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I bought a Palm VIIx off ebay earlier in the year. Specifically for use with palm.net. Now it's "obsolete", but it's replacement is just a shinier version of the same thing, maybe a little faster. Same ram, same screen.
There's absolutely no reason for me to consider handing them more money unless they come out with a color version that has wireless, which doesn't seem likely. The only innovation on the Palm platform is being done by handspring and sony, right now.
They have to compete with thier own tech being done better by others.
And the high end models are almost as expensive as the Pocket windows devices ($500+ for a handheld??, not for me).
The Newton seems like a good in-between device to carry instead of a laptop, but they'd have to compete with cheap Palms and existing used Newtons on the cheap end and the "XP in a handheld" units on the high end. Plus it would have to un-steved, which is slightly less likely than ressurecting Elvis.
My expierence may be obsolete...
I seem to recall have to deal with fixed ram settings for each applicaion, but that was way back in 8.something and before days.
Who really has a choice? If you don't sign, you normally don't get the job. Ther may be a few oddball excpetions, but I've never heard of someone refusing to sign and still getting the job.
And I don't see anyone giving good argumants against these points. I don't see OS9 being as effcient with recourses as *nix, but that could be a option for websites that dont need big SMP servers but need security.
On another note, I don't see how this is news while the hacking of RIAA gets zero mention. (IMHO they're both news, but there's somethin' fishy about the blackout on submissions concerning the now well known incident)
I have been corrected in some of my assertions. Apparantly the software is bundled specifically with the superdrives, so it's not as tricky a manuver as I first thought, just heavy handed.
If they only wanted users of thier drives to use it, they should have only distributed it with thier drives. They made it part of the iTools suite, giving it to everyone who buys X. To pull this now is getting close to a bait and switch, but since it was free (as in beer), the injury is minimal.
Although, since the iTools are a big selling point of X, one could aruge that they are a part of the OS package and are therefore paid for. Then it really looks like a bait and switch, except the terms were there all along, buried in the EULA.
It's not like these people are trying to pirate anything, they're just trying to use the software they leaglly paid for (not counting the leeches who just bummed the disc from thier buddies).
All Apple is accomplishing is throwing more of thier karma capitol into the fire. The group of people this effects is small enough to not hurt Apple too much, even if they get pissed off and go elsewhere. My guess is that this is a knee-jerk reaction to what they percieved as a threat to thier control of the platform. A lot of people feel that such control is an necessary part of making the Mac different from other systems.
Before you call this a troll, consider this: What you you say if MS were to pull the same thing? (they dont make drives or editing software, it's just an illustration)
The only reason to keep them is fear of change.
Throw out the patents and simply stop people from outright copying code, which copyright handles nicely (and without needing any DMCA crapulence).
When patent and copyright merged into "IP", everything started going downhill.
It's fairly rare for someone to actually have the means to fight back against the patent/copyright cudgel. The massive cost of defending oneself in court means most people now cannot afford to do so. Right now, at least here in the US, we have a "guilty until proven innocent" civil legal system, as nobody can afford to fight back against the horde of lawyers. Also the patent wasn't actually overturned, the judges just refused to enforce it (same net result, but that wouldn't have happened if it were a small company). We really should be cheering these Prodigy guys for fighting back and not settleing. Any more good news I can ruin??
Few people seem to remember it now, but Laserdisc was quite popular with videophiles (a similar species to audiophiles). It didn't catch on with joe consumer, because it's only benefit was higher quality and it had the inconviences of higher price and no recording.
The masses don't really care enough about high quality to pay more or be inconvienced for it. For most people CDs and mp3s are "good enough".
Myself, while I can tell the difference and could probably afford a SACD setup, It's hard for me to justify the cost to myself. maybe when there are more titles available in stores that interest me.
And just where did you get those numbers? From some college professor or a leaflet? We consume a lot. (more than we should) We also produce a lot more than the other continents. If you want to talk about regions being theats, look at the countries with large populations that are trying to catch up to us without paying any attention to avoiding environmental mistakes. Like the "brown cloud" heading this way from Asia. Instead of killing anyone, how about taking our ("western" countries) expierence and technolgy and give these countries the resources to avoid the problems in the first place. That's eaiser said then done, as these places probably can't afford the technology to have cleaner industries. The probelms are a lot more complex than "the Americans did it!", finger pointing. But keep trotting out your bogus statistics if it makes you feel better. (since apparantly it is politically correct these days to blame all socal ills in the world on the sucessful, espically if you are in the successful group. (it has that nice self-denegration ring to it))
Clients don't seem to care so much about certs. But employers (espically the HR people who sort the applicants) do. Most IT comapnies seem to hire using a simple formula, the department describes the job then HR makes up a bunch of buzzword requirements. So the pieces of paper really come in handy when trying to get a job, but expierence counts more when trying to get a client.
