Considering the other popular "hobbies" among priests, it's probably a good thing he has something to do, rather than somebody's son to do.
But I won't be impressed under he can brew Holy Water and the sacramental wine. Throw in the consecrated host, and you've got Jesus in the Whirlpool. (If you believe in Transubstantiation, that is.)
But isn't the GPL more or less the same thing [as an End User License Agreement]? It's trying to control what you do with something after it is in your possession?
I don't think so. After all, companies with EULAs impose whatever conditions they impose, and the conditiuon that you can't modify (or generally even see) their code.
All the GPL says you can't do is to use the code in your own work without also making your own work available under the GPL. Sure, it's a restriction, but it's a restriction on coders who would use GPL'd code.
A EULA is a restriction on all users, not just coders who want to create derivative works.
The GPL does not restrict my use of the software it licenses -- I can use it as I see fit--, nor does it restrict me to a relationship with the author for the term of use (e.g., giving the author the right, as in the latest Microsoft EULAs, to modify software on my system without even so much as prior notification).
I've seen the story about people looking for [the Space Shuttle Columbia encryption hardware]. Just wondering, is it a key recoverable in that it might shed some light on what happened, or is it a key recoverable because its classified and NASA doesn't want it going to the wrong folks?
Apparently, with the key, it's possible to control (to what degree, I'd like to know) a Space Shuttle remotely.
I recall reading this, probably in the Washington Post or New TYork Times, but searching both sites I can't come up with a cite.
A buzzer sounded at 7 AM when the workday started. The horn of the lunch truck signaled the beginning of lunch. A buzzer sounded at 3:30 in the afternoon for the day's. end (sic).
I am typing this on a windows2000 box now but I have apache, perl, devc++, cygwin, and tlc running. Would these utilities be free today if Gnu or Linux never was born? I don't think so.
Yes, and every other post (I exaggerate) is about how Richard Stallman smells.
I'm not sure the GPL is the best license possible, but hell, I've seen the free software ethic take off and provide me with more excellent programs than I'd ever be able to write myself -- or afford to purchase.
PS: I should note that Bell Labs provided the C and C++ programming languages free of charge too. Do you use them? how many of your programs -- how much of your OS -- is built on C or C++?
Further, there are many features of the VC++ language that simply do not exist in the C++ language (declspec, __int64, all the functions in C headers that start with an underscore, etc.
VC++ is not a language it is an (seriously broken) implemenation of the C++ language.
The "features" that you mention aren't features as such at all.
declspec is an instruction to the compiler as to what sort of linkage the linker expects, and entirely implemenatation and OS dependent.
__int64 is also an implementation issue; it's a typedef for whatever the particular implementation uses to represent 64 bit integral types. Like declspec, it's meaningless on another implementation or OS or machine architecture.
Functions that start with underscores (like any identifier that starts with an underscore) are according to the standard, "reserved to the implementation"; by definition they're not portable or part of the language per se (even if they exist to implement things specified in the Standard).
The point is, these aren't features; these things are "glue" to attach the language standard to the implementation/OS/machine, or conveneiences. These things aren't in the language because they don't make sense as part of the Standard.
Finally let me quote 'Technique 129: Avoid the CRT If You Can' in its entirety.
Is that the entire quote, or did you forget to add the quote?
And what's the CRT (in this context)? Surely not Cathodae Ray Tube?
Aside: I assume your distate for the 'after' example is the public member variables, the use of char* and float as opposed to std::string and double, the non-initialization of the pointer member, and that the ctor doesn't actually set up the object's state? Oh, and the Hungarian notation. And the "C-ism" of attaching the pointer decorator to the variable name, rather than to the type. Or an I missing other problems with it?
Before our campus moved to a fully switched LAN, I used to use Ethereal to sniff my whole dorm's AIM traffic in real time.
So you spent college wanking off to other people's cyber-sex?
What's that called, um, meta-cyber-sex? Anonymous three-way? Text voyeurism? Textual harrasment? Even more pathetic than most geeks' college sexual misadventures?
If they don't wanna learn, they won't learn whatever you do. Enforcing people on certain behaviours only creates stress and fear
+5 Insighful. Thank you.
But in my cynical capacity, I wonder if we should figure that many schools aren't there to teach, but to indoctrinate workers/consumers, in which case fear, stress, and hate may be just the motivators that America Inc. wants in its peons. Fear of being fired or ostracized and so not keeping up with the Jones's throwaway consumer McCulture, stress to make sure they work hard and just follow orders, and hate and class envy to make sure they stay on the treadmill.
