--* The basic mission for which the police exist is to prevent crime and disorder.--
The prevent crime part is part of the problem. Are you going to arrest someone because they might do something wrong? When there is a crime they are there to bring that person(s) to Justice. The justice system then decides innocence, guilt, punishment.
IF you are going to have a free society, you are going to have crime. Give people freedom of choice and some will choose wrong.
The police should enforce the law, not prevent crime. Of course enforcing the law will prevent some crime but not all.
--I cannot think of any place I'd rather be than where I'm at right now... except maybe Tennessee (no income tax). Or New Hampshire. [freestateproject.org]--
There are a lot of dead renters in New Hampshire. You know live free or die.
Tennessee now that is a cool place to live where it borders Virginia. Then you don't have to pay Tennessee's high sales tax, can play the lottery, and get cheap smokes just across the border. AND I think fireworks are legal in TN. At least they don't enforce the law if there is one.
In the eastern US some people don't have a choice. It's Verizon or nothing. That's how they get by with this crap. They should just be selling bandwidth. How it's used shouldn't be taxed by them or anybody else. Oh wait their dsl is the same even where there is competition. People need to complain loud to the lawmakers. Oh wait both sides are in their pockets as well. There is nothing anyone can do because of no competition and corruption.
The problem here is that since Verizon bought Alltel that's your only choice period. I wish someone else would come in here because Alltel didn't used to lock things up. Now with the takeover, it is slowly happening. Verizon Wireless is partially owned by Vodafone which I don't think would do this, but controlling interest is with Verizon Communications which has to be one of the most evil corps around.
--Next thing you know, you'll be telling us that third-world countries have faster interweb access than we do - without bandwidth caps. This is old news.--
Damn it's payday and this old news just put me in a bad mood again. Same with cellphone bandwidth. Oh yes Verizon promises 4G everywhere soon. Yeah right.
--I assume they're planning on geosynchronous orbit (the article mentions they are), since anything else will mean intermittent power and moving collectors. In that case, the typical launch cost is $20,000/kg, and the there are serious total weight restrictions per launch. Solar cells come in two varieties: Heavy and inefficient. Trucking and installation costs of solar cells here on Earth are what, $200/kg, if that?--
So what if it moves, they just have to have a constellation of satellites for this to work. Very expensive.
--However, there is a practical path for development of SBSP in military applications. A few satellites and some trucks with microwave receivers on the back are very appealing when compared with the current method for generating battlefield power: supply lines hauling in diesel fuel to power good old-fashioned generators. SBSP has great tactical advantages, and may actually be comparable in cost as well. From here, we may very well see it gain civilian applications as well.--
And to call in a space strike anywhere on earth if they have enough of these. How would it work. Just put some giant magnifying lens up there and it would fry people like ants. That would be something that the military would want.
You might be able to use a repeater. Put a Big Satellite into geostationary and a bunch of smaller ones into LEO. It ain't gonna happen though (1 gagillion metric tons). It would probably cheap to put full scale fusion reactors in place of that. The larger they make those the more efficient they seem to be. See you start out with fission goto fusion and then antimatter. All of this is expanding exponentially even though it is small now. This has happened before and will again as time flows in circles. Maybe it's just a mad dream though.
Definitely, slow charging on a Windows XP pro box is there. Refusing to charge when the phone is low on power are definite problems in Windows but if you are talking about Linux, I would like to ask you really that you see nothing wrong with it in Linux. It could be doing the same thing there because the Motorola branded charger has some quirks 5.2V vs. 5.0V on USB. I guess 500mA just might not be enough power on this device or the 200 ohm resistor shorted from GND to another pin on the charger or so I've read.
Another thing it's not just the small increase in CO2 that humans produce. It is also human ability to cut down vegetation (ie rain forest) that would help keep things in balance. Not the end of the world but maybe the human race. Now we have so many ways to wipe ourselves out and so many people ready and willing to do it, it is really depressing, but we probably do not as of yet have the power to wipe out all life here but we are getting closer with each new thing we learn. A thing is neither good nor bad it's the use that it can be put too. If there is a really good use that something can be put to, then there is probably something else equally bad that it can do too. Just the fossil record alone shows what an incredible impact that we have had here on this earth in such a short time. I agree there is too much data supporting the fact that we are the cause of climate change this time and it looks like it will be warmer at the poles. This will probably kill lots of fish that are used to salt being in their water, take out a lot of coastal areas, and maybe even change the very way plate tectonics works. Who knows but what is known is not good.