I guess I didn't, I don't think you got mine either.:) (at least I'm learning more about the kernel via this exchange)
What I'm saying is, to a degree, this is already being done at the filesystem level. For example, installs that can run on DOS filesystems, like Zipslack. The kernel isn't specially modified in order to do that (AFAIK), but the kernel component dealing with that specfic filesystem handles the limitations and abstracts the fs from the rest of the kernel.
Application code could handle it, though. It's just a lot of places to change and you would want to be consistent. I suppose there are larger UI issues to worry about, I was mainly wanting to counter the "silly newbies, Linux is for real hax0rs" chorus. Thanks for comming up with a real answer
Oh, and AFAIK: By default OSX uses HFS+ which is the same filesystem as OS9 and before. It also supports UFS(?), a filesystem from Apple's A/UX, which is a traditional unix fs.
OK, so the kernel level may not be the best way to fix it. But how about this, we already have support for filesystems that are case insensitive (fat32), so it can be implemented without doing heavy kernel reworking. So why not either modify an existing Linux filesystem for case insensitivty (insensitiveFS3), or bring in support for a competant filesystem that already is insensitive (HFS+).
Then have the option for distros that cater to novice users to use that as their primary FS. That way we don't have to change things for the old hands that like case sensitivty (or don't care either way), and those who want to can have a filesystem more like what they're used to in win/mac/whatever.
OSX makes a good case for how it can work with a few wrinkles to work out.
But the tech schools are still pimping thier IT programs with a bunch of misleading rosy statistics. They promise a good paying job in less than 2 years, no wonder they're churning a steady stream of soon to be dissappointed graduates onto the market.
And those people who would have went into IT anyway get screwed along with them.
At any rate, IT itself is not the cause of the.COM collapse, (badly) flawed and nonexistent business plans are. The manic VCs pumping money into the fire didn't help either.
Bah
The main issues that I was thinking of were hard coded paths to config files. But if the filesystem was truely case insensitive, it wouldn't matter. At any rate, I think it would be a worthwile effort that will probably never happen due to the 1337 purists.
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But we just can't discuss the recent hacking if thier site. (while we discuss just about any other type of intrusion)
Something's fishy on Slashdot.
Homer, his mouth open wide!
I bought a Palm VIIx off ebay earlier in the year. Specifically for use with palm.net. Now it's "obsolete", but it's replacement is just a shinier version of the same thing, maybe a little faster. Same ram, same screen.
There's absolutely no reason for me to consider handing them more money unless they come out with a color version that has wireless, which doesn't seem likely. The only innovation on the Palm platform is being done by handspring and sony, right now.
They have to compete with thier own tech being done better by others.
And the high end models are almost as expensive as the Pocket windows devices ($500+ for a handheld??, not for me).
The Newton seems like a good in-between device to carry instead of a laptop, but they'd have to compete with cheap Palms and existing used Newtons on the cheap end and the "XP in a handheld" units on the high end. Plus it would have to un-steved, which is slightly less likely than ressurecting Elvis.
He's talking about OS9 not OSX. OS9 doesn't have/need a command shell (other than that debug prompt).
My expierence may be obsolete... I seem to recall have to deal with fixed ram settings for each applicaion, but that was way back in 8.something and before days.
Who really has a choice? If you don't sign, you normally don't get the job. Ther may be a few oddball excpetions, but I've never heard of someone refusing to sign and still getting the job.
And I don't see anyone giving good argumants against these points. I don't see OS9 being as effcient with recourses as *nix, but that could be a option for websites that dont need big SMP servers but need security. On another note, I don't see how this is news while the hacking of RIAA gets zero mention. (IMHO they're both news, but there's somethin' fishy about the blackout on submissions concerning the now well known incident)
I have been corrected in some of my assertions. Apparantly the software is bundled specifically with the superdrives, so it's not as tricky a manuver as I first thought, just heavy handed.
If they only wanted users of thier drives to use it, they should have only distributed it with thier drives. They made it part of the iTools suite, giving it to everyone who buys X. To pull this now is getting close to a bait and switch, but since it was free (as in beer), the injury is minimal.
Although, since the iTools are a big selling point of X, one could aruge that they are a part of the OS package and are therefore paid for. Then it really looks like a bait and switch, except the terms were there all along, buried in the EULA.
It's not like these people are trying to pirate anything, they're just trying to use the software they leaglly paid for (not counting the leeches who just bummed the disc from thier buddies).
All Apple is accomplishing is throwing more of thier karma capitol into the fire. The group of people this effects is small enough to not hurt Apple too much, even if they get pissed off and go elsewhere. My guess is that this is a knee-jerk reaction to what they percieved as a threat to thier control of the platform. A lot of people feel that such control is an necessary part of making the Mac different from other systems.
