.
I was hoping that the power would at least go out for an hour or so.. would be nice to see the stars without any light pollution.
Actually, the star of bethlehem was an alien spacecraft and Jesus was an alien/human hybrid (and thus had the superpowers, water to wine, walk on water, all that crap). Mary was abducted and impregnated which gave rise to the whole 'virgin birth' bs. Like the song from the Mr. Hankey's Christmas Classics album goes... "You can suck all the dick that you want and still be a virgin, Mary" Kenny kicks ass.
My IE homepage is currently down with ERROR 312.
:)
Perhaps this is a Y2K problem.
Well done Micros~1
lo -
hi 70
Er, that is the way they always show it.
I guess means "not applicable", since it's a "forecast" and Friday morning already happened.
... and since *everybody* misspells it -- then, there you go!
-- memoid
OK, got a fax from my dad in NZ this am, and he warned me about his Y2K problem... knocked over his Canterbury Draught...
So in deference to Him, I've decided to Saran Wrap my workstation "You can never be too careful"
-- Life: Hate the Game... Love the cereal
Actually, the riots were because the peasants were being paid wages by the day but charged rent by the month. Bad enough in February, when you're a couple of days short, but 11 days...
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Do I look like I speak for my employer?
Hrm. *runs quickly to fix a perl script*
I was just printing as yy/mm/dd for a program.
I guess that would give me 100/1/1 tomorrow.
oops.
(Now who says browsing slashdot at work isn't productive?)
Hello World, /. from those of us over the ocean in England without be penalised?
Well, we survived the GMT rollover (so far)! I know this is off topic, but please moderators, just for once, can't I say "have a great new Millennium" to everyone on
Jonathan.
http://www.jonmasters.org/
For those who don't know, perl gives you back a year value which is the number of years SINCE 1900. Therefore, you calculate your year with $year = $perlYear +1900; .. they probably just did "print '19$perlYear';"
Same thing is true for Javascript date/time functions in web browsers. Though IE and Netscape handle it differently. I believe IE works like Perl does above, but netscape, once it gets to "2000" just jumps from 99 to 2000. I wrote a script to fix this over a year ago for all the dates we display on websites at work, but someone yesterday just meantioned that they rolled ahead to 2000 and were getting Jan 30, 192000 as the date. It's always nice when you have a code library for people to use, but they decide to go ahead and write there own code any way, and the wrong way. Ugh. Now I have to go in and fix 100 project sites because of some moron.
it's about 2.30pm local (UTC+11). I went and looked at the Netware and NT boxes at work (Defence)at 9am; hardly a car on the roads. The servers were all just doing fine. Our boxes at home both Linux and Windows were good except for the power going off for 30 secs at midnight which reset everything!
The TV coverage is really good!
"Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups" seen on someone's blog...
<gripe>
Although judging by the leaflet every home in the country got sent, they may be more into the business of reassurance than information. Choice extract from that leaflet (paraphrased from memory): Q. Will nuclear weapons go off because of the Y2K bug? A. Don't worry! All of the UK's nuclear missiles have been tested and found to be safe. Phew.
</gripe>
11.0010010000111111011010101000100010000101101000
It's to do with the second digit of the year changing, not the first. It would only have been a millennium bug if programmers had used the last three digits to represent the year!
11.0010010000111111011010101000100010000101101000
For whatever reason, be it Y2K or whatever... I can't seem to access hotmail.com. I don't know what posessed me to check it in the first place, I haven't checked it in monhts.
Anyone else having problems? I've been trying for about 5 minutes now.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do. --Benjamin Franklin
Well, just got back from the fireworks here in Melbourne (Aust), and guess what -- my '95 box had crashed and rebooted, something it doesn't usually do without my help. Anyone surprised? :o)
We were there, but we weren't America yet. Hell, America was "discovered" in 1542 or 43, but it wasn't really "the americas" until amerrigo vespucci mapped it. Heck, It could have become "Leifland", "Columbia" or even "New Phonecia" depending on artifacts found.
Lowmag.net
Leave the Judeo part out of this. The Gregorian calander is not based on the Jewish calander in any way, shape or form. According to the Jewish calander, it is 5760.
Here at the office -- yes, like many geeks I'm in the office today & tomorrow -- we're discussing with amusement how everything is going fine around the world.
OTOH, we're wondering if some problems couldn't have a time delay, and only crop up several days later? What do others think.
As an aside, I think the media frenzy around Y2K is interesting. When Y2K first surfaced in the media, everyone was discussing how it would cause problems in billing. Nowadays, the media has been predicting everything from nukes going off to terrorist attacks. Sheesh.
-- 'As it all washes away you know -- as it all is one, no one is alone.' -Cosmic Disorder
I have been thinking for the last days, about this Y2K thing. All power, water and whatnot services have been inspected and upgraded. But won't the real problem start when people start using 00 in forms and the computers have to interpret such things.
The computers themselves are pretty accurate in keeping track of time, but they might have a harder time figuring out stupid users. So my fears comes from thing like ordering processes, you know when some wholesalers are unable to fullfill orders becouse they are fulfilling orders for 2000 but the retailers are placing orders to be fullfilled in 1900.
As someone might have guessed I used to work for a retailer(I got out a year ago), a and it kind of scares me how random the EDI systems work, at least here in Iceland.
So I guess the real fun begins when banks open and people start acting like people.
NOTHING HAPPENED
media hype !!!!
using their greedy methods
Elm 2.4 PL25 (November 11, 1995) used by RedHat 5.0, 5.1, 5.2 (the latest elm updates at RedHat site for these OS versions) has this year 100 bug too.
Solution: download,build,install the latest Elm 2.5.2 from ftp://ftp.virginia.edu/pub/elm
It builds on RH 5.x with no problems.
Now-- if this was useful to you, shame on you! Upgrade to RH6.1! (pointing finger at self)
Of course, those who have significant outages and so forth will likely be unable to post, which sort of ensures this will be a chronicle of non-events :)
I looked at the source code for this page, and it looks like it was hardcoded.
CENTER> This site will be live in: -10957 days!
What is this, free advertising by showing that you were not prepared? Like I'd buy software from people who didn't even patch their apps.
As if. How would weather.com KNOW if we've already had our LOW temp for the day? That would be akin to saying we've already had our high temp for the day, which is also impossible. The temperature drops in the evenings, remember?
What's your damage, Heather?
If you look up your local weather on weather.com by using their zip code box on the main page, it says that your low temperature today will be zero. Doesn't matter where you live, your low will be zero. The high is correct, though. Can't say for certain that this is y2k-related, but you know how it goes. Us users are going to see everything with y2k written all over it.
Here's a link for an example.
What's your damage, Heather?
I thought this was interesting.
./datetest2 ./datetest2 line 11.
./datetest2 line 10.
#!/usr/bin/perl
($y,$m,$d) = (localtime)[5,4,3]; #get todays date
$y += 1900; #fix the years
print "$y $m $d\n";
this gives me: 1999 11 31
date gives: Fri Dec 31 12:15:04 EST 1999
Hmm, I could be doing something wrong, but I have
never noticed this problem before.
I noticed the problem with the following:
#!/usr/bin/perl
# evil broken code follows
use Date::Calc qw(Add_Delta_Days);
($y,$m,$d) = (localtime)[5,4,3]; #get today's date
$y += 1900; #fix the years
print "$y $m $d\n";
($y2,$m2,$d2) = Add_Delta_Days($y,$m,$d,-1); #get yesterday's date
$y2 += 1900;
print "$y2 $m2 $d2\n";
# end evil code
This produces:
[wiley@zig wiley]$
1999 11 31
Date::Calc::Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date at
I also tried it without the line
$y += 1900; #fix the years
but that still gives me
99 11 31
Date::Calc::Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date at
I am almost positive that this code worked yesterday.
I fixed the problem script with a different approach, but I thought this was worth pointing out. I will admit that I could be doing something wrong here. Any ideas?
Wiley
as for me, after i party, me and and some friends are waiting out in front of best buy and compusa, unless the action's already started. then it's time for me to get the new cdrw i've wanted.. and half the rest of the store...that i've wanted
It is NOT a bug, but this is only valid for england. Catholic countries switched from julian to gregorian in october 1582 (saint theresa died on the night between 4 and 15 october 1582),and russia only switched after the october revolution, which actually happened in november. anybody has a patch to cal to make it work in france?
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>It wasn't really a "bug". Just an amusement. But >I'm sure it happened here in America, too, since >we were still English then. :-) well there was not much of america in 1752, was there?
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You're about to hear it straight from the horses mouth, folks. Straight from a SysAdmin on the front lines!
;)
;)
Uhm. Problems? What problems? Houston, we have a problem? Wait, no, yes, er, maybe?
Well, save for probably 30-50 pieces of workstations and Axil hardware, everything's passed the preliminary tests.
I can unofficially (IANACSP[1]) say that our network is 100% ready as far as the data side goes.
We officially have 4 hours as of 4 minutes ago till the Trial By Fire, and we have an 'example' system - an Axil 320 - to see what actually happens - it's set to EST so it's one of the first to blow up - also about 5 minutes fast.
From what I have heard from other locations and other companies, everything looks good to go. Some telcos, mostly cellphone companies and LD companies, are afraid of the load. But, all I can say is that it looks like a big NOTHING.
That's right. Y2k is the big NOTHING.
I hope everyone has a safe and happy new year, and remember to check your beer for Y2k compliance before drinking!
[1] I Am Not A Corporate SpokesPerson(tm).
If you would like to quote me, please EMAIL ME FIRST. EMAIL ME HERE first, actually.
=RISCy Business
your company here.
shelby != ford
Ah, yes, but if you have a portable generator, you are probably in the very small minority of those who may not care too much about when the power is restored. Catch 22
Just got on and checked the datacenter in Zurich, seems that there services are up without issues. All of the power and utilities are still functioning.
Damn.. kind of a letdown.
I had this Y2K problem with my Linux box: When I checked to see that my CMOS clock rolled over corectly, hwclock aborted with a message saying mktime(3) failed. If anyone else has the problem, the solution is to get the source to hwclock and compile against an up-to-date version of libc (glibc2.1.2 worked for me).
Currently (7:49 Pacific time, New Years' eve) the National Physical Laboratory in Middlesex shows the current time as the 26th hour of December 31. This is the readout from the atomic clock at Greenwich. We're all doomed! :-)
My organization is searching for highly motivated, individuals with the ability to work well independently and in groups. Strong people and martial arts skills are a must. You must be willing to relocate.
Our organization will have a dominant role in the new era. The empire headquarters will be in Central America, though there are opportunities in ALL locations around the world.
Here's how we'll be celebrating in San Francisco...
http://www.pabulum.com/images/y2k.jpg
Pork is not a verb
Is there also some place to post our Y2K fetch and beg experiences?
