Virgin and HMV still do some ludicrous prices (a la 10 years ago; in fact, prices were creeping higher so that the cost of the average full-price non-chart CD had probably inched over 15 pounds towards the end of the nineties). However, bear in mind;
(a) They always have a sale on; if the CD you want isn't in that sale, check out
(b) Fopp, who have some stuff extremely cheap. If they don't have it cheap, try
(c) Music Zone, another 'discount' chain, or
(d) Check out online prices. Plus, you can always buy it
(e) Secondhand.
The supermarkets do sell some stuff quite 'cheap', as you say. You can get a good deal on mainstream stuff more than a few months old; just don't expect to find an import CD of Nick Drake rarities, or whatever.
In short, you can still see the desire to milk tha market in the way that went on ten years ago (when the CD was well-established, but *surprise* prices hadn't come down from their initial high level), but look around, and you can usually pick up the CD you want for less than a tenner, and often dirt-cheap if you're willing to wait for it to appear in a sale.
And it's definitely notable that DVDs can generally be had for less than the grossly inflated 'regular' prices.
I mean, I saw 'Matrix Revolutions' on sale for 10 UKP (double disc) or 7.50 UKP (single disc), and I still haven't bought it. Mind you, that's because it's a shit film I wouldn't even give house-space to if it wasn't for the previous two.
Was that the same Jim Sachs that did the CDTV graphics?
If so, I agree with you, but for a different reason; the CDTV had a really attractive boot screen (with spinning 'CDTV' logo) and CD-playing software; both of which were far nicer (and easier to use) than the crappy Playstation (PS1) graphics for the same things.
I think he complained about what they did to them on the CD32 (looks like they took the same graphics and modified them, though I've never used the CD32 much; anyway, they aren't as good). His complaint wasn't that they replaced them, but that they replaced them with something he would have rejected from one of his own students.
BTW, I never used Aegis Animator; once I got Brilliance, I stuck with that.
"legit adware" Error... does not compute... How can something that hijacks your computer to shove advertisements in your face ever be legitimate, backed by a company or not?
If they were totally upfront about what their program did in every (reasonable) respect, and didn't pull any nasty stunts like not uninstalling properly, then they would have every right to be considered "legit adware".
BTW, being able to intimidate someone legally does not necessarily make something "legit".
"Here's the attachment you asked for. It'll make your PC's power supply behave oddly, and cause your penis to get electromagnetically stimulated, and grow another five inches in just three weeks!!!
Plus, we have to mention cialis, because.... well, all spam has to. It's the law, you know."
A "basic human right" is *not* the same as a "constitutional right".
There's a lot of stuff in the American constitution that I think *should* be considered as basic human rights. The right to bear arms isn't one of them.
Of course, we could have an interesting discussion about what "rights" really are anyway, but I think the distinction above is clear, nevertheless.
My sister told me about one lady she met who bought a broken VCR for a dollar or two at a garage sale and then returned it to MallWart for a full refund of the original price.
How far can you take that? Someone elsewhere mentioned that WalMart would take back *anything*, so you could get a 25-year old Betamax machine for a dollar, and return it for its original price, which would be something like $1000 (yep; in this case, the older the better).
Hang on.... that's the missing step in the "1... 2... 3. Profit!" meme!
Bingo. Reminds me of a comment I made in response to someone who said "If they paid employees a decent wage, they wouldn't steal stationery".
What would be the value of stationery that the average employee could typically get away with stealing? Almost certainly far less than it would cost to increase their wages by enough to have an effect.
If I was an amoral employer, the choice would be a no-brainer. I'd bite the cost of the stationery as a minor expense anyday.
Though, the cash does display items using abreviations and other weird short forms to fit it on the line. I've seen items scan simply as "12 pack" or "toy", which isn't descriptive in the least.
Check this classic out from "The Devil's DP Dictionary", via the Linux fortune cookie program:-
curtation, n.:
The enforced compression of a string in the fixed-length field
environment.
The problem of fitting extremely variable-length strings such as names,
addresses, and item descriptions into fixed-length records is no trivial
matter. Neglect of the subtle art of curtation has probably alienated more
people than any other aspect of data processing. You order Mozart's "Don
Giovanni" from your record club, and they invoice you $24.95 for MOZ DONG.
