Propaganda? I say bollocks. Win2k with SP3 got an ISO certification for achieving a certain level of security. This is were the news ends. This is also where the person who presented the article behaves as a Linux/OSS groupie, serving FUD. The MS OS got a certification, which to some means a lot, to others, nothing. But to actually go as far as calling the whole shebang as propaganda is outrageous Correct me on this, but I don't remember Linux getting an ISO certification about anything. The way the whole affair was presented, reeks of OSS selfrighteous geekiness, smallmindedness and fantacism. You're A Debian user, right?
The article says, that the development was done on Windows. not that the robot itself is running on Windows. Combine this with the fact, that they're using Matlab and C/C++ and this means that they're using the great API Matlab has, for tuning Matlab code in C++ and vice versa. They're also using Matlab for the reason that it's _the_ application for simulation and generally scientific computing from a whole range of sciences. What I don't get is, why don't they use Matlab in Unix? A Unix version exists, costs the same, but I've never seen a simple copy of it ever. And I've been using Matlab for 6 years now...
I don't know if anyone has ever considered (or even posted) this, but lets suppose my pc has been infected and has indeed been used as a base for DoS attacks. Would I be legally responsible for those DoS attacks, if the victims traced the originators of said attacks back to my machine? Further yet, could MS (or any OS vendor/creator) be held liable to a claim by said victims, as it was MS's software my pc was running? And what would the situation be if the holes/backdoors/bugs (call them whatever you want) in that software were either never discovered by MS, or discovered and corrected, but I never got around installing patches?
"as the original court decision to rule the law unconstitional was otherthrown for some mysteerious reason (can we say Politics interfering in the law?) by a higher court"
It was the state in a sense. The state attorneys (prosecution) appealed, which caused the case to be sent to a higher court.
You've never been to Greece have you? The law was aimed at illegal gambling (electronic or not). The law was written by someone who was illiterate computer-wise. The police chief himself went on record to say, that the police would follow the spirit of the law and not the letter. Everybody ignored the law (either by knowingly and publicly breaking it or by taking part in demonstrations/petitions). Internet cafe owners went to court and they got a favourable rulling, on the basis that the law was unconstitutional. And definitely sure, all this happened to boost the profits of the casinos in the country. And guess what. The state only owns one-two casinos. The rest are privately owned by large multinationals (Hyatt springs to mind) and they do have to have a licence. We are a lawful democracy. Not a country of monkeys, where anyone can start a casino, anyone can be elected president since you can't be bothered to count the votes and there's nothing better than a quick war to revitalize your country's weapons industry.
I forgot to mention that this is old news, since the court ruling was more than a week ago. Regardless of whether the government chose to amend the law, it had no value as the law had already been thrown in their face. I personally submitted the news. I guess slashdot prefers "reliable" sources of info like the BBC, which of course is based in Greece (then again, some people need to be reminded of what that first "B" means, to some it means British, to other Bullshit).
Seeing as this is slahdot could you please explain to me what is so bad about 3dfx becoming a religion, when GNU/OSS/Linux and the like have reached a level of fanaticism amongst the developers and users that is hardly matched by any other social/technologic/scientific/religious movement?
In other words, what makes you think that OSS is more valid a subject of religious following, than a company making products, that up to a point in time reached new heights in performance in previously unexplored ways?
NVIDIA's G4? ATI's 9600? HA! I'm still using my V3 3000.
I'm not too sure about this, but Costello's record came out in Greece almost 2 months ago (late July) and to my knowledge, it doesn't contain any anti-piracy or DRM technologies. Perhaps it was an experiment. Perhaps they realized no matter what technologies they use, they can't stop the Greeks from getting what they want.
Yeay, it was high time we got "What does the back button do?" sysadmins. Think about it. When you've been fired, who do you think they're going to hire to watch the management software? AOLsters. The hackers of the 21st century.
Negroponte can make predictions as to how succesful 3G will be? How? What makes him an "expert" in telecommunications? To make it clearer, what makes Negroponte an expert in anything? Does the MIT association and the fact that the media love to have an "expert" handy make his words mean more than they should, to infinitely more people than it matters?