LetterRip
...seems to be stuck at 8:50. Don't know if it's y2k or not, but seems likely, hmm? Seeing as the main office is most likely in Ontario -- 3 hours ahead...
:)
Oh well. I'm going to send taunting emails to them.
-d
According to what I've been told, "millenium" is approximately latin. Millennium means a span of thousand years (year=annus in latin). I'll leave the supposed rest of this post for you as homework.
The Y2K Download Page lists "AllClear 2000 Pro v2.7e" as "new", yet it is dated 02-25-99. Possibly a mix-up in an auto-labelling of "new" based I date? Hmmmm...
I wonder if the media will make a huge deal about January 18th, 2038, 22:14:07 EST in the same way they did about Y2K...
well, my electricity, phone and aged PC (P100) still work, but that doesn't mean that my friend's video wouldn't fail. Hardly apocalyptic, but still midly amusing as they rush into the kitchen shouting "the vidoe's failed; the millenium bug's worked!". She probably won't remember that I told her to set it to 1972....
;-)
apologies for typos - that's the real y2k bug at work...
The way I figure it, it's a Slashdot bug. Here's what I think happened with my post:
- The post was moderated up to +5.
- Some other moderator read the post, thought it was overrated, and moderated it as such, bringing it down to +4.
- Another moderator moderated it back up to +5.
- Then, the Overrated moderator later posted a comment in the same thread, which of course undoes the moderation. Here's where my alleged Slashdot bug comes into play: Slashdot undid the moderation and gave back the point without first checking to see if the post was already at +5. Hence, the +6 post.
That's my theory, anyway. Ahh, fuck itWe're going down, in a spiral to the ground
>add_date +1
Jan 1 100
This would have been caught before, but there was no source code readily available, and no one thought to check it.
I got my Y2K bug. That's all I expect to see.
All this Y2K frenzy seems to have given the "It's not really the start of the new millenium, the new millenium doesn't start until 2001" people more of an excuse to raise their anally retentive voices. The fact is, that the calendar is made up, it's wrong (ie. due to a guess made on Jesus' birth the damn thing wasn't even started on the date it purports to be), and whichever way you look at it, it's symbolic, so there's not much point bitching about one year difference is there? If we were to take B.C. seriously, the new milennium would have started in 1997 (or somewhere thereabouts). So all the complaining is rather pointless eh?
"How much truth can advertising buy?" - iNsuRge - AK47
http://www.swissinfo.net/cgi/worldtime/clock.pl?Au ckland,New=Zealand
Current time in Auckland, New Zealand is: Saturday, January 1, 19100 - 00:34:31
I dont think many people anticipated the 19100 problem, heheh.
-- iCEBaLM
Well, here in the EST time zome. we just rolled over. My Linux boxes and I are just fine!
/root]#
/. is still up (wait - you're in a different TZ, guess I'll have to save that for another hour!)
My server:
12:00am up 13 days, 11:22, 4 users, load average: 0.12, 0.12, 0.09
48 processes: 47 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states: 4.0% user, 9.8% system, 4.9% nice, 81.1% idle
Mem: 22628K av, 20588K used, 2040K free, 16108K shrd, 1028K buff
Swap: 68508K av, 3604K used, 64904K free 9104K cached
PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND
26757 root 13 0 1044 1044 840 S 0 7.4 4.6 7:28 top
27592 root 9 0 1044 1044 840 R 0 3.8 4.6 6:42 top
25091 root 0 0 924 924 720 S 0 0.3 4.0 0:34 in.telnetd
26143 root 10 5 1004 1004 860 S N 0 0.1 4.4 0:01 watchaustin.
1 root 0 0 124 64 52 S 0 0.0 0.2 0:08 init
2 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:08 kflushd
3 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:03 kupdate
4 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 kpiod
5 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:08 kswapd
236 bin 0 0 320 300 256 S 0 0.0 1.3 0:00 portmap
288 root 0 0 288 224 184 S 0 0.0 0.9 0:16 syslogd
298 root 0 0 440 164 132 S 0 0.0 0.7 0:01 klogd
313 daemon 0 0 152 112 84 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00 atd
328 root 1 0 184 124 92 S 0 0.0 0.5 0:00 crond
343 root 0 0 140 68 48 S 0 0.0 0.3 0:00 inetd
358 root 0 0 1300 1008 480 S 0 0.0 4.4 0:17 named
380 root 0 0 260 224 188 S 0 0.0 0.9 0:00 rpc.statd
390 root 0 0 80 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00 rpc.rquotad
(etc..)
[root@goats
Glad to see
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"You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding."
just read today's userfriendly: Daily Static
as we all know, K stands for 1024 so Y2K doesn't start until 2048! what a relief. now i can put off fixing those russian missile computers for a few more decades...
Ok I for one am tiring of folks with these snide comments, er excuse me revelations... For one thing by the CE (Common Era) Calender this is indeed the start of the new millenium as there was a year 0 on this respective calender. And secondly you are exhibiting a very revealing characteristic about your personality, we've all heard this before and it can be debated all you want.. but there isn't a point to it, we just want to have some fun. Happy new years, happy new millenium, happy birthday, it doesn't make a difference, just enjoy life.
Happy New Year!!!!! (Forgive me, I'm in Glasgow so might be celebrating an hour or five before most of the other /. punters) Well, my Suse box is fine so I don't care about much else really. Saying that, Solaris, NT and 'doze 98 all seem to be OK. I haven't tried BeOS yet. Most surprisingly of all, my old '286 seems to be y2k compliant!!! The CMOS thinks it's in 1st Jan 1900 (and not 4th Jan 1980, as I had predicted). All the best to you all Lightsout "If you were me then that's who you'd be"
Check this out(date)!
http://www.auckland-airport.co.nz/airport_newsf
Black holes are where God divided by zero.
Check this out:
http://www.thesitefights.com/wepa trol/mil_bug.gif
Black holes are where God divided by zero.
I think the large volume of posts speaks for itself. (I haven't read them all of course, so I know not what all of them actually contain, but they still have power, so that's something). I mean, if there was a total loss of functionality in an entire city and everyone had gone Lord of the Flies, I don't think most people would be sitting here posting to Slashdot.... well, maybe I would, after my refigerator stopped attacking me. :-)
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I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells.
-- Dr. Seuss
The problem with getYear() is that in early implementations of JavaScript it returns a two-digit year for dates between 1900-01-01 and 1999-31-12, while for all other dates it returns a four-digit year. See Netscape's Client-Side JavaScript Reference getYear under "Backward Compatibility". Later implementations always return the year minus 1900, just like Perl does. Netscape's reference says the turnover came with JS v1.2, so Netscape 4.x, IE4 & IE5 should in theory all do it right.
Actually, there's no year 0 in the CE calendar. The year before 1 CE was 1 BCE.
"You can never have too many elephants on your team."
www.eyeonbrisbane.citec.com.au. Notice the date on the pic from the webcame (1/1/9999)...
Your Friendly Neighborhood New Years Curmudgeon,
Warren
You may have just been satirical with that post, but Jesus was born some time around 4-6 B.C. An earlier translation of the bible said the Star of Bethlehem was actually a 'planetary body' and the alignment of Jupiter and some other planet (maybe the moon, I don't remember) not only coincides with the year 4 B.C but they would have appeared in the sky in the direction that the wise man would have traveled to find Jesus' birthplace. Another similar alignment happened in 6 B.C. with the planet Saturn. I don't remember the url, but I think it was in a post in slashdot's xmastime poll.
That's not how its supposed to work? Bugger. Have to RTFM...
Fear: When you see B8 00 4C CD 21 and know what it means
Here in Brisbane, Australia. 1am (UTC+10). Windows 2000 beta 2 survived the rollover (I left the computer on). MacOS9 survived the rollover. I still have power. I still have phone. I still have water. We still have civil order. The cat still works. You get the picture.
All I can think of is the horrendous waste of food and water as our Premier (equivalent of State Governer in the US) went on TV last night and told everyone to fill up bathtubs, buckets and water bottles as well as stockpile food for a fortnight. Now everyone is simply going to tip it down the drain.
We have enough problems in Oz with drought and water shortages without idiot politicians telling us how to waste resources. For those in the USA - EVERYTHING IS GOING TO WORK. DON'T WASTE WATER AND FOOD BY STOCKPILING.
Now at last this idiocy can end. Let's make the best of the new year for all of us.
John Wiltshire
Fear: When you see B8 00 4C CD 21 and know what it means
I know it's a little early for me to be saying anything, considering the "magic" time hasn't passed me by (here in Phoenix, Arizona, USA) - but from what I am seeing here on /. and from CNN, etc - this has me at one time both disappointed and relieved.
I mean, when I first started seriously thinking about this problem, I got pretty worked up over it (depression, etc - went through the whole multiple stage thing). Not anything too serious, I just got my butt to work and started planning.
So now I am here with about a week's worth of supplies (hey, I figured if the crap fell, a week, while not being enough, was probably all I would need), dry food, water, fuel for cooking, two 12V solar panels to power/charge my laptop running Linux (and having set it up to be a coder's mini-station - full complement of C, C++, and Perl development tools), along with walkie-talkies, battery powered radio and TV, flashlights, candles, matches, a couple of crossbows (no reg needed, and bolts are easy to make in a pinch) - and bug-out bags for me and my GF.
I am disappointed by the likelyhood that I will not be using this for it's intended purpose, however, at least I didn't buy anything that couldn't be used as normal food and such later. So it won't go to waste (only the water will - it was tap, sterilized with a few drops of bleach, so it smells bad and tastes worse).
I guess one thing I am happy about is that, providing everything continues to go smoothly, there won't be a backlash against "the programmers" - it would be nice if we were celebrated as national heroes or such, but more than likely, in our 2-second sound bite world, everything will just fade off, and we will kick back in our cubes and offices, continuing to do our work as we always have. Hopefully, this will mean the end of talk of having us all get licensed to be programmers (I consider coding an art and a science - but I feel is should only be an art).
Now, where to put all of this canned food...
Reason is the Path to God - Anon
I have always said one thing about my stockpiling and worrying:
People may laugh at me come the rollover, how I prepared for the worse and hoped for the best - but now, it seems, the best is coming, and my stockpiling may have been for naught.
But the one thing I know, is that if hard times had hit, I would have been prepared. It is never a bad thing to prepare and plan for a possible disaster - especially one where you have a large time frame of warning.
It is better to be prepared, and for nothing to happen, than for something to happen, and not be prepared.
Reason is the Path to God - Anon
There is at least one problem in Melbourne Australia...
Optus Cable and Wireless is down now as far as I can tell and its 1:55am local time. I can't get a connection to or from my mobile phone.