In this particular case you are right. Windows does this. So that's what I'm doing, just using it even though it only halfway works right. I don't seem to have another choice.
Before I figured it out I thought it might have been hardware related. Someone mentioned a cable or possibly the voltage that cause a Motorola Razr of some particular type not to charge as fast from a computers USB port. The windows driver does say that it uses 500mA. If I daisy chain six more devices off of this with an non powered hub, then why would they work. Windows stupid device manager can track the power usage of the ports but not the bandwidth. Having to even have a specific Motorola driver just to charge a battery is stupid too AND it will not work if the battery is down to a certain point. Motorola wrote the driver and designed the phone and I'm doubting how well one would charge on a Linux box. It's got a 5.0v rail just like a windows box. I think the Razr's charger is 5.2V and has a non-standard cable.
So if you have a Razr that charges just fine on a Linux box, I would be interested in the model number? Mine is a cheapo v3a. So if you have any further info on how you can transfer files, charge a Razr on a Linux box, I would be interested. Because then I could have some more facts as to whether some of the blame might need to go towards Motorola and the design of their hardware, but it may in fact be totally a Windows issue but I suspect there are very few people here on this forum that have a Razr and a Linux box hooked together or would even admit to owning a Razr but I'm just trying to work with what I have for now.
--Youtube earns money from copyright infringement made by their users to, the difference is that they listed to and remove copyrighted content while the TPB does not.--
I thought they were being sued too. Google also has just a little more resources than TPB.
There are half as many Root Hubs as their are devices. Well one Root Hub says it supports 6 devices. Now I thought that 1 hub was limited to 500mA. But I may have a conflict somewhere too. I have a lot of devices and my machine is 5 years old. But low and behold you are right after reading what you say, every device should be 500mA on a computer since they are self powered. The ones that aren't self power I was guessing have to share 500mA. I guess the point being that it will negotiate 500mA with a half charged battery and charge up but not with one that is almost dead but can still manage to place a call for a short time. It also cannot take a charge and negotiate a bluetooth connection at the same time. I don't know if that is a USB conflict or the way it is designed. The battery charger made by Motorola will charge the phone when it is stone dead so I still don't see why USB wouldn't do the same thing if Motorola wasn't using a resistor and a short across their cable as someone else here mentioned. It might not be anything malicious since the whole Razr GUI is weird. Then again they might want to sell more chargers.
When you charge the phone up it automatically turns the ringer on to loud if you had it on vibrate. You can't turn that feature off. I does lots of things automatically that you may not want it to do and there is no way to turn most of them off like with any other cell phone. At least with Windows I have managed to turn stuff off I don't want. I just got the Razr V3a because it was cheaper than buying a battery for my LG at the time and it had bluetooth.
--If he demands you give it to another person, or 20 other people, you have to give it, by law.--
I would let the boss do that part after giving the boss the passwords that I had. That might get me fired but not locked up like failing to give them to a boss. They sign the check not those 20 other people and to have it in writing is a good idea as well.
Here, there is a third party that keeps the passwords if anything happens to me, because I have given the boss passwords before and they loose them. Nobody absolutely has all of the cookies in the jar in any case. It just keeps the screw ups down. The less someone can mess with the less they can tear up.
Thanks, I already have and have, seen this before. It's an old trick. I didn't think that was still happening. I wonder if you set up a business that sold cables made like these, would the DMCA kick in?
You used to see these aftermarket cables and software for LG's that didn't have Bluetooth connectivity. You just don't see those much any more. It looks like someone would want one of these just to charge their phone if for no other reason.
I seem to have a driver that works now, only it's in software and will not charge the phone if the battery is down to a certain point because the phone can't communicate back. Thanks again.