(And no, I'm not a loony lefty, or really a lefty at all.)
So are these books free in any format, or do they retail for $35/physical, $15/electronic?
No dumbass, this was not a troll, it was -- and is -- a legitimate question.
Rather than marking it "-1 troll" as a knee-jerk reaction to anything you don't understand, why not just try to answer the question?
Never have I used my mod points to mark anything down -- I find it far more important to identify what I think is worthwhile, what I think others might want to see. So I have a hard time understand down modding in the first place.
But down modding legitimate questions on a comment and discussion list is simply ignorant arrogance.
Certification serves two main purposes. First, it invests technical pros in your product. If a person has worked for weeks or months to learn the arcana necessary to support Red Hat, what arethey going to suggest when management comes to them asking for an OS recommendation? This invested loyalty is a good part of what keeps MS shops MS shops.
Great, instead of recommending Red Hat because they honestly believe it's the best answer, they'll be pimping it to protect their paychecks.
"Sure enough, boss! Red Hat's the best solution for our embedded OS. Works great on toasters. And it's the most secure and stable too! Let's use it for all mission critical systems. And it's great for new users and long time linux geeks. You betcha, boss!"
Is it because you love linux or because you hate Microsoft that you've decided the ends justify the means?
I'm reminded of a Russian(?) aphorism: "Choose your enemies well, because you'll become them."
So-called "push poll" are a common technique to build support for an issue (or candidate), or to produce, quite literally, evidence of that support.
The technique is simple: phrases the questions in such a way that you get the answers you want:
"Would you support casino gambling in your jurisdiction if you knew that it would guarantee tax revenue to be applied to the previously underfunded public schools in your jurisdiction, and to the increase police spending to prevent the terrible increase in crime in your area, as well as lowering your income taxes?"
Hard to say no to that one.
In a predominantly "minority" area:
"Would you support minority-owned casino gambling in your jurisdiction if it would provide jobs and opportunities for under-served minorities?"
Again, hard to say no, especially if you're a member of that under-served "minority".
(I put "minority" in quotes only because it's not really a minority in a majority "minority" jurisdiction, is it?)
"Crime has increased by X percent in the last year in your area. Many criminals use/are associated with $thing. Would you support restrictions on $thing, knowing that it's associated with higher crime?"
Sure, $thing sounds pretty bad, whatever it is.
And so forth. You can easily construct your own loaded questions. With a few bucks, you can get a pollster to construct even more devious ones, and call a bunch of people who are in too much of a hurry to really give the question the consideration it deserves. Shake, bake, and then claim only your product/plan/candidate can solve the "problem."
Except that my university does port sniffing, and so its not possible to use the campus broadband as you suggest. Likewise they routinely inspect windows file sharing directories. Don't *even* lock them out, or your [sic: you're] off the net.
So you're paying for school, you're (as part of paying for school) paying for the broadband, and your school doesn't respect the privacy of your (electronic) personal effects?
Sounds like your school can't teach a reverence for liberty or a sense of personal responsibility any better than it was able to teach you the difference between "your" and "you're".
You really want to pay for an education from a system that won't treat you as an adult, that wants the right to perform the electronic equivalent of a strip search on you?
Yep, we're definitely "educating for the future." Apparently the future looks like 1984.
I'm no longer getting email when my comments are moderated.
And instead of listing the moderations given to a comment, percentages are given. This wouldn't be so bad, if those percentages were calculated by any accurate algorithm. No such luck.
If Insightful is 30% and Flamebait is 20%, it appears that each moderation (if weighted equally) must have contributed 10%, so there must have been 10 comments.
So 5 Funnies, 3 Insightfuls, 2 (*-1) Flamebaits = +6. But the "sum" is +2, and I doubt this particular comment got 10 moderations (I'm good, but I'm not that good).
I'm not super concerned with my Karma (or else I'd be posting this anonymously), biut I do like knowing what impression my comments make.
And I must admit a predjudice for math that makes sense.
Slashdot is a great resource, but it loses a lot when the moderation system makes no sense.
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Considering the other popular "hobbies" among priests, it's probably a good thing he has something to do, rather than somebody's son to do.
But I won't be impressed under he can brew Holy Water and the sacramental wine. Throw in the consecrated host, and you've got Jesus in the Whirlpool. (If you believe in Transubstantiation, that is.)
But isn't the GPL more or less the same thing [as an End User License Agreement]? It's trying to control what you do with something after it is in your possession?
I don't think so. After all, companies with EULAs impose whatever conditions they impose, and the conditiuon that you can't modify (or generally even see) their code.