Early in the night it did seem quite busy but now its just a mix between being dead and a noise recording. It even stoped sending out the message saying which tower the phone was reciving
So if your counting on mobile as a backup...forget it.
So my old sparc is just a few years behind.... but what a timezone offset. Well, its not sunos's fault, its that damn copy of elm compiled back in 1996. I am wondering about the old copy of innd which could have a few of these kinds of problems as well. Is it too late to start y2k fixes? If it is, I'll be heading down to the local pub to have a brew to two...
Everyone have a happy 19100!
You know, You'd thnk a 'reputable' science magazine would be more accurate.
www.sciencedaily.com reports: Geomagnetic Storms May Kick Off The New Millennium
Anyhow, as I write this dawn is almost about to break here @ 6:30AM, just let out the livestock and typing while listening to the morning birdsong. Ah, bliss.
Stray thought: I've been watching the BBC Millenium coverage from around the globe and in spite of myself I've been very impressed by the kind of cultural experience that many countries have offered up in their feeds so far. Traditional dancing, awesome theatre, and the like from many countries; nice to see, and nice that the performing arts have done so well out of the hoopla (my fave so far was the Aboriginal stilt dancing).
Second stray thought: part of the Y2K paranoia no doubt relates to the urban lifestyle, which the car has made possible. It's interesting to reflect on how the car has been, socially speaking, a key transforming technology of the 20th century. As someone who doesn't enjoy urban living, computer technology has given me the freedom to live rurally; somehow I doubt that that will be the *social* legacy of the computer age, however. For all of the power - and limitless potential - of computing, the social effects have been fairly limited so far.
Just talking about general Y2K readiness, it was amusing to watch on TV how people living in cities behaved, with stocking up on water, toilet paper and batteries on the 31st. I'm in a rural community where we can get by without technology anyhow - our water supply is rainwater collected from the roof into a 20,000 litre tank and even without electricity all we need is a siphon hose
Anyhow, on general Y2K readiness it's been amusing since I used to work for a company that made the point-of-sale systems for the local oil companies. 20 years ago, most of the staff could deal with not having power at all, manually pumping the stuff using hand cranks. 10 years ago after we had computerised everything, that knowledge of how to operate had basically vanished. It's amazing how quickly people forgot how to operate in a manual world.
Well,
Out with the old and in with the new here in Halifax, NS. Nothing broken (well, nothing that wasn't broken before), no mobs rioting (dammit to hell), and my coffee maker is just fine (oh, and my box passed just fine. Thanks to Mr. Torvalds and the fine linux developers).
Cheers, and have a great new year,
GC
Basically, especially in the US, when ANYthing goes wrong tonight (and something inevitably will), it will be blamed on the rollover, whether or not that is actually the case. Not good.
Mother Nature might not be Y2K compliant, and some storm somewhere could very well knock power off. And in Rochester, the local telephone company has been telling people "Don't pick up your phone at 12:01 to see if it works; you might overload the circuits," which leads me to believe that people might not be Y2K compliant even if machinery is.
"Somebody exploded a letter-bomb today
Just about everything is working fine in Tampa, FL. Water works, phone works, and I crossed over into the New Year chatting on IRC just fine. The IRC server also crossed over jsut fine a hour later. A couple of my friends computer are slightly messed up, one says it's 1984 (hmmm, 1984....interesting.....) and another said his computer got really slow after Y2K. The only real y2k bug I noticed myself was in a CGI script I copied somewhere that counted down the millinnium. It says it's the year 19100 and there is -17101 years until 2000. The full thing can be found here
Also went looking for some of those "bunker" people who got parnoid and ran to the hills for Y2K. Here is one's admission of embarrasment.
My two 386's were hit by Y2K, but the P300 (Win95) with the internet here is still fine.
One of the miscreants seems to think it's 1980. Which is fine with me.
The other one, unfortunately, does not. It has a thing that it did periodically before y2k, which is that the clock chip would lose power, and the date and BIOS settings would reset. (I have accidentally set the year for 2000 before, but I could change it back, so it was 1999.) It did so again upon booting up this morning. (It ran fine through midnight, and I played on it this morning, but now here's the problem.) When I was reminding it of the time and date, as soon as the date hit 2000, the keyboard ceased to respond. I could not tell it what type of hard drive it had, or specify the floppy disk type. Now, the boot sequence ("No boot device available." Some boot sequence.) forces me into the setup, and then will not accept input from the keyboard. Nor does it tick the seconds like it used to, although while the computer is off, the seconds and minutes advance as usual.
Thus, I am stuck with no boot.
Oh, and here's the scary part: I tried to cut clock power, and reset the clock to 1980 (like it does upon losing clock power.) Perhaps I don't know what I'm doing, but I took out the CMOS batteries, turned off the computer, and unplugged it. Then, I let it sit. When I reinserted the batteries and plugged it back in, it still knew that the year was 2000, and it was about 3:00am here. (Didn't manage to check exactly).
Can anyone help out?
This morning a phone call woke me up. It was a telemarketer. I gave her about 5 words before I tolder her "I don't need credit card protection, thank you, bye".
Also, my waffles were burned today. So I think my toaster may not be y2k compliant.
A few horsemen and guys with trumpets showed up at my door asking directions to New York. Man, I hope they're not late for their party.
Jazilla.org - the Java Mozilla
It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
3:03
3:02
3:01
2:00
2:59
2:58
They had this problem in all four US timezones, for the entire countdown. Seems like a REALLY stupid error to overlook.
Not Y2K related of course, but still an interesting 'bug'. .sig: Not a text file ********
-
$ more ~/.sig
********
$ more ~/.sig
********
This year, next year, who cares?
After all, it's only an error of one year in 2000. That's an 0.05% error. Not bad in this day and age!
I must say, I'm pretty impressed with how ahead of the times The Times must have been. E-mail in 1799 indeed!
According to this BBC news article, hackers managed to break into UK rail company Railtrack's website, posting a message that due to Y2K all train services would be suspended. Unfortunately this was spotted and corrected quite quickly.
What I'm really tiring of are these zealous self-righteous "the millennium begins in 2000" people. They're so fanatical about it. Their snide self-important comments are so annoying. For one thing by the Gregorian calender in which we live, 2000 is NOT the start of the milleNNium (most of the 2000-heads can't even spell it), and secondly you are exhibiting a very revealing characteristic about your personality, we've all heard it before, it's in every damn TV commercial, and it can be debated all you want... bu there isn't a point to it, we just want to have some fun, but the Cult of 2000 denies us the right to speak and threatens us with physical violence and social ostracism as they continue to paint their ignorance everywhere you care to look. Be careful not to show these people any shiny objects, they're easily distracted by them.
Check out http://www.swis sinfo.net/cgi/worldtime/clock.pl?Chatham,New=Zeala nd :)
This site sais that:
"Current time in Chatham, New Zealand is:
Saturday, January 1, 19100 - 05:01:44"
19100?
Wow, I wish that could happen with my account in a bank, imagine interest accumulated in 17100 years?
Can't be sure, but I am probably victim of the bug : I've got an horrible headache since I drank a few bottles of French Champagne.
Take care of non-Y2K compliant food&drinks !!!
Actually, I used an old telegraph machine and I punched out the morse code directly to Slashdot's servers. Betcha didn't know Slashdot supported direct telegraph connection.
First, make it work, then make it right, then make it fast, then, make it bloated!
Well, it just turned midnight 10 minutes ago, and the power went out. I'm using NT, and the BSOD took over just as my clock was ringing! I tried to reboot, but that failed too. I have no idea why. I'm writing this by candlelight.
My phone isn't working either - no dial tone. Just dead. I guess all the Y2K stuff wasn't just hype. Oh well, guess I'll hop over to my brokerage account and sell some stock.
First, make it work, then make it right, then make it fast, then, make it bloated!
By that logic we should be just about to enter the second millennium.
--GnrcMan--
The fact that people approximately 2000 years ago decided to start a new count does not seem to me to be particularly important
(sigh) sorry to be pedantic, but the Gregorian calender wasn't invented until ~525A.D.
See this for the real skinny.
And incidentally, hen people refer to the next millennium, they are generally speaking of the third millennium, which, in fact, begins 2001. Sheesh, you're being more pedantic about this than I am. See this article by Douglas Adams to find out what happens to pedants.
--GnrcMan--
we have /usr/sbin/traceroute and the DNS to tip us off when there are large service (connectivity, power) outages around the world, which would cause DNS servers to stop talking to the Internet.
I haven't heard of any such major outages yet. What would be a good URL to use to monitor major network outages?
I'm sure you will agree that the reason for this particular forum was not to a "scientific" survey or an authoritative Y2K problem reporting forum. It was proposed in the idea of "fun".
Now go party yer ass off and quit moaning.
"Classic UFO's
It wasn't really a "bug". Just an amusement. But I'm sure it happened here in America, too, since we were still English then. :-)
ObHackery: perl -pe y/a-z//s
The only important question is this: does the 8th person sit at the end of 2nd table or the start of the 3rd one?
Once you figure that out, everything is clear. I suspect that even hamburger flipsters can handle this one.
The only way you could get a -ii plural in Latin is if there were a -ius singular. For example, from radius you get radii and from genius, genii. The more common situation, that of second declension masculines, is just -us going to -i, as in abacus becoming abaci, or focus becoming foci. (We shan't get into corpus becoming corpora.)
Note also that Latin had more than one meaning for anus. One takes the meaning you're assuming here, and is a second declension masculine. However, another, which had a different meaning, was 4th not 2nd declension, so formed its plural the way status and apparatus did -- by converting the vowel in the -us from a short to a long u, which changed pronunciation but not spelling.
Happy antemillennium. :-)
I work for a tier 1 ISP, and just spoke with a colleague in the Network Operations Center. He said that the rollover had gone flawlessly in Hong Kong and Australia, where we have POPs. This may not be too indicative, however, as the Hong Kong POP has only been used for customer traffic in the last year, and the Australia POP is mostly used for large accounts, which have been Y2K ready for a while now. It does show that nothing unexpected is happening. Lets hope the trend continues!
//Phizzy
"Most European technology just isn't worth our stealing," -- Former CIA chief James Woolsey, referring to Echelon
It wouldn't make much sense to talk about the zeroth century, or the zeroth year of our Lord.
No, it wouldn't. However, when talking about the first year of a new baby's life, people are referring to the time between birth-11 months, not 12-23 months. Wouldn't it also possibly make sense that "the first year of our Lord" could be the year from Jan 00 - Dec 00? Just my $0.02, of course, but thought I would mention it.
The newly restored pegasus is up and running again in Dallas as of midnight(fyi - it is a rotating pegasus, so you may have to refresh to get a good view). All looks good, most everyone is happy...