The witless mapping of the sublime onto the ridiculous! Equally puzzling is
the curtation that produces the same eight characters, THE BEST, whether you
order "The Best of Wagner", "The Best of Schubert", or "The Best of the Turds".
Similarly, wine lovers buying from computerized wineries twirl their glasses,
check their delivery notes, and inform their friends, "A rather innocent,
possibly overtruncated CAB SAUV 69 TAL." The squeezing of fruit into 10
columns has yielded such memorable obscenities as COX OR PIP. The examples
cited are real, and the curtational methodology which produced them is still
with us.
MOZ DONG n.
Curtation of Don Giovanni by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and Lorenzo da
Ponte, as performed by the computerized billing ensemble of the Internat'l
Preview Society, Great Neck (sic), N.Y.
-- Stan Kelly-Bootle, "The Devil's DP Dictionary"
> Let? They don't have to let me.
> Self defense is a basic human right.
That as may be, you can't automatically get "I have the right to own a gun" from "I have the right to defend myself."
Unless, of course, you accept that people have the "right" to carry massive fuckoff knives, or own thermonuclear weapons for the same reason.
Yeah, it *is* the most OTT example I could think of, and it's not an anti-gun argument in itself; if Americans want to allow people to carry guns to defend themselves, that's their choice.
But your argument is still flawed. The right to self-defense either implies *nothing* about the type of weapon (if any) you may carry to defend yourself with, or it implies you may carry *any* weapon.
And if we want to bring 'reasonable force' into it, one man's reasonable force is another man's unacceptable risk. As I said, your society's choice, but it's a *choice* and not a simple step of logic.
Have to agree; the PC was pretty risible until Windows 95, and suffered from having to retain compatibility with a design originally based on a processor which had *already* been derived through several generations, and had stuff in common with the original 4004. Sheesh.
Though, be fair to the Apple II; it came out in 1977, and it was the first *consumer* PC. I mean, I can cut it a lot of slack for that.
You thought the CDTV was ugly? Don't see that. Looked like a fairly standard piece of early-90s consumer electronics (black was the standard colour for consumer electronics until some point in the mid-to-late 1990s; personally, I like silver- although I'm bored of it- but a cheap silver finish looks *way* worse than black).
As for the CD32, it was indeed dark grey. It was also fugly.
I mean, it looked like a really cheap (and cheaply-made) knock-off of the Sega Mega-Drive/Genesis. That having been said, it was actually selling quite well (at least in the UK, and probably some other countries; can't see it being such a success in the US as the Amiga wasn't popular there circa 1993/94). Some people would claim that the CD32 was a failure because C= went bankrupt, but it was probably one of the few things they were getting right (even if it was just a repackaged A1200 cash-cow).
You're right in the sense that most people would call it white (at least the A1200; the A600 looks more beige, though that could be the photo- I definitely remember it being much paler than the A500).
I'd still say it was off-white (an AC elsewhere confirms this), because a totally 'white' plastic- as in, put a piece of white paper beside it, and it's the same colour- would look horrible.
And personally I think the A600s biggest strength was is cool design. Sooo much Computer in sooo little space. Cute. And it's not really beige, it USED to be a shade of white.;-)
Well, it came out five years after the A500; considering it was no better specced (okay; better in some areas, but poorer in others- balances out, but it should have had at *least* an A1200 spec to compete ('Red Queen' moving forward to stand still) and compensate for the fact that it wasn't too hardware-compatible with A500 stuff), they should have had no problems in fitting the technology in.
And I'd forgotten about the colour; well, it *was* beige, just a lighter, more creamy shade than the greyish beige of the A500 (if it had actually been white in that type of moulded plastic, it would have looked incredibly nasty).
The people most likely to care are those who *know* the situation, your hypothetical 30-year old Joe Sixpack might get nostalgic about his old C64 or Amiga, but realistically, C= is a company from the past and doesn't have that much cachet nowadays.
I don't think Commodore t-shirts will ever be fashionable in the way that Atari t-shirts became a couple of years back.
Actually, the one thing that pisses me off about the Atari 'resurrection' is the gratuitous changing of the logo. The original was an absolute design classic; either the fuji on its own, or with the fuji and 'ATARI' name underneath.
Hasbro did their own stupid variant when they owned it, now Infogrames have decided to alter the fuji itself (UGLY!), then stick it in the middle of the 'ATARI' name (where it loses impact, IMHO).
The best reason I can think of for doing this is some tosser of a design consultant justifying his fee. Scum.