All the GPL says you can't do is to use the code in your own work without also making your own work available under the GPL. Sure, it's a restriction, but it's a restriction on coders who would use GPL'd code.
A EULA is a restriction on all users, not just coders who want to create derivative works.
The GPL does not restrict my use of the software it licenses -- I can use it as I see fit--, nor does it restrict me to a relationship with the author for the term of use (e.g., giving the author the right, as in the latest Microsoft EULAs, to modify software on my system without even so much as prior notification).
I've seen the story about people looking for [the Space Shuttle Columbia encryption hardware]. Just wondering, is it a key recoverable in that it might shed some light on what happened, or is it a key recoverable because its classified and NASA doesn't want it going to the wrong folks?
Apparently, with the key, it's possible to control (to what degree, I'd like to know) a Space Shuttle remotely.
I recall reading this, probably in the Washington Post or New TYork Times, but searching both sites I can't come up with a cite.
A buzzer sounded at 7 AM when the workday started.
The horn of the lunch truck signaled the beginning
of lunch. A buzzer sounded at 3:30 in the
afternoon for the day's. end (sic).
Sounds like prison. Or a sweatshop.
I am typing this on a windows2000 box now but I have apache, perl, devc++, cygwin, and tlc running. Would these utilities be free today if Gnu or Linux never was born? I don't think so.
Yes, and every other post (I exaggerate) is about how Richard Stallman smells.
I'm not sure the GPL is the best license possible, but hell, I've seen the free software ethic take off and provide me with more excellent programs than I'd ever be able to write myself -- or afford to purchase.
PS: I should note that Bell Labs provided the C and C++ programming languages free of charge too. Do you use them? how many of your programs -- how much of your OS -- is built on C or C++?
Note however, that Fisher doesn't propose returning to his trusty Underwood typewriter to write his columns.
As a geek, I will be spending Valentine's Day alone with my boxen.
I'll spend the day with my Windows box, not my linux box, as Windows goes down so many more times in a day.
As long as we're pretending this is comp.lang.c++.moderated, while I agree that any op= should return *this, I didn't think the Standard required it.
As my copy of the Standard is at home, and I'm not, could you quote chapter & verse?
For what it's worth, comeau's online compiler passes the following:
Further, there are many features of the VC++ language that simply do not exist in the C++ language (declspec, __int64, all the functions in C headers that start with an underscore, etc.
VC++ is not a language it is an (seriously broken) implemenation of the C++ language.
The "features" that you mention aren't features as such at all.
declspec is an instruction to the compiler as to what sort of linkage the linker expects, and entirely implemenatation and OS dependent.
__int64 is also an implementation issue; it's a typedef for whatever the particular implementation uses to represent 64 bit integral types. Like declspec, it's meaningless on another implementation or OS or machine architecture.
Functions that start with underscores (like any identifier that starts with an underscore) are according to the standard, "reserved to the implementation"; by definition they're not portable or part of the language per se (even if they exist to implement things specified in the Standard).
The point is, these aren't features; these things are "glue" to attach the language standard to the implementation/OS/machine, or conveneiences. These things aren't in the language because they don't make sense as part of the Standard.
Finally let me quote 'Technique 129: Avoid the CRT If You Can' in its entirety.
Is that the entire quote, or did you forget to add the quote?
And what's the CRT (in this context)? Surely not Cathodae Ray Tube?
Aside: I assume your distate for the 'after' example is the public member variables, the use of char* and float as opposed to std::string and double, the non-initialization of the pointer member, and that the ctor doesn't actually set up the object's state? Oh, and the Hungarian notation. And the "C-ism" of attaching the pointer decorator to the variable name, rather than to the type. Or an I missing other problems with it?
Oh God!
I looked up!
Owwwwww!
Right into the laser!
I'm blind! I'm blind! I'm blind!
(Now I must give my water to the desert! No mechanical eyes for me!)
Before our campus moved to a fully switched LAN, I used to use Ethereal to sniff my whole dorm's AIM traffic in real time.
So you spent college wanking off to other people's cyber-sex?
What's that called, um, meta-cyber-sex? Anonymous three-way? Text voyeurism? Textual harrasment? Even more pathetic than most geeks' college sexual misadventures?
If they don't wanna learn, they won't learn whatever you do. Enforcing people on certain behaviours only creates stress and fear
+5 Insighful. Thank you.