Before you call this a troll, consider this: What you you say if MS were to pull the same thing? (they dont make drives or editing software, it's just an illustration)
Rambus sure managed to do it. Also MS with OpenGL parts. Patents are so vague, it's impossible to know what the possible applications of one could be.
And if you wanted it *really* secret all it would take is the right bribes in the right places.
PTO is just another revenue arm now anyway.
Which is why the DMCA makes trafficking (sp?) in Beta VCRs illegal.
Also old VHS models without the automatic gain bullshit.
Feh.
That policy is standard practice for many companies and most state/loacl/federal government departments. Efficiency is punished.
Thank you for confirming the European stereotype.
The only reason to keep them is fear of change. Throw out the patents and simply stop people from outright copying code, which copyright handles nicely (and without needing any DMCA crapulence). When patent and copyright merged into "IP", everything started going downhill.
It's fairly rare for someone to actually have the means to fight back against the patent/copyright cudgel. The massive cost of defending oneself in court means most people now cannot afford to do so.
Right now, at least here in the US, we have a "guilty until proven innocent" civil legal system, as nobody can afford to fight back against the horde of lawyers.
Also the patent wasn't actually overturned, the judges just refused to enforce it (same net result, but that wouldn't have happened if it were a small company).
We really should be cheering these Prodigy guys for fighting back and not settleing.
Any more good news I can ruin??
Few people seem to remember it now, but Laserdisc was quite popular with videophiles (a similar species to audiophiles). It didn't catch on with joe consumer, because it's only benefit was higher quality and it had the inconviences of higher price and no recording.
The masses don't really care enough about high quality to pay more or be inconvienced for it. For most people CDs and mp3s are "good enough".
Myself, while I can tell the difference and could probably afford a SACD setup, It's hard for me to justify the cost to myself. maybe when there are more titles available in stores that interest me.
I suppose he meant microwave transmitters, which use the same kind of energy as an microwave oven (just more of it).
And just where did you get those numbers? From some college professor or a leaflet? We consume a lot. (more than we should) We also produce a lot more than the other continents.
If you want to talk about regions being theats, look at the countries with large populations that are trying to catch up to us without paying any attention to avoiding environmental mistakes.
Like the "brown cloud" heading this way from Asia. Instead of killing anyone, how about taking our ("western" countries) expierence and technolgy and give these countries the resources to avoid the problems in the first place.
That's eaiser said then done, as these places probably can't afford the technology to have cleaner industries.
The probelms are a lot more complex than "the Americans did it!", finger pointing. But keep trotting out your bogus statistics if it makes you feel better.
(since apparantly it is politically correct these days to blame all socal ills in the world on the sucessful, espically if you are in the successful group. (it has that nice self-denegration ring to it))
Soylent Green, made from the best stuff on Earth, people!
Clients don't seem to care so much about certs. But employers (espically the HR people who sort the applicants) do.
Most IT comapnies seem to hire using a simple formula, the department describes the job then HR makes up a bunch of buzzword requirements.
So the pieces of paper really come in handy when trying to get a job, but expierence counts more when trying to get a client.
The cited cartoon contradicts what you wrote after it.
Some grammar nazi you turned out to be...
I guess I didn't, I don't think you got mine either. :) (at least I'm learning more about the kernel via this exchange)
What I'm saying is, to a degree, this is already being done at the filesystem level. For example, installs that can run on DOS filesystems, like Zipslack. The kernel isn't specially modified in order to do that (AFAIK), but the kernel component dealing with that specfic filesystem handles the limitations and abstracts the fs from the rest of the kernel.
Application code could handle it, though. It's just a lot of places to change and you would want to be consistent. I suppose there are larger UI issues to worry about, I was mainly wanting to counter the "silly newbies, Linux is for real hax0rs" chorus. Thanks for comming up with a real answer
Oh, and AFAIK: By default OSX uses HFS+ which is the same filesystem as OS9 and before. It also supports UFS(?), a filesystem from Apple's A/UX, which is a traditional unix fs.
OK, so the kernel level may not be the best way to fix it. But how about this, we already have support for filesystems that are case insensitive (fat32), so it can be implemented without doing heavy kernel reworking. So why not either modify an existing Linux filesystem for case insensitivty (insensitiveFS3), or bring in support for a competant filesystem that already is insensitive (HFS+).
Then have the option for distros that cater to novice users to use that as their primary FS. That way we don't have to change things for the old hands that like case sensitivty (or don't care either way), and those who want to can have a filesystem more like what they're used to in win/mac/whatever.OSX makes a good case for how it can work with a few wrinkles to work out.
And those people who would have went into IT anyway get screwed along with them.
At any rate, IT itself is not the cause of theThe main issues that I was thinking of were hard coded paths to config files. But if the filesystem was truely case insensitive, it wouldn't matter. At any rate, I think it would be a worthwile effort that will probably never happen due to the 1337 purists.