--Does the port address somehow magically make it behave differently?--
Yes, it all depends upon what you have plugged into them. If you have 8 ports maybe you might only have have 4 root hubs. I think this motherboard related and not OS related.
I guess it does but it's still BS. This is an old trick that dates back. Leica used to do this with the cables to their survey (GPS) equipment. These were off the shelf items that just had the same thing A short with a resistor across the pins at over ten time the price of an off the shelf cable $50 vs. 5$. They made enough money on the rest of the stuff but man to use a proprietary cable to nickle and dime you more just turns you off to wanting to buy their stuff in the first place.
There used to be some cables for sale aftermarket for LG's that were cheap but you can't find them now. Do you reckon that making a cable with that resistor in there and selling it violates the DMCA do you? I just don't see after market phone tools packages like I did. I got the Motorola ones through a very cheap deal. I think it came with something else I was already going to get.
--The "Cheap DRM" is almost correct, the issue is that the "OEM Motorola" chargers have a resistor between pins 2 and 3 (center pins) of the mini USB plug, no USB communication (from a computer), or resistor and the phone wont charge.--
Damn good info there. Do you know the rating on that resistor? I reckon the driver for computer communications at least for windows is free. I dunno about linux. The bad thing is that you can't have a completely dead phone and have it charge at 500mA. It just will not install the driver.
I think I have it figured out now the Motorola USB Composite device is 500mA. You also have the 98mA USB Composite device on the same Root Hub.
Don't try to charge your Razr V3a from a computer with the battery almost dead. It will not recognize the device. At least mine doesn't. Half dead and it will charge just as fast as the charger that comes with it. Almost dead and it wont work even Bluetooth still might for a minute or two. Moral to the story don't install Phone Tools 4.0. Stick with 3.5 Bluetooth for that and just plug it up to charge. I can't do both at the same time because I think both devices are on the same Root Hub. I'll fix that later. Oh the joys of too many USB devices.
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funny but sad but true. I think we have all figured out now it's just going to be more of the same.
That got us in this mess. Using math for social problems might not always be the best way to do things. It's just bookmaking, that's all.
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/17-03/wp_quant?currentPage=3
--* The basic mission for which the police exist is to prevent crime and disorder.--
The prevent crime part is part of the problem. Are you going to arrest someone because they might do something wrong? When there is a crime they are there to bring that person(s) to Justice. The justice system then decides innocence, guilt, punishment.
IF you are going to have a free society, you are going to have crime. Give people freedom of choice and some will choose wrong.
The police should enforce the law, not prevent crime. Of course enforcing the law will prevent some crime but not all.
--I cannot think of any place I'd rather be than where I'm at right now... except maybe Tennessee (no income tax). Or New Hampshire. [freestateproject.org]--
There are a lot of dead renters in New Hampshire. You know live free or die.
Tennessee now that is a cool place to live where it borders Virginia. Then you don't have to pay Tennessee's high sales tax, can play the lottery, and get cheap smokes just across the border. AND I think fireworks are legal in TN. At least they don't enforce the law if there is one.
In the eastern US some people don't have a choice. It's Verizon or nothing. That's how they get by with this crap. They should just be selling bandwidth. How it's used shouldn't be taxed by them or anybody else. Oh wait their dsl is the same even where there is competition. People need to complain loud to the lawmakers. Oh wait both sides are in their pockets as well. There is nothing anyone can do because of no competition and corruption.
The problem here is that since Verizon bought Alltel that's your only choice period. I wish someone else would come in here because Alltel didn't used to lock things up. Now with the takeover, it is slowly happening. Verizon Wireless is partially owned by Vodafone which I don't think would do this, but controlling interest is with Verizon Communications which has to be one of the most evil corps around.
--Next thing you know, you'll be telling us that third-world countries have faster interweb access than we do - without bandwidth caps. This is old news.--
Damn it's payday and this old news just put me in a bad mood again. Same with cellphone bandwidth. Oh yes Verizon promises 4G everywhere soon. Yeah right.
What about "Number 3". That's a good name.
