I read that there is a fairly large difference between the size of a gcc compiled instruction set (100k) and the XLC compiled instruction set of the same origin (700k). Presumably they are doing some pretty impressive unrolling and inlining.
I got that at this dicussion here .
located here says that people are seeing nearly a twofold increase in both G4's and G5's. I lifted this next spec directly from their discussion:
(XL improvement over Absoft and GCC 3.3):
Type of Code G4 G5
Scalar +70% +210%
Vector +40% +70%
_If this holds that places his _2.0GHz G5 (single)_=254 at _787__
Note also that the _P4 2.66_ is _255_.
This is a big deal. Let's just hope they use this to compile the OS.
I think we are rapidly reaching a point where the heat and pressure of all geeks in the (relative) cole proximity of earth are reaching critical mass and will soon spawn a second big bang. This will be seen through the new CBS (Cosmic Background Stickyness) which will leave all objects slightly tacky to the touch.
Darl's siting on a chaise lounge, drinking a forty and gazing around at his spitting chicken Camaro on cinderblocks in his front yard, he's talking to his sons, Darl, his brother Darl and his other brother Darl.
"So, this one time ah wuz writing some proprietary code fer my operating system when along came this big ol fish and took mah bait. That damn thing had to be taken a good 80 lines of code. Real purty code it wuz, too."
"paw, I thought you said it wuz 200."
"That's what ah meant"
The other brother Darl looks confused, "Ah thought you said it was ah couple thousand"
"Boy, you questioning me? Ah said it wuz a millions line of code. I mean it wuz HUGE!"
Old Maw Redmond calls from the cabin, "What wuz fish doing in that lake anyway? That's our watering hole, not theres. We'll just have to start washing yer britches in that there lake, that'll clear em out. Now git up her and get yer vittles."
And in the darkness of the lake a giant blue beast stirs.
but they are in lockstep with the corporations. This is what happens when people are elected with money that has strings attatched, as all modern campaign contributions seem to do. When McKinley was president, it was considered corruption. Now it's called fundraising. Think I'm reactionary? Look at Martha Stewart she profitted $48,000. That's fricken chump change. Now look at Kenneth Laye. He and his cronies raped how many millions of people's bank accounts. Who just got indicted? Martha. Who contributed to the GOP? Enron.
A bit off topic, perhaps, but it's all part of a much larger problem.
does not necessarily need to be used throughout the system. I can see where they'd use it to connect the two processors in a dual chip computer but let the front-side bus be something different.
Though it is interesting that they picked the name "Smeagol" for the OS revision that allows thee 970 to be compatible, because the whole idea behind HT is to allow all the chips to speak the same language so nothing has to be translated from chip to chip. "One bus to bind them" perhaps?
So Apple is trying to prove to the music companies that it's software is trustworthy. Musci companies notice that anyone can stream tunes ffrom anywhere with iTunes. They also notice that within two weeks someone has come up with a way to take those streamed music feeds and convert them into MP3/s. They get pissed. Apple gets egg on their faces. This program is counterproductive. If we want to convince music companies that the computer is a viable distribution model and that we want those distributed files fairly unfettered by copy protection, than this goes against all that. It makes Apple look bad, and we're at the point where Apple is really our best hope for a scheme which we like. This needs to catch on, or else something worse (Microsoft) comes along and takes over another branch of the internet.
Sad thing is, I like the idea of being able to stream across the internet. Leave it to script kiddies to ruin it for everyone.
Apple has the most intuitive company webpage I've seen in a long while. You are never more then three clicks away from information. Their new store, on the other hand, is much less intuitive than it used to be. I'm not sure why they changed it into the more cluttered interface. Look at Dell's page, or Compaq, or Sun... icky.
that they keep the 5 gig and drop the price down to $200. That would bring the mp3 jukebox revolution to an even larger market. I know a lot of people who choke at $300 but would jump on one in a hearbeat if the prices was lowered to around the $200 mark. Might not be have high profit margins, but it would get lots of Apple equipment into lots of hands which is part of what Apple is trying to do right now.
... and that is the space shuttle program itself. Too many variables, too inefficient and too easy to break. What is really needed is a fundamental rethinking of the space program. The shuttle is still useful as a "space truck", perhaps. But to use it to just jet people into space for scientific experiments is a huge waste of resources. They need something smaller, lighter, safer, and easier to maintain.