IMHO, none of the Amigas ever *looked* cool. They all came in beige, which was boring even then (irony of ironies, the now 'anti-beige' Apple probably kick-started beige-fashion when they chose it as a sensible colour for their Apple II). Neither the pizza boxes nor the A500/A600/A1200 looked that good (*); the Atari ST (grey, angled function keys) looked better, IMHO, though it wasn't as good a machine.
The 68000-based Amigas were great in their day, but they'd probably seem crude as hell if you fired them up now, and not all that slick.
(*) Okay, the A600 was kind of cute. But it was still beige, and in every other sense, risible.
With respect, is this intended as a serious commercial product, or is it just something for the hobbyists? If the former, *why* should the rest of us care about Amiga OS 4.0?
(Yes; I know the Amiga OS beat the heck out of Windows/DOS in its day. I was one of those defending it. But now it's dissociated from the hardware, and OSs have changed a lot in the past 10 years.)
The problem with the Amiga sites is that they all seem designed for people already familiar with the current situation- i.e. die-hard Amiga fans, and from the outside, all I'm seeing is a confusing mess of products, developments and intellectual property being shuffled around, appearing and disappearing.
Branding is such a scam... Like putting the name Commodore on any crap box is going to make it magically like a C64 or an Amiga..
Which begs the question; WTF is happening with the Amiga legacy at the moment?
I stopped following Amiga developments circa 1995, when the new Amiga owners wanted to re-release the ageing A1200 for 100 pounds *more* than it had been selling for when C= went bankrupt. (Even then I knew the difference between trying to get the Amiga back into the mainstream, and squeezing the last drops of cash from the fanbase).
From thereon, it seems the story gets very complicated, as the Amiga OS and hardware rights got sold off, split up, sold off again, and...
Okay; back to what you said. What the *hell* does Amiga anywhere (seemingly a built-on-Java ME games environment, or something) have to do with the Amiga?!
Quite frankly, it seems to me that people *will* buy because of the name; or at least some Amiga fans will (is this trying to con the hardcore, or going for the Amiga nostalgia market?).
Another thing; what on earth is happening with Amiga OS 4.0? Version 3.0 came out in the early 1990s, version 4.0 has been gone on about for *ages*. I don't see how it can have any relevance now; things have changed too much in the intervening years, and it seems to be used to string die-hard Amiga fanatics along.
BTW, I agree with you about Napster. It's just another paid service that happens to have the rights to that name, but the way it was reported in the news was some kind of corporate rebirth. Annoying...
I wonder if this means we'll get C64 games on those little joystick-that-plugs-into-the-tv things that are so popular nowadays.
They just did that a couple of weeks back. You search Slashdot for it; I'm too lazy:)
Personally, I want an Atari 800/XL/XE version, preferably hackable (and certainly the 'real thing' from an end-user POV, none of that rewritten nonsense that the Intellivision device got slagged off for).
Damn! I just figured out why the CIA were so willing to pay me thousands of dollars for an old VHS copy of Flash Gordon.
Okay, I'll admit that scribbling out the title and replacing it with "secrEt martiaN terrorist footage" was a little disingenuous, but I hadn't expected them to believe me.
Expect news of an "Anti-Hot Hail Defence System" and "Unprecedented Solar Eclipse prediction network" to be coming from the US government some time soon.
Don't forget that this is the company that uses a very badly retouched Apple G4 Titanium Powerbook in its AMD64 adverts. I was waling down a street in Glasgow last week and saw it in a bus shelter. You could even see where the *artist* had tried to cover the Apple logo on the lid.
'Artist'? You sure it wasn't just an instance of the rare 'geek-ned' putting their socially destructive tendencies to more profitable use?
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Virgin and HMV still do some ludicrous prices (a la 10 years ago; in fact, prices were creeping higher so that the cost of the average full-price non-chart CD had probably inched over 15 pounds towards the end of the nineties). However, bear in mind;
(a) They always have a sale on; if the CD you want isn't in that sale, check out
(b) Fopp, who have some stuff extremely cheap. If they don't have it cheap, try
(c) Music Zone, another 'discount' chain, or
(d) Check out online prices. Plus, you can always buy it
(e) Secondhand.
The supermarkets do sell some stuff quite 'cheap', as you say. You can get a good deal on mainstream stuff more than a few months old; just don't expect to find an import CD of Nick Drake rarities, or whatever.