To make it plain for everyone. 3G doesn't exist YET, in the sense of a product that can be bought. There was a phone prototype, which melt down, simply because the equalizer designed to resolve the multipaths, couldn't handle the load. Europe and Japan seem hellbent on introducing 3G and what will really make or break it, is the price of the final product and the content offered. The U.S. is another matter altogether. Management of 2G networks is frankly pants and most US telcos have decided that they don't want/need 3G now, 2.5G in the form of EDGE and other things is enough.
As it can be understood, the 3G saga has a long way to go. So does 4G, on which any research institution/lab worth a dime is mainly working. So my question is this: Is Negroponte's commentary nothing but media friendly FUD? Is he offering his services as a consultant to the telco industry? If the answer to the second question is yes, what makes Negroponte different from Arthur Andersen, when almost 2 decades ago they advised AT&T, that the users of mobile phones in the year 2000 wouldn't exceed 20 million worldwide and they would advise AT&T stick to wired comms? This led AT&T to close almost all their wireless labs down and as a result they're now lightyears behind compared to their competitors in the wireless market.
If anyone wants "predictions" about 3G thay can ask my gran. Her predictions are more accurate than Negroponte's (or any Negroponte's) will ever be.
So I suppose us folks running AMD k6-2 500 with 192MB SDRAM and Caldera 2.3 (no updates, can't be bothered, isn't 2.2.14 a beauty?) are going to find it a bit heavy...
Nothing new there. We're talking about the same corporation, where the management gave a directive to journalists to refer to killings of Palestinians by Hebrews as killings, and to killings of Hebrews by Palestinians as murders... And to think that the BBC was once seen as the pillar or objective journalism....
Apple has managed to marklar us all. The OS was called marklar, not OSX. It's marklar independent and they only need cross-marklars to port the marklar.. I just hope someone's thought of introducing marklar compatibility, considering how much marklar on various marklars exists out there. It is more than obvious that we'd need marklar-marklar interpreters as their marklar is sure to be incompatible with anybody else's marklar.
Imaging Microsoft porting the bulk of their marklar on marklar. It'd cause Marklars to start speaking english...
Well it has been standard practice in science (in Mathematics especially, Number Theory springs to mind) to try and achieve the very hard/impossible.
The reason for this is that even if the objective is not achieved, the "intermediate results" are always more than worth the effort put. For example people trying to solve Hilbert's Twenty-three Problems from the International Congress of Mathematicians in Paris in 1900 have created more useful intermediate results than their actual end result.
Linus's remark "kill the git" will harm Linux, *nix, Free/Open source and the like, more than Microsoft or any Microsoft has done or will do. You would have thought, that Linus, being the public figure of a movement trying to get credibility and market share, that he is, would have chosen his words more carefuly. Sure, I bet Gates and everybody else had had similar reactions to potential problems and they were expressed privately. Not in public. *Sigh*, yes people are that stupid. And that refers to both Linus and the people who are going to cry wolf about his comments...
It's the middle of August for RMS's sake. Contributors and readers are probably away on holidays. Only people who are either too busy for their own good or have come back (or worse, have not grasped the concept of rest) are here....
No one should be restricted to use open source software only. It takes away any validity the term free/open source ever had. I thought the whole point was to give people choice. Not to take it away...
"I don't want to go to jail," said Edelman, who graduated from Harvard in June, and who plans to study law there this fall. "I want to go to law school."
What you fail to realize is that you/we are the society. And society only follows the laws/rules which it considers to be fair and reasonable. In other words, they can legislate all they want. If the people ignore them, what are they going to do? Incarcerate everybody?
I did not mean that last line as an insult, but as a tongue-in-cheek comment.
Now as far as the rest of your comment. Yes I agree with you, that Gates is only looking after his interests and nothing more. He's determined to use all possible weapons he has. My point is, that instead of saying "Thank God No, we're not Communists", we should say "Well, what's so wrong about having communists among us? It just goes to prove we have the world behind us and not just ingnorant, intolerant people." In other words we should respond with "force", not a whimper...
Slashdot Mirror
Propaganda?
I say bollocks.
Win2k with SP3 got an ISO certification for achieving a certain level of security. This is were the news ends. This is also where the person who presented the article behaves as a Linux/OSS groupie, serving FUD.