NASA is one major accident away from getting its program sacked completely. The shuttle it a ticking time bomb.
The same joke was told 20 times in the space of five minutes. Said one poster, "It was like we all had the same idea , boy was it freaky." The impetus of the bizarre occurrence of synchronicty was a story about Al Gore becoming a member of Apple's board of Directors. "I mean, what's the chances that we would all have the SAME idea at the SAME time, it's not like this was an obvious joke," said one poster who declined to be identified. Another was heard to whistle underneath his breath and say, "That's it, I believe in God now." The Vatican was unavailable for comment, but a low giggle was heard to emanate from the Holy Sees residence at roughly the same period. Commander Taco, upon hearing this said, near tears, "It's like we told a joke that mad the whole world laugh, AT THE SAME TIME!" In other news, the much-heralded cliche filter on slashdot crashed at roughly the same time, though it could not be confirmed if the two were related.
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would I want to install YDL. I can do everything I want in OS X now in a much friendlier operating system. Plus, now that I have an Apple X11 program I see fewer and fewer reasons. Moreover, when you buy an Apple you are paying a premium for the OS, why buy an apple when you could just buy a cheap box and install an x86 linux distro. Am I missing something?
But here's the thing I was trying to get across:
We're not getting any CD's, liner notes, ect., the record companies avoid manufacturing costs, and we are STILL paying a premium. That just doesn't make sense, particularly when they are not first to market OR priced competitively. When I can go out and get it for free, you have to be at least somewhat competitive. I'm sorry, but $1 per song just isn't worth it. Tell you what, just set up a pay-pal account for each artist and I will donate $.10 every tie I download a track. That's how much they'll probably end up getting with this scheme.
Aquisition is a wonderful app, one of the few shareware programs that I've found worthy of my money. Clean interface, stable, and results tend to be pretty good. I got "Kafka" by Manhatten Transfer a few days ago and that just shocked the hell out of me.
I'm as big of a Mac Zealot as you can get, but I think this too is doomed to failure. $.99 a song? Ripoff. This means that the average CD will still cost $10-$12 to download, and you don't get a CD, a jewel case, or liner notes. Legal music swapping will not catch on until it is significantly cheaper, like around $.25 or less. THAT is a good business model. I assume that this hinges on the record labels and that Apple is just performing as the middle man with these prices. I, for one, will still use Aquisition until the record companies stop gouging me.
Here's the real problem:
There is no doubt in my mind experienced computer users will find a way to work around Palladium schemes. But we are only a small segment of computer users. The reality is that this technology will restrict those who aren't computer savvy. The result still will be that the computer becomes far less egalitarian. And this is the real problem. This is a very basic argument about who controls information, who creates it and who uses it. While there will be exceptions, with Palladium shifts this troika decidedly towards big business and away from consumers. That is scary, and to my mind, downright Orwellian.
Okay, I'll bite at the troll bait...
First, him and haw as you will, but the release of Jaguar was a mogor release. The fact that there's only a small decimal increase doesn't change the fact that there were significant improvements in functionality and applications. M$ would have charged $500 for it.
Second, you assertion that the next upgrade will be $700 is utter bullshit. First I assume that you are talking about an unlimited licesne. What does M$ charge for that? Oh, right, they don't even offer that. The next upgrade will be 10.3 and I guarantee you it will be free. If you look at previous Apple OS release schedules you will discover that the time frame of paid/free releases hasn't changed that much. If it has changed a little, it is only because the improved architecture allows them to program more quickly. Unless you can show me a link that supports your claims, I'll chalk it up to blatant bitching for the sake of bitching.
OSX upgrades don't cost $1000 per computer. Keep in mind the unlimited license availability. Costs would go down significantly. Considering this, the burden of the upgrade price is Quark's. Funny, I can get InDesign with OSX for $300.
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I read that there is a fairly large difference between the size of a gcc compiled instruction set (100k) and the XLC compiled instruction set of the same origin (700k). Presumably they are doing some pretty impressive unrolling and inlining. I got that at this dicussion here .