But in my cynical capacity, I wonder if we should figure that many schools aren't there to teach, but to indoctrinate workers/consumers, in which case fear, stress, and hate may be just the motivators that America Inc. wants in its peons. Fear of being fired or ostracized and so not keeping up with the Jones's throwaway consumer McCulture, stress to make sure they work hard and just follow orders, and hate and class envy to make sure they stay on the treadmill.
(And no, I'm not a loony lefty, or really a lefty at all.)
Java is becoming more like Python!
:-)
s/Python/C++/g
So are these books free in any format, or do they retail for $35/physical, $15/electronic?
No dumbass, this was not a troll, it was -- and is -- a legitimate question.
Rather than marking it "-1 troll" as a knee-jerk reaction to anything you don't understand, why not just try to answer the question?
Never have I used my mod points to mark anything down -- I find it far more important to identify what I think is worthwhile, what I think others might want to see. So I have a hard time understand down modding in the first place.
But down modding legitimate questions on a comment and discussion list is simply ignorant arrogance.
So are these books free in any format, or do they retail for $35/physical, $15/electronic?
Or are they free if you find they at variou splaxces on the web, but pay if you get them from this collection/repository?
Certification serves two main purposes.
First, it invests technical pros in your product. If a person has worked for weeks or months to learn the arcana necessary to support Red Hat, what arethey going to suggest when management comes to them asking for an OS recommendation? This invested loyalty is a good part of what keeps MS shops MS shops.
Great, instead of recommending Red Hat because they honestly believe it's the best answer, they'll be pimping it to protect their paychecks.
"Sure enough, boss! Red Hat's the best solution for our embedded OS. Works great on toasters. And it's the most secure and stable too! Let's use it for all mission critical systems. And it's great for new users and long time linux geeks. You betcha, boss!"
Is it because you love linux or because you hate Microsoft that you've decided the ends justify the means?
I'm reminded of a Russian(?) aphorism: "Choose your enemies well, because you'll become them."
Yes, I agree. Berman fell victim to one of the classic blunders.
He started a land war in Asia????
Is there a new troll sweepstakes whereupon one attempts to build a kind of demented haiku in one's posting history [slashdot.org]?
Observation.
Is there a new troll sweepstakes whereupon one attempts to build a kind of demented haiku in one's posting history [slashdot.org]?
Excellent
Is there a new troll sweepstakes whereupon one attempts to build a kind of demented haiku in one's posting history [slashdot.org]?
Dude.
The technique is simple: phrases the questions in such a way that you get the answers you want:
Hard to say no to that one.
In a predominantly "minority" area:
Again, hard to say no, especially if you're a member of that under-served "minority".
(I put "minority" in quotes only because it's not really a minority in a majority "minority" jurisdiction, is it?)
Sure, $thing sounds pretty bad, whatever it is.
And so forth. You can easily construct your own loaded questions. With a few bucks, you can get a pollster to construct even more devious ones, and call a bunch of people who are in too much of a hurry to really give the question the consideration it deserves. Shake, bake, and then claim only your product/plan/candidate can solve the "problem."
Except that my university does port sniffing, and so its not possible to use the campus broadband as you suggest. Likewise they routinely inspect windows file sharing directories. Don't *even* lock them out, or your [sic: you're] off the net.
So you're paying for school, you're (as part of paying for school) paying for the broadband, and your school doesn't respect the privacy of your (electronic) personal effects?
Sounds like your school can't teach a reverence for liberty or a sense of personal responsibility any better than it was able to teach you the difference between "your" and "you're".
You really want to pay for an education from a system that won't treat you as an adult, that wants the right to perform the electronic equivalent of a strip search on you?
Yep, we're definitely "educating for the future." Apparently the future looks like 1984.
I'm no longer getting email when my comments are moderated.
And instead of listing the moderations given to a comment, percentages are given. This wouldn't be so bad, if those percentages were calculated by any accurate algorithm. No such luck.
But what's this:
(It's this comment)
If Insightful is 30% and Flamebait is 20%, it appears that each moderation (if weighted equally) must have contributed 10%, so there must have been 10 comments.
So 5 Funnies, 3 Insightfuls, 2 (*-1) Flamebaits = +6. But the "sum" is +2, and I doubt this particular comment got 10 moderations (I'm good, but I'm not that good).
I'm not super concerned with my Karma (or else I'd be posting this anonymously), biut I do like knowing what impression my comments make.
And I must admit a predjudice for math that makes sense.
Slashdot is a great resource, but it loses a lot when the moderation system makes no sense.
Can I take that line for my next .sig? The one I have is getting old. Of course I'll add you to my friends list for it. :-)
Sure, just credit me --orthogonal.