"If you are like me and believe that sites which simply trade hashes of illegal files should not themselves be illegal, you might want to consider heading over to www.lokitorrent.com and making a small donation to their legal defense fund."
Geez, how much hard-earned money should people give to others who get busted for infringement / contributory infringemet?
And, here's a thought puzzle for you:
When it comes to sharing music, lots of people seem to aruge that it's ok because they only do it to help decide whether to buy the CD.
Do people who BitTorrent movies then go out and rent/buy it afterward?
"Winamp, windows media player, real audio/video, quicktime, divx, xvid, itunes, etc etc."
I don't know Peercast (which seems oriented toward "radio" type uses), but I can comment about my app, Andromeda.
Essentially, the question is: you've got your collection of files, now what?
As for Andromeda, it turns your collection into a browsable, streaming Web site (mostly used with MP3s, though you can use it with OGG, Real, etc.)
(You need a PHP or ASP capable Web server)
It's more of an "on-demand" approach (rather than "radio") -- you decide what you want to play. And since it's Web based, you don't have to bother toting physical stuff around or installing special client apps -- it all happens over the network (Internet or LAN).
When it comes to personal collections, those are generally kept to private use, but "sharable" works (ie, Creative Commons, or if you're the author) can be put on public sites.
In other words, it's not about YAMP, it's about what you do with what you've got.
"If statement that was true, explain why multi-billion dollar [ibm.com] companies [sun.com] are spending big money to fund Open Source [ibm.com] projects [openoffice.org]."
fwiw, your 4 examples are really just 2 examples (IBM twice, and Sun twice).
In any case, do you really think that IBM and Sun care about Open Source? They only care insomuch as it's part of their strategey to deflate Microsoft and perhaps then be in a better position to compete with them in other markets.
"Nobody believes that Microsoft focuses on security. Nobody. That is the reason that the passport system failed. The general computer using public is not really tech-knowledgable."
Your logic kind of cancels itself out. You are correct that the bulk of the public isn't tech-knowledgable -- and so I'd say that it's safe to say that they didn't avoid Microsoft's Passport for security reasons.
(after all, do they avoid Microsoft's OSes for security reasons?)
Passport mostly failed because those masses didn't "get it" and didn't care to.
It's one thing to support the notion of GPL, but to suggest that all proprietary software is unethical, well that's just obnoxious.
So now coders hired to do proprietary work are unethical too?
He cites ingredients on food packaging -- but he knows perfectly well that a mere list of ingredients cannot be used to duplicate the food. It's misleading.
And now he's also open to the idea that the government should force all software makers to publish their source code? That's creepy.
Also, he should just acknowledge that "free as in speech" software almost always winds up as "free as in beer" too. It's kind of dishonest to pretend otherwise.
It's pretty informative to read RMS in his own words.
"I'm one of those people who's donated more money (and time/code/bugsreports) to open projects than the sum of all closed products."
You may indeed be one of those people, and I know from personal experience that those people are really great. However, I can also tell you from personal experience that there just aren't enough like you.
You simply can't make it as a full-time coder on a begware basis -- ask any coder with a "donate" button, you'll see. Sure there are exceptions -- but mostly from corporate sponsorship for mega projects like Apache, Firefox, etc.
"This from the genius who gave us this gem during his Salon.com. 15mins of fame:"
Rather than cheering on file sharing, the EFF should be presenting us with the details of its alternative so that we can measure it against our current copyright system, and collectively decide which system we prefer.
You actually disagree with that? You'd rather just accept some unspecified alternative as better without knowing anything about how it works? Not me.
The person is refering to my article here (click the "free day pass" for the full text -- fwiw, the "coping isn't cool" title itself wasn't written by me, that's by Salon).
Dont forget that the EFF used to suggest that the RIAA should be suing infringers. And their p2p solution hinges on the silly notion that *almost all* rightsholders will all of sudden voluntarily license their work, and *almost all* downloaders will all of sudden volutarily pay.
If you prefer that, then you prefer something that makes even less sense than what we have now.
"Maybe you could refute his claims instead of just being pissed about the attitude."
I'm not pissed about the attitude, I just think it's counterproductive.
It's certainly true that the core Andromeda code isn't directly modifiable -- thought it is modifiable via separate prefs & skin files. There are a number of reasons for that, but I don't want to clutter up the thread going into Andromeda details.
However, you should take care to note that this poster seems to be implying that, had Andromeda been GPL, that then he would have paid. Do you really believe that?
No, he isn't going to pay if the code is not GPL, and he isn't going to pay if it is. He just wants stuff for nothing.
SO, in the context of a thread about trying to make a living as a self-employed coder, he is irrelevant (apart from observing his somewhat typical hostile attitude).