Type of Code G4 G5
Scalar +70% +210%
Vector +40% +70%
If this holds that places his 2.0GHz G5 (single)=254 at 787
located here says that people are seeing nearly a twofold increase in both G4's and G5's. I lifted this next spec directly from their discussion: (XL improvement over Absoft and GCC 3.3): Type of Code G4 G5 Scalar +70% +210% Vector +40% +70% _If this holds that places his _2.0GHz G5 (single)_=254 at _787__ Note also that the _P4 2.66_ is _255_. This is a big deal. Let's just hope they use this to compile the OS.
I think we are rapidly reaching a point where the heat and pressure of all geeks in the (relative) cole proximity of earth are reaching critical mass and will soon spawn a second big bang. This will be seen through the new CBS (Cosmic Background Stickyness) which will leave all objects slightly tacky to the touch.
I personally like lobster termadora in a Hollandaise sauce and SCO.
Darl's siting on a chaise lounge, drinking a forty and gazing around at his spitting chicken Camaro on cinderblocks in his front yard, he's talking to his sons, Darl, his brother Darl and his other brother Darl. "So, this one time ah wuz writing some proprietary code fer my operating system when along came this big ol fish and took mah bait. That damn thing had to be taken a good 80 lines of code. Real purty code it wuz, too." "paw, I thought you said it wuz 200." "That's what ah meant" The other brother Darl looks confused, "Ah thought you said it was ah couple thousand" "Boy, you questioning me? Ah said it wuz a millions line of code. I mean it wuz HUGE!" Old Maw Redmond calls from the cabin, "What wuz fish doing in that lake anyway? That's our watering hole, not theres. We'll just have to start washing yer britches in that there lake, that'll clear em out. Now git up her and get yer vittles." And in the darkness of the lake a giant blue beast stirs.
but they are in lockstep with the corporations. This is what happens when people are elected with money that has strings attatched, as all modern campaign contributions seem to do. When McKinley was president, it was considered corruption. Now it's called fundraising. Think I'm reactionary? Look at Martha Stewart she profitted $48,000. That's fricken chump change. Now look at Kenneth Laye. He and his cronies raped how many millions of people's bank accounts. Who just got indicted? Martha. Who contributed to the GOP? Enron. A bit off topic, perhaps, but it's all part of a much larger problem.
does not necessarily need to be used throughout the system. I can see where they'd use it to connect the two processors in a dual chip computer but let the front-side bus be something different. Though it is interesting that they picked the name "Smeagol" for the OS revision that allows thee 970 to be compatible, because the whole idea behind HT is to allow all the chips to speak the same language so nothing has to be translated from chip to chip. "One bus to bind them" perhaps?
So Apple is trying to prove to the music companies that it's software is trustworthy. Musci companies notice that anyone can stream tunes ffrom anywhere with iTunes. They also notice that within two weeks someone has come up with a way to take those streamed music feeds and convert them into MP3/s. They get pissed. Apple gets egg on their faces. This program is counterproductive. If we want to convince music companies that the computer is a viable distribution model and that we want those distributed files fairly unfettered by copy protection, than this goes against all that. It makes Apple look bad, and we're at the point where Apple is really our best hope for a scheme which we like. This needs to catch on, or else something worse (Microsoft) comes along and takes over another branch of the internet. Sad thing is, I like the idea of being able to stream across the internet. Leave it to script kiddies to ruin it for everyone.
Apple has the most intuitive company webpage I've seen in a long while. You are never more then three clicks away from information. Their new store, on the other hand, is much less intuitive than it used to be. I'm not sure why they changed it into the more cluttered interface. Look at Dell's page, or Compaq, or Sun... icky.
This might be the game to cure my incontinance.
I know, but I want something from Apple in this price range, as Apple is the defacto leader in mp3 jukeboxs sales-wise and mindshare-wise.
that they keep the 5 gig and drop the price down to $200. That would bring the mp3 jukebox revolution to an even larger market. I know a lot of people who choke at $300 but would jump on one in a hearbeat if the prices was lowered to around the $200 mark. Might not be have high profit margins, but it would get lots of Apple equipment into lots of hands which is part of what Apple is trying to do right now.
... and that is the space shuttle program itself. Too many variables, too inefficient and too easy to break. What is really needed is a fundamental rethinking of the space program. The shuttle is still useful as a "space truck", perhaps. But to use it to just jet people into space for scientific experiments is a huge waste of resources. They need something smaller, lighter, safer, and easier to maintain. NASA is one major accident away from getting its program sacked completely. The shuttle it a ticking time bomb.