In short, you can still see the desire to milk tha market in the way that went on ten years ago (when the CD was well-established, but *surprise* prices hadn't come down from their initial high level), but look around, and you can usually pick up the CD you want for less than a tenner, and often dirt-cheap if you're willing to wait for it to appear in a sale.
And it's definitely notable that DVDs can generally be had for less than the grossly inflated 'regular' prices.
I mean, I saw 'Matrix Revolutions' on sale for 10 UKP (double disc) or 7.50 UKP (single disc), and I still haven't bought it. Mind you, that's because it's a shit film I wouldn't even give house-space to if it wasn't for the previous two.
Was that the same Jim Sachs that did the CDTV graphics?
If so, I agree with you, but for a different reason; the CDTV had a really attractive boot screen (with spinning 'CDTV' logo) and CD-playing software; both of which were far nicer (and easier to use) than the crappy Playstation (PS1) graphics for the same things.
I think he complained about what they did to them on the CD32 (looks like they took the same graphics and modified them, though I've never used the CD32 much; anyway, they aren't as good). His complaint wasn't that they replaced them, but that they replaced them with something he would have rejected from one of his own students.
BTW, I never used Aegis Animator; once I got Brilliance, I stuck with that.
"legit adware" Error... does not compute... How can something that hijacks your computer to shove advertisements in your face ever be legitimate, backed by a company or not?
If they were totally upfront about what their program did in every (reasonable) respect, and didn't pull any nasty stunts like not uninstalling properly, then they would have every right to be considered "legit adware".
BTW, being able to intimidate someone legally does not necessarily make something "legit".
IFF is a container format, so it's like saying you're watching an AVI. What type of IFF animation?
Dunno. I just encode them by hand (draw them with the mouse) using Deluxe Paint III.
Which is great if you don't mind Keanu Reeves in Matrix Revolutions looking like a deformed pygmy that was attacked with a rake.
On the other hand, 'encoding' this way improves the quality of the acting in MR...
Is that for real? Brilliant!
Next week's spam/trojan:-
"Here's the attachment you asked for. It'll make your PC's power supply behave oddly, and cause your penis to get electromagnetically stimulated, and grow another five inches in just three weeks!!!
Plus, we have to mention cialis, because.... well, all spam has to. It's the law, you know."
Screw CDXL, I watch all my movies on an Amiga A500 encoded as IFF animations.
And they'd damned well better fit on an 880K floppy!
A "basic human right" is *not* the same as a "constitutional right".
There's a lot of stuff in the American constitution that I think *should* be considered as basic human rights. The right to bear arms isn't one of them.
Of course, we could have an interesting discussion about what "rights" really are anyway, but I think the distinction above is clear, nevertheless.
My sister told me about one lady she met who bought a broken VCR for a dollar or two at a garage sale and then returned it to MallWart for a full refund of the original price.
How far can you take that? Someone elsewhere mentioned that WalMart would take back *anything*, so you could get a 25-year old Betamax machine for a dollar, and return it for its original price, which would be something like $1000 (yep; in this case, the older the better).
Hang on.... that's the missing step in the "1... 2... 3. Profit!" meme!
Bingo. Reminds me of a comment I made in response to someone who said "If they paid employees a decent wage, they wouldn't steal stationery".
What would be the value of stationery that the average employee could typically get away with stealing? Almost certainly far less than it would cost to increase their wages by enough to have an effect.
If I was an amoral employer, the choice would be a no-brainer. I'd bite the cost of the stationery as a minor expense anyday.
Though, the cash does display items using abreviations and other weird short forms to fit it on the line. I've seen items scan simply as "12 pack" or "toy", which isn't descriptive in the least.
Check this classic out from "The Devil's DP Dictionary", via the Linux fortune cookie program:-
curtation, n.:
The enforced compression of a string in the fixed-length field environment.
The problem of fitting extremely variable-length strings such as names, addresses, and item descriptions into fixed-length records is no trivial matter. Neglect of the subtle art of curtation has probably alienated more people than any other aspect of data processing. You order Mozart's "Don Giovanni" from your record club, and they invoice you $24.95 for MOZ DONG. The witless mapping of the sublime onto the ridiculous! Equally puzzling is the curtation that produces the same eight characters, THE BEST, whether you order "The Best of Wagner", "The Best of Schubert", or "The Best of the Turds". Similarly, wine lovers buying from computerized wineries twirl their glasses, check their delivery notes, and inform their friends, "A rather innocent, possibly overtruncated CAB SAUV 69 TAL." The squeezing of fruit into 10 columns has yielded such memorable obscenities as COX OR PIP. The examples cited are real, and the curtational methodology which produced them is still with us.
MOZ DONG n.
Curtation of Don Giovanni by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and Lorenzo da Ponte, as performed by the computerized billing ensemble of the Internat'l Preview Society, Great Neck (sic), N.Y.
-- Stan Kelly-Bootle, "The Devil's DP Dictionary"
>> And they let you own/use a gun?
> Let? They don't have to let me.
> Self defense is a basic human right.
That as may be, you can't automatically get "I have the right to own a gun" from "I have the right to defend myself."
Unless, of course, you accept that people have the "right" to carry massive fuckoff knives, or own thermonuclear weapons for the same reason.
Yeah, it *is* the most OTT example I could think of, and it's not an anti-gun argument in itself; if Americans want to allow people to carry guns to defend themselves, that's their choice.
But your argument is still flawed. The right to self-defense either implies *nothing* about the type of weapon (if any) you may carry to defend yourself with, or it implies you may carry *any* weapon.
And if we want to bring 'reasonable force' into it, one man's reasonable force is another man's unacceptable risk. As I said, your society's choice, but it's a *choice* and not a simple step of logic.
I remember when they tried to force me to use a TI graphing calculator in middle school.
Uh... that would be a private school, right?
I'd damn well hope it wasn't a state school.
Have to agree; the PC was pretty risible until Windows 95, and suffered from having to retain compatibility with a design originally based on a processor which had *already* been derived through several generations, and had stuff in common with the original 4004. Sheesh.
Though, be fair to the Apple II; it came out in 1977, and it was the first *consumer* PC. I mean, I can cut it a lot of slack for that.
and one black one (hello CDTV. God you're ugly.)
You thought the CDTV was ugly? Don't see that. Looked like a fairly standard piece of early-90s consumer electronics (black was the standard colour for consumer electronics until some point in the mid-to-late 1990s; personally, I like silver- although I'm bored of it- but a cheap silver finish looks *way* worse than black).
As for the CD32, it was indeed dark grey. It was also fugly.
I mean, it looked like a really cheap (and cheaply-made) knock-off of the Sega Mega-Drive/Genesis. That having been said, it was actually selling quite well (at least in the UK, and probably some other countries; can't see it being such a success in the US as the Amiga wasn't popular there circa 1993/94). Some people would claim that the CD32 was a failure because C= went bankrupt, but it was probably one of the few things they were getting right (even if it was just a repackaged A1200 cash-cow).
You're right in the sense that most people would call it white (at least the A1200; the A600 looks more beige, though that could be the photo- I definitely remember it being much paler than the A500).
:)
I'd still say it was off-white (an AC elsewhere confirms this), because a totally 'white' plastic- as in, put a piece of white paper beside it, and it's the same colour- would look horrible.
But... ah, what does it matter?
And personally I think the A600s biggest strength was is cool design. Sooo much Computer in sooo little space. Cute. And it's not really beige, it USED to be a shade of white. ;-)
Well, it came out five years after the A500; considering it was no better specced (okay; better in some areas, but poorer in others- balances out, but it should have had at *least* an A1200 spec to compete ('Red Queen' moving forward to stand still) and compensate for the fact that it wasn't too hardware-compatible with A500 stuff), they should have had no problems in fitting the technology in.
And I'd forgotten about the colour; well, it *was* beige, just a lighter, more creamy shade than the greyish beige of the A500 (if it had actually been white in that type of moulded plastic, it would have looked incredibly nasty).
The question is, "would you care?"
The people most likely to care are those who *know* the situation, your hypothetical 30-year old Joe Sixpack might get nostalgic about his old C64 or Amiga, but realistically, C= is a company from the past and doesn't have that much cachet nowadays.
I don't think Commodore t-shirts will ever be fashionable in the way that Atari t-shirts became a couple of years back.
Actually, the one thing that pisses me off about the Atari 'resurrection' is the gratuitous changing of the logo. The original was an absolute design classic; either the fuji on its own, or with the fuji and 'ATARI' name underneath.
Hasbro did their own stupid variant when they owned it, now Infogrames have decided to alter the fuji itself (UGLY!), then stick it in the middle of the 'ATARI' name (where it loses impact, IMHO).
The best reason I can think of for doing this is some tosser of a design consultant justifying his fee. Scum.
look cool in my living room
IMHO, none of the Amigas ever *looked* cool. They all came in beige, which was boring even then (irony of ironies, the now 'anti-beige' Apple probably kick-started beige-fashion when they chose it as a sensible colour for their Apple II). Neither the pizza boxes nor the A500/A600/A1200 looked that good (*); the Atari ST (grey, angled function keys) looked better, IMHO, though it wasn't as good a machine.
The 68000-based Amigas were great in their day, but they'd probably seem crude as hell if you fired them up now, and not all that slick.
(*) Okay, the A600 was kind of cute. But it was still beige, and in every other sense, risible.
With respect, is this intended as a serious commercial product, or is it just something for the hobbyists? If the former, *why* should the rest of us care about Amiga OS 4.0?
(Yes; I know the Amiga OS beat the heck out of Windows/DOS in its day. I was one of those defending it. But now it's dissociated from the hardware, and OSs have changed a lot in the past 10 years.)
The problem with the Amiga sites is that they all seem designed for people already familiar with the current situation- i.e. die-hard Amiga fans, and from the outside, all I'm seeing is a confusing mess of products, developments and intellectual property being shuffled around, appearing and disappearing.
Branding is such a scam... Like putting the name Commodore on any crap box is going to make it magically like a C64 or an Amiga..
Which begs the question; WTF is happening with the Amiga legacy at the moment?
I stopped following Amiga developments circa 1995, when the new Amiga owners wanted to re-release the ageing A1200 for 100 pounds *more* than it had been selling for when C= went bankrupt. (Even then I knew the difference between trying to get the Amiga back into the mainstream, and squeezing the last drops of cash from the fanbase).
From thereon, it seems the story gets very complicated, as the Amiga OS and hardware rights got sold off, split up, sold off again, and...
Okay; back to what you said. What the *hell* does Amiga anywhere (seemingly a built-on-Java ME games environment, or something) have to do with the Amiga?!
Quite frankly, it seems to me that people *will* buy because of the name; or at least some Amiga fans will (is this trying to con the hardcore, or going for the Amiga nostalgia market?).
Another thing; what on earth is happening with Amiga OS 4.0? Version 3.0 came out in the early 1990s, version 4.0 has been gone on about for *ages*. I don't see how it can have any relevance now; things have changed too much in the intervening years, and it seems to be used to string die-hard Amiga fanatics along.
BTW, I agree with you about Napster. It's just another paid service that happens to have the rights to that name, but the way it was reported in the news was some kind of corporate rebirth. Annoying...
I wonder if this means we'll get C64 games on those little joystick-that-plugs-into-the-tv things that are so popular nowadays.
:)
They just did that a couple of weeks back. You search Slashdot for it; I'm too lazy
Personally, I want an Atari 800/XL/XE version, preferably hackable (and certainly the 'real thing' from an end-user POV, none of that rewritten nonsense that the Intellivision device got slagged off for).
But Mars has WMDs!
Damn! I just figured out why the CIA were so willing to pay me thousands of dollars for an old VHS copy of Flash Gordon.
Okay, I'll admit that scribbling out the title and replacing it with "secrEt martiaN terrorist footage" was a little disingenuous, but I hadn't expected them to believe me.
Expect news of an "Anti-Hot Hail Defence System" and "Unprecedented Solar Eclipse prediction network" to be coming from the US government some time soon.
>> In the beginning, the ISS was supposed to be a great international effort to promote science in orbit, among other things.
;-)
> Actually, in the beginning it was supposed to be an American space station.
Perhaps they didn't want to do it themselves after they figured out the acronymn for 'American Space Station'?
Don't forget that this is the company that uses a very badly retouched Apple G4 Titanium Powerbook in its AMD64 adverts. I was waling down a street in Glasgow last week and saw it in a bus shelter. You could even see where the *artist* had tried to cover the Apple logo on the lid.
'Artist'? You sure it wasn't just an instance of the rare 'geek-ned' putting their socially destructive tendencies to more profitable use?
Someone is reputed to have said "Nobody would ever need more than 640K of memory"!
Nope; Gates never said that. If you wish to disagree, please cite the original source.