--I assume they're planning on geosynchronous orbit (the article mentions they are), since anything else will mean intermittent power and moving collectors. In that case, the typical launch cost is $20,000/kg, and the there are serious total weight restrictions per launch. Solar cells come in two varieties: Heavy and inefficient. Trucking and installation costs of solar cells here on Earth are what, $200/kg, if that?--
So what if it moves, they just have to have a constellation of satellites for this to work. Very expensive.
--However, there is a practical path for development of SBSP in military applications. A few satellites and some trucks with microwave receivers on the back are very appealing when compared with the current method for generating battlefield power: supply lines hauling in diesel fuel to power good old-fashioned generators. SBSP has great tactical advantages, and may actually be comparable in cost as well. From here, we may very well see it gain civilian applications as well.--
And to call in a space strike anywhere on earth if they have enough of these. How would it work. Just put some giant magnifying lens up there and it would fry people like ants. That would be something that the military would want.
You might be able to use a repeater. Put a Big Satellite into geostationary and a bunch of smaller ones into LEO. It ain't gonna happen though (1 gagillion metric tons). It would probably cheap to put full scale fusion reactors in place of that. The larger they make those the more efficient they seem to be. See you start out with fission goto fusion and then antimatter. All of this is expanding exponentially even though it is small now. This has happened before and will again as time flows in circles. Maybe it's just a mad dream though.
Definitely, slow charging on a Windows XP pro box is there. Refusing to charge when the phone is low on power are definite problems in Windows but if you are talking about Linux, I would like to ask you really that you see nothing wrong with it in Linux. It could be doing the same thing there because the Motorola branded charger has some quirks 5.2V vs. 5.0V on USB. I guess 500mA just might not be enough power on this device or the 200 ohm resistor shorted from GND to another pin on the charger or so I've read.
Another thing it's not just the small increase in CO2 that humans produce. It is also human ability to cut down vegetation (ie rain forest) that would help keep things in balance. Not the end of the world but maybe the human race. Now we have so many ways to wipe ourselves out and so many people ready and willing to do it, it is really depressing, but we probably do not as of yet have the power to wipe out all life here but we are getting closer with each new thing we learn. A thing is neither good nor bad it's the use that it can be put too. If there is a really good use that something can be put to, then there is probably something else equally bad that it can do too. Just the fossil record alone shows what an incredible impact that we have had here on this earth in such a short time. I agree there is too much data supporting the fact that we are the cause of climate change this time and it looks like it will be warmer at the poles. This will probably kill lots of fish that are used to salt being in their water, take out a lot of coastal areas, and maybe even change the very way plate tectonics works. Who knows but what is known is not good.
In this particular case you are right. Windows does this. So that's what I'm doing, just using it even though it only halfway works right. I don't seem to have another choice.
Before I figured it out I thought it might have been hardware related. Someone mentioned a cable or possibly the voltage that cause a Motorola Razr of some particular type not to charge as fast from a computers USB port. The windows driver does say that it uses 500mA. If I daisy chain six more devices off of this with an non powered hub, then why would they work. Windows stupid device manager can track the power usage of the ports but not the bandwidth. Having to even have a specific Motorola driver just to charge a battery is stupid too AND it will not work if the battery is down to a certain point. Motorola wrote the driver and designed the phone and I'm doubting how well one would charge on a Linux box. It's got a 5.0v rail just like a windows box. I think the Razr's charger is 5.2V and has a non-standard cable.
So if you have a Razr that charges just fine on a Linux box, I would be interested in the model number? Mine is a cheapo v3a. So if you have any further info on how you can transfer files, charge a Razr on a Linux box, I would be interested. Because then I could have some more facts as to whether some of the blame might need to go towards Motorola and the design of their hardware, but it may in fact be totally a Windows issue but I suspect there are very few people here on this forum that have a Razr and a Linux box hooked together or would even admit to owning a Razr but I'm just trying to work with what I have for now.
--Youtube earns money from copyright infringement made by their users to, the difference is that they listed to and remove copyrighted content while the TPB does not.--
I thought they were being sued too. Google also has just a little more resources than TPB.
--How is it different from someone seeing a pile of DVDs in a trash can and telling people where to find the trash can?--
That may be illegal too. I wouldn't do that.
What about digg?
Yes I think 5.2V. Thanks.