The same joke was told 20 times in the space of five minutes. Said one poster, "It was like we all had the same idea , boy was it freaky." The impetus of the bizarre occurrence of synchronicty was a story about Al Gore becoming a member of Apple's board of Directors. "I mean, what's the chances that we would all have the SAME idea at the SAME time, it's not like this was an obvious joke," said one poster who declined to be identified. Another was heard to whistle underneath his breath and say, "That's it, I believe in God now." The Vatican was unavailable for comment, but a low giggle was heard to emanate from the Holy Sees residence at roughly the same period. Commander Taco, upon hearing this said, near tears, "It's like we told a joke that mad the whole world laugh, AT THE SAME TIME!" In other news, the much-heralded cliche filter on slashdot crashed at roughly the same time, though it could not be confirmed if the two were related.
1) Nice cut and paste. then, in your sig: "Bad artists copy. Good artists steal." Huh. Irony meter just went off the scale.
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would I want to install YDL. I can do everything I want in OS X now in a much friendlier operating system. Plus, now that I have an Apple X11 program I see fewer and fewer reasons. Moreover, when you buy an Apple you are paying a premium for the OS, why buy an apple when you could just buy a cheap box and install an x86 linux distro. Am I missing something?
But here's the thing I was trying to get across: We're not getting any CD's, liner notes, ect., the record companies avoid manufacturing costs, and we are STILL paying a premium. That just doesn't make sense, particularly when they are not first to market OR priced competitively. When I can go out and get it for free, you have to be at least somewhat competitive. I'm sorry, but $1 per song just isn't worth it. Tell you what, just set up a pay-pal account for each artist and I will donate $.10 every tie I download a track. That's how much they'll probably end up getting with this scheme.
Aquisition is a wonderful app, one of the few shareware programs that I've found worthy of my money. Clean interface, stable, and results tend to be pretty good. I got "Kafka" by Manhatten Transfer a few days ago and that just shocked the hell out of me.
Well, Apple will be the first adopter again, apparently. At least they're innovating. Is ACC much better quality wise? Why use this format?
I'm as big of a Mac Zealot as you can get, but I think this too is doomed to failure. $.99 a song? Ripoff. This means that the average CD will still cost $10-$12 to download, and you don't get a CD, a jewel case, or liner notes. Legal music swapping will not catch on until it is significantly cheaper, like around $.25 or less. THAT is a good business model. I assume that this hinges on the record labels and that Apple is just performing as the middle man with these prices. I, for one, will still use Aquisition until the record companies stop gouging me.
Here's the real problem: There is no doubt in my mind experienced computer users will find a way to work around Palladium schemes. But we are only a small segment of computer users. The reality is that this technology will restrict those who aren't computer savvy. The result still will be that the computer becomes far less egalitarian. And this is the real problem. This is a very basic argument about who controls information, who creates it and who uses it. While there will be exceptions, with Palladium shifts this troika decidedly towards big business and away from consumers. That is scary, and to my mind, downright Orwellian.
Will their next initiative be called ex-lax?
Wow, I'm really noticing a speed improvement. ical opens in one bounce and everything in general seems much more snappy. Very impressed.
Okay, I'll bite at the troll bait... First, him and haw as you will, but the release of Jaguar was a mogor release. The fact that there's only a small decimal increase doesn't change the fact that there were significant improvements in functionality and applications. M$ would have charged $500 for it. Second, you assertion that the next upgrade will be $700 is utter bullshit. First I assume that you are talking about an unlimited licesne. What does M$ charge for that? Oh, right, they don't even offer that. The next upgrade will be 10.3 and I guarantee you it will be free. If you look at previous Apple OS release schedules you will discover that the time frame of paid/free releases hasn't changed that much. If it has changed a little, it is only because the improved architecture allows them to program more quickly. Unless you can show me a link that supports your claims, I'll chalk it up to blatant bitching for the sake of bitching. OSX upgrades don't cost $1000 per computer. Keep in mind the unlimited license availability. Costs would go down significantly. Considering this, the burden of the upgrade price is Quark's. Funny, I can get InDesign with OSX for $300.