The MS OS got a certification, which to some means a lot, to others, nothing. But to actually go as far as calling the whole shebang as propaganda is outrageous
Correct me on this, but I don't remember Linux getting an ISO certification about anything.
The way the whole affair was presented, reeks of OSS selfrighteous geekiness, smallmindedness and fantacism.
You're A Debian user, right?
Could this be a warning shot towards MS and the antitrust case?
Does anybody know if ICQ is likely to support "Inviting Users" (a la MSN) any time soon?
He's using LZ for his compression.
With LZW it'd be the Smalest Posibl Post
The article says, that the development was done on Windows. not that the robot itself is running on Windows.
Combine this with the fact, that they're using Matlab and C/C++ and this means that they're using the great API Matlab has, for tuning Matlab code in C++ and vice versa. They're also using Matlab for the reason that it's _the_ application for simulation and generally scientific computing from a whole range of sciences.
What I don't get is, why don't they use Matlab in Unix? A Unix version exists, costs the same, but I've never seen a simple copy of it ever. And I've been using Matlab for 6 years now...
Did you know, that the wheel has been patented?
Innovation Patent #2001100012 granted by the Australian Patent Office.
I don't know if anyone has ever considered (or even posted) this, but lets suppose my pc has been infected and has indeed been used as a base for DoS attacks.
Would I be legally responsible for those DoS attacks, if the victims traced the originators of said attacks back to my machine?
Further yet, could MS (or any OS vendor/creator) be held liable to a claim by said victims, as it was MS's software my pc was running?
And what would the situation be if the holes/backdoors/bugs (call them whatever you want) in that software were either never discovered by MS, or discovered and corrected, but I never got around installing patches?
"as the original court decision to rule the law unconstitional was otherthrown for some mysteerious reason (can we say Politics interfering in the law?) by a higher court"
It was the state in a sense. The state attorneys (prosecution) appealed, which caused the case to be sent to a higher court.
You've never been to Greece have you?
The law was aimed at illegal gambling (electronic or not).
The law was written by someone who was illiterate computer-wise.
The police chief himself went on record to say, that the police would follow the spirit of the law and not the letter.
Everybody ignored the law (either by knowingly and publicly breaking it or by taking part in demonstrations/petitions).
Internet cafe owners went to court and they got a favourable rulling, on the basis that the law was unconstitutional.
And definitely sure, all this happened to boost the profits of the casinos in the country. And guess what. The state only owns one-two casinos. The rest are privately owned by large multinationals (Hyatt springs to mind) and they do have to have a licence. We are a lawful democracy. Not a country of monkeys, where anyone can start a casino, anyone can be elected president since you can't be bothered to count the votes and there's nothing better than a quick war to revitalize your country's weapons industry.
I forgot to mention that this is old news, since the court ruling was more than a week ago. Regardless of whether the government chose to amend the law, it had no value as the law had already been thrown in their face.
I personally submitted the news. I guess slashdot prefers "reliable" sources of info like the BBC, which of course is based in Greece (then again, some people need to be reminded of what that first "B" means, to some it means British, to other Bullshit).
Gates obviously has ;-)
Seeing as this is slahdot could you please explain to me what is so bad about 3dfx becoming a religion, when GNU/OSS/Linux and the like have reached a level of fanaticism amongst the developers and users that is hardly matched by any other social/technologic/scientific/religious movement?
In other words, what makes you think that OSS is more valid a subject of religious following, than a company making products, that up to a point in time reached new heights in performance in previously unexplored ways?
NVIDIA's G4? ATI's 9600? HA! I'm still using my V3 3000.
I'm not too sure about this, but Costello's record came out in Greece almost 2 months ago (late July) and to my knowledge, it doesn't contain any anti-piracy or DRM technologies.
Perhaps it was an experiment. Perhaps they realized no matter what technologies they use, they can't stop the Greeks from getting what they want.
Yeay, it was high time we got "What does the back button do?" sysadmins.
Think about it.
When you've been fired, who do you think they're going to hire to watch the management software?
AOLsters. The hackers of the 21st century.
Negroponte can make predictions as to how succesful 3G will be?
How? What makes him an "expert" in telecommunications? To make it clearer, what makes Negroponte an expert in anything?
Does the MIT association and the fact that the media love to have an "expert" handy make his words mean more than they should, to infinitely more people than it matters?