There are half as many Root Hubs as their are devices. Well one Root Hub says it supports 6 devices. Now I thought that 1 hub was limited to 500mA. But I may have a conflict somewhere too. I have a lot of devices and my machine is 5 years old. But low and behold you are right after reading what you say, every device should be 500mA on a computer since they are self powered. The ones that aren't self power I was guessing have to share 500mA. I guess the point being that it will negotiate 500mA with a half charged battery and charge up but not with one that is almost dead but can still manage to place a call for a short time. It also cannot take a charge and negotiate a bluetooth connection at the same time. I don't know if that is a USB conflict or the way it is designed. The battery charger made by Motorola will charge the phone when it is stone dead so I still don't see why USB wouldn't do the same thing if Motorola wasn't using a resistor and a short across their cable as someone else here mentioned. It might not be anything malicious since the whole Razr GUI is weird. Then again they might want to sell more chargers.
When you charge the phone up it automatically turns the ringer on to loud if you had it on vibrate. You can't turn that feature off. I does lots of things automatically that you may not want it to do and there is no way to turn most of them off like with any other cell phone. At least with Windows I have managed to turn stuff off I don't want. I just got the Razr V3a because it was cheaper than buying a battery for my LG at the time and it had bluetooth.
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-5055986.html
--If he demands you give it to another person, or 20 other people, you have to give it, by law.--
I would let the boss do that part after giving the boss the passwords that I had. That might get me fired but not locked up like failing to give them to a boss. They sign the check not those 20 other people and to have it in writing is a good idea as well.
Here, there is a third party that keeps the passwords if anything happens to me, because I have given the boss passwords before and they loose them. Nobody absolutely has all of the cookies in the jar in any case. It just keeps the screw ups down. The less someone can mess with the less they can tear up.
Thanks, I already have and have, seen this before. It's an old trick. I didn't think that was still happening. I wonder if you set up a business that sold cables made like these, would the DMCA kick in?
You used to see these aftermarket cables and software for LG's that didn't have Bluetooth connectivity. You just don't see those much any more. It looks like someone would want one of these just to charge their phone if for no other reason.
I seem to have a driver that works now, only it's in software and will not charge the phone if the battery is down to a certain point because the phone can't communicate back. Thanks again.
--Does the port address somehow magically make it behave differently?--
Yes, it all depends upon what you have plugged into them. If you have 8 ports maybe you might only have have 4 root hubs. I think this motherboard related and not OS related.
I guess it does but it's still BS. This is an old trick that dates back. Leica used to do this with the cables to their survey (GPS) equipment. These were off the shelf items that just had the same thing A short with a resistor across the pins at over ten time the price of an off the shelf cable $50 vs. 5$. They made enough money on the rest of the stuff but man to use a proprietary cable to nickle and dime you more just turns you off to wanting to buy their stuff in the first place.
There used to be some cables for sale aftermarket for LG's that were cheap but you can't find them now. Do you reckon that making a cable with that resistor in there and selling it violates the DMCA do you? I just don't see after market phone tools packages like I did. I got the Motorola ones through a very cheap deal. I think it came with something else I was already going to get.
--The "Cheap DRM" is almost correct, the issue is that the "OEM Motorola" chargers have a resistor between pins 2 and 3 (center pins) of the mini USB plug, no USB communication (from a computer), or resistor and the phone wont charge.--
Damn good info there. Do you know the rating on that resistor? I reckon the driver for computer communications at least for windows is free. I dunno about linux. The bad thing is that you can't have a completely dead phone and have it charge at 500mA. It just will not install the driver.
I think I have it figured out now the Motorola USB Composite device is 500mA. You also have the 98mA USB Composite device on the same Root Hub.
Don't try to charge your Razr V3a from a computer with the battery almost dead. It will not recognize the device. At least mine doesn't. Half dead and it will charge just as fast as the charger that comes with it. Almost dead and it wont work even Bluetooth still might for a minute or two. Moral to the story don't install Phone Tools 4.0. Stick with 3.5 Bluetooth for that and just plug it up to charge. I can't do both at the same time because I think both devices are on the same Root Hub. I'll fix that later. Oh the joys of too many USB devices.