As for me, my computers are working, so no complaints here.
Happy New Year, y'all...
Ten years ago I wrote a HyperCard stack to countdown to 1990. Tonight, I took the easy way out; I synched the Date & Time control panel and then watched it flip. Ten years from now, I'll just flip open the G10-powered Newton and watch the clock icon...
Happy New Year!
I use Macs for work, Linux for education, and Windows for cardplaying.
The UK is fine, well Bradford W Yorks anyway. I'm not exactly sober just now, so might fall asleep any time soon, check back when I'm awake, mayeb 4th July...
Dirk stood in the Stanley
What better to do on new years than post to slashdot?? Happy new year from Canberra, Australia, where I'm happy to announce that everything is fine and dandy!
Of course, I didnt update my clocks for daylight savings, so the real test is in 10 mins (1am)!
Happy new year, century & millennium
I'm getting disconnected constantly from optusnet, I'm not sure if that's related.. I was happy, I got a call through to Canada on 8th go with Vodafone, and everything seems to be running smoothly
http://www.cnn.com/1999/TECH/computing/12/31/japan .nukes.idg/
So, what's up with the news conference from Chyenne Mountain reporting 3 missle launches? 8'o
Hi,
It is 12:47 AM 1 January 2000 and I just got home from work. Lets see, all utilities are fine. SCO Openserver 5 works fine, Win 95/98/NT 4, All runing fine. And of course, My Mandrake 6.1 box and Redhat 5.2 box are both fine also. I am connected to the internet on my Mandrake 6.1 box and the net right now, so..... HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM RHEIN MAIN U.S. AIR FORCE BASE, FRANKFURT, GERMANY!!!!
"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people in the world?"
Yes, You are correct and I've heard all this before.
No, I don't particularly care.
Dating systems are completely arbitrary. Only because of the Judeo-Christian tradition are we hitting a year with three zeros this time.
The reason for all the "millenium hype" is that most people are too stupid to handle anything other than nice round numbers.
I'll be glad when its over because I'm sick to death of hearing about it.
Time be time, man!!!
Well, obviously they're just trying to get the computer to accept "plague of locusts" and "rain of frogs" as weather conditions.
Or maybe their forecast is exactly right... hmm...
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Win dain a lotica, en vai tu ri silota
Happy 1972! I know it isn't 1972. But! I do not care...
Don't bother me with technicalities...
Don't bother me with the truth...
Don't bother me with this whole counting crap...
I like 1972 I'll stick with it thankyou very much.
When I got up this morning the power save on the monitor wouldn't go off, even after turning the monitor on and off again. We couldn't log in to it remotely. Ping returned nothing.
As a last resort we tried turning it off and on again. The "Please select the operating system to start" screen gives Linux as its only choice. After choosing Linux it says, "The highlighted Operating System Selection is not valid. To modify an Operating System Selection enter Setup option."
We've tried turning the date back on the bios, but that doesn't change anything. My husband suspects the hard drive. I'm not sure if there is a virus that does this. We've been attacked before, but it was the other machine (the one I'm writing this post from) that was compromised.
If anyone has any ideas, I'd sure appreciate them. Normally I'd ask for e-mail, but Frost was our e-mail server and it is the one that is down... I just signed up for a yahoo mail account to take responses. Try mailing beth_leonard@yahoo.com.
I tried calling Microway, but their number just rang until I got the operator's "If you'd like to make a call, please hang up and try again," message.
My Linux box stayed up over the crossover... no surprises there :-) All other essential services seem OK too. My HP200LX palmtop seems to have survived as well.
--Murray Barton
# hwclock
Sat Jan 1 00:00:00 2000 -0.000000
#
Whoo hooo!
Happy New Year!
I have started up a simple page to collect Y2K Bug Screen Shots
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~a-zero/y2kscrewup/
Please contribute, comments welcome!
Null data is a totally different thing than no data... We can start worrying when we *don't* see messages like "Everything's cool here in Fooland."
my karma ran over your dogma
Ceterum censeo Microsoftam esse delendam.
In fact, even later then that! It seems the parking garage is closing at 3pm this afternoon and won't reopen until 6am next century... Why can't I get to my car? Are they afraid of a terrorist attack? I guess I'm glad I got my car in with the bomb in the trunk in before they closed the doors... [JOKE!]
Oh well... At least I get to sit in the big boardroom with my N64, games, wind-up-radio (thnx sis!) waiting for my backups to finish running...
--Space: It's deeper than you think...
I too, am guilty of helping to slow the Dilbert site down...
(nt)
---- I made the Kessel Run in under 11 parsecs.
Everything seems to have passed smoothly in Australia; in the eastern states at least. Power, telephone services, water, etc, still work.
I sincerely hope everyone else around the globe experiences a equally trouble-free rollover at midnight wherever you may be. I wish a very Happy New Year to everyone. See you all 2000!
jesler
Don't be so pedantic next time.
The Gregorian calendar was implemented in 1582 by Pope Greorary XIII, who, by papal decree, ordered 10 days to be dropped from the end of October, to return the vernal equinox to its rightful place around March 20.
Millennium has two n's in it.
Diet Dr. Pepper really does taste more like regular Dr. Pepper.
And so on...
Happy New Year!
A loaf of bread, a jar of peanut butter, 4 cans of Spam (can't eat PB sandwich every time), and a raincoat, all for naught. Maybe I'll just kill the circuit breaker and pretend.
hehe.
I'm in the process of moving to a new apartment (same complex). Roommates threw a party last night in the old apartment, but I'm on the hook for troubleshooting anything that goes wrong for this weekend.
After the festivites, I went to the new apartment to clean up dishes. While I was there, the roommates in the old apartment had just enough energy left to lock the door before passing out.
So now, I'm on call, separated from my pager, computer (with modem), and keys, until someone wakes up. Barf. I'll give them another hour or two, then I'll page myself until they get out of bed. Instead of getting sleep, I found my extra car key and spent the night in the office, watching system diagnostics.
We have just now attempted to actually do something productive with our systems, so I'll find out in a while if something was missed.
Since I don't have cable, I can't vouch for CBS nor :o
NBC, but ABC is also doing an all day/night broadcast.
They've had all sorts of nifty things. Most bizzare being Java.
-- www.bteg.com | bleh.n3.net | hac47.dhs.org
Well, you'll all be relieved to know that Ireland seems ok so far. Well, at least the cyber cafe that I'm stuck in seems to be fine, as are any other Irish sites I've visited.
Of course, I did hear a couple of cop cars zooming by earlier, so maybe there's looting and pillaging going on in the rest of Dublin. But that's probably unrelated to any computer problems. Just another friday night, really...
Oh, just got a phone call from someone who gets into the spirit of these things and was phoning everyone she knows to say happy new year. Apparently there's a lot of calls being rejected on one of our GSM services, but that's probably just due to the volume of calls since she managed to get through in the end.
yup, the est just rolled over not too long ago and the power still works. good for me. i'm pulling double duty at the hotel i work in here in orlando, fl. both as an audio/visual technician (keeping our drunk partier's as informed drunk partier's) and as the hotel mis guy making sure we don't lose all of our accounting records. yea! the joys of being a nerd never end! i don't mean to be a party pooper, but sitting here at work, reading slashdot and watching the computer clock roll over. the only difference i saw was the main slashdot page reload and ask if i had meta-moderated today. yes i had but apparently not. the power works (good thing in my professions) i'm still at work, and there are still drunk people in the ballroom chearing about the new millenium (remind me to take off for the new millenium next year, i don't want to waste it here 8^) . i've decided that celebrating the new year is as pointless as celebrating the litter under the no dumping sign down the road from my house. bah-humbug.
have a day, year, millenia, whatever, everybody (i'm not saying have a good one as i don't want you to feel pressured into it).
retal,
rev. eric maultsby
the traffic lights down the road from my hotel are flashing! sweet linus! its the y2k bug!
oh, wait, they always flash at midnight on small less busy roads... nevermind.
retal,
rev. eric maultsby
Not that I joined into the buying of canned food shared neurosis, but spending the next month reading "news" about how this webpage or that MS product thinks its 1900 makes me wish the power was out.
A 1900 web clock is about as interesting and noteworthy as a page defacement, CNET is gonna have a great month.
Probably a programmer error. Ansi C returns date - 1900. It's up to the programmer to add 1900 to the date. Apparently this guy made a typo and added 19000...
The executive officer of a bank here in Brazil had a great idea: he went to Australia to spend the weekend, all expenses payed by his employer, to "observe the Y2K onset and report back to headquarters". Why didn't I think of it??
I'm definitely going to have to reconsider my pinto!
I've finally found the off by one erro
My system seems to be suffering from the Y2k bug. It's 3:58am and my monitor is all blurry. My keyboard is broken too. The keys seem to be swimming around and trying to escape my fingers.
On the brighter side, my girlfriend is looking even cuter than usual.
-- That which does not kill us has made its last mistake.
Well, I'm assuming we'll see a lot of pissed off survivalists and terrorists soonish.
;-)
On a more useful (but pedantic) topic..
Millennium and "Millenium"
Two Ms, two Ls, two Ns, two Is, an e, and a U is the correct number of letters (if not spelling). So all single Ned "millenium" people can go on spouting about how this is the start of a new "millenium" as we can get the Webster people to add it:
"Millenium (n):
1. A thousandth anniversay of years, on the Gregorian calendar, since the time 1 BC."
This would make it proper to say "01/01/2000 is the start of the third millenium." Of course, I'm still going to have to resist the urge to curse and/or attack the person who says/writes these things
The other millennium has no such definition of a fixed window of time (from dictionary.com ):
"1. A span of one thousand years."
"4. A thousandth anniversary."
So (im)proper spelling will count. I'm not sure how the pronunciation thing will work out, as we'll probably have to muddle through via context.
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Internet Explorer (n): Another bug -- that is, a feature that can't be turned off -- in Windows.
Yup - all systems go. Was too busy having fun to have the laptop turned on but it's fired up OK here (yes, Win95 - byte me :)
Next major point will be some time this morning when we cross 00:00 UTC (airtraffic control, etc).
Check out Australia's government Y2K update site for more info. You'll need to follow the link to the public site - they've password protected the main sections.
I left my body to science, but I'm afraid they've turned it down...
I work at Symantec, and CNN is shivering with anticipation waiting in our antivirus research lab to hear about juicy computer problems. Me and some friends were thinking it would be fun to pull a couple breakers at 4:00 Pacific (GMT midnight) after hyping it up to them to see if we could get them to broadcast live panic.
I think, given the likely reactions of your employers, their customers, the government and the public, you should follow the example of a group of Iraqi soldiers from the beginning of the decade. Surrender to the CNN news crew when you are done. It is your only hope to avoid an early and unpleasant death. And it is a slim hope.