"oh yeah, i dimly remember andromeda. i threw it out when i realized that it purposely wouldn't work if i modified the php. and i replaced it with a GPL competitor."
This reply to my post (just above it) perfectly demonstrates what it can be like.
So here I am, trying to pay my own way -- and the response isn't "no thanks, it's not for me" -- it's this weird and totally unnecessary hostility.
I'm used to it, and I know that people like this don't generally contribute much (GPL or otherwise), but for a new coder getting started, people like this can be a big bummer.
One trick I've found handy is to use Remote Desktop to control a "media" PC/server.
For example, I keep an old box wired to my stereo and I can use any other box to control it via Remote Desktop (same thing should work with XP's built-in Terminal Server, VNC, PCanywhere, etc.)
SO, on my Wi-Fi laptop, I open a remote desktop window, and when I click play, it plays out my stereo. The cool thing is that it works with any audio source. Same trick should work with TV cards etc.
And, fwiw, I make a Web-app for PHP or ASP (Andromeda) for playing MP3s, OGGs, etc over the Web.
"But the majority of internet infrastructure is based on open source software. That doesn't have a wide impact?
Time to mention CivicSpace Labs, a project started by Zach Rosen who had been with the Dean campaign (along with a few others who I don't know).
Quoting from the site: "CivicSpace Labs is a funded continuation of the DeanSpace project. We are veterans of the Dean campaign web-effort and are now building the tool-set of our dreams. We are busily completing work on CivicSpace, a grassroots organizing platform that empowers collective action inside communities and cohesively connects remote groups of supporters."
Disclosure: I make this software, but Andromeda has long been serving Ogg, see Vorbis.
Basically, you need.m3u (audio/x-mpegurl) mapped to a player that can handle Ogg, most often Winamp.
The main problem with Ogg as a "general public" format (as opposed to a "private collection" format) is that the general public still isn't ogg'ed -- but that matters less with a private collection.
I just became a pop for the first time 2 months ago, so I've been paying attention to this sort of stuff.
One interesting thing is that she certainly communicates her needs. For her, crying that is accompanied by head-nods and one foot kicking means "I'm hungry" (and, yes, there's quite a lot of crying with head-nods and foot kicks;).
What's interesting is that she had that behavior almost as soon as she was born -- and I don't think every kid does the same thing.
Point is that it seems like she was born with a bit of language (mixed verbal + sign) but that it's not the same languge other kids are born with -- I think each has his/her own.
Verbally, she'll now stick out her tongue when I do, but she doesn't seem to even speak "babytalk" yet -- mostly cries and cooes...
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Geez, how much hard-earned money should people give to others who get busted for infringement / contributory infringemet?
And, here's a thought puzzle for you:
When it comes to sharing music, lots of people seem to aruge that it's ok because they only do it to help decide whether to buy the CD.
Do people who BitTorrent movies then go out and rent/buy it afterward?
I don't know Peercast (which seems oriented toward "radio" type uses), but I can comment about my app, Andromeda.
Essentially, the question is: you've got your collection of files, now what?
As for Andromeda, it turns your collection into a browsable, streaming Web site (mostly used with MP3s, though you can use it with OGG, Real, etc.)
(You need a PHP or ASP capable Web server)
It's more of an "on-demand" approach (rather than "radio") -- you decide what you want to play. And since it's Web based, you don't have to bother toting physical stuff around or installing special client apps -- it all happens over the network (Internet or LAN).
When it comes to personal collections, those are generally kept to private use, but "sharable" works (ie, Creative Commons, or if you're the author) can be put on public sites.
In other words, it's not about YAMP, it's about what you do with what you've got.
fwiw, your 4 examples are really just 2 examples (IBM twice, and Sun twice).
In any case, do you really think that IBM and Sun care about Open Source? They only care insomuch as it's part of their strategey to deflate Microsoft and perhaps then be in a better position to compete with them in other markets.
Your logic kind of cancels itself out. You are correct that the bulk of the public isn't tech-knowledgable -- and so I'd say that it's safe to say that they didn't avoid Microsoft's Passport for security reasons.
(after all, do they avoid Microsoft's OSes for security reasons?)
Passport mostly failed because those masses didn't "get it" and didn't care to.
I think "rival companies banded together to oppose it" was far less relevant than "consumers failed to embrace it"
So now coders hired to do proprietary work are unethical too?
He cites ingredients on food packaging -- but he knows perfectly well that a mere list of ingredients cannot be used to duplicate the food. It's misleading.
And now he's also open to the idea that the government should force all software makers to publish their source code? That's creepy.
Also, he should just acknowledge that "free as in speech" software almost always winds up as "free as in beer" too. It's kind of dishonest to pretend otherwise.
It's pretty informative to read RMS in his own words.