To make it plain for everyone. 3G doesn't exist YET, in the sense of a product that can be bought.
There was a phone prototype, which melt down, simply because the equalizer designed to resolve the multipaths, couldn't handle the load.
Europe and Japan seem hellbent on introducing 3G and what will really make or break it, is the price of the final product and the content offered. The U.S. is another matter altogether. Management of 2G networks is frankly pants and most US telcos have decided that they don't want/need 3G now, 2.5G in the form of EDGE and other things is enough.
As it can be understood, the 3G saga has a long way to go. So does 4G, on which any research institution/lab worth a dime is mainly working.
So my question is this: Is Negroponte's commentary nothing but media friendly FUD?
Is he offering his services as a consultant to the telco industry? If the answer to the second question is yes, what makes Negroponte different from Arthur Andersen, when almost 2 decades ago they advised AT&T, that the users of mobile phones in the year 2000 wouldn't exceed 20 million worldwide and they would advise AT&T stick to wired comms? This led AT&T to close almost all their wireless labs down and as a result they're now lightyears behind compared to their competitors in the wireless market.
If anyone wants "predictions" about 3G thay can ask my gran. Her predictions are more accurate than Negroponte's (or any Negroponte's) will ever be.
So I suppose us folks running AMD k6-2 500 with 192MB SDRAM and Caldera 2.3 (no updates, can't be bothered, isn't 2.2.14 a beauty?) are going to find it a bit heavy...
Nothing new there.
We're talking about the same corporation, where the management gave a directive to journalists to refer to killings of Palestinians by Hebrews as killings, and to killings of Hebrews by Palestinians as murders...
And to think that the BBC was once seen as the pillar or objective journalism....
Apple has managed to marklar us all.
The OS was called marklar, not OSX.
It's marklar independent and they only need cross-marklars to port the marklar..
I just hope someone's thought of introducing marklar compatibility, considering how much marklar on various marklars exists out there.
It is more than obvious that we'd need marklar-marklar interpreters as their marklar is sure to be incompatible with anybody else's marklar.
Imaging Microsoft porting the bulk of their marklar on marklar. It'd cause Marklars to start speaking english...
Well it has been standard practice in science (in Mathematics especially, Number Theory springs to mind) to try and achieve the very hard/impossible.
The reason for this is that even if the objective is not achieved, the "intermediate results" are always more than worth the effort put.
For example people trying to solve Hilbert's Twenty-three Problems from the International Congress of Mathematicians in Paris in 1900 have created more useful intermediate results than their actual end result.
Linus's remark "kill the git" will harm Linux, *nix, Free/Open source and the like, more than Microsoft or any Microsoft has done or will do.
You would have thought, that Linus, being the public figure of a movement trying to get credibility and market share, that he is, would have chosen his words more carefuly. Sure, I bet Gates and everybody else had had similar reactions to potential problems and they were expressed privately. Not in public.
*Sigh*, yes people are that stupid. And that refers to both Linus and the people who are going to cry wolf about his comments...
It's the middle of August for RMS's sake.
Contributors and readers are probably away on holidays.
Only people who are either too busy for their own good or have come back (or worse, have not grasped the concept of rest) are here....
No one should be restricted to use open source software only.
It takes away any validity the term free/open source ever had.
I thought the whole point was to give people choice. Not to take it away...
Better yet, write a tool that has the intelligence to correct grammar and syntax errors. Heh.
"I don't want to go to jail," said Edelman, who graduated from Harvard in June, and who plans to study law there this fall. "I want to go to law school."
He want to be a lawyer?
Motion Denied. Case Closed.
What you fail to realize is that you/we are the society.
And society only follows the laws/rules which it considers to be fair and reasonable.
In other words, they can legislate all they want. If the people ignore them, what are they going to do? Incarcerate everybody?
I did not mean that last line as an insult, but as a tongue-in-cheek comment.
Now as far as the rest of your comment.
Yes I agree with you, that Gates is only looking after his interests and nothing more. He's determined to use all possible weapons he has.
My point is, that instead of saying "Thank God No, we're not Communists", we should say "Well, what's so wrong about having communists among us? It just goes to prove we have the world behind us and not just ingnorant, intolerant people."
In other words we should respond with "force", not a whimper...