The net will not be what we demand, but what we make it. Build it well.
I turned on CNBC a little while ago. The US markets closed up. In fact, they were reporting that every major index closed at a record high today. Here's a story about it. That is a sure indication that there is very little Y2K panic going on.
The net will not be what we demand, but what we make it. Build it well.
I made this point yesterday when I suggested that we should track Y2K non-events here. It is as valid now as it was then.
The net will not be what we demand, but what we make it. Build it well.
I haven't been able to find a story on this online yet, but CNN (on cable) did a live broadcast from the FAA command center in Herndon, Virginia a couple of minutes ago. They pointed out that all of the air traffic control and aviation systems are on GMT (I suspect they meant UTC, but I'm not sure about that). They reported that there were no planes reporting problems. I guess if we want to see planes falling out of the sky we have to head to a war zone. No thanks, I'll pass on that.
The net will not be what we demand, but what we make it. Build it well.
It seems that as the Y2K line passes that important abilitites such as pouring hot grits down your pants requires full Y2K compliance. John Smith of Lexington, Kentucky reports, "I am a frequent AC at the popular 'geek site' slashdot and as the Date crossed over I found myself unable to pour hot grits down my pants anymore."
John believes its because of a Nural Net upgrade he never received shortly after birth that is to blame for his lack of compliance. We also believe this is the problem that makes him pour hot grits down his pants anyway. "It just goes to show how important achieving 'personal' Y2K complienace is." Said Bruce Dickens, patent holding inventor of one of the most widely used Y2K fixes, windowing. "People asked for these type of problems." He added.
In related news, both the Open Source Natalie Portman and Open Source Drew Barrymore projects seem to have come to a complete standstill. No word yet on wether this is a Y2K caused issue. Both the petrified Natalie Portman and petrified Drew Barrymore projects still seem to be fully operational.
A computer without A Microsoft Operating System is like a dog without bricks tied to it's head.
www.mp3.com/Undocumented
The lights stayed on. The water kept running. The earth remained intact. Dick Clark kissed his wife. And I celebrated in my living room, alone (my brother was in the basement). He reported two minutes after the fateful instant that he had successfully connected with Slashdot. But he knew that his system was Y2K ready. I didn't.
So, about eight minutes after the beginning of the new century, I nervously approached my Windows 98 PC and hit the "Power" button. I had done no BIOS tests and upgraded only a little software. Hell, everyone I knew that knew anything about computers was telling me that Win98 was going to shit the bed come January 1, 2000! My computer went through the Boot Sequence and... stalled. I began to worry. Did this mean my system had died on me? I waited two more seconds... and it continued booting into Windows. I logged onto my home LAN (connected by proxy server to the Internet), checked my e-mail, and visited Slashdot, where I am right now.
Having put away my flashlight, booted my computer, and dashed off an e-mail, I'm sitting here typing this message while enjoying a can of Fresca (sugar free citrus drink, I'm diabetic) and being thankful to God for the past two thousand years.
Happy New Year to all, and God bless!
Only 366 days until the new millennium!
awkwardone
www.tealeaves.org "All you need is love." -
Has anyone noticed that the "Y2K Experiences" posted here necessarily come from people who:
1) Have electricity
2) Have an OS that still works
3) Have a browser that still works, and
4) Have an ISP that still works
With this sort of sampling bias, we really shouldn't be expecting too many "horror" stories... Most will be "yeah, my stuff still works, which is why I can post this..."
:) awaiting "Smartass" moderation...
The Dilbert web site seems to be down, or at least refuse to send any data.
Just a couple of additional points on this thread.
-You might want to reconsider the engine choice: The Hemi is a great engine for power, but a pain to keep running, while the 440 six-pack has almost as much power with the added advantage of being more reliable and easier to find parts for.
-The weapon in question is, I believe, a three barrel version of the GE M61A2 20 m.m. gattling style cannon (a wonderful weapon FWIW). I think that weapon on a articulated mount comes in around 850 lbs, which will require recalculation of the weight bais ratios listed above. Also, the ammo drum for that weapon is the real weight pig (when fully loaded), depending on how much ammo you want to keep on board. You will want to mount the ammo drum centered on the front to back balance point, so your weight bias doesn't change as you expend rounds. I think we all know how unpleasant it can be to be cornering hard at high speed while firing on a target and suddenly have the driving characteristics of the vehicle change on ya. 'Nuff said.
Have a happy new year, see ya on the roads.
The six-pack was staged, no synched. And it wasn't overly complicated (for a Mopar).
Well maybe a little.
But I am glad you could get in the spirit of all of this and see that the carb setup was the one shortcoming in the design.
Feel free to unclench at your conveinence
and I was in Bourke Street Mall (ie the centre of the city) watching a big LED screen count down to the year 2000.
We didn't have a Y2K problem, but when the countdown rolled over, the following message appeared: Happy New Millenium
That is exactly what the screen read... no typos here... just a small Y2K problem!
life is a canvas/and the paint is hope and promise/the world is ours/no one can ever take it from us.
xdaliclock currently reads '35:01', printed backwards...date is listed as '01- ', also backwards...if i start another copy, it works fine... gonna have to go hunt down some source and see if that was intentional :)
looks like it is supposed to completely reverse the time if it is running at 0:00:00 jan 1 2000, but gets the formatting wrong if seconds are turned off...
does that mean jwz gets credit for first joke of 2000?
Sorry, that's a Brit. Americans look for lawyers who work on contingency.
Can't see dick for the smog, already.
Now that's thick smog. I have always been able to see dick, even after I'd put on a few pounds!
And the brethren went away edified.
The power's on.
The phones work.
The ISP's up.
The toaster still gets my toast oh, so perfect.
Happy New Year!
And the brethren went away edified.
And then another person's car lost all their electricals. But that was because their alternator died.
Just to show how caring we are, we pushed their cars off the road. (Thump!)
Considering how similar Australia is to the US in many ways, I think you're all going to be disappointed if you wanted to see things break down.
Of course the real y2k as far as unix machines and much other gear is at UTC midnight, which is not for another 9 hours. If something will happen then, then there will be no warning from the East.
By the way, best of luck to all you Americans who have nuclear missiles targetted on your cities.
And just one last point, there was one little rush on the supermarkets here on the last day -- sales of baked beans doubled.
If we follow your logic and agree to begin a millenium with the year 0, and not the year 1 as it is in use in the Christian Era calendar, then we must also apply this to months and days. And tomorrow, we will be the 0 Jan of the next millenium!
And that's a spot in the espace-time continuum where we certainly don't want to be! But do we really care? We'll be drunk anyway.
Happy new year!
http://readplease.com/
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I have seen this recently as well, from a genius who decided to return the current year by printing the characters 1 and 98 followed by the current year-since-1900 as a string. And they coded this some time in August 1999.
oops. said "I have seen this recently as well, from a genius who decided to return the current year by printing the characters 1 and 98 followed by the current year-since-1900 as a string." meant "I have seen this recently as well, from a genius who decided to return the current year by printing the characters 1 and 9 followed by the current year-since-1900 as a string."
I am sitting here at my desk in Houston and everything is hunky-dory. Only bummer is that my building wasn't high enough to see the fireworks from downtown. We didn't even sit at our desks when the rollover happened. I think that once people saw that the ROW was ok, things became a big yawn.
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James Hromadka
"The objective of securing the safety of Americans from crime and terror has been achieved." -- John Ashcroft
I work at Symantec, and CNN is shivering with anticipation waiting in our antivirus research lab to hear about juicy computer problems. Me and some friends were thinking it would be fun to pull a couple breakers at 4:00 Pacific (GMT midnight) after hyping it up to them to see if we could get them to broadcast live panic.
Tee-hee-hee....
Of course, there's also the question: 'Would my career be worth the infamy of being the last person to streak naked during a live CNN broadcast in the 1900s?' It's a tough call, that'd be an awfully tempting title....
Not at all. A Millennium can mean ANY thousand year period. So from Jan 1 1000, to Jan 1 2000, is a millennium also. We can choose to celebrate the end of any millenium we choose. Personaly I think I'll celibrate the one ending at about noon tommorrow just to mess with people's minds.
Plus we can include all kinds of info about local events that people halfway around the world aren't hearing about on CNN.
Power, water, phone, internet, Win95 (ugh!), GNU/Linux, all working.... Watched the count-down on TV, that was fine... Will post more later.
Right HERE(refresh for a different one each time.) Those who haven't had the New Year hit already can pass them out at work for a good chuckle...
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
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!Run! Or did it just halt there?
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!Run! BWWWHAHAHAH!!! A BUG!
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!Run! *** auckland.nz.undernet.org 946638290 255 : Saturday January 1 2000 -- 00:00 -35:00(from auckland.nz.undernet.org)
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!Run! ROFL!!! Note the -35:00
Call on God, but row AWAY from the rocks!
Wow! A bunch of starving hordes just came stampeding up my mountains side demanding that I share all my hoarded dog food - begging me to teach them how to reboot a 386. Good thing a stray nuke took them all out. Aren't all those cynics that laughed at me looking terrified now. Ha! My day has come!! Year 2000 and still no cure for moronism
well the year 2000 just hit here in korea, and i must say i have a different story than all the 'everything is the same' stories from the kiwis and aussies.
see, it's the year 2000 now, and as we all know, 2000 is the future. for one thing, the silly boxes you call 'cars' have all been replaced by bubble cars from the jetsons. we all have robot maids, the wallpaper is metallic, and my wardrobe is now sharp and plasticy. we live in a utopian society under the care and guidance of the big brother, and there's no disease, hunger, or crime. because it's the future, you see; no need for bad things here. in fact, our genes have been altered to weed out such impure thoughts.
anyway, i have to go to a 4d holographic cybertechnotrendybuzzword videotelephonographic conference now. just remember, the y2k rollover wasn't that bad. unless of course you start hearing the trumpets of gabriel, then you're going to hell.
-- the opinions stated above aren't those of my employer. in fact, they're probably not even my own. you know what, ju
Well in San Antonio, TX there are still LOTS of fireworks going off at peoples houses (they have real fireworks not the "safe" ones I know from WA). Water, power, and phones are working. My ISP Flash.net is rejecting my password but I have a backup. The funniest thing though is that the local ABC afiliate KSAT had a Y2K bug in their "Spiffy Graphic" (tm) for the new year. I was supposed to read "1999" and then fade to "2000" but someone was smoking crack so it reads "2099" and fades into "2000"!!!! ROFL the really funny thing is that I don't think they caught it because they kept on using it. Oh Well Happy New Year Y'all! Enjoy 0000011111010000
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i'm at work and lovin' it
...has lost all 5-day forecast data...
We're still waiting for California to rollover to see if the power grid will be affected. If it is, we'll jus
However, out of the wood(works) bugeyed survivalists are creeping back towrds continued civilization, asking: "What the f*ck am I going to do with a two year supply of preserved foods, eh? Who's gonna pay for that? I left my job, divorced my wife, thinking there's be enough young chicks free after the men started to kill off eachother after the disaster, put all my money into stuff I thought I could barter with, but what do I do now? No job, no wife, no g*dd*m money! I'm gonna sue all those doom-prophets penniless, you mark my words. Now I only need to find a no-cure-no-pay lawyer and I'm rolling. I may be penniless, but I'm not stoopid!", said one true blooded American as he came out of his survival bunker after midnight. It's heart-warming to see how the American spirit cannot be beaten through even the most abhorrent setbacks.
An another front, companies are starting to ask why they spent so many millions in what has started to be classified as the greatest hoax of the century, already. "We spent all that, for nothing? We want our money back, and we know who took it.", said one spokesman for a large, Redmond-based company.
It's going to be a busy and profitful years for lawyers.
Seriously, nothing much happening over here, apart from me getting sloshed, having succesfully tested the basics. Sipping champagne, now, putting up another CD on my linux box, as soon as the fireworks tone down, can't hear myself thinking for that: over here in the Netherlands, it's legal to fire fireworks for on hour each year: the first hour of the new year. Can't see dick for the smog, already.
God bless you, everyone. (tm) Dickens.
Stefan.
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Ah, good, seeing the police going by just now, to keep an eye out for things going wrong. Happy new dear!
The truth shall make you fret. (Ankh-Morpork tImes motto)
Water, gas, phones lasted fine. Except the expected overload on the mobile network. And a mate's place on a farm in the country lost power and land-line phones. We're on daylight savings here, so the big moment for power was 1am. 5 minutes ago. And it's all still fine. Except I have a headache.
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I rather like cows.
Ok, so everyone and their brother thinks that today is the end of the millenium. and that tomorrow is the dawn of the next. but it not, the entire year 2000 is the end of the millenium and the next does not begin until 2001 and if we want to get really technical it began in 1997 because our calendars are off by 4 years! where did our societies brains go to?
Computers save man alot of guesswork, but so does the bikini
Think about this, 1st Century is 1-100.. 20th Century is 1901-2000.. same logic: 1st millenium is 1-1000.. 3rd millenium is 2001-3000.. so Y2k != new millenium. We shouldn't call it new millenium yet.. but we should still celebrate. and.. 80s is from 80-89. it's nothing to be with anything I wrote before..
the century is over, hence the millennium is de facto over as well. After all, they just announced Albert Einstein as the "person of the century".
If anyone wants me, I'll be in my Y2K compliant bunker.
--
Chris Long, Departments of Mathematics & Statistics, Rutgers University
San Diego Padres, 100 Park Blvd, San Diego CA 92101
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by
Its karma, Kramer.
1. My boss was told he should worry about our computers getting damaged by a Y2K-related power failure. So he unplugged them. If they should happen to have trashed filesystems or something, would this count as a Y2K bug?
2. In the same way that politicians start lining up for the next election right after the last one ends, I think it's never too soon to start planting the seeds for the next Y2K-style bug. I'm sure there are lots of gems out there, but it would be worth thinking up something really artful to impress future generations and ensure a nice retirement package. I nominate the Y2K bug (not to be confused with the Y2k bug), although I'm sure others will have better ideas.
3. My bank claims everything will work fine in the new year. Where were they last year? More seriously, has anyone yet written about an effect I will call the Y2K-backlash, the effect of Y2K-necessitated code cleanup causing broken things to start working?
dan
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/
Enjoy!
I think the biggest Y2K problem will be quick changes that are not thought through.
As for all of you who stockpiled provisions of food, water and clothing for the encroaching end of civilization, thus far (most, not all) looks well. But the true test will be on Monday when everyone goes back to work, and the world's markets re-open.
If riots, looting and general chaos do not ensue then please consider donating your stockpiles to your local Red Cross or charity agency, for there are many needy people who could use it.
Lets make this new Millennia a time to consider to improve the world, and perhaps one day the homeless and, starving and needy will not exist.
Warren Togami
warren@togami.com
Yesterday, I thought I would proactively test my systems' Y2K compatibility. I set the date on all 4 machines to 2350, 31 Dec 1999, and waited to see what the results would be. At precisely midnight (machine time) all 4 systems crashed with an MS(tm) BSOD (even though they are all running *nix variants), the power went out, my roommates and the neighbors started rioting and looting my refrigerator, my car exploded, my wardrobe turned instantly fashionable, and an eddy in the space time continuum opened up in my living room and swallowed my couch. I am now living in an alternate reality that you will all shortly be joining. OTOH, slashdot seems to work OK.
XML causes global warming.
I don't know if it's just plain silly or oddly appropriate that I'm ushering in the new year/decade/century/millennium on the Internet (something which will likely have a profound influence on our future).
A lot of people will be feeling very silly tomorrow morning. Happy New Year everyone!
He who laughs last thinks slowest.
We just hit Y2K an hour and a half ago here in Maryland (Bowie, to be exact) and everything seems to be fine and dandy. I am at a LAN party and (runnin Win98SE and Win2K) nothin is wrong yet ;o)
:(
No riots, no murders, no Jesus, no fun!
heheheheh...
yeah
Well, most people didn't start counting with zero but in every program I've ever written all my arrays seem to start with zero. So I guess a large portion of the computer crowd starts counting with zero, and it is after all the first non-negative integer. I say in light of these facts we should let the countless masses start counting like computer programmers. :)
If not now, when?
Ran WinNT all weekend. Today (Jan 3 2000) I came off screen-saver, looked at my Outlook 98 and Excel programs. Both looked OK. I attempted to re-boot the machine, and it was very slow about quitting Outlook, a bad sign, but it did release.
After the reboot, Outlook failed to load. SHLWAPI.DLL was not found when LOADWC.EXE tried to load it. IE5 could not find SHLWAPI.DLL either. IE5 would not reload.
We had to re-ghost the OS....
"Many have chosen to follow. They aren't the ones I'm worried about."
We have power and telcomms up at Cairns, Australia. Not sure about water (rainwater where I am ATM), but I'd say it's fine. The power did flicker a couple of hours ago, but it's been fine since. My Win98 box on a ZM6 motherboard rolled over fine. Apparently New Zealand is fine too, except for the phone system overloading =). Hey uh, not sure if it's been posted already; but incase not: the hostages from the hijacking have been released unharmed! Great news there. Ok, that's it....
s8n@planetquake.com / ICQ: 5089166 Riding the Rocket - Quake 2 Trickjump Competitions - http://www.planetquake.com/rtr/
Woohoo, happy new year. I'm in Sydney at the moment and no the world has not come to an end, to many people's disapointment. The only prob we have had is mobile phone services being flooded with people trying to ring other people to wish them a happy new year. Well time to continue partying.
If there was a major problem with an OS, ISP, power company or whatever it would have been broadcasted by someone (telephone, radio, morse and long distance flag signals) So any problems could be posted.
There is always a few minutes of mobile phone problems at new years because everyone triesd to call everyone else, it happens every year.
Unimog.
You just nailed it, highlighting (inadvertently?) the contradiction inherent in the two numbering systems (the older being origin-1-based, the newer origin-0-based).
Specifically, while you're right that people (mostly) "get" that the 20th century consists mostly of years labeled 19xx...
Personally, I prefer origin-0-based numbering, and don't really mind when people refer to a decade as ending in an xxx9-numbered year, as long as they don't call it, say, the 199th Decade.
The problem with this comes when the same people then want to talk about decades v. centuries v. millenia. It makes sense that the year the ends a given millenium also ends a given century and a given decade. But if you've been saying decades end in xxx9 all along, you're in trouble when the official (Western) millennium ends in xxx0 (ditto for the end of the century).
I wonder if this is the problem The Weather Channel has run into, for example? They're running "storm of the century" shows, like most everyone else, but you'd think they'd honor the Naval Observatory more than hewing to common perceptions (well, maybe not), but if they've been treating decades as ending in xxx9, well, there's no really good solution. (I'd prefer they do end-of-decade shows now, end-of-century/millennium shows next year, but that is a bit strained.)
Oh well. At any given moment, we're caught up in three millenial events: living in one millenium, ending another, and starting yet another. Live In The Now. Drink In The Light. Double-Click God's Button. ;-)
Practice random senselessness and act kind of beautiful.
(Yes, I was actually listening to her, not just watching her lips move. Maybe that's because she was wearing a bit too much makeup today, so looking less than totally supremely gorgeous. ;-)
So, to those of you who, despite well-knowing that the official (according to e.g. the US Naval Observatory) start of the third millennium is 2001-01-01, not 2000-01-01, argue that we should just "accept" what the mass media (and ignorant masses) tell us what they think is the beginning of "the" Millennium, get ready to be made complete fools out of your chosen leaders, who'll happily spend much of 2000 claiming that, no, really, 1999 wasn't the last year of the century/millennium, 2000 is, so everybody pay attention as we run all these new shows about the end of the millennium again.
Yes, it's an arbitrary date. Yes, it was the result of a (probably) failed attempt to base the origin date (0001-01-01) on the birth of Jesus. Yes, really, people shouldn't get so excited about mere number-based events.
But, the one thing that should have been true about "the" Millennium we all get to transition into is that it happens only once in a lifetime. Now it'll happen at least twice, three times if you account for at least one "real" birth of Jesus. (Hardly important, since we've accepted the distinction between 01-01 and 12-25 for decades, at least, but there are those who believe the most important millennial numbering begins with the actual birth of Jesus. They probably care little for our artificial date numbering, or 12-25, anyway.)
Personally, I don't care about such events. I don't really care about things like birthdays or such, except to the extent others wish to celebrate them. I'll go to some First Night (Boston) shows because I want to go to the shows, not because I want to "celebrate" New Year's per se. (A friend is part of a precision-skating group to skate on Frog Pond, for example.)
Yes, perhaps the best thing to do to people who insist of having a single Millennium transition to celebrate is to add to the confusion by first saying "yes, go ahead, believe it's 2000-01-01" and then saying "hey, y'know, it's really 2001-01-01", but those of us who actually care about preserving some semblance of a useful international language, it would have been nice to have fewer supposedly informed, intelligent people advocating the complete elimination of the one aspect of the concept "ring in the Millennium" that everyone could have agreed upon: that it happens only once every thousand years.
And, to Linda Stouffer and others in the media who say "but who's counting, right?": you are, you have been, and you've been representing yourselves as doing it for us so you can convince us to spend tons of hours watching all your end-of-the-second-Millennium shows. And now you want to pull an Emily Litella and say "Never mind!", as if you didn't know all along??
Bah.
Practice random senselessness and act kind of beautiful.
So how many "my computer melted down, the power has failed, there's rioting in the streets, and my family and I are fleeing the city -- but I took the time to write up this article for slashdot 'cause I believe that Geeks Have A Right To Know" posts do you expect to have submitted?
--
I moderate at +3, Highest Scores, and I always mod down.
If you don't like it, vote me off the island.
We can choose any set of disjoint millenniums whose union covers all time we want to use for our millennium celebrations. All such choices are equally valid. Thus, the question boils down to what set should we choose and bestow the label of the millennium upon.
The fact that people approximately 2000 years ago decided to start a new count does not seem to me to be particularly important, especially since they had no clear idea of when the event they were trying to sync to (birth of Jesus) actually took place, and so definitely missed by at least a few years.
We might as well do our millennia so they end in x999 years.
or at least Mora.
Mikael Jacobson
Greylisting is to SMTP as NAT is to IPv4
Shit!
I just blew coffee all over my keyboard.
cheers,
Plenty of Perl programmers abused the language's ability to treat integers and strings as the same and just did $year = '19' . $year. Wrong! Correct fix is $year += 1900.
Even the mighty Lincoln Stein, author of the venerable CGI.pm, was susceptible. Old versions of CGI.pm simply used the raw year (i.e., 100 on 1/1/2000) in setting a cookie expire time. But Lincoln, bless him, caught the error way in advance of Y2K and corrected it a couple of releases ago. He employed the correct fix: $year += 1900.
People, stop name-calling and insulting. It's a common misconception. It's all explained at http://www.millennium321.com/. You don't start counting with zero, you start counting with one. ~Peace
My FreeBSD still says 2345, no doubt it will say 0000 010100. Happy Happy -d
Its 2:27am in Hong Kong 1/1/2000.
No problems here at all. Both my computers (one Windows 2000 and one Windows 98) are running fine with no problems as well.
Everything here is working just as before.
---
Year 2000 is NOT the end of the Millennium, Century nor even Decade. We'll have to wait one more year for that.
{silly}
It's terrible here. Get out while you can. IF anyone in South Dakota is reading this, I commend you for your bravery and fortitude, because there's so much catastrophe. It's terrible. Terrible.
The sun went out entirely and it began to snow violently out here. Then the power went out. I'm posting to Slashdot by candlelight right now, with a magnet to edit the inodes and force the signal through the phone lines.
Also, all the food somehow disintegrated. I guess it wasn't y2k compliant. People are killing each other out here for, as Stef from UF said, the calories in the ink of a ballpoint pen. I nearly got a bite taken out of me myself, but I fended them off with AOL CD's.
Not sure how much longer I can keep up this message. It's so cold. Gget ouT while you ccan. 01001000ear me? oh, no, my mmagn01000101t isn't y2k compliant...
*zzzt*
{/silly}
Angry IT woman in big clompy boots. And talking lint!.
It's 8am Dec 31st here in California. I'm reading the early reports for NZ and AU. I'm sipping my first cup of coffee, and I look up at my good 'ol Oregon Scientific auto-set WWVB sync'd clock, and it thinks it's 10am. The minutes and seconds are perfectly sync'd, I've double checked it against WWV on my shortwave. It's almost like it thinks it's in the central US time zone. This is the clock they've been selling at Fry's Electronics for the last several months.
If you have a WWVB reference clock feeding your NTP server, keep an eye on it.
Temkin
well new years went fine here. linux booted, win98 booted, and they all said the right date/year. what did happen was some of the mobile phone networks wern't able to make outgoing calls for a few minuets, but all is fine now.(maybe it was just an overload of the phone network ?, and not Year 2000 bug. but anyway happy new years!!!! have fun.
Sig 404
While out at a club last night, a man sharing a table with my girlfriend had a terrified look on his face when he asked us if we had heard about the all the problems with credit cards in New England. Both my girlfriend and I busted out laughing, and the man was a bit embarrassed when he learned the the problem was with a few thousand credit cards in England, not New England. And then there is the Y2K version of "A Country Boy Can Survive", which reminds me of a post I saw somewhere, I think ZDNET, titled "Darwin". Some survivalist was encouraging people to horde food, guns and gas. Personally, I haven't bought any bottled water, but did stock up on beer. A person can't be too careful, can he/her? As far as the debate over when the new millenium actually starts? All it really means is we get to celebrate it twice. We can be sure that it will be hyped just as much when 2001 rolls around. Is there a point to this post? Probably not. Happy New Year everyone.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
Sheesh! What a bunch of nit pickers!
Calling the year 2000 the 'New Millennium' is 99.9% accurate, after all.
--
Scott
You are so stupid... I don't care if you live eleven and a half hours away from me... It is not yet Y2K in UTC so go shove you're head up your a***e where it belongs!
Here, the centre of Edinburgh was filled with one-and-a-half million people, and silly old me didn't get a ticket on time... grrrrr....
So, I celebrated at home with the family. My 6x86 and old 486DX2 rolled over correctly... But I forgot to check the old 286... When I switched it on it said something like July 1998, but I realised a few moments later that that was the RTC battery failing (the box is about 10 years old). When I set the date manually to yesterday it rolled over perfectly... Another advantage of my 286 (maybe the only one) is that it can "low-level " format floppy disks. Quite useful for when some rubbish M$ product has defined fake bad sectors...
The Government here has been careful to plpay down fears of the "Y2K bug"... They have even said on the news that there were no incidents, though there must have been some, surely?
It's interesting what Frank said about the "19100" bug in Perl... I can't believe some people are so stupid as to concatenate 19 + tm->tm_year... I always do this [currdate.pl]:d st) = localtime(time); print "$myday{$wday}, $mday $mymonth{$mon}, ", $year+1900, " \@ "; printf ("%2.2d", $hour); print ":"; printf ("%2.2d", $min); print ":"; printf ("%2.2d", $sec); print " $ENV{'TZ'}";
$myday{0}="Sunday"; $myday{1}="Monday"; $myday{2}="Tuesday"; $myday{3}="Wednesday"; $myday{4}="Thursday"; $myday{5}="Friday"; $myday{6}="Saturday"; $mymonth{0}="January"; $mymonth{1}="February"; $mymonth{2}="March"; $mymonth{3}="April"; $mymonth{4}="May"; $mymonth{5}="June"; $mymonth{6}="July"; $mymonth{7}="August"; $mymonth{8}="September"; $mymonth{9}="October"; $mymonth{10}="November"; $mymonth{11}="December"; ($sec,$min,$hour,$mday,$mon,$year,$wday,$yday,$is
How boring. No lights going off or chaos breaking out. It's better this way, but it does seem like a very big anti-climax after all the hype. However, we'll have to wait till Europe and the America's rollover before we can say that everything's OK. If bombs start going off over the US or if some religious fanatic firebombs the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, then we're in big trouble.
America's official timekeeper says 2000 is *not* the beginning of a new Millenium.
This information will be updated from the afternoon on 31st DecemberEr it's 15:00 uk time - is that afternoon enough yet?
.oO0Oo.
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
ùíù spirit.nsw.au.ircd.net Saturday January 1 2000 -- 01:24 -37:00(from spirit.nsw.au.ircd.net) There is a *real* problem with IRCD :>
This one received a lot of laughs at work this morning. Keep it coming!
A good way to start my day.
Anyone else seen any "Comical" Y2K readiness posts
like this one?
Here's an e-mail that I got that details out the reason why, for anyone who doesn't know, (or can't count):
This is my
--An Oldie, but a Goodie!
anyone see the c-span news briefing (app 5:30est)with an army official making statements about 3 y2k related missile launchings in russia? he proceeded to state that they were not considered "reportable" under criteria set forth in advance, and are not a concern because they traveled no further than 300km from their base. i've tried to find further info on this but have'nt suceeded yet.
Well, I saw a segment on Cartoon Network where the 'Y2K Bug' was going to attack the ship that Godzilla's friends were having a party on -- after they say "oh no! the Y2K bug!" he stops making angry bug noises for a moment to say, "Actually I prefer Millennium Bug..."
Then they try to summon Godzilla to deal with it, but there was a problem with the controller...
tCC
"Well, well, well. Less than twenty-four hours 'til Ragnarok and I haven't a stitch to wear."
Billions of people around the globe are thinking this very thought. Don't be part of the mass of cannon fodder awaiting their fate on January 1st. I'd like to help others survive and prosper after the Y2K "situation" by describing the preparations I've made over the past year for tonight's Big Event.
1. The Car
Nothing says "I'm a survivor!" like a cool set of wheels, which is why I have a 1971 Plymouth HemiCuda with a 426ci/425hp V8.
I took out the rear window and rear seats, and welded in two 55-gallon drums as reserve fuel tanks.
I filled the trunk with cement so I could ram other vehicles in reverse during "Road Warrior"-type scenarios.
Due to the weight of the cement in the trunk, I had to replace the rear shocks with solid steel bars, so the suspension is pretty stiff, but boy does it have some range!
I've mounted a 20mm cannon (originally from a AH-1 Cobra helicopter) - that I bought on eBay for $35K - to the roof of the car so it faces forward.
It fires when the left turn signal is activated.
I use a Xybernaut wearable PC for aiming, and I adapted the anti-wobble feature of my camcorder to stabilize the cannon during vehicle movement and firing.
There is a radiacmeter attached to the grill, so I'll know when I'm approaching former urban areas.
I didn't have time to cut a hole in the hood to accommodate the huge intake of the supercharger attached to the engine, so I just left the hood off.
The exhaust system has been removed as a vestigial performance-hindering remnant of a civilized era.
2. The Duds
I have a fire-resistant Nomex jumpsuit dyed to match desert terrain, as all terrain will soon be desert terrain.
For formal occasions, black leather chaps are acceptable, but the buttless kind will make you the laughing-stock of Bartertown.
Accessorize with low-slung pistol holster, gas mask, and black leather jackboots.
Bandoleers are in this year, but only for survivors with crew-served weapons.
Fine-grain leather driving gloves will assist you in controlling your vehicle when driving through fallout-blighted areas.
3. Food
Pound-for-pound, dry dog food has ten times the nutritional value of boiled potatoes, and it can be stored longer, too!
Dog food for older dogs is often packed with fillers that you just don't need, but Puppy Chow is geared towards growing dogs, and has more than enough nutrition.
I'm towing a U-Haul trailer full of it, with a few cases of surplus MREs from the Gulf War for special occasions.
I hope I've provided some insight into the preparations necessary for surviving the coming hard times.
I am interested in having a traveling companion to help with driving.
Any fertile females interested in repopulating the planet should contact me at TheSurvivor@militia.mt.us
Ahhh, but if this is the case it wouldnt have been reporting something similar to the following before y2k:
[t/v] [client.oz.org] 946644450 0 friday december 31 1999 -- 23:47 +11:00
More likely they have just tacked the number of years since 1900 onto the end of the "19". It still seems to be reporting the number of seconds since epoch fine tho, obviously just a formatting error somewhere in the code, I dont see it bringing down the power grid =>. Then again the world does revolve around irc right? =>.
one interesting thing after a
[t/v] [client.oz.org] 946646223 0 saturday january 1 19100 -- 00:17 -37:00
whoops!
We are 3hrs behind Sydney here and we're about to cross over the to Y2K
My server Adama has been down for three days due to a bung network card
But my work station Apollo is what I am using for to write this letter is going to hopefully stay up and connected to my ISP over the change over
BTW this machine is Running Mandrake 6.1 and it rocks!!
Video record date showing 01.01.00, but it still works. TV stations and electricity OK.
Happy New Year Everyone @ /. from Jasa
-Jasa -- Linux - The SOURCE will be with you, ALWAYS
Not an actual Y2K bug, but 2 of the Mobile Phone networks down here have been unusable since 11:30pm due to massive congestion by well wishers! An alternative Y2K rollover bug?
During yesterday (the 31st) there were also a lot of bank outages, but nothing that really inconvenienced anyone I know.
We are now starting century number 20, which is the 21st century, because the first century was century number zero. Anyway, what's the importance of all this? Even by the canonical interpretation Jesus was born before Christ, on December 25, 1 BC, to be exact. January 1, 1 AD was the date when he was circumsized.
I think I badly misjudged the situation, maybe the gas station still has some cold beer... I never thought Y2K would be as bad as this!
Well, I wish I was there, I'm looking for a 20 Gb drive and a firewire camcorder...
Happy Armageddon and Merry Looting to all!
The reason Pope Gregory started his calendar was just to have a bureaucratic reason to burn Lutherans at the stake. The catholic church should be treated with as much respect as the late Josif Djugashvili a.k.a. Stalin. Now, in 2000/1/1, we are starting the 21st century, century number 20 (since the first century was century number zero) and the third millennium, millennium number two.
...that was ethanol powered. With my bathtub still, I would be able to this car long after your diesel or gasoline/petrol powered cars stopped...
OH MY GOD
Everything is burning, my servers are all crashed and there are thousands of the undead on my door step. The HORROR the HORROR of it all. Please God save me from this world. There is massive amounts of radation leaking in though the vents, and the smell of Death is all around me. Most of my fellow brothers are dead, and those still living are praying and begging for the sweet grip of death to choke out their last breaths. Please death save me from this. Pleaes death, take it all away. The End is Here
Oh, wait. Dam, sorry false alarm. I forgot I am in Central time zone and it is only 8:02AM on Dec 31/99 still. Sorry my bad. I still got 15-16 hours left.
I will keep your posted.
"`Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.'" -THHGTTG
The automation worked perfectly but management insisted that everything was done manually, even though all the tests came out ok.
We're drinking chamapagne now and getting pissed :)
Australian? Join EFA
The only Y2K problem I'm hoping to see is them setting fire to the House of Commons when they have their River of Fire on the Thames; maybe even starting The Second Great Fire of London.
Now that would make a memorable new year.
Yeah, I had a sig once; I got bored of it.
Well, y2k is here and my network is doing thusly:-
All in all a pretty boring night, they didn't even manage to set lite to London or the Houses of Parliment - oh well.
Yeah, I had a sig once; I got bored of it.
I am very drunk :)... But my AIX box is still running... so it my Linux box and Solaris box...
That was pretty funny ;)
- Rei
When was the last time you ran anywhere? I mean with your own legs, not by pressing 'X'?
...and the BIOS on my old MICRON machine rolled over just fine. Whoops -- it wasn't supposed to. The NSTL Y2K test program said I'd have to crank it over by hand, and so did the MICRON homepage. Guess it was the DOS date program that had the bug, not the BIOS at all.
Ah, 20 min till midnight, with RH6.1 in hand, just waiting for this NT machine to pull any funny stuff.
chris@xanadu:~$ whatis /.
/.: nothing appropriate.
Hmm, I just noticed that the this artile number was 'article.pl?sid=99/12/31/0757254'.
Slashdot, are you going to take a hit in less than a couple hours, with a Y2K (perl related) issue of your own, or are we just going to see artiles labled 100/01/01/...?
Shane
Y2K (aka Apocralypse)has passed here in Sydney with not a whisper of distress that I have been able to find. Water still works... And so does my toaster. No evil Y2K viruses or hackers have destroyed things either.
Hope the trend continues around the globe.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/12/31/075725 4&mode=thread&threshold=-1
I work in a manufacturing environment and all of our level-2 systems run Compaq/Digital OpenVMS. Last night just one out of 7 of our systems (in my area of the plant) crashed at midnight on the transition between 12/30 and 12/31. Perhaps the OS uses the date of the next day when it rolls over? Who knows...the system came right back up.
well here's the deal.. i'm a web designer
here in boston who just recently purchased
a digital camera. i've already been taking
pictures since early this morning, and wanted
to publish some visual and commentary of the
second techiest city for our pals here at
slashdot to see...but my website,
graphicsdesign.org, is still down due to the cihost issue.
if anyone has a meg or two of web space and
would be interested in seeing something like
this on the web, i'd be happy to post to
you as i go along.
else, i will try and get one of those
yucky free accounts at geocities or someplace
and post a followup when i've completed
the project, though i thought it would
be interesting for people to see it in
increments.
thanks in advance;
adam
www.graphicsdesign.org
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Hello, It is already 15 minutes passed the year 2000 in Hong Kong. Power, water, our Linux servers, the Win9x boxes are all ok. No problem found so far.
You know, who really cares. The fact that we are changing from a 1 to a 2, and a 19 to a 20 is pretty significant given the fact that most readers here have only seen things change from a 70 to an 80 or an 80 to a 90. This argument is never going to be solved so why don't you all stop bitching and moaning about it because I seriously doubt that you will be able to convince the world that they need to wait until 2001 for the "Big Party." 19xx changing to 20xx and 1xxx changing to 2xxx is significant enough for me. ...d
------------------ D. A. Davenport: http://www.firebin.net
I partyed the night away and counted down the seconds and to my dispaointment nothing happened. We still have about ten hours before grenice mean time so we'll see what happens. I did, however, get a reciept from an atm to make sure my bank did't tyr to rip me off. I'll still take my part in the big US Y2K Hack that is sure to happen tonite .. or is that this morning .. i am so confused .. or is that drunk from cheap scotch ....
From the alliance of drunken hackerjs (Who can't spell)
While spending the Y2k celebarations in a local country pub .. celebrating the start of the "populatr milenium".... our dj happened to make several obvious mistakes ... US take note this could be prior warning for your Y2K problems ... PARTY HARD .... and dont pay attention to the DJ's after y2k the power should stay ... and remember to get a reciept from you r local ATM to make sure your bank does not rip you off .... Fromm your first on the block Y2K'ers .. Happy New Years ....!!!!!(not millenium read 2001 a space odesey and youll understand ...) From the australain aliiance of "Real" Drinkin Hicjkers(who can'r spell)!!!
i live in santa cruz ca. im waiting for all the fuckin crazy people to loot stores and try and kill everyone. on of my friends works for the fire department and his job this new years eve, is to sit up top a building, and hose people if they start getting to pipey. the cops have tear gas, its kinda scary, 50,000 people are gonna be in a 1/2 mile strech of road called "pacific ave." downtown outside mall type thing. another scary note, a few military and army bases are missing large quantitys of explosives, like c4 and dinamite. =x i hope we all even live past this new years, God bless you all and try to be safe. -matt
Privacy? Not in this lifetime.
A millenium is a thousand years. There were millenia before the last two, the years from 22 AD to 1022 AD were a millenium, so were the years from 4750 to 5750 on the Jewish calendar... The point is, the 1900s end tonight and the 2000s begin. Grief, what an awkward-sounding phrase, the twenty-hundreds... the nineties also end tonight, and we start what, the naughties?
-- Double parked in a parallel universe
My Webster's dictionary (made of 100% y2k compliant paper) gives millennia as the plural (admittedly, I did misspell it!), with millenniums listed as an acceptable alternative, and defines it as a period of 1000 years.
-- Double parked in a parallel universe
Looks like it wasn't a bug at iSold.com but their way of poking fun at Y2K worry warts. They updated their site today with a note "Our tribute to the Y2K bug." It turns out they're running PHP. Damn! Looks like the world is still in one piece. I guess I have to go to work on Monday.
I've been waiting for iSold.com to go live for months now. These morons missed their own launch by almost a century!
Y2k rollover went fine down here in Panama where many people the country would go in the dark with no power light or any utility.
My Windows is running fine also my redhat and open bsd are cool.
Y2K a REAL treath to the world i don't think so!
Antonio Checa (antonio@antoniocheca.com) - It's a brave new digital world...
Well, sadly the Y2K bug DOES exhist [i know im shocked] yes, my wonderful Micron 90mhz computer interpreted the date as January 4th, 1980 it was the 4th cause that was the first saturday in 1980. why its 1980, ill never know. all i know is winamp still works, so i am good to go. Have a nice day...
Ok from what I understand about Y2K is the amout of memory which stros the year can only hold two digets. I do not understand why the programmer who designed the older operating systems did not think about this more. I might be because they figured they would be dead by the year 2000, so why sould they care. My watch only has two digets for storing the year also. I set it to the year two tousand and it just said 00. If the watch had to devide by the year, then there would be a devide by zero error. Now days we san store gigabytes on a hard drive. One would think we would alow more space then two digets for what year it is. It must have been a buisness plann so people would buy generators.
AsKmE:D
Y2K hit our little computer crew without incident (we service the computers for the Physics Dept. here at the U of A). We watched the clocks roll over and nothing happenned. We knew it would be this way, since we had prepared for it.
Then, two weeks later (now, 1/11/00) we go to reclone one of the Windows labs. On 7 of the 21 machines we get errors in Netscape saying our encryption keys have expired. A quick check of the date revealed the computer thinking it was 2094.
Curious.
Rebooting and fixing the date in BIOS made them recognize the correct date.... untill the system was rebooted again... when the date would promptly switch back to 2094.
We updated the flash BIOS on one test machine... which fried the machine (now it wont even boot). So, we've had to hang our heads low and yank the 7 computers from the lab till we get replacement montherboards. Sigh....
So, we did have one fairly bad Y2K glitch..... it just took a week to happen! ;)
Sam"Criswell"Hart
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