On occasion, it can be very useful to try and contact somebody that had a similar problem, but a while ago. (ie, the thread is long since inactive)
And I doubt that hiding those emails will have much practical impact on getting less spam. (people often use NOSPAM type emails anyway)
You may indeed be one of those people, and I know from personal experience that those people are really great. However, I can also tell you from personal experience that there just aren't enough like you.
You simply can't make it as a full-time coder on a begware basis -- ask any coder with a "donate" button, you'll see. Sure there are exceptions -- but mostly from corporate sponsorship for mega projects like Apache, Firefox, etc.
The person is refering to my article here (click the "free day pass" for the full text -- fwiw, the "coping isn't cool" title itself wasn't written by me, that's by Salon).
Dont forget that the EFF used to suggest that the RIAA should be suing infringers. And their p2p solution hinges on the silly notion that *almost all* rightsholders will all of sudden voluntarily license their work, and *almost all* downloaders will all of sudden volutarily pay.
If you prefer that, then you prefer something that makes even less sense than what we have now.
I'm not pissed about the attitude, I just think it's counterproductive.
It's certainly true that the core Andromeda code isn't directly modifiable -- thought it is modifiable via separate prefs & skin files. There are a number of reasons for that, but I don't want to clutter up the thread going into Andromeda details.
However, you should take care to note that this poster seems to be implying that, had Andromeda been GPL, that then he would have paid. Do you really believe that?
No, he isn't going to pay if the code is not GPL, and he isn't going to pay if it is. He just wants stuff for nothing.
SO, in the context of a thread about trying to make a living as a self-employed coder, he is irrelevant (apart from observing his somewhat typical hostile attitude).
This reply to my post (just above it) perfectly demonstrates what it can be like.
So here I am, trying to pay my own way -- and the response isn't "no thanks, it's not for me" -- it's this weird and totally unnecessary hostility.
I'm used to it, and I know that people like this don't generally contribute much (GPL or otherwise), but for a new coder getting started, people like this can be a big bummer.
It's not easy -- you have to stoop to doing stuff like adding gratuitous links to your Slashdot posts.
This isn't going to be a popular sentiment here, but I'd say that the GPL and P2P generally make it tougher to make a living.
Accommodating "high traffic" that is mostly bandwidth intensive is quite a different problem than accommodating traffic that is database intensive.
For example, I keep an old box wired to my stereo and I can use any other box to control it via Remote Desktop (same thing should work with XP's built-in Terminal Server, VNC, PCanywhere, etc.)
SO, on my Wi-Fi laptop, I open a remote desktop window, and when I click play, it plays out my stereo. The cool thing is that it works with any audio source. Same trick should work with TV cards etc.
And, fwiw, I make a Web-app for PHP or ASP (Andromeda) for playing MP3s, OGGs, etc over the Web.
Time to mention CivicSpace Labs, a project started by Zach Rosen who had been with the Dean campaign (along with a few others who I don't know).
Quoting from the site:
"CivicSpace Labs is a funded continuation of the DeanSpace project. We are veterans of the Dean campaign web-effort and are now building the tool-set of our dreams. We are busily completing work on CivicSpace, a grassroots organizing platform that empowers collective action inside communities and cohesively connects remote groups of supporters."
For starters, it's been around long before the term "blog" was coined.
Just wondering if others here think it's weird when Slashdot is called a blog.
And what'll wean us from nuclear power?
It wasn't all that long ago that the EFF suggested that the entertainment industry should be suing infringers.
Now that we've veered off onto neutrinos, let me point out how unbelievably cool neutrino detectors are. Start your journey via Google Images.
Basically, you need .m3u (audio/x-mpegurl) mapped to a player that can handle Ogg, most often Winamp.
The main problem with Ogg as a "general public" format (as opposed to a "private collection" format) is that the general public still isn't ogg'ed -- but that matters less with a private collection.
The Mars rovers continue to do an amazing job. Send in the robots!
I guess it wasn't so clear to me either.
Was it a paid placement? Fark went through a bit of a brouhaha when it turned out some of their stories were paid placements.
One interesting thing is that she certainly communicates her needs. For her, crying that is accompanied by head-nods and one foot kicking means "I'm hungry" (and, yes, there's quite a lot of crying with head-nods and foot kicks ;).
What's interesting is that she had that behavior almost as soon as she was born -- and I don't think every kid does the same thing.
Point is that it seems like she was born with a bit of language (mixed verbal + sign) but that it's not the same languge other kids are born with -- I think each has his/her own.
Verbally, she'll now stick out her tongue when I do, but she doesn't seem to even speak "babytalk" yet -- mostly cries and cooes...
It's fun stuff!
But they're mollusks, which means they branched off at something like a clam.
So, it's interesting wonder how they wound up with eyes too.
But the NYT site uses popups! Won't Firefox block 